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welcome back you with us you live from moscow are you watching the weekly hear the latest news in the week's top stories up bloodstained end to an era in libya where allegations colonel gadhafi was executed by the interim government troops. breaking point the week clashes erupting in greece as people were hit with more sturdy measures all of this while e.u. leaders are up against meeting to try and resolve the ongoing. battle over barricades nato forces failed to remove roadblocks by force of the disputed serbia kosovo border ethnic serbs got to stop the peacekeepers in advance . and a historic moment a russian soyuz rocket sets off from a french space base in the tropics it's carrying europe's first satellite navigation system. called the ongoing occupy wall street movement which started
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over a month ago shows no signs of slowing down and next we'll talk to author and social critic james cussler about the phenomenon and what kind of impact it's going to make on the future of the united states. i. archie sitting down with author blogger and public speaker james howard kunstler so i think so much for joining us and it's nice to be here let's get started with the occupy wall street movement we've seen many media outlets try to ridicule them marginalize this movement as something that's temporary and really advocates teenage behavior and you've essentially called this bogus in your blog let's talk about that what is your take on occupy wall street well first of all it's hilarious that all of these scolds in the media are shaking their fingers at these young people and say oh you don't you can articulate your position you don't have any
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agenda we're living in a time in the united states when the consensus about reality is so fractured even among people who are supposed to know what's going on that we cannot construct a coherent story about what's happening to us and what we're going to do about it so can we expect the young people to be able to construct a coherent narrative when nobody else in the culture is capable of doing that i think a little unfair. what's more you can tell just from the placards that they're carrying around when you know where their heads are at the the most significant or telling one that i saw said. i have seventy thousand dollars college debt twelve thousand dollars in medical bills i'm twenty two where's my bailout that's a good enough reason to be out there i think so and i think what it represents is
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very clear it's the idea that this younger generation feels like their future has been sold out from under them with major unions joining we've seen a much more kind of mature knowledgeable group of people come out onto the streets thousands of people do you think that's reason enough for the media and politicians to really start taking this seriously i don't know if we're capable of really interpretating what's going on politically in our country right now in oh i have a pet theory that the more social and economic distress a culture goes through the greater the delusional thinking gets so that you know as these social stress rises the crazy ideas and delusional ideas and tend to increase it's not a very. good it's not a very good set of conditions for you know arriving at a picture of reality if we compare occupy wall street to the arab spring we saw
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american politicians on the mainstream media lauding the arab spring yet this is somewhat of a sudden beginning of some uprising along those lines doesn't go double standard a little bit too obvious yeah it's amazing it's amazing that we were cheerleading for all those people in the street in tahrir square you know anderson cooper was down there and you know all the other. usual media suspects were there cheering for the protesters in spite of the fact that there were there was a very good chance that the outcome of the revolution might not be so good let's put it this way you know the outstanding feature of the politics in the last three years. has been that nobody on wall street has had to sit in a court room answer for the tremendous amount of misbehavior in banking and you know this includes acts that can only be described as swindles and
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frauds well people have been talking about the lack of accountability ever since the financial meltdown took place three years ago but we haven't seen anybody come out onto the streets why now and do you think that this movement could end up taking america to a better place at least in terms of pushing college politicians to hold someone accountable if just you know i do think there's a reason why we haven't seen a lot of protests the kind of things that have been happening to americans are very shameful they lose or draw up they lose their income they can't support their families they can't feed their families their house gets taken away from them you know these are things that tend to be humiliating in cheam for and i think that because of the way our system works where you know this is the land of freedom and liberty people blame themselves and they internalize the lot of the bad feelings
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and then you know they suppress it because it's shameful the combination of the shame and the anger that's all kind of mixed up with that has not really expressed itself and it may take a bit more to shove it over the edge and may take you know a bit more hardship now in one of your articles you say the hope invested in obama will end up in a museum of lost hopes along with the integrity of t.v. news i want to ask you if this were to be obama's only term as president what would he be remembered like in history well i voted for obama i think that he's probably all said and done he's probably a decent chap but it also appears that he's either a hostage to history or a hospital. certain factions most in our culture and economy like the wall street bankers. remember over a thousand people were successfully prosecuted for the misdeeds in the savings and
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loan scandals of the late one nine hundred eighty s. and early one nine hundred ninety s. no significant figure from the banking community has really been even sat in a courtroom and had to answer for any of their their deeds you know there have been a couple of fluky cases including bernie made off you know these are outliers these are the marginal cases but really the heart of the system hasn't been touched i think that. mr obama will be remembered as kind of a spectacular failure and i also think that this is a period of history that is comparable to the eight hundred fifty s. in the usa that was the period that preceded the civil war and it was a period in which political institutions were failing you know an interesting thing happens in situations like this institutions lose what's called legitimacy legitimacy a reason to exist and the faith among people who have subscribed to the their
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beliefs that they are worth believing in and you know we're seeing a grand failure of legitimacy now in the political system in the usa and it's rather frightening you really sort of forecast every year for the year ahead what the united states should await and your forecast for twenty eleven you said that the number one question really is can a political economy be floating like a when he that google loon of costs of sheer fakery has the balloon pop yeah well i think that the air is been going out of it steadily but surprisingly slowly for three years and you know we're the whatever pin. prick in this balloon you know where where it seems to be located at the moment is over europe with tremendous questions about the legitimacy of the european union and the banking
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sector more and more generally but you know all of the banks in europe and north america are. interrelated and there's no chance that what happens on one continent is not going to affect another i think that there are sooner or later we're going to see similar problems in the usa the air is going out of the balloon. it's been remarkable that the fabric of this bubble was so strong but when all is said and done it's a fabric of faith and confidence that the system is meaningful and sustainable and people are beginning to doubt that that it that it is if we could return to the role of the media that you return to this issue in your blog quite often you've written that they shout down invited guests commentators pander to their demographic and dissed their rivals for ratings what role do they play these things well you know culture goes through cycles when institutions. take various
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forms acquire a certain legitimacy and then blow it throw it away and i've seen it happen in my lifetime where you know the the authority of the evening news on the networks was unquestioned but what's happened is that you know i think that the media has lost its confidence it's certainly in a great state of. convulsive transition we do know that younger people tend not to really get their news from t.v. at all you know they mostly get it from the internet. there are very few kind of vested legitimate authorities on the internet who are trust. good news bringers they all appear to have an agenda of some kind or another whether it's a left wing right wing capitalist socialist you know we are one it is and you know i think we have
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a long way to go before any of these things are sorted out and it's one of the reasons that we can't construct a coherent narrative about what's happening to us do you think the united states could face its own perestroika i prefer to call it a reset because i don't think it's the end of the world or the end of culture or the end of america i think it's a reset of culture but it but it can be very very painful and you know there will be a lot of losses and bought the property and status and you know things that were important to people that they're going to lose and so we have to somehow be prepared for this period of history that's very difficult what i think we're seeing is something that i did expect that we would mount a campaign to sustain the unsustainable because of our tremendous psychological investments in the stuff that we've got running you know we put all of our national
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treasure into building freeways and building these massive suburbs and building all of the accessories and furnishings for them you know the strip malls and the malls and all the you know all the stuff that comes with them. that's where our national wealth has gone and you know we're not going to just kick it into the garbage can without a struggle. but i don't think that it's going to work very well for us anyway so the final in the final analysis what i think is going to happen is america is going to be dragged kicking and screaming into a reset of daily life james howard kunstler thank you so much for welcome your time . from the days of the manhattan project and maintenance went to the university of california has been involved through the science of its provision and sciences and their relationship clean versity you see since day one has been in charge of
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researching and design and testing nuclear weapons and to some extent producing weapons every single nuclear weapon in surveys arsenal was signed by university of california. we don't warm go. to the first new california was selected as the clock struck because the army needed scientists of needs there are versus the position it's. a group of protesters interrupted a university of california border regions meeting to demand the school's ever times with the nation's nuclear weapons program.
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week's top stories on our t.v. a blood stained end to an era in libya allegations colonel gadhafi was executed by the interim government's true. breaking point this week violent clashes erupted in greece as people were hit with yet more sturdy measure all the leaders up against the clock meeting to try and resolve the crisis. battle over barricades nato forces failed to remove roadblocks by force of the disputed serbia kosovo border. god the blockade to stop the peacekeepers but. historic moment the russian soyuz rocket sets off my space space in the tropics carrying. satellite navigation some. more news for you in fifteen minutes time off the sports with.
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hello there welcome to this. thanks for joining us this hour first let's take a quick look at what's making this sporting headlines around the world. like out zealand crowned rugby world cup champions for the second time following a close to seven victory over france. because in russia the exciting game for north america draws a lot so if you follow the course of. very sad news italian roger marco simoncelli dies after a graphic clash and lation those are g.p. in six. new zealand twenty seven rugby world cup champions the all blacks triumphing by the narrowest of margins over a french team in a client it's made of it may have been the lowest scoring to start ever but it was also one of the most exciting untried place for the sides with tony going over for
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the highlights from fifteen minutes of french capped sensory i just walk touched down eight minutes after the break stephen told how to though that crucial to seven the final score at eden park all black starts left to celebrate the second round. the guys who gave it won the world cup and there is a state. i would be through a lot together is richard seed and a lot of the guys played in the last world cup. final and the witnesses. is not good for quite frankly. now football when the russian premier league leaders in it have wreaked hate their top sport following a three one away victory to restore the visitors made it nine minutes to open the scoring was done a registered and now legal. and there were two minutes in the planned eager small like a son of a higher in the air
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a referee had no other option but to point to this port look which make no mistake that by the thirty second minutes in it extended belly to free the heart of had to cross to become oncet pulled one back straight after the break but that was it for the health so three one it finished and soon top of the strength. tempting to move place at the expense of row seats on the latest score there in terms of the muscovites and then the big one similar to sanjeev second place most good images desperately in need of some form sitting in the table with just one win from the previous half a dozen games. to the english premier league now where manchester city have thrashed cross-town rivals united six one at all trafford or ability and. each
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with a double there for the visit. had a big consolation though for alex ferguson's men. cannot three one win is against stoke city picked up over a few points in other games struggling. tend to. third place chelsea at the short journey to do both queens park rangers. and i was take a look at brazilian football where current champ. lost to the nearest bar two goals and missed their chance to move third in the table this is open this eleven minutes into the game through probably stuff that's. building around the net from the out as he struck a player to be too strong for a few minutes ago. but let's give an era. in personal things or a time bala's cross powerful ahead of home. and to finish the. miserable night for the hosts free the coliseum are set off. several minutes before the
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final whistle. dominik it's a ball cover has won her first ever career double to a title of a kremlin card that starts the brits in connecting the women's singles final in the russian capital think i'll tie it up to where three sets was a stoner to open up rather easily six three seats stormed back in the second yes she wanted to in a tie break tokyo was also but in the decider taking seven five for the match and a trophy. in the men's game. to claim the title of following a straight sets victory over competitors and defending champ and victor troitsky took six of three which took the opening set six four and who was even more confident in the second one dropped only two games that to win the cup in. the north americans also look force has become an unlikely pastime in russia the
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exciting game drawing a lot of new followers here this year as consent to put up now explains. what crosses recognized is that all this north american sports with origins in the field centric the native americans could take it today horowitz even went as far as calling it the little brother of war many amendments have occurred since stand alone its popularity need yes indeed world wide to flourish. is a team game so it's got that competition think it's in the air so it's now here three dimensions and there's more scope for the clever stuff like that you know you got the estate when you got here it's like if they said it yourself i think harry. and because i think it's kind of fun is ok you think that you know you're not going to get hurt really but he does know like i got the bug suddenly like four guys in the land like it's kids finally you know it was like ross has been a surprising revelation for russian audiences he's been having few domestic players
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and just to be clubs one each in moscow and st peter's this poor state sure is growing in every match between the rivals is a big event at the moment foreign fans are in the majority in the stands. i think in russia it's a it's an upcoming sport it's you know it's a premier sport and i think you know we have a lot of americans a lot of british people here who are trying to play with the russians and the russians are to play the cross and hopefully integrate it into russian culture it's a great game for young people because it's kids of us but i don't and if you know it's good to see out there to become fit to get stronger and to make friends to be icing what course has been a tool in big games in one thousand all for inlaid you know weight with candidates up in the quarter human both occasions it's also the national some was poor of the country the physically demanding pastime with its full context not too dissimilar to the country number one sport ice hockey i was looking for team mates to play
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hockey and got into lacrosse and now i like it not a lot of people here know anything about the game and i like to watch people was amazed. faces when they see my stick and helmets in the streets it has a lot of common with hockey so i mean the shooting i mean the game itself tragedy involved it's pretty similar to hockey and hockey is popular here so i mean i think it could definitely grow in russia there is still a long way to be awful of course before it becomes a well known sport on russian soil leaf the enthusiasm of the people really playing it here is anything to go by the signs and it will happen sooner rather than a mother or a chief. very sad news italian writer marcus in on charlie has died after a crash at the malaysian moto g.p. and surpassing the twenty four year old was hit by two parts a tunnel levon bearing the cost of calling edwards and valentino rossi american wives are also filed but escaped serious injury but instead are also was able to return to the pits the races and needed to stop after the tragedy. had been in that
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age the water for two seasons following a checkered career and that process so it's another tragedy and just felt. in our medical staff arrived when he was unconscious. because their house arrest and started this c.p.r. . patient. mask. immediately the medical center. of the doctor of our stop didn't come out with. those he was intubated. possible to wait to take off some blood from the dogs and the c.p.r. was continued to that for forty five minutes. ok and today more sports news from rather blow for into i stand here not say where there is next.
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just say from the days of the manhattan project an eight hundred forty two the university of california has been involved through the science of its provision and scientists and their relationship to the first city you see since day one has been in charge of researching design as to nuclear weapons and to some extent producing weapons every single nuclear weapon in surveys arsenal. by university of california. we don't warm the. university of california was tough. selected as the because the army needed scientists who needs their
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