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a full american withdrawal from iraq by the years and now will the republicans finally be willing to give him some credit for his foreign policy achievements but friday big picture on the panel will take on that issue and much more after the break. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who made decisions could you break through. who can you trust no one who sees and who will have noble mission would see we're only fighting state controlled capitalism and score sessions we nobody dares to redo our t. question more.
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are you ready to rumble it's friday night so that means it's time for the weekly news rummel here on the big picture on our panel tonight brian darling contributor to human events red state dot com big government dot com and director of government studies at the heritage foundation with the benjamin coder co-founder of code pink and global exchange and jeannie weinstein senior editor at the daily caller let's get started last night the republicans proved the big brother protect millionaires and billionaires then have four hundred thousand teachers cops and firefighters on the job fifty votes it's actually got fifty votes which is a majority in the senate if you if you believe. vice president former vice
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president cheney the vice president's member of the senate there's actually a hundred one members you could have passed fifty votes could have passed but the republicans said no we're going to obstruct this as a consequence of this president said for the second time in two weeks every single republican in the united states senate as chosen to obstruct a bill that would create jobs and get our economy going every american deserves an explanation as to why republicans refuse to do what's necessary to create jobs i think the explanation is really clear they're trying to crash the economy well that's that's what you guys are totally up to one it's not clear what it clearly would have passed tester in prior said they voted to have it go to the floor to vote but to break the filibuster but they weren't sure they were going to vote for it number two is that if you think you can you can pay for these things every time by just hacking the millionaires it's just an impossibility this this was one half of one percent and it wasn't even a tax on the first million dollars it was
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a tax on the first dollar after you make a i don't i don't see how they can the dia i don't know i can't justify it tom i think they're crazy out or not i don't understand why they think that that will get them votes among the electorate i mean you look at the polls people want to tax millionaires they also tend to like peaches and when you're a mother and you see fifty students in the classroom you might think it is good to have some work teachers in the right as your as your party that it's a political suicide you know my party is doing a good thing for america because the first stimulus didn't work this stimulus isn't it only three million jobs since obama was inaugurated the economy's lost two million jobs unemployment at a loss of lives millions if we had had the first time it's just conjecture the consensus of a lot of those or citizens or good liberal economists one of them is the ability for that but it's important to know that you're saying oh the republicans blocked it in the senate the fact of the matter is is that it wasn't going to pass the house anyway so even if it. the senate was going to pass the house and there's
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a constitutional process of the republicans in the house are going to block something then the democrats in the senate should just say yeah let's go let's go how do you we know was and this is all a political exercise i mean the president all symbolic to show you guys just love millionaires and you want to go with this idea that this syntax millionaires because everybody wants to be a millionaire this is the billionaires job creators we don't like taxes i mean there's a lot of this is this is the this is ridiculous and if you're wondering because education start with the teachers' unions steve jobs where we're learning now in the new book about to be released he complained about you know this is the islington gods didn't like your status of teacher unions if you're giving a temporary aid to teachers for one year what's going to happen next year so this is really to keep these teachers that you suggest you have to make a ten year bill worth ten times that if you put four hundred thousand people to work and you put enough money in their pocket that they've got a decent pay for a year let's say it's a year that's going to stimulate the economy those people are going to buy things
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from the local stores are going to buy things from local small business people who are going to be site here's this money right here like the billionaire millionaires who just going to keep their money in these hands and here's the future and everybody in cape actually in august in our opposite side of this let me let me finish with this the tea party nation activist author and business owner melissa brookstone wrote tea party members begging them fellow business people small business people around the country begging them not to hire anyone until president obama is out of office to hurt him in the two thousand and twelve election according to moody's the republican counterproposal this is moody's the rating service will quote likely push our economy back into recession i mean it is so obvious what the republicans are trying to do. is very good and we're just we're just we're just as a matter of fact last time we try to do something like this soon after i started the daily caller that the congress were going to try to pass a bill to add to hire teachers we called the daily caller a bunch of us. districts or we look into it and
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a lot of them are going to hire like psychologists because they didn't really need teachers and things like that i think i or thing was it's a joint is a series or incident as a series is not like the same teacher is going to help and in some cases they did they would they were going to pass at a time where they could even hire teachers and subject of a parent should get a college just in fandom i would encourage foundations. we know how to read aloud you know. there is already i'd always be. the iraq war big news in the iraq war here's what president obama had to say this afternoon. here. today i can report that as promised the rest of our troops in iraq will come home by the end of the year after nearly nine years. america's war in iraq will be over the next two months our troops in iraq tens of thousands of them will pack up their gear and board convoys for the journey home the last american soldier will cross the border out of iraq with their help itself proud of their success and knowing
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that the american people stand united in our support for our troops. that is how america's military efforts in iraq will end so this is democrats and wars i remember when jerry ford when the vietnam war ended it was a little messier were the last to leave out the top of the u.s. embassy in saigon so so he's ending the iraq war he's on a path to ending the afghanistan we'll see how that works only he killed the little bit let me go to some of the question here are you guys really here i understand he killed bin laden. no terrorist attacks on u.s. soil we participated in toppling gadhafi them to feel about them and you know any way to egypt he said tear down these dictators and began a wave of the arab spring at what point are republicans going to acknowledge that president obama might have had some foreign policy victories or at the very least his foreign policy over the last three years was nowhere near as screwed up as
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george bush's was bringing the goal is we could at least agree on that yes but can we focus on iraq or this focus on this one subject i think three points have to be made one this is not a good thing i wish we actually were establishing agreements where we could have bases there to to for iranian interference in iraq we need empire over the number number number two that this orderly exit that you're suggesting that a president obama's presiding over would have been possible without president bush's surge which which which created the atmosphere for it and number three tom this is where i think is it possible the president bush and you know i mean you know i know he was represented but this is not this is this is the most important point and i think it sends a stark contrast to what a lot of people media benjamin's of the world and other people said that this was an occupation that we're imposing a puppet government youngest country we know it's this is the most benevolent occupation the history of the world where they ask us to leave and we leave can you imagine any other occupation in history where the we're we're there we suppose we stop a puppet government they ask you to leave and you leave that's what we're doing did i hearing you say this is a benevolent occupation this is not a patient that took
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a country gets run by the kadisha but a middle class country that has education for everybody that had health care where people live once. middle class lifestyle i was there under saddam you did it he were there so we can fight you know i was really good and you were saying if you go if you follow the belief that went there because their education system is better than everywhere and now it is a shambles and we have millions of iraqis who have had to flee their country responsible for the death of millions of iraqis were responsible for the destruction of an entire country where was i and so i disagree with obama when he says people are going out of there with their heads held high aware of our success this is been no success this is been just a tragedy but we will play a good place i want to disagree with you time is that i think the bush administration the obama administration actually wanted to keep more troops in iraq and it was only because of the status of forces agreement imposed on the bush administration by the iraqis that he was for i agree with you or he we we we would
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have stayed if they would have given us some unity that's the bottom we're not going to know if this is true success and. forty years if you are sort of reset your time if there's some political benefit to working with democrats you know this is going to not going to know we're not going to know if this is a success until six months a year down the line to see if iraq goes into a revolution and all of a sudden we have warring factions we have the rainy unsponsored faction fighting with al-qaeda fighting with others if you look at obama's foreign policy it has not been a success look at egypt egypt is not a democracy and what's going to happen in libya. is a. look at a new kid what's going to happen in libya over the next year we don't go there we don't know we're going to have any of these countries and obama fell down flat in a speech from the arab spring almost started. let's not hear about success interact because it just it will never be which is it's my question still stands and it's an
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important question to suppose that again some of the answers we actually go on we have a lot of mixed up in and we've got republican darling marco rubio has. little trouble telling the truth apparently he's been building he's built his entire political career on the fact that his family fled communist tyranny when in fact they got out of the country two and a half years before you know back when when castro was still living in mexico and trying to get on the on the yankees baseball team so what's the deal as he as he totally blown it as a candidate first of all these arms about how it was his parents went back and tried to go back to cuba and eventually wanted to go back to cuba and they were refugees i mean they left before castro took over but he couldn't go back i mean he admits that he made a mistake and he stated the wrong business parents left. the city nine it's like watershed year you know it's like saying were you there when the berlin wall fell there when the soviet union visit he was here where you know it's like a year that everybody knows right and you have to be cuban to know the difference
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between fifty six fifty seven fifty and fifty nine he got it i mean he's a big one in fairness i would brag about this is a second look at a look at up what i often thought he was a his family fled castors cuba because that's what you do you know joe nocera let me in fairness i went back and looked at that pretty clearly he had said different dates throughout fifty seven fifty eight did not he wasn't sure exactly how and when to ask and want to ask by the miami herald last month was he did they flee before or after the revolution he admitted he said it was before now there were times he probably could have corrected the record we never said he what he was running for office he never once said never once said that his family came after the revolution to get it ok so we. are going to think you're over fifty six fifty five again crazy data and it's kind of like this it has the republican presidential candidates go is this romney's to lose i'm curious just being a moving along in the republican discussion here is this romney's to lose as herman cain running for president or is he just trying to sell books like gingrich and
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sarah palin are doing and in fact the cain spokesman said clearly there's a synergy between the book tour and the campaign. which republican. is the real republican and look at the state is this romney's well i think if you look to president obama his quest for the presidency and as far as we were out from iowa republican right and i'm saying democrats nobody would have given president obama a chance to win that election to beat hillary clinton in that primary republicans are kind in the same situation where they haven't settled on a candidate mitt romney seems to be stuck at twenty seven twenty eight percent he can't get above that number you've got herman cain going up in launching himself to be one of the front runners were perry was a front runner and fell back i think you're still seeing republicans looking at the field trying to understand which one may the light the most and may have been settled on a candidate yes there are republicans in the field they're all lousy i think i feel sorry for the republicans this time it's like you know obama is doing so badly and
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he can't find what you're trying to add is they are obama's a lot worse i mean his poll numbers are so abysmal whoever wins the republican primaries are going to win the really the i don't you have way they will feel good when you want to be as bad as it is charlie manson could be the nominee and he would have a very good i just don't because there's a you know in advance of my own question i don't think there's a real republican in the race i think the last republican. to go behind was a real democrat a baby richard nixon was you think obama's a real democrat anyhow yes i do eric cantor for better and for worse eric cantor was supposed to give a speech today on income inequality and he thought that it was going to be a controlled audience you plan all along had been saying no anybody is welcome and the occupy wall street folks showed up or said that they were going to on a dime eric cantor turns and runs so isn't this what a real grassroots movement looks like and i thought republican party really frightened because there's no koch brothers behind it we have just one minute are you kidding i mean these are one hundred kind of like a lease here not by d.c.
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kind of disoriented people in the streets don't really know what orients yet they don't even even sure what they're supporting i've been down there tonight they're not like pretty clear this is no. a grassroots movement with defra caving on different areas if you read the new york post the residents of new york are complaining about that rupert murdoch's publication probably dog doo that somebody was there it's it was it was their reporting on a con council meeting where people were complaining about it in their local area c'mon you know this is like a grassroots movement like we've never seen since the sixty's with people so excited that they can take over a town where start talking about college savings people get their lives with this point one hundred people that it is down to one hundred people and. many people you can't even get to hear anyone can leap in the place hence i'm going to get in boston i mean people in chicago are going to hear that it's intense actually it's two occupation it's you know when he has a war and there's a limited time variable and there's probably about two hundred maybe if you in the
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evening this is transitory try nine hundred cities around the world yeah nine i mean this is this is an awakening but it's the extremists that are anti capitalism it's. not a vast majority minority less of you but i do think your movie is families that have. their law breakers i mean they love to go to the police and the fights and the love to the police and then they complain about a good way to do the opposite and i'm sure some people who are listening is just more on the basis of lies either way i think your larger going to torture people if you like i guess we've got to get to a quick question here republican new jersey senator can a senate candidate fill niche should've kept his one particular this particular one piece of advice to himself how women can keep their men from chino wednesday and it's a doozy of a tweet saying women you increase your odds of keeping your man by being faithful a lady in the living room and a whore in the bedroom and has since apologized for offending anyone particularly women in the street that got me thinking we're going to advice should republicans
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be giving to fellow republicans why is a if you notice your husband walking around a lot with his shirt on check out his cell phone. be if husband your. buying your clothes make sure he hasn't tried them on first or see if your husband if you knows your husband has a wide stance and like so tapping don't let him use public restrooms or ideas of your own. anyone or show that it's a bipartisan problem i mean it's not just republicans and if i was one of the wives that shut down the facebook and twitter account because it seems very dangerous for politicians of both parties i give the advice to the husband that if you want to keep your lovely wife you better not cheat on your prediction it will not be headlining the republican national convention. mine is neil horsley was a major republican who once ran for governor of georgia won with biggest leaders in the anti-abortion movement he's the guy who ran the website that had the abortion doctor pictures that be axed out every time one got murdered and a while back he had this conversation with my colleague alan colmes.
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will you get me. i'm not so sure that. your journey. i don't know. where you grew up sexually. you know. that you know. all. so my advice to republican wives is if your husband spending a lot of time hanging around the barn would go for mr. so that's it for carol. jamie thank you thank you think coming out what's the real reason why president obama's jobs bill failed in the sun alas i don't tell you and i do. what
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drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions completely breakthrough that sort of made who can you trust no one who are easy and deal with the global nation it's a party state controlled capitalism it's called south shields when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.
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before senate majority leader harry reid brought legislation. on the floor last night with four hundred thousand teachers firefighters and cops back to work the american people weighed in on what they wanted to happen plan was simple give thirty five billion dollars in federal aid to states across the nation to hire mostly teachers as well as cops and firefighters and pay for it by levene a one half of one percent tax on millionaires that's it really simple and remember that a want to half of one percent of that tax would be an income over a million bucks as in people who make nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine dollars a year they wouldn't if i paid it all if a loose a make one million one hundred thousand dollars as joe biden pointed out they pay an extra five hundred bucks a year that's it so c.n.n.
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asked people what they thought of the plan and a whopping seventy five percent said they approved seventy five percent wanted congress to pass the bill and when it comes to that new surtax on the millionaires alone the american people support that too according to a poor of this week by the national journal sixty eight percent of americans support a surtax on millionaires only twenty seven percent oppose it so let's recap this on thursday night the senate considered legislation that seventy five percent of americans supported legislation that's most controversial provision a one half of one percent surtax on millionaires also had the support of sixty eight percent of americans seems like a no brainer right well the legislation failed. and not because it didn't get enough votes to pass because it did get enough votes to pass a majority of senators all democrats voted for but it failed because it didn't get
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enough votes to overcome a unified republican filibuster that's right every single senate republican filibuster the bill a bill that had the support of seventy five percent of americans but not the support of a single republican senator republican senators turned their backs on four hundred thousand teachers firefighters and cops and most importantly they turned their backs on what the american people wanted in order to protect millionaires and billionaires from a one half of one percent tax increase on their money after they've already made a million dollars so how does this happen how can this happen in a democracy and a government of representatives not leaders that representatives who are supposed to represent their constituents the answer is an equal influence there's an equal influence in our government
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a topic i explore in my book on equal protection it doesn't matter that seventy five percent of americans support a particular piece of legislation because that seventy five percent doesn't have powerful high priced lobbyists working for them but the one percent people who don't feel like paying an extra few hundred bucks a year in taxes every year so the teachers can go back to work they have lobbyists and all it takes out is a few strategic campaign contributions and you too if you're rich enough can own your very own lawmakers in particular you can own your very own republican lunch alone there are some democrats that are for sale too and you can make them vote any way you want them. and it's not just about jobs or taxing millionaires and billionaires unequal influence is pervasive everywhere according to an n.b.c. wall street journal poll earlier this year seventy four percent of americans want to cut off billions in taxpayer subsidies to big oil corporations but because big
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oil has lobbyists and does more influence congress has done nothing to end their corporate welfare huge majorities of americans oppose the bailout of wall street back in september of two thousand and eight so much so that capitol hill switchboards were were brought down they were flooded with millions of people calling members of congress as going to vote no constituent phone calls are no match for check writing wall street lobbyists when it comes to influence so congress passed that stomach churning bailout anyway poll after poll after poll shows most americans wanting fundamental reform of our health care system even though fifty three million americans are uninsured premiums are skyrocketing and our health outcomes are embarrassing compared to other developed nations but universal health care system is completely off the table in congress it's a nonstarter. because millionaires in the health insurance industry want more more
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more money it doesn't matter what the people are it doesn't matter what idea makes the most sense or what policy will benefit the most people it's all about who has the most influence and since the supreme court ruled that corporations are people and that money is speech and corporations now have the most influence and they will until this nation has a revolution not a violent revolution but a revolution a sense that a new generation of leaders rise up to fundamentally change this unfair economic and political system a revolution that ends corporate personhood and gets money out of politics. back in two thousand and one is george w. bush was pushing his outrageous tax cuts for the rich through congress senator bernie sanders saw this trend of unequal influence and he wrote an article on his website saying at a time when more and more americans are giving up on the political process and when the wealthy and multinational corporations and unprecedented rolph in power it is
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imperative that we let launch a grassroots revolution to enable ordinary americans to regain control of their country exactly ten years and one month to the day when senator sanders wrote that article on september seventeenth of this year it will be again camping out near wall street to protest an equal corporate influence in our political system the occupy wall street movement was born and like with all movements standing on the shoulders of the giants who preceded it. that's the big picture person night for more information on the stories we covered visit our websites and thom hartmann dot com free speech dot or r.t. dot com also check out our two you tube channels the links of some part of our it's entire shows also available as a free video podcast arrives and we have a free tom hartman i phone or i pad out at the app store you can set as feedback on twitter as all others who are facebook and tell members who are our blogs message
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