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i. archie is sitting down with author blogger and public speaker james howard kunstler so thanks so much for joining us it's nice to be here let's get started with the occupy wall street movement is seen many media outlets try to ridicule them marginalize this movement as something that's temporary and really an artist teenage behavior and you've essentially called this bogus in your blog let's talk about that what is your take on occupy wall street well first of all it's hilarious that all of these scolds in the media are shaking their fingers at these young people and say oh you don't you can articulate your position you don't have any agenda we're living in a time in the united states when the consensus about reality is so fractured even among people who are supposed to know what's going on that we cannot construct a coherent story about what's happening to us and what we're going to do about it
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so to expect the young people to be able to construct a coherent narrative when nobody else in the culture is capable of doing that i think is a little unfair. what's more you can tell just from the placards that they're carrying around we know where their heads are at the the most significant or telling one that i saw said. i have seventy thousand dollars college debt twelve thousand dollars in medical bills i'm twenty two where's my bailout that's a good enough reason to be out there i think so and i think what it represents is very clear it's the idea that this younger generation feels like their future has been sold out from under them but with major unions joining we've seen a much more kind of mature knowledgeable group of people come out onto the streets thousands of people do you think that's reason enough for the media and politicians
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to really start taking this seriously i don't know if we're capable of really interpretating what's going on politically in our country right now you know i have a pet theory that the more social and economic distress a culture goes through the the greater the delusional thinking gets so that you know as the social stress rises the crazy ideas and delusional ideas and tend to increase it's not a very. good it's not a very good set of conditions for you know arriving at a picture of reality if we compare occupy wall street to the arab spring we saw american politicians on the mainstream media plotting the arab spring yet this is somewhat of a similar beginning of some uprising along those lines isn't the double standard a little bit too obvious yeah it's amazing it's amazing that we were cheerleading for all those people in the street in tahrir square you know anderson cooper was
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down there and you know all the other. usual media suspects were there cheering for the protesters in spite of the fact that there was a very good chance that the outcome of the revolution might not be so good let's put it this way you know the outstanding feature of the politics in the last three years. there's has been that nobody on wall street has had to sit in a court room to answer for the tremendous amount of misbehavior in banking and you know this includes acts that can only be described as swindles and frauds well people have been talking about the lack of accountability ever since the financial meltdown took place three years ago but we haven't seen anybody come out onto the streets why now and do you think that this movement could end up
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taking america to a better place at least in terms of pushing politicians to hold someone accountable if just i do think there's a reason why we haven't seen a lot of protests the kind of things that have been happening to americans are very shameful they lose their job they lose their income they can't support their families they can't feed their families their house gets taken away from them you know these are things that tend to be humiliating in shameful and i think that because of the way our system works where you know this is the land of freedom and liberty people blame themselves and they internalize the lot of the bad feelings and then you know they suppress it because it's shameful the combination of the shame and the anger that's all kind of mixed up with that has not really expressed itself and it may take a bit more to shove it over the edge and may take you know a bit more hardship now in one of your articles you say the hope invested in obama
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will end up in a museum of lost hopes along with the integrity of t.v. news i want to ask you if this were to be obama's only term as president what would he be remembered like in history well i voted for obama i think that he's probably when all is said and done he's probably a decent chap but it also appears that he's either a hostage to history or hostin. certain factions most in our culture and economy like the wall street bankers. remember over a thousand people were successfully prosecuted for the misdeeds in the savings and loan scandals of the late one nine hundred eighty s. and early one nine hundred ninety s. no significant figure from the banking community has really been even sat in a courtroom and had to answer for any of their their deeds you know there have been a couple of fluky cases including bernie made off you know these are outliers these
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are the marginal cases but really the heart of the system hasn't been touched i think that. mr obama will be remembered as kind of a spectacular failure and i also think that this is a period of history that is comparable to the eight hundred fifty s. in the usa that was the period that preceded the civil war and it was a period in which political institutions were failing you know an interesting thing happens in situations like this institutions lose what's called legitimacy legitimacy a reason to exist and the faith among people who have subscribed to the their beliefs that they are worth believing in and you know we're seeing a grand failure of legitimacy now in the political system in the usa and it's rather frightening you really sort of forecast every year for for the year ahead
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what the united states should await and in your forecast for twenty eleven you said that the number one question really is can a political economy be floating like a when he will loon of gusts of sheer fakery how's that balloon pop yeah well i think that the air has been going out of it steadily but surprisingly slowly for three years and you know we're the whatever pin. in this balloon you know where where it seems to be located at the moment is over europe with tremendous questions about the legitimacy of the european union and the banking sector more more generally but you know all of the banks in europe and north america are. interrelated and there's no chance that what happens on one continent is not going to affect another i think that you know sooner or later we're going to see similar problems in the usa the air is going out of the balloon. it's been
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remarkable that the fabric of this bubble was so strong but when all is said and done it's a fabric of faith and confidence that the system is meaningful and sustainable and people are beginning to doubt that that it is if we could return to the role of the media you return to to the this issue in your blog quite often you've written that they shout down invited guest commentators pander to their demographic and dissed their rivals for ratings what role do they play these days well you know culture goes through cycles when institutions. take various forms acquire a certain legitimacy and then blow it throw it away and i've seen it happen in my lifetime where you know the the authority of the evening news on the networks was unquestioned but what's happened is that you know i think that the the media has
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lost its confidence it's certainly in a great state of. convulsive transition we do know that younger people tend not to really get their news from t.v. at all you know they mostly get it from the internet. there are very few kind of vested legitimate authorities on the internet who are trust. good news bringers they all appear to have an agenda of some kind or another whether it's left wing right wing capitalist socialists you know we never won it is and you know i think we have a long way to go before any of these things are sorted out and it's one of the reasons that we can't construct a coherent narrative about what's happening to us do you think the united states could face its own per store i prefer to call it a reset because i don't think it's the end of the world or the end of culture or
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the end of america i think it's a reset of culture but it can be very very painful and you know there will be a lot of losses involved of of property and status and you know things that were important to people that they're going to lose and so we have to somehow be prepared for this period of history that's very difficult what i think we're seeing is something that i did expect that we would mount a campaign to sustain the unsustainable because of our tremendous psychological investments in the stuff that we've got running you know we put all of our national treasure into building freeways and building these massive suburbs and building all of the accessories and furnishings for them you know the strip malls and the malls and all the you know all the stuff that comes with them. that's where our national wealth has gone you know we're not going to just kick it into the garbage can
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without a struggle. but i don't think that it's going to work very well for us anyway so the final in the final analysis what i think is going to happen is america is going to be dragged kicking and screaming into a reset of daily life james howard kunstler thank you so much time. from the days of the manhattan project in one thousand forty two the university of california has been involved through the science of its provision and scientists and their relationship between versity you see since day one has been in charge of researching and designing and testing nuclear weapons and to some extent producing weapons every single long nuclear weapon in cities arsenal was signed by university of california. we don't
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warm go. to university of california who was selected as the contract because the army needed scientists who needs their versus the position it's. a group of protesters interrupted a university of california border regions meeting to demand the schools sever ties with the nation's nuclear weapons program.
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a meeting to try and resolve the. nato forces failed to remove. the disputed. border. stop the peacekeepers. from. satellite navigation. and fifteen minutes off the sports with. hello there welcome to the sports on dates here not to thanks for joining us this hour let's take a quick look at what's making this sporting headlines around the world. blackouts
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these ilands are crowned rugby world cup champions for the second time following a close to seven victory over france. cross in russia the exciting game from north america draws a lot of new followers across the ocean. very sad news to tell and rather marco simoncelli dies after a graphic crash at the lation in a sick tank. they turned seven rugby world cup champions the all blacks chanting by the narrowest of margins over a french team in auckland that made it it may have been the lowest scoring to start ever but it was also one of the most exciting contrast place for the sides with tony cox going over for the house on fifteen minutes french kept i just touched down eight minutes after the break stephen don't. prove crucial to seven the final score at eden park the all blacks thus left to celebrate their second
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world crowd. the guys who have won the world cup and there is outstanding. i would been through a lot together as richie to see. a lot of the guys played in the last world cup. final with the quarter final and the witnesses. does not which were quite frankly. football when their russian premier league leaders in it have retained their top sports following a three one away victory to restore his need at nine minutes to open the scoring done a registered another girl. there were two minutes in defend a very small like a felled alexander behind in the air so the referee had no other option but to point to this port look which make no mistake that turning now by the thirty second minutes in it extended early to free goals had to cross to become mount pulled one back straight after the break but that was it for the health so we want to finish.
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top of the stand. tempting to move to fourth place at the expense of rock f.c. so on the latest score there in terms to the muscovites and then the big one similar to the second place scum most good in my country desperately in need of some form sitting in the table with just one win from the previous half a dozen games. to the english premier league now where manchester city have fresh cross-town rivals united six want to talk trafford marable italy and. make sure the top of it for the visitors while added big consolation go for alex ferguson's men. came out three one winners against stoke city picked up over four points in other games struggling tend to. third place chelsea like the short journey to new boys
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queens park rangers. and now a second look at brazilian football where current champ. lost to the nearest bar two goals and missed the chance to move in the table this is open the scoring eleven minutes into the game through. efforts. to matilda down the net from the pout as they struck appeared to be too strong for him and as a goalkeeper diego let's give an error. in first half injury time palace cross africa had home at the net. and to finish their. miserable night for the hosts three good policy sent off. several minutes before the final whistle. and it is there is no word dominik it's a book over has won her first ever career double to a title big kremlin cop that's off to bits in connecting the women's singles final here in the russian capital think how that turned out to beth it was
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a stone and took the rather easily six free seats stormed back in the second place she wanted to on a tie break. but in the decider taking seven five for the match and the trophy. in the men's game. to claim the title following a straight sets victory over competitor and defending champion victor troitsky took two to three which to the opening set six four and who was given more confident in the second one dropped only two games there to win the cup. the north american sport of lacrosse has become an unlikely pastime in russia the exciting game drawing a lot of new followers here this year is considered the top of now explains. lacrosse is recognized as the oldest north american sport with origins in the fifth century the native americans could to get to their horrocks even went as far as calling it the little brother off war many amendments have occurred since stand
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alone to popularity in the past indeed worldwide to flourish. is a team game so it's got that competition bank is in the air so it's not here three dimensional think there's more scope for ten or clever stuff like that you know you've got to bring your stake in you got yeah it's like an extension of yourself you know i think very. well because i think it's kind of fun is ok you know padded up you know you're not going to get better and really if you see there's no like i got the bug suddenly like four guys to land i think it's ok it's funny you know it's amusing like ross has been a surprising revelation for russian audiences despite having few domestic players and just to be clubs one each in moscow and st petersburg this poor state sure is growing and every match between the rivals is a big advantage at the moment flooring fans are in the majority in the stands. i think in russia it's a it's an upcoming sport it's you know it's a brand new sport and i think you know we have a lot of americans
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a lot of british people here. are play with the russians and teach the russians how to play the cross and hopefully integrate it into russian culture is a great game for young people because it's it's of i thought i dynamic you know it's good to get out there to become to get stronger and to make friends to be a team like ross has been a tool in big games in one thousand all four in nineteen zero weight with canada topping the podium on both occasions it's also the national summer sport of the country the physically demanding pastime with its full context and not too dissimilar to the country number one sport ice hockey i was looking for team mates to play hockey but got into lacrosse and now i like it not a lot of people here know anything about the game i like to watch people's amazed. faces when they see my state can help me to the streets it has a lot in common with hockey so i mean there's hitting i mean the game itself strategy involved it's pretty similar to hockey and hockey is popular here so i
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mean i think it could definitely grow in russia there is still a long way to go full across before it becomes a well known sport in russian soil but if be infusing is a move that people really play need here is anything to go by the signs are there to be will happen sooner rather than leave his name out of our chief i. and file a very sad news it's democracy one child has died after a crash at the malaysian moto g.p. event instead pang the twenty four year old was hit by two bites at tunnel level there in the path of color and whites and valentino rossi the american rider also fell but escaped serious injury a fellow tara also was able to return to the pits the race was immediately stopped after the tragedy. had been and to be rather for two seasons following at checkered career and that low passes so yet another tragedy in about a spot. where our medical staff arrived on him he was unconscious on us because their house arrest him started this c.p.r.
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. of a suspicion we'd learn joan ask. immediately the medical center. doctor of our stop didn't come on. those he was intubated it was possible to wait to take off some blood from the dogs and the c.p.r. was continental for forty five minutes. ok today more sports news from rather glow for in ties time here not saying whether is next.
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provision and scientists and their relationship to the university you see since day one has been in charge of researching designing and testing nuclear weapons and to some extent producing weapons every single nuclear weapon inside a is arsenal. by university of california. we don't warm the. university of california was. selected as the because the army needed scientists of their versity physicians. a group of protesters interrupted a university of california border regions meeting to demand the school's sever ties with the nation's nuclear weapons program.
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