archie sitting down with author blogger and public speaker james howard kunstler so thanks so much for joining us it's nice to be here let's get started with the occupy wall street movement we've seen many media outlets try to ridicule them marginalize this movement as something that's temporary and really an artist teenage behavior and you've essentially called this bogus in your blog let's talk about that what is your take on occupy wall street well first of all it's hell larry asked that all of these scolds in the media are shaking their fingers at these young people and say oh you don't you can articulate your position you have any agenda we're living in a time in the united states when the consensus about reality is so fractured even among people who are supposed to know what's going on that we cannot construct a coherent story about what's happening to us and what we're going to do about it so to expect the young people to be able to construct a coherent narrative when nobody else in the culture is capable of doing that i

think is a little unfair. what's more you can tell just from the placards that they're carrying around we know where their heads are at the the most significant or telling one that i saw said. i have seventy thousand dollars college debt twelve thousand dollars in medical bills i'm twenty two where's my bailout that's a good enough reason to be out there i think so and i think what it represents is very clear it's the idea that this younger generation feels like their future has been sold out from under them but with major unions joining we've seen a much more kind of mature knowledgeable group of people come out onto the streets thousands of people do you think that's reason enough for the media and politicians to really start taking this seriously i don't know if we're capable of really interpretating what's going on political. in our country right now you know i have

a pet theory that the more social and economic distress a culture goes through the greater the delusional thinking gets so that you know that as the social stress rises the crazy ideas and delusional ideas send tend to increase it's not a very. good it's not a very good set of conditions for you know arriving at a picture of reality if we compare occupy wall street to the arab spring we saw american politicians on the mainstream media plotting the arab spring yet this is somewhat of a similar beginning of some uprising along those lines isn't the old double standard a little bit too obvious yeah it's amazing it's amazing that we were cheerleading for all those people in the street in tahrir square you know anderson cooper was down there and you know all the other. usual media suspects were there cheering for

the protesters in spite of the fact that there was a very good chance that the outcome of the revolution might not be so good let's put it this way you know the outstanding feature of the politics in the last three years has been that nobody on wall street has had to sit in a court room to answer for the tremendous amount of misbehavior in banking and you know this includes acts that can only be described as swindles and frauds well people have been talking about the lack of accountability ever since the financial meltdown took place three years ago but we haven't seen anybody come out onto the streets why now and do you think that this movement could end up taking america to a better place at least in terms of pushing politicians to hold someone accountable . it's just that i do think there's a reason why we haven't seen

a lot of protests the kind of things that have been happening to americans are very shameful they lose their job they lose their income they can't support their families they can't feed their families their house gets taken away from them you know these are things that tend to be humiliating and shameful and i think that because of the way our system works where you know this is the land of freedom and liberty people blame themselves and they internalize the lot of the bad feelings and then you know they suppress it because it's shameful the combination of the shame and the anger that's all kind of mixed up with that has not really expressed itself and it may take a bit more to shove it over the edge and may take you know a bit more hardship now in one of your articles you say the hope invested in obama will end up in a museum of lost hopes along with the integrity of t.v. news i want to ask you if this were to be obama's only term as president what would

he be remembered like in history well i voted for obama i think that he's probably when all is said and done he's probably a decent chap but it also appears that he's either a hostage to history or a hostage to a certain faction in our culture an economy like the wall street bankers. remember over a thousand people were successfully prosecuted for the misdeeds in the savings and loan scandals of the late one nine hundred eighty s. and early one nine hundred ninety s. no significant figure from the banking community has really been even sat in a courtroom and had to answer for any of their their deeds you know there have been a couple of fluky cases including bernie made off you know these are outliers these are the marginal cases but really the heart of the system has. and been touched i

think that. mr obama will be remembered as kind of a spectacular failure and i also think that this is a period of history that is comparable to the eighteenth fifty's in the usa that was the period that preceded the civil war and it was a period in which political institutions were failing you know an interesting thing happens in situations like this institutions lose what's called legitimacy legitimacy a reason to exist and the faith among people who have subscribed to the their beliefs that they are worth believing in and the you know we're seeing a grand failure of legitimacy now in the political system in the usa and it's rather frightening you really sort of forecast every year for for the year ahead what the united states should await and in your forecast for twenty eleven you said that the number one question really is can a political economy be floating like

a when he will loon of gusts of sheer fakery how's that balloon pop yeah well i think that the air has been going out of it steadily but surprisingly slowly for three years and you know we're the whatever pin prick in this balloon you know where where it seems to be located at the moment is over europe with tremendous questions about the legitimacy of the european union and the banking sector more more generally but you know all of the banks in europe and north america are. interrelated and there's no chance that what happens on one continent is not going to affect another i think that you know sooner or later we're going to see similar problems in the usa the air is going out of the balloon. it's been remarkable that the. the fabric of this bubble was so strong but when all is said

and done it's a fabric of faith and confidence that the system is meaningful and sustainable and people are beginning to doubt that that it is if we could return to the role of the media you return to to the this issue in your blog quite often you've written that they shout down invited guest commentators pander to their demographic and dissed their rivals for ratings what role do they play these days well you know culture goes through cycles when institutions. take various forms acquire a certain legitimacy and then blow it throw it away and i've seen it happen in my lifetime where you know the the authority of the evening news on the networks was unquestioned but what's happened is that you know i think that the media has lost its confidence it's certainly in a great state of. convulsive transition we do know that

younger people tend not to really get their news from t.v. at all you know they mostly get it from the internet. there are very few kind of vested legitimate authorities on the internet who are trusted news bringers they all appear to have an agenda of some kind or another whether it's left wing right wing capitalist socialists you know we never won it is and you know i think we have a long way to go before any of these things are sorted out and it's one of the reasons that we can't construct a coherent narrative about what's happening to us do you think the united states could face its own per store i prefer to call it a reset because i don't think it's the end of the world or the end of culture or the end of america i think it's a reset of culture but it can be very very painful. and you know there will be

a lot of losses involved of of property and status and you know things that were important to people that they're going to lose and so we have to somehow be prepared for this period of history that's very difficult what i think we're seeing is something that i did expect that we would mount a campaign to sustain the unsustainable because of our tremendous psychological investments in the stuff that we've got running you know we put all of our national treasure into building freeways and building these massive suburbs and building all of the accessories and furnishings for them you know the strip malls and the malls and all the you know all the stuff that comes with them. that's where our national wealth has gone you know we're not going to just kick it into the garbage can without a struggle. but i don't think that it's going to work very well for us anyway so

the final in the final analysis what i think is going to happen is america is going to be dragged kicking and screaming into a reset of daily life james howard kunstler thank you so much your time.

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legal of their own albert pujols joints babe ruth and reggie jackson in the record books and louis cardinals take charge of the world series against texas. last respects the funeral of indy car star wells and is held in florida. who we start with the news that you zealand are the twenty eleven rugby world cup champions the all blacks triumphing by the normal waste of margins over a gallon french team in all clint it's amazing being the lowest scoring decider ever but it was also one of the most exciting one try a piece for the sides with tony woodcock going over for the hosts and fifteen minutes while french cup and deuces door touched on eight minutes after the break it was a stephen colbert penalty bill that would prove crucial eight seven the final score didn't park the all blacks just left to celebrate their second try never to. move

on to football where the top two in the russian premier league are in auction a little later today leaders in a scanning sunday's games going away to go to start the st petersburg evening to get back to winning ways following stalemates in their past too much is after about sports school be attempting to move up to fourth place at the expense of rock bottom siberians psalm and then the big ones. is second seeded c.s.k. moscow desperately in need of some form sitting mid table with just one win from their previous tough job. expect fireworks in the english game today not just from mario balotelli bathroom either his club that leading manchester city has crossed time rivals united in the first off sunday's five games striker. who was forced to escape from his heart when it caught fire late on friday night after he some friends have been let off fireworks it's not known as yet whether the

twenty one year old will start this afternoon elsewhere are still will be hoping to kickstart their campaign with victory at home against stoke full impulse to everton struggling blackburn are home to spurs while third place chelsea make the short journey. but it is building clash which will be fixed. if we leave. these groups what. they always are. things are looking tight in the final of the women's kremlin cup. currently going at it in moscow the score is now it has changed just this second six six in the second african athlete typically opening set six three simple but well she knocked out the last remaining russian in the semifinals that was the end

of best straight sets on saturday and that the cheetah tough all encounter with czech lucie safarova but up the moment it is can happen he looks in the driving seat but only chose. will be an all serbian men's final in moscow later on sunday with a young tip sort of fit set to take on defending champion viktor troicki russian three time champion nikolai duff a day able to make the ultimate rondo after going down two tips or if it had been struggling with his serve in the russian capital he bottled nagging left leg injury the thirty year old broken three times in the opener a long time sort of edge to take it six babies with the home crowd rallying behind him to look more composed in the second going five four up to serve it's no holding his serve it's not on his nerves when it mattered most before an inspired effort led him to a six two seven five. fourteen meanwhile has already shown his liking

for the kremlin cup cts winning the title last year on likely semifinalist this germy charge they did his best against the reigning champ troy tito breaking the frenchman late in the first to take it six four twenty five rule getting hot after the top dropping off the second exam scoreline with an a six four six for the finals. over the baseball's world series where the spotlight is shining firmly on albert holes today the senate louis cardinal hitting three home runs to help his side go ahead overall against texas in a big scoring sixteenth's. seven win on saturday the cards quickly getting to grips on their own adventures having migrated to texas for the first all three games david friess making it to nothing with a double in the fourth before mike enough police throwing error to double that advantage the rangers though fighting back to make it five three still in the

fourth but then poor old stood up to show why he won the m.v.p. award three times a three run home run in the six made of eleven six then a two run effort followed in the seventh before a solo run in the one quite amazing stuff the historic outing puts gould's alongside some illustrious company only babe ruth himself and reggie jackson three homers in a single world series. golf and world number one luke donald his chances of securing the p.g.a. money crawlin have taken a big hit following run three of the children's miracle network classic the thirty three year old falling some five shots behind leaders just in leonard on rookie kevin chappelle far from a mongo ride for donald disneyland losing run to webb simpson in the p.g.a. tour money title race despite a few solid approaches a double bogey on the fourteenth. shot later on the sixteenth scorecard

that needs to finish in a tie for second to cash in leonard meanwhile is in the share for the lead for the second straight day the thirty nine year old he had six birdie such as this chip in the ninth but also for bookies chapelle jones leonard with a one shot lead seven birdies for him in the day looting this on the twelfth. motor sport fans are paying their last respects to a racer who go down as one of the most electrifying man in open wheel racing two time indianapolis five hundred winner don weldon laid to rest in florida after a fatal crash in las vegas took his life well then was thirty three years old. fellow indy car drivers dario franchitti scott dixon tony serving paul burgess while numerous colleagues from across the recent spectrum also attended the funeral being inishmaan leaves a wife fun two sons aged two years and seven months all behind weldon one the indianapolis five hundred in two thousand and five and again this year he died

while competing in only his third indy car race of the twenty a level calendar weldon falling victim in a multi car crash in lap eleven of the season finale at the las vegas motor speedway some news actually just coming in to us italian writer marco symon cheli has died after a crash at the malaysian moto g.p. event in supplying the twenty four year old hit by two bikes attorney levin after veering into their pov sim and shelley had been a moto g.p. rider for two seasons following a checkered career in the lower classes so yet another tragedy in motor sport very sad news indeed let's move on finally the north american sport of lacrosse has become an unlikely pastime in russia the exciting game drawing lots of new followers here this year's constantine to top off explains. lacrosse is recognized as the oldest north american sport with origins in the fifth century the native

americans had to get to their horrocks even went as far as calling it the little brother off war many amendments have occurred since stand alone to popularity in the past indeed world wide to flourish. as a team game so it's got that competition thank is in the air so it's now here three dimensions and there's more scope for dinner clever stuff like that you know you've got to bring your stake in you've got yeah it's like an extension of yourself you know i think harry. and the cons i think it's kind of fun is ok you know padded up you know you're not going to get better really but he does not like i got the bug suddenly like for guys to land i think it's ok it's funny you know it was like ross has been a surprising revelation for russian audiences despite having few domestic players and just to be clubs one each in moscow and st petersburg this poor state sure is growing and every match between the rivals is a big event at the moment flooring fans are in the majority in the stands. i think

in russia it's a it's an upcoming sport it's you know it's a brand new sport and i think you know we have a lot of americans a lot of british people here on the china or play with the russians and teach the russians how to play the cross and hopefully integrate it into russian culture is a great game for young people because it's it's of the us but i don't think you know it's good to get out there to become fit to get stronger and to make friends to be on a team like ross has been a tool in big games in one thousand know for in nineteen no wait with candidates up in the boardroom on both occasions it's also the national summer sport of the country the physically demanding pastime with its full context stands not too dissimilar to the country number one sport ice hockey i was looking for team mates to play hockey but got into lacrosse and now i like it not a lot of people here know anything about the game and i like to watch people. as amazed faces when they see my stake in helmets in the streets it has

a lot in common with hockey so i mean there's hitting i mean the game itself the strategy involved it's pretty similar to hockey and hockey is popular here so i mean i think you can definitely grow in russia there is still a long way to go full across before it becomes a well known sport on russian soil but if the enthusiasm of the people really playing it here is anything to go by the signs are that it will happen sooner rather than later because a mother vote or. not is where we leave the sport for this our world weather is coming up in just a tech then research she is here with all the news at the top of the hour. well. bringing you the latest in science and technology from around the world. we've got the future covered.

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