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if you believe the left. nobody seems to know. that it will help us break the face of the
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argument that they're being overly dramatic. and it's time for show and talents night's program and last time we told you about the democrats and republicans coming together to pass a three free trade agreements that these types of agreements help or hurt u.s. economy could produce a patrice in a sense you could find out what you have said. this friday president obama is expected to sign trade agreements with south korea panama and colombia making it the group of agreements the biggest trade deal since nafta ninety four now the u.s. department of commerce website says that free trade agreements have approved trial be one of the best ways to open foreign markets to us exporters seventeen years
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later now it is as controversial as ever so we want to know what you thought do you believe that these trade agreements will help or hurt the u.s. economy a mile said and he asked for the u.s. is a lose lose situation the u.s. is importing stuff it doesn't need and looking to export other stuff to other countries that can make it even cheaper a large grain of salt said great now we get to compete with a country where people are killed for trying to organize unions and corporations will get to hide their money and not pay us taxes all this while moving more jobs out of the country can told us it will hurt the economy there is no free trade in america that helps people. only the rich tell me idle at is as you think free trade agreements help the us economy then you should move to china and work in a sweat shop because that's the only way we will be able to say that our products are american made so the majority who rode in it did not think more free trade agreements were going to help the us economy in fact back in november of two
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thousand and ten a pew research study found that shows thirty five percent of americans who said free trade agreements were good for the u.s. well forty four percent said they were back basically the majority of americans surveyed felt the same way as those who wrote in a free trade agreements are not going to help the u.s. economy so then the question is if these new trade agreements are being signed tomorrow whose opinion are the politicians in washington really listening to. now as always thank you for your responses and here's our next question for you earlier in the show we spoke with gene healy of the hedo institute about the u.s. intervention in uganda that was announced last week so i want to know what you think should be less be sending troops you caught it on was on facebook twitter and you tube and you know his response just let me in there. and now ever since occupy wall street started a little over a month ago we've seen spinoff movements pop up all over the world just yesterday we told you about occupy the board room which was launched over the weekend and
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today the same magazine that helped start project my movement proposed a tax idea really classic tale of robin hood took from the rich gave the poor well let's imagine for a second that the banks represent the rich and the situation hard to imagine i know and the tax plan is called the robin hood tax plan so the proposal is a one percent by national tax on all financial transactions and currency traits adbusters is calling for a global march on october twenty ninth the day before the g. twenty leaders summit in france to demand that leaders impose a tax immediately so an open statement from the vancouver based magazine it said let's send them a clear message we want you to slow down some of that one point three trillion dollars in easy. money that's sloshing around the global casino each day and now cash to fund every social program and environmental initiative in the world and anyone out there is wondering if they've heard this concept of poor well they probably have economists who proposed similar financial taxes in the past in the new york times last year i can almost professor nancy fold predicted a problem policy like this would raise one hundred seventy five billion dollars in
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revenue a year and as the website out of the u.k. called robin hood tax start or cusses how this concept could be beneficial to everyone i even had a few famous faces take part in a series of back idea. which. the world. was. all right so i know a lot of you probably thinking if this concept has been around for a while then what difference would it make to stage a global march for it now well i was a street movement finally has the attention of the world so i argue that now seems like a better time than ever to start making concrete demands but somehow that feeling that attacks that would fundamentally alter our financial system that's one that's
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going to make a lot of people in this country like republicans scream bloody murder. now much of today's news cycles focused on the news that moammar gadhafi has been killed let's not forget that there is a movement going on right here in the u.s. only you could say it was in some respects inspired by the arab spring the revolutions in egypt and tunisia that also inspired uprisings in yemen bahrain syria and libya strange all that works isn't it but the one of the things that we've seen most of the arab spring has unfolded are clearing examples of hypocrisy or intervene where to stand idly by and of course i just know that chalk is because we know that politicians do hypocrisy best take for example president obama's attempts to invoke occupy wall street on his job stewart have a senior advisers going cable television tell the people the president is on their side all of that without getting too close or endorsing the movement too much and all of that while taking in huge swaths of cash from wall street just case go the new york times reported that mitt romney had taken in more wall street money than president obama had so far in campaign donations today the washington post refuted
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that report said that in fact president obama had more wall street cash because he also has the d.n.c. funds but at the end of the day does it really matter who has more as long as everybody keeps playing the same game joining me here in los angeles to discuss it is and it's very and co-host of the young turks and i want to thank you for joining us tonight and i mean what do you see here the one hand sure it matters at the end of the day how much money who gets from who but isn't this part of the problem that no matter what party you're a part of a democrat or republican if you're obama or mitt romney you're still going to take all the wall street cash you can get and never say no to it. absolutely it's the number one problem in our political system and i would argue it's the number one reason why we're seeing so many people protesting not only in this country but we're seeing people protesting and supporting the occupy movement in other countries it's because politicians are easily bought and it doesn't matter how much obama was able to raise from wall street versus how much mitt romney was able to
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raise from wall street these politicians are bought easily and you know a couple thousand dollars goes a very very long way with them so one of the things that we need to find a way to change is big big corporations in politics we need to take the corporate money out of politics well actually i know that's something that you know that we do the young turks with has been very vocal about and i know that last night he went down to occupy wall street at the park and made an announcement during the general assembly so if you tell us a little bit more about. sure. has created something known as wolfpack and what he wants to do is he wants to create a constitutional amendment that would take corporate money out of politics because it's like an infection and what you see right now is that our politicians are not representing the people who elected them they're representing corporations and big business so what he wants to do is limit the amount of money that corporations can donate and he also first of all wants to overturn citizens united because he does
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not believe that corporations are people who are protected under the first amendment and also when it comes to contributions we would like to see the contributions limited to one hundred dollars now that might seem like a tiny amount of money but it makes more sense to have publicly funded campaigns as opposed to having these private corporations fund these campaigns with hundreds of thousands of dollars because in the end as i mentioned you see people who are not being represented in the government and you see representatives passing deregulation and passing policy that is favorable to the big banks and to the corporations and it has completely infected our government and destroyed our democracy i'm just curious what was the response from those occupy wall street you guys got me e-mails about that because one of the things is cannot have demands and so here's a very specific plan of action. you're absolutely right about that it's a very clear and concise goal and that's what i love about it and i think that's what most people love about it because it's something that you can look at it has
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very specific details and you can actually take part in it and make real change in the country so so far the response has been amazing you know we have this saying at young turks the army is too strong you know anyone who is supportive of our cause and of our show is part of the army and you know people in our army are just so riled up about this and it's a really inspirational moment for me personally to see all of these people become politically active you know donate their funds to this wolfpack you know whatever they can donate it doesn't have to be a significant amount of money and you know volunteer i think that's another important aspect of this we have thousands of people who have already made a pledge to volunteer to this movement and grasping people to occupy state houses until you know this constitutional amendment gets considered and i think that it's it's not going to be a easy thing to do but i do believe that the army is too strong i do believe that there are people out there who are fed up with corporations taking over our
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political system and i think that in the end we will come out victorious we know there's definitely something going on right now in the country and people are waking up and we see that by the fact about a movement has read all across the country but you know one of the main things is that they think that our political system is broken that both parties are you know to blame here and so it's really interesting to keep hearing this back and forth rhetoric from the obama administration and a lot to say that it supports the protesters and understands the taking of the wall street cash he has a bunch of guys from wall street working in his administration and i'm just wondering do you think i actually fools anybody or do you think that those you know there are some people out there there was a poll for example yesterday that said fifty nine percent of americans agree with occupy wall street maybe it do you think that's going to affect the people that are sitting on their couches that you know haven't actually gone out to join a protest but just kind of like the sound the twenty seventh. i think so i think that these protests are slowly but surely starting to inspire more and more people
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like keep in mind that when occupy wall street first began a little over a month ago people didn't take it too seriously you know there were maybe a couple thousand people at occupy wall street the media was making fun of it or not covering it all covering it at all you see a lot of people be little ing it but now all of a sudden you know you see thousands of people and more than four hundred cities in the united states having an occupying movement happening right now and also it's inspired people in other countries with which i think speaks volumes and you know a lot of people have attempted to co-opt this movement which is so maddening even members of the republican party have tried to co-opt this movement you have mitt romney and you also have. you know newt gingrich at first you know they're very showing wang wang about this movement they're very i guess they brush it off their shoulder and they think it's not a big deal in fact mitt romney called it dangerous and now all of a sudden they're saying oh well i understand their frustrations absolutely i'm on
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their side please so i think that it's starting to become highly influential and that's good news in my opinion but i think that you know the fact that we've obviously seen a lot of mockery go towards of my wall street movement but there's also been a lot of vilification i feel like you know now there's a scandal because the hash tag symbol that they put in tape on their arms somebody compared it looked like a swastika because now they're all communists because the socialist party in the united states that they support the movement and what do you think of those types of attacks i mean does that show you that the right wing is is actually scared here or is i guess just typical i mean i don't think it's fair to a great entire movement with a couple of people because we heard the same thing when it was the with the tea party. you know first of all i think that it's asinine the right wing would make such accusations of course they're doing whatever they can to smear occupy wall street and it makes me sick to my stomach but it's also unsurprising another thing that's very surprising about this is the fact that it is being covered by the
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mainstream media as if these are legitimate claims at the same time the tea party just recently urged small business owners to not hire any employees under any circumstances so they can hurt obama's campaign and you know the elections in two thousand and twelve so they can show that barack obama is destructive to the economy why isn't that a big news story they're asking small businesses to make sure that they keep people unemployed you know that i think is something that is rightfully should be rightfully vilified but the mainstream media doesn't cover it no one talks about it in fact we're talking about a hash tag looking like a swastika how ridiculous is that i mean it's maddening it's maddening and you know you have andrew breitbart you have the right wing you have all of these people who are against occupy wall street trying to smear them in one way or another people accusing them of being there for free food it's stupid it's asinine and you know let's be honest with you i think that if anything it's probably encouraging people
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and motivating people more and occupy wall street because the more you try to put them down the stronger they're going to be and i love that. thank you so much for joining us tonight and you're right there in terms of that tea party nation story they want to make everybody suffer so a single party in a way in which you know tells you how much they're thinking about the greater good thanks so much. i don't go anywhere so a lot more to come tonight working for you tonight school time winner and our happy hour movie fans found their own occupy movement and south park takes a jab at the complex because. thanks. to the police the repetition of. what a protest nobody seems to know. but never appropriate
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to face but part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then something else here sees some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.
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mr. all right it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to national public radio for hurting the career of her radio host all in an attempt to quell
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a controversy that there was actually no controversy at all just fake outrage being peddled by roll call the daily caller and of course fox news because of what a manufactured scandal be without fox news and i want to get back to the story the roll call the daily caller and fox already with a story that a host of an n.p.r. talk show was acting as the spokes person for the october two thousand and eleven protests at the anti-war movement that's being held here in washington d.c. which we've covered on this show and simeoni was in fact participating in these protests and actually here's a clip of her expressing what exactly she was protesting for not war not slaughter not mayhem not destruction but life peace justice that's what we want that's what we're going to demand. now the implication of the stories put out there was that the host leases in the open he was participating in p.r. work all being an employee at n.p.r. something strictly forbidden for n.p.r. employees there's one little problem here lisa said the only isn't n.p.r.
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employees she's the host of two shows which have nothing to do with politics one called sound current which is aired on an n.p.r. affiliate and world of opera which is produced by an n.p.r. affiliate so you would think that god would simply brush the bow controversy away she doesn't work for them she doesn't get paid by them and she hosts a show which deals strictly with culture with opera not with politics but what about raw because n.p.r. did exactly the opposite and fired off an e-mail to staffers saying if they of course take this issue very seriously we really they're taking a freelancer staffer at an n.p.r. affiliate who does not work for them is not paid by them participating in a protest very seriously why i think somebody actually put it best when she said what is n.p.r. afraid i'll do insert a seditious comment into a synopsis of madame butterfly now apparently they are and so is one of the stations who simeoni works for she was fired last night from her role on the show sound print thankfully deputy a b the affiliate who produces that show world opera did not fire simeoni and they stated that while they respect n.p.r.'s mission to
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serve as a leading news provider they exist on the other hand to serve as a leading provider of arts and cultural programming so i commend them for not buckling under the pressure of n.p.r. and their absurd concern for an employee of one of their affiliates participating in anti-war protests i do still have a tools hundred fill out so tonight's tools are award it's going straight to n.p.r. for being so paranoid about a fake right wing controversy and they're actually willing to get a woman fired over it. and you guys time for happy hour and join. me this evening as our chief producer jenny churchill and alex sites all assistant editor for think progress to art thanks for joining me guys to. meet oh campaigns. rick perry mitt romney apparently hate each other as we all figured out this last debate so now they're
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having a lot of attack ads that go back and forth and so first let's take a look at this anti parody that the mitt romney campaign put out and then basically just painted him as a total moron and they actually pulled it but we have a little clip let's listen to it. i think i've ever heard an illegal in my life. and illegal immigrants who were in there. i'm running for office of the secretary legal credibility you should lose all your. other reasons not to like me. ok just kidding we're going to. carry one next that was the anti romney ad that he put out talking about what misleading so lying the s.o.b.'s mitt romney is kind of how often misleading i like the bad to define it it's like that so american like misleading and a dictionary definition of conflict. i mean i didn't say anything that wasn't true
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in that ad and the fact they had to fight it kind of confirms mitt romney's point that rick perry's and his campaign might not be the smartest sleepy kind of ok let's look at the perry campaign ad and i'm sure the clip. so ok so. let's understand with. the ball rolling with you with your own game you seem to be educated for baseball to lower the last debate i mean. you just leave it in the fall but if you show up and smile to live. with the other republicans have a hard time. with him enough look as stupid as they could but it is like the before he was before i mean you have so much good material to not use that in there i completely disagree i thought every bit of that ad was wonderful and it was the first time i'd really excited about the possibility of him i had
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a little thought i did it for i think it's wonderful because now this is first time i thought as an l it's going to be amazing and you know if he wins the nomination we're in for months worth of awesome entertainment you know i think it's kind of a mistake on his part to elevate rick perry people already think he's done the washington post did a poll and the third most associated word of with rick perry was here so americans are knows one guy now they pulled the ads and now of course it's only getting more attention which kind of interesting a bit actually back now and decided to get rid of it and interesting like they had no it's pretty certain they did roll with the never go big or go home that's a lesson now let's take a look at something the ad levine who is in maroon five decided to tweet and he tweeted to fox news he says dear fox news don't play our music on your evil f. ing it channel ever again thank you which i just really like but i actually tweeted
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out to them and cox news had a little response or little discussion about that too. it's coming. i know what that is. it's crap. literally yes if you could write using search under the category called crack that comes up i guess that makes sense i do know chris morton once you know being in perry came from you can call the police. thing ok who wins here. i mean i just i love the business model we're going to use your song because it's good enough for us to play our crappy television show. we're going to talk about how crappy. i think they're both i mean i'm not a fan of either and i really have to do some. but i got the wires but
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i kind of like that called you know your evil epic channel yeah and i would like to point out that if you change a few words that tweet could have been from you like dear g.o.p. candidates please stop using my clips and you're having crappy commercial if you're . ok i think you should a song about fox news would definitely win. and i bet you could do a better job. because it might make a little bit more sense i think you could actually story watch it together. look like you know i don't story here south park apparently did a little i love south park. by the way. were able to insert. take a look. at me living here if you can't you are you know. what
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else. is in charge of eavesdropper. it says here its name is. it's not bradley manning it's just a little brat you guys and you know no i didn't actually this was news to me and i get all of my news from south park so i do like what they're like up with the times but you know a lot of the jewel in the song translated so you should be pretty happy about the rap portrayal of him it's one of the best trails is in the mainstream media i know i did i find it interesting that they haven't touched on it until after julian from kind of fallen from. kind of who got what took him so long are you going to do this last story really quickly. basically some people out there. who are put out of pink or occupy more doors because one ring should not be allowed to rule them and this is just shows you how far you cry wall street is really is really going to now you have like the fans and the gamers out there i think i'm worried or i'm totally down
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i am too i'm a little concerned about how they're going to execute because if you know anything about lord of the rings you know that one does not simply walk into more dark so i don't know how they're going to occupy i'm a little concerned excellent point i mean if they can do it in wall street but you know the occupy protesters they called hippies they've been called trust fund there's turns out maybe they're just nerds. where i don't think about maybe they're just maybe they're just geeks ok and then really quick breaking news update for you it turns out that the herpes monkey is still on the loose i guess things are going to deny that's represented so thanks for tuning in i make sure you can back tomorrow lawrence wilkerson former chief of staff to colin powell asleep on the show and meantime don't forget to become a fan of the lower show on facebook and follow us on twitter if you missed any of the night's show or any other night. promise slash the longer show interviews as well as the show in its entirety and coming up next it's.
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