tv [untitled] October 24, 2011 6:01pm-6:31pm EDT
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debate prime minister david cameron has said that he respects the views of those supporting his country leaving the union but the timing now is wrong the vote wasn't binding on ministers but the debate was supported by more than sixty members of david cameron's party the biggest internal challenges faced as prime minister and why european leaders are expected to take the final decision on the faltering greek economy i took crunch summit on wednesday the president of the european council one hundred one point is asking for closer fiscal cooperation between the eurozone countries but john gorton a member of the vote in the u.k. out of the u. kodori u.k. organization says british taxpayers do not want to pay greek debts. the fact is one hundred thousand people start a petition that was david cameron's idea in fact there's been almost half a million people have signed petitions it was cameron's idea if enough people signed a petition that debate in parliament that's what's happening today although what has happened is all three political leaders of the three main political parties
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have the fate of the colluded they're telling their m.p.'s which way they have to vote so tonight we've got just still stinging attack on democracy and the whole room the mother of all parliaments where these m.p.'s are not voting with their conscience or with their constituents opinions they're voting away their leaders tell them to because if they don't they'll get the sack there's a disconnect between the political elite in our great country and the people we've got a match three national papers now calling for a referendum every paper today is condemned david cameron for using a three line with us or say he's abused democracy today he'll win tonight you'll win this battle he's going to lose the war people are not happy in this country no one signed up on fifty seven but in the age of fifty four has not a vote on this and certainly my dad when he voted for a common market he didn't vote for the united states of europe that's what british people are upset about the political elite in westminster might try and stop was
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but a very chilly we will get our referendum and we will get out of the let me tell you it's not our problem to sort out the problems in greece and tell me why we should work to the age of seventy two or seventy three to pay for staff ross who lives in downtown athens to retire at fifty we shouldn't we're not going to it's the end this euro's state is collapsing as we speak and far as she came to this party leader and until the european parliament says that the collapse of the whole project is just a matter of time. i want to europe where we cooperate together and work together and sign agreements together not a europe where we hand over the ability to make those decisions to a group of unelected bureaucrats and only argument of peace which now the e.u. supporters of fallen back on because all their other arguments frankly have failed look what kept the peace in europe after nine hundred forty five was not the e.u.
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but didn't come along for many many what kept the peace with the late show an example of state operating together and i would also argue the fact that we had the nuclear deterrent and history shows you that if you take away from people their democracy their ability to govern themselves if you corral them together into new states without their consent half of it leaving to peace the question now in a deep recession and with unemployment at the seventeen year high is not can we afford to leave the e.u. it's can we afford to stay the whole eurozone project is that what it's done far from bringing people closer together it's pushed people further apart not just for soccer being rude to cameron we now have the greeks abusing the germans they now burnie you flags in athens openly with swastikas drawn on them and we have the germans slagging off the greeks as being lazy and useless and the irony of this project is far from us all becoming friends together in this new european house
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actually we're beginning to argue and bicker in the most extraordinary way you can all take twenty seven different countries with twenty one different languages all with their own different histories and different forms of government you cannot take them and force them into one unitary form of government without first getting their approval that approval has never been given and the european project actually is dying as we look at it oh it may take many years just as a soviet union dead but it's dying as we look at it because right across europe the voters are saying we don't want this model we reject it. conservative party member of the westminster parliament patrick murphy says e.u. membership is harming britain sovereignty is full interview is coming your way in about twenty minutes. you're not going to get any any warm words of praise for me about the european union dues damages the united kingdom we are a sovereign nation and sometimes one wonders from sovereignty was to show what i
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owed is that britain in the same way that we very sensibly stayed out of membership of the euro itself i hope that we could send you to be skeptical about off earth revolved around the you. see on later in the program. poor egypt for what leader hosni mubarak is fighting for his life with speculation that a heart attack has left him in a critical condition being denied however by his the. weavers new leaders have ordered an investigation into the death of former leader at mamak gadhafi following mounting international pressure into reports he was niched by a mob of rebel fighters his body has been moved to a secret location for burial after lying on display for days and direct contravention of islamic burial rules and there's also he's an isa now reports his death and aftermath are just
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a few of the shoes raising questions about the nation's new direction including a pledge for shari'a law. these so-called liberation ceremonies haven't quite come to an end where you can hear the fireworks behind me mixed with gunshots as the people still celebrating and already this announcement from last week but obviously all who announced that shari'a law would be the way that libya goes if it follows the path that he sees for it and of course this plays into fears that we've been hearing from analysts way before moammar gadhafi was killed that the country would take a hardline islamist direction and this announcement of course just ensures that that's most likely the way the country is go if most of the members of that end to see do go home head and get elected in these elections that were being promised over the next eight months or so in eight months and so their next step now is of course to do on the population because there are fears that first of all there could be conflict between different trying to cross the country and then within the end to
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see another officials these were the rebels that uganda's fight for freedom in benghazi earlier this year that there will be a power struggle in fact between them and most of those groups are very well armed so that's one of the security challenges that the country is now facing among other things much of the country has been destroyed and there are tremendous challenges let's not forget that war in libya had one of the best living standards on the entire continent some people say that in fact it had the best in terms of life inspect expectancy child mortality rates there were great social benefits through your stuff health care program and so once the dust settles and people start realizing for instance sixty percent of the times are right now doesn't have running water internet has been completely cut off for the last three days during gadhafi who was it was a relatively liberal country and women drive here they have a choice of whether or not to wear headscarves or so and already today my producer on the ground said to me you might want to put something on your head today and of
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course he was joking but that is really a sense of some of the fears here on the ground that things are going to become a launch different and that's going to be very different from the way it was while gadhafi was still in power. and you can keep track of a nice believe in capital via our twitter feed and some of the latest supposed to shoes tweeted pictures of residential areas in tripoli shattered by nato but involvement we're also keen to know your opinion on the situation in libya and on our web site also dot com where asking you do you think is the ultimate reason behind conduct his dad the vast majority believe to dump the dead because he could hop expose dirty dealings and be there by western governments and corporations eleven percent think nato just ran out of money for more aerial strikes and a slightly larger number of people believe could be used to blame for his own death because the hatred many libyans i had for him and others say it was killed because
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many m.t.c. members were his subordinates no one talk to your call and crossed your heart. meanwhile human rights watch has called on the new legal sources to investigate it will they think could have been a mass massacre of gadhafi loyalists and sat there when i was a patient who discovered fifty three bodies many with their hands tied behind their backs and at an abandoned hotel and dozens more scattered across the city but political blogger kohl sharon says the interim government is not in control and cannot manage islamist fighters on the ground. people have way too much faith in the n t c which is quite obviously not in control of the situation on the ground in libya at the moment and in fact you can see the tension between the empty sea command and some of the more islamist led groups on the ground and in fact if you see some of the fighters on the ground they have the characteristics of islamist fighters the long kind of history of from afghanistan on wards so this illusion
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that the entity has full control on the ground is not actually correct and i would say that events that we are seeing them could be personal vendettas could be their normal run of wars but maybe another party in libya could have really presented the evolution of the aspirations just a village just image aspirations for change better day and down there in d.c. that still has a lot of former gadhafi associates and cronies within it so that's really the nub of the problem oh she sources say egypt's former leader hosni mubarak is in a critical condition in hospital some reports suggest mubarak's health took it turn for the where softer he saw news of the death of former libyan leader cannell qaddafi claims denied by his middle east correspondent. official word from the hospital that is looking after the former egyptian president hosni mubarak is that he is suffering from heart problems that there has been an increase in his blood pressure but nothing more serious than that now since august the
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international medical center has both looked off to mubarak and also kept him there as prisoner then official word is that despite rumors he has not been moved into intensive care and i mention rumors because there are certainly a lot of rumors circulating that the privately owned egyptian newspaper here has quoted hospital staff who say that his heart stopped beating for a few seconds this coincided with other remains we've heard that he was clinically did i've been speaking to all sources on the ground in cairo and they say that since late last night there's been a lot of movement in front of the hospital that overheard hospital staff talking amongst themselves that he has been moved into intensive care and that the situation now is very very critical as you can well imagine it's very difficult to determine right now what is the real situation in terms of mubarak's health we we're also hearing reports that it was when he saw pictures on television in terms of what happened to his friend duffy in libya he got such a shock from those pictures that that triggered this latest reaction the former
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egyptian president has been plagued by poor health for many years in june this year his lawyer said that he had stomach cancer and that it was now spreading i spoke to that lawyer a short time ago he now says that mubarak's health is fine but certainly we know that he has high blood pressure there's been reports of hypertension there was a report of a heart attack earlier this year so the state of mubarak's health will continue to be a hot issue for some time to come. still ahead here in the program protesters holding their ground is getting to the top of the please take a cautious stance with reports of new york rests across the u.s. . that's later but now whistle blowing web site. weekly is suspending its publishing operations blaming a blockade by u.s. based financial companies that which has stopped payment from donors cutting up most of its funding its for its found julian assange told
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a press conference in london his organization would now focus on raising cash rather than publication ati's other bennett reports now from london. in order to ensure future survival. was to temporarily suspend all publishing operations in order to direct all. resources into fighting the blockade and raising funds because of this financial blockade in the sun is revealed in that press conference that ninety five percent of their fund raising has dried up since that came into force on the early december stopped funds getting through stop that stop donations and they've been running on cash reserves in just a matter of time really until that ran out and the companies involved are people like visa master card pay pal bank of america and that are all about financial blockade all happened about a week or so after what's being referred to as cable gate when we released all
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those. secret cables from u.s. embassies and the diplomatic service julian assange he's calling this as a u.s. base concerted political attack and it's not from the government though they have actually deemed this to be without any lawful grounds as has the u.n. high commissioner for human rights he says he's condemned the blockade instead science says it's being carried out by politicized u.s. financial companies now they have actually pursued legal action they've opened. action in a number of countries where they have publication deals iceland denmark the u.k. the e.u. us australia as well they've also lodged a complaint with the european commission a decision on that is due in mid november as to whether visa has broken any rules here but until that there's really nothing they can do because they've simply run out of money. president of the national union of journalists in britain national day long says that the ending a week in leaks publishing activities will encourage others to replace. it's
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obviously been a very murky affair because there were other very beginning of the situation questions about. tension members of the u.s. government had suggested or asked companies like amazon which was the first to take action against wiki leaks because they were hosting the size and what they may have been asked by individuals within the u.s. government obviously this is in these acts have been taken outside of any legal process side of any international political agreements yet they seem to have the ability to shut down a website that some governments find troubling. it's very unclear exactly what the motivations what the power behind them and it is it's deeply unsettling it would be a loss to the media and a loss to freedom of speech if it disappeared but i don't think this will be the end of it we did see when the first attempts were made to shut down the mirror sides appeared all over the world because the information simply wants to come out so i'd be hopeful that actually if unfortunately wiki leaks was forced to close
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down that we would see other sides seeking to do the same kind of thing and getting around the restrictions of wiki leaks faced. around one hundred thirty on two wall street accidents have been arrested and chicago for camping out at the city hall after closing time and they've been holding a protest inspired by new york demonstrations against corporate greed and the influence of the rich and the government a movement has existed for over a month now and has spread across five continents back in new york dozens were arrested in a police crackdown that's it is just days ago and they play at just this activist in new york things that movement is just it's the fourth stage the capability of developing into something big. that i haven't ruled is just a beginning it's a staging point to get people involved and active lot of people have ideas and they don't have a place to go with that but if they want to really continue and go to places they've had to go upon different tactics and become much more organized and
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strategic about what they do at this point it's like in its infancy steps and this is a lot of people really angry or frustrated but without a lot of past experience and if you really want to begin to challenge the system on the major issues and fundamental issues that we're talking about ninety nine to one percent that didn't happen overnight there's been a structural inequality that's happened throughout the entire history of known civilization. first check some other top international stories this hour air is in serious central problem homes have reportedly come and artillery and tank fire the pictures you're seeing now from food released by an anti-government group which claims it's evidence of shelling of annihilation alleges cars and houses were targeted around only homes has been the epicenter of violence since the uprising against president assad's regime began in march. tunisia's ones behind islamist party and neither has claimed to have taken the lead after the first
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elections held in arab spring country after they see as reports the parties complained erectus as it appears to have won over six percent of the vote in sunday's paul and i believe is lunch should be the reference point for the country system rules ledgers to respect the rights and democratic rights. the death toll in eastern turkey rises to around three hundred from sunday's massive earthquake many remain trapped under rubble with hundreds missing rescuers were lied late into the night on monday in their desperate attempts to reach survivors and more than ten thousand teens with sniffer dogs have been called in search and rescue and aid efforts in time for the day but over two hundred aftershocks which of the area following the seven point two launched way. i think so i was in kosovo have rejected demands from service president boris tadic to remove roadblocks they have set up on disputed border crossings held five hour
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long talks with local course about seven leaders but failed to persuade them the border crisis began in july after causing one police and customs officers seize two checkpoints with the help of e.u. forces in response to local serbs blocked roads leading to the crossings. the us has been reported after they pose a day of talks between the u.s. and north korea over pyongyang's nuclear program this is the second. direct encounter between the two sides in about three months discussing the possibility of resuming negotiations over pyongyang's nuclear program goes towards world down to hear about what. you're up to date up a back in a few minutes with the headlines but before that our interview with a british conservative party m.p. who wants to take this country out of europe.
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patrick mercer is a member of parliament of the conservative party and a former shadow minister for homeland security's been a frequent commentator on defense and security issues patrick thanks for speaking to r.t. now even very outspoken on the human rights act on how essential is allowing foreign criminals to stay in the u.k. on the grounds of human rights what does that say about britain i think it says a britain has surrendered for too many powers to the european union. is interpret ing the the rules and regulations in the strict strictures of europe in
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a much more proper but in this way in this case on the most of the members of the the loopholes the foreign criminals can exploit to stay in the u.k. is that making britain a target do you think i think if you look at the foreign nations attitudes towards the united kingdom particularly issues like terrorism for instance. london why. italy called in french circles londonistan for the ease with which jihadists etc can live indeed in place in particular in london also in britain i think it's worth also remembering that forty percent of america's external intelligence. are directed at the united kingdom. not because clearly because of the actions of a majesty's government but because of actions of islam west fundamentalists etc inside this kingdom directed at the usa now if we have that if that is the case
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of this is just the way that we are regarded it was seen as being a soft touch for insurgents for four malcontents or ones all other yeah i mean i just that is terribly unhelpful to this country surely that's a concern with the olympics coming up you can argue it two ways of course you can say will the resentment of these people here they don't want to spoil a good thing. all that's right of course is going to be targeted and she's labelled as the little satan on the islamist web sites and all those sorts of charming places i read so much so much of. britain's a target she's been attacked before her soldiers sailors and there are under every day attack in places like afghanistan pakistan. of course we remain a. very high on the terrorist list of priorities so how does the government get out of this situation now and obviously human rights have to be respected but of course where do they draw the line i think it is very important that human rights of course have to be respected and that's one of the reasons why our servicemen and
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women are dying abroad at the moment to make sure that that nations that don't respect human rights or break apart or rephrase that are not nations but causes that don't respect human rights or that we fight against that sort of narrow mindedness human rights are crucially important but there's a difference between the human rights of those who would endeavor to kill british citizens and the human rights of british citizens. what greater human rights as than the right to life he or she who would try to take your life away from you must be dealt with realistically and must be dealt with sensibly we must bear a gate from the front from from the strictures of the human rights act and we must replace it with a bill of rights as the current prime minister promised before the last election is the case of the government being hamstrung by europe or is this too weak to stand up to the. i think things have not been made any simpler by the fact that we don't have a conservative government per se that we have a coalition albeit
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a conservative led coalition but a coalition the liberal democrats of course have set their face against any with the human rights act and therefore individuals like myself who. campaigned on the fact that we would have a british rule a bill of rights i fear are going to be frustrated for some considerable time how damaging are the directives from europe only recently just had another with the ease threatening to sue the u.k. if it doesn't relax is welfare system for migrants well i mean you're a skeptic so i'm afraid you're you're not going to get any any warm words of praise for me about the european union it is damaging to the united kingdom we are a sovereign nation sometimes one wonders what sovereignty we still show was the european laws and strictures are placed upon us we do need to have a referendum on our continued presence inside the side the european union or other or our entire presence or the terms of which we find ourselves now again this was
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part of the conservative modesto before the last election given what's happening in the moment in the euro zone crisis the financial crisis is do you think this is the death knell has his has sounded forceful even the concept of europe well i think the concept of your post for concept of europe is constantly evolving and constantly changing i think that's a healthy thing what i hope is that britain in the same way that we very sensibly stayed out. membership of the euro itself i hope that we could send you to be skeptical about the author of all the. thank you thank you very much.
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a referendum on u.k. membership in bali you need is about to take the final decision on this troubling greek economy at a crunch summit on wednesday the president told the european council of the bond films we can close of this cooperation between state and. believe is new rulers moved down his body to his secret location for burial while promising to introduce sharia islamic norway the faces of the countries in the eagle system that evidence of mass executions of gadhafi supporters to chose the provisional government is not in control of the government on the ground. in the whistle blow we can make suspend publication would be as the organization might constitute in line with fines of up to american based financial institutions refused to process donations by credit card and payment systems the president and founded journalist signage bribes to fight off against the gate. up next we'll take you on a trip to one of the biggest and oldest.
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