archie sitting down with author blogger and public speaker james howard kunstler so thanks so much for joining us it's nice to be here let's get started with the occupy wall street movement we've seen many media outlets try to ridicule them marginalize this movement as something that's temporary and really an artist teenage behavior and you've essentially called this bogus in your blog let's talk about that what is your take on occupy wall street well first of all it's hell larry asked that all of these scolds in the media are shaking their fingers at these young people and say oh you don't you can articulate your position you have any agenda we're living in a time in the united states when the consensus about reality is so fractured even among people who are supposed to know what's going on that we cannot construct a coherent story about what's happening to us and what we're going to do about it so to expect the young people to be able to construct a coherent narrative when nobody else in the culture is capable of doing that i

think it's a little unfair. what's more you can tell just from the placards that they're carrying around we know where their heads are at the the most significant or telling one that i saw said. i have seventy thousand dollars college debt twelve thousand dollars in medical bills i'm twenty two where's my bailout that's a good enough reason to be out there right i think so and i think what it represents is very clear it's the idea that this younger generation feels like their future has been sold out from under them but with major unions joining we've seen a much more kind of mature knowledgeable group of people come out onto the streets thousands of people do you think that's reason enough for the media and politicians to really start taking this seriously i don't know if we're capable of really interpretating what's going on politically in our country right now you know i have

a pet theory that the more social and economic distress a culture goes through the greater the delusional thinking gets so that you know as the social stress rises the crazy ideas and delusional ideas send tend to increase it's not a very. good it's not a very good set of conditions for you know arriving at a picture of reality if we compare occupy wall street to the arab spring we saw american politicians on the mainstream media plotting the arab spring yet this is somewhat of a similar beginning of some uprising along those lines isn't the double standard a little bit too obvious yeah it's amazing it's amazing that we were cheerleading for all those people in the street in tahrir square you know anderson cooper was down there and you know all the other. usual media suspects were there cheering for

the protesters in spite of the fact that there was a very good chance that the outcome of the revolution might not be so good let's put it this way you know the outstanding feature of the politics in the last three years. there's has been that nobody on wall street has had to sit in a court room to answer for the tremendous amount of misbehavior in banking and you know this includes acts that can only be described as swindles and frauds well people have been talking about the lack of accountability ever since the financial meltdown took place three years ago but we haven't seen anybody come out onto the streets why now and do you think that this movement could end up taking america to a better place at least in terms of pushing college politicians to hold someone

accountable if just i do think there's a reason why we haven't seen a lot of protests the kind of things that have been happening to americans are very shameful they lose their job they lose their income they can't support their families they can't feed their families their house gets taken away from them you know these are things that tend to be humiliating and shameful and i think that because of the way our system works where you know this is the land of freedom and liberty people blame themselves and they internalize the lot of the bad feelings and then you know they suppress it because it's shameful the combination of the shame and the anger that's all kind of mixed up with that has not really expressed itself and it may take a bit more to shove it over the edge you may take you know a bit more hardship now in one of your articles you say the hope invested in obama will end up in a museum of lost hopes along with the integrity of t.v.

news i want to ask you if this were to be obama's only term as president what would he be remembered like in history well i voted for obama i think that he's probably all said and done he's probably a decent chap but it also appears that he's either a hostage to history or hostin. certain factions most in our culture and economy like the wall street bankers. remember over a thousand people were successfully prosecuted for the misdeeds in the savings and loan scandals of the late one nine hundred eighty s. and early one nine hundred ninety s. no significant figure from the banking community has really been even sat in a courtroom and had to answer for any of their their deeds you know there have been a couple of fluky cases including bernie made off you know these are outliers these are the marginal cases but really the heart of the system hasn't been touched i

think that. mr obama will be remembered as kind of a spectacular failure and i also think that this is a period of history that is comparable to the eighteenth fifty's in the usa that was the period that preceded the civil war and it was a period in which political institutions were failing you know an interesting thing happens in situations like this institutions lose what's called legitimacy legitimacy a reason to exist and the faith among people who have subscribed to the their beliefs that they are worth believing in and you know we're seeing a grand failure of legitimacy now in the political system in the usa and it's rather frightening you really sort of forecast every year for for the year ahead what the united states should await and in your forecast for twenty eleven you said that the number one question really is can a political economy be floating like

a when he a loon of gusts of sheer fakery has that balloon pop yeah well i think that the air has been going out of it steadily but surprisingly slowly for three years and you know we're the whatever pin. in this balloon you know where where it seems to be located at the moment is over europe with tremendous questions about the legitimacy of the european union and the banking sector more more generally but you know all of the banks in europe and north america are. interrelated there's no chance that what happens on one continent is not going to affect another i think that there are sooner or later we're going to see similar problems in the usa the air is going out of the balloon. it's been remarkable that

the fabric of this bubble was so strong but when all is said and done it's a fabric of faith and confidence that the system is meaningful and sustainable and people are beginning to doubt that that it is if we could return to the role of the media you return to to the this issue in your blog quite often you've written that they shout down invited guest commentators pander to their demographic and dissed their rivals for ratings what role do they play these days well you know culture goes through cycles when institutions. take various forms acquire a certain legitimacy and then blow it throw it away and i've seen it happen in my lifetime where you know the authority of the evening news on the networks was unquestioned but what's happened is that you know i think that the the media has lost its confidence it's certainly in

a great state of. convulsive transition we do know that younger people tend not to really get their news from t.v. at all you know they mostly get it from the internet. there are very few kind of vested legitimate authorities on the internet who are trust. good news bringers they all appear to have an agenda of some kind or another whether it's left wing right wing capitalist socialists you know we never won it is and you know i think we have a long way to go before any of these things are sorted out and it's one of the reasons that we can't construct a coherent narrative about what's happening to us do you think the united states could face its own per store i prefer to call it a reset because i don't think it's the end of the world or the end of culture or the end of america i think it's a reset of culture but it can be very very painful and you know there will be

a lot of losses involved of of property and status and you know things that were important to people that they're going to lose and so we have to somehow be prepared for this period of history that's very difficult what i think we're seeing is something that i did expect that we would mount a campaign to sustain the unsustainable because of our tremendous psychological investments in the stuff that we've got running you know we put all of our national treasure into building freeways and building these massive suburbs and building all of the accessories and furnishings for them you know the strip malls and the malls and all the you know all the stuff that comes with them. that's where our national wealth has gone you know we're not going to just kick it into the garbage can without a struggle. but i don't think that it's going to work very well for us anyway so

the final in the final analysis what i think is going to happen is america is going to be dragged kicking and screaming into a reset of daily life james howard kunstler thank you so much your time. the louie. just say.

the folks. a very warm welcome to you this is your news today protesters on the. streets they have. ladies and gentlemen your chance to choose seems to get the status of the human experiment. we've seen this rap music. movies lately trying to make sense of local economies and it's all changed things as financial templates for the research family to maintain a confidence in markets and. wants to be seen trade imbalances recession look keep the nation's close to collapsing a few close homesick to fail so we played the game sealevel speaking as

a us crash and seven in smashed ceiling team feels it's like ultimate an explosion in streaks the ice construction just programs increase the total economy. the for. the latest news out of the week's top stories in aussie leavis celebrations they offered stained by bloody at cons of the death of its late leader so again as a match colonel gadhafi was executed by a lynch mob of rebel fighters and while the posts get out the future looks tense as soon as ethnic and tribal divisions imagine monk leaving is once united in revolution. breaking points this week violent clashes erupted increases people were

hit with more sterrett imagine while you beat is up against the cloak made to try and resulted to. basle of the barricades nato forces failed to remove roadblocks at the disputed said because of a border that's ethnic some of it's going to be located to stop the peacekeepers of bonds. right now in our state's time to get all the we can sporting action was twenty three. part of their welcome to this whole subject turned out to thanks for joining us this hour first let's take a quick look at what's making the sporting headlines around the globe. blackout new zealand crowned rugby world cup champions for the second time following a close eighty seven victory over france. backcross in russia the exciting game for

north america draws a lot of new followers across the ocean. and the first of a career double it's a tired old america it's a book of survival big canapé in the women's singles final comical in the russian capital. so new zealand twenty eleven rugby world cup champions the all blacks try a thing by the narrowest of margins of a french team in auckland it may have been the love with scoring decide ever but it was also one of the most exciting one try a pace for the sides return to work kowtowing ever for the house fifteen minutes in a french captain to reduce touchdown minutes after the break of the stephen don't pouty group prove crucial eight to seven the final school ends and part of the all black starts to celebrate their second world crown. the guys who have

won the world cup and that is outstanding. i would been through a lot together as richard c. and a lot of the guys tried in the last world cup. and fell at the quarter final and the witnesses. does not which were quite frankly close to the certainly we have always thought we always said that the all blacks were the best team of all time but tonight i think i would seem was great even tremendous but it was difficult we needed just a tiny bit more. now football when the russian premier league ladies and they have retained their top spot following a three one away victory to restore faith they visited nihilists open this coring has done it registered an hour ago there for two minutes and defend smaller now alexander before if in the area so the referee had no other option but to point to the spot and it's a look which make no mistake that turning now by the thirty second minute extended

l.a. to three girls were hard headed how to cross to become all to hold one go but straight after the break but that was it for the house so for want to finish and are still on top of the standings i. i. start out moscow meanwhile have gone forth in the standings as if fresh rockport f.c. tom at luzhniki stadium for nail marks opened the scoring for the muscovites with ten minutes brazil a striker double delayed just before the break se had plenty of time to fire his powerful shot into the top right corner after the break spot substitute matric contributed with his career his first go for the team to make a friend and finally found the net once again for the home side ten minutes before the whistle to seal the final result before a nail. in the late game so mail it to. the home defeat by

second place says carr moscow that was finished five drinks the limits of his mandate in which clarke said with a hat trick to his name. to the english premier league now where mentors to city have threshed cross-town rivals united six one at old trafford my ability and. each with a double there for the visitors while gerrard added the consolation girl for alex ferguson's men pulled city five points clear of their closest rivals united. came up three one when is against stoke city everton and while picked up all three points out for them in other games back on the winning track as they defeated two girls to one place in chelsea surprisingly lost the league's new boards queens park rangers. and now let's take a look at brazilian football where current champ has a loss to lead to an error by two girls and chance to move third in the table the

visitors opened this scoring eleven minutes into the game. but from a test come oscar midfielder found the net from the power to create strike appeared to be too strong for a few minutes as goalkeeper diego pathetic of and went up in first half injury time to wallace cross after they had a helm at the net post. to finish their miserable night off for the hosts referee. center learned several minutes before the final whistle. over to tennis now where it's a book over has won her first ever career title the kremlin cup that's after beating in the women's singles final here in moscow i think counted turned out to bear three sets it was the stunning player who took the opener rather easily six three but eight seats stormed back in the second as she won it on a tie break. also betting the decider taking a seven five match and that trophy. in

the men's game was good tips or average who claimed the title following a straight sets victory over come true and defending champion. because it troitsky top seed to open it said six four it was a more confident and the second one is only two games there to win the cup. now the north american sport of lacrosse has become an unlikely pastime in russia the exciting game drawing a lot of new followers here this year as conservative but up of now explains. lacrosse is recognized as the oldest north american sport with origins in the fifth century the native americans quick to get to their horrocks even went as far as calling it the little brother off war many amendments have occurred since stand alone to popularity in the past indeed worldwide to flourish. is a team game so it's got that competition thank is in the air so it's now here three dimensions and there's more scope for dinner clever stuff like that you know you've

got to bring your steak when you've got yeah it's like an extension of yourself you know i think parents. and the cons i think it's kind of fun is ok you need a padded up you know you're not going to get hurt really if you see there's no like i got the ball and suddenly like four guys in the land i think it's ok it's funny you know it's amusing like ross has been a surprising revelation for russian audiences despite having few domestic players and just to be clubs one each in moscow and st petersburg this poor state sure is growing and every match between the rivals is a big event at the moment flooring fans are in the majority in the stands. i think in russia it's a it's an upcoming sport it's you know it's a brand new sport and i think you know we have a lot of americans a lot of british people here on the child play with the russians and teach the russians how to play the cross and hopefully integrate it into russian culture is a great game for young people because it's it's of the us but i dynamic you know

it's good to get out there to become fit to get stronger and to make friends to be a team like ross has been a tool in big games in one thousand know for a night in no weight with canada topping the boardroom on both occasions it's also the national summer sport of the country the physically demanding pastime with its full context stands not too dissimilar to the country number one sport ice hockey oh i was looking for team mates to play hockey but got into lacrosse and now i like it not a lot of people here know anything about the game and i like to watch people's amazed. faces when they see my stick and helmets in the streets it has a lot in common with hockey so i mean there's hitting i mean the game itself the strategy involved it's pretty similar to hockey in hockey is popular here so i mean i think you can definitely grow in russia there is still a long way to go for cross before it becomes a well known sport in russian soil but if the enthusiasm of the people really playing it here is anything to go by the signs and it will happen sooner rather

than leave his name out of our chief. and file a very sad news to tell a rider marco simoncelli has died after a crash at the malaysian pay that in surpassing they twenty four year old was hit by two bites at ten eleven after appearing to call it edwards and bullets in a row see the american right also fell but this tape serious injury fellow italian russell was able to return to the pits the race was immediately stopped after the tragedy so in the challenge and i'm not happy roger for two seasons following at a checkered career in the lower classes so yet another charity in the sport. where the medical staff arrived on him he was unconscious on the house because their house arrest them started this c.p.r. . association with joan ask you nearly the medical center the course of the doctor of our stop they can come on local doctors he was intubated it

was possible to wait to take off some blood from the dogs and the c.p.r. was continued to that for forty five minutes unfortunately it was not possible to help him six fifty six we had to declare he was dead. ok up to date now more sports news from roll the globe into. whether his next goodbye. culture is the same as a result i mean i don't like to see any real training weapons of mass mobilization you tube facebook and twitter they are favored tools able to bring segments of society together in the name.

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market why not. come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines to conjure reports. today just news on the week's top stories are not a levy a celebration is us stained by bloody accounts of the death of a played leader integrations imagine he was executed by a lynch mob. so mass protests have erupted this week in greece out the government small stares he cuts to satisfy international lenders this comes as

he does have gathered in brussels trying to stop europe from sinking deeper into recession. and continued tension of the disputed set it may just peacekeepers fail to dismantle barricades erected by said in a standoff. hello and welcome to our weekly review i. believe an interim government has declared the symbolic liberation of the country from the forty two year rule of colonel gadhafi who was gunned down under suspicious circumstances while fleeing the city of sirte on thursday the incident sparked international calls for in this a geisha with allegations the al sublingual leader was lynched by a mob of rebel fighters is a league video portrays a man boasting there he shot gadhafi twice during his count.