tv [untitled] October 25, 2011 1:00pm-1:30pm EDT
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gadhafi may be laid to rest but the controversy surrounding him lives on amid speculation he could have taken a trove of potentially damaging secrets to his. grave. fresh trouble looms for the eurozone as the promised solution to the worsening that crisis becomes modern political bickering and leadership rivalries. the occupy wall street movement ready for yet another round of world wide protests to mark the g twenty summit and calls for governments to crack down on the global casino of currency trading. and the business of the chinese to settle a seventy five million dollar bill for oil deliveries from russia over the next two weeks more of this in twenty minutes. international news and comment live from moscow this is r.t. with twenty four hours a day after five days of being on public display inside
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a meat market for age the slain former libyan leader moammar gadhafi has been buried his body was taken to a secret location in the desert to prevent his grave becoming a shrine for sympathizers or being vandalized and he is in tripoli keeping across the government's. will get out he finally buried out dong this tuesday in secret for witnesses swearing on the koran that they will never reveal the site obviously anxiously afraid that it could become some kind of shrine to the late leader but also i think it's fair to say we'll hear this from analysis throughout the day that with him to the grave when a lot of the secrets of his wheeling and dealing as they call it with the west very close ties with a lot of western countries before they decided that this dictator needed to go down with him being buried today it needs to be pointed out that it was completely not in accordance with islamic law and he was on display for some of those days in a shopping center. after being kept you know walk in refrigerator for days you see
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these pictures coming out of that site people actually wearing masks because obviously the smell despite the fact that he was being refrigerated was getting to the people he's been pretty dress now and the first some of the first announcements that we're hearing in fact so from most of what i was neal that he sees the country moving towards should be along which of course is a very hard by islamic way of leaving the country at the same time just recent elections in tunisia where official results are expected to come in later on tuesday but so far it looks like believing party that will take over most of the positions in parliament will be an islamist party be a not a party so it's really is something that in a way is ironic i think it's fair to say the west very strongly pushing for these so-called democracies to be born and it may not play out the way they actually want to but again huge challenges ahead for libya and most people here are certainly basking in the celebration of the job he says few of them it seems seems
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a really thinking about what that means for the future of libya because of liberation are loud and clear. it looks like a state of euphoria here where everybody is happy and you know. even though there is no formal you know law and order but are they ignoring the price paid for the freedom in libya some thirty thousand civilians are said to have been killed and four thousand still missing this house was one of nato's misses a single family lost five people including children were going to. pull joists or government but no one. who is going to rebuild my house who will compensate for most of what's of the country's infrastructure has been destroyed finding water is now a serious challenge in the capital and supplies and try to correct what they can.
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have a family with six kids. leave to come here it. is very difficult. you go to. the electric station and ben will eat for ten days they haven't fixed the problem at least we can come here for now. but maybe not much longer. before the war libya could boast one of the best living standards on the continent with high life expectancy and go child mortality rates but after months of heavy bombing and fierce fighting the country's social and economic achievements have been brutally reversed its people now betting on a heavily armed and inexperienced group to govern them through a fresh start in the way of destruction ali asked us not to reveal his face during my play for saying this. that if you talk or say anything positive about gadhafi you will have serious problems with the rebels there is no government in speaking
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out on to the end of you he tells me if people were truly happy about the end of gadhafi and the way he was killed there would be millions not thousands on the streets to get their free movies i'm sure some sixty to seventy percent of the country does not approve of the way it's not he was killed we expected them to be tried as a prisoner of war not killed like what we are told in new libya would be justice when he was the head of this country under those margins to see the way he was killed i have no hope for the future but it's just the beginning don't you think that it could get better with time but things will take time to change in the country it's up to you well you've been one of i think there will be a lot of fighting in the future right now and you marlins one is fighting going on between tribes and anyone with a weapon as power who can do what he wants. so many celebrate this new era in libya's history people like me are quietly bracing for the worst. and he's now artsy trickery. and any serious continuing coverage from libya online on her
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personal twitter feed and in one of her latest which he posted limit. libyan kids rummaging through what's left of colonel gadhafi sparks not also you can log onto our website r t dot com to have your say in our poll of the moment and here as you can see on the screen we're asking what's the worst thing post about libya could have in store for the world but so far the vast majority believe more bloodshed is to come because the civil war hasn't finished fifteen percent think get out his family could use the later because he just called for revenge on the west eleven percent said islam its government to make council get their feet in iraq oil contracts almost the same amount we can see that moment believe that war looted weapons may end up in terms of mature r t v dot com. for more on the story i'm joined now by patrick hayes he's a reporter for the online magazine spiked and joining us there in london thanks
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very much indeed patrick for being with us so colonel gadhafi is finally buried but it took the interim government five days to decide what to do with his body does that tell us anything about the unity of the m.t.c. at the moment but i think one of the most striking things from the n.p.c. that we must remember from the start is that this isn't a democratically elected body in fact this isn't really a body that's emerged through a political struggle in the people in libya it's instead it's very much. of cronies former cronies of gadhafi and people who are actively been cherry picked by western leaders to play these roles so that you don't have that much legitimacy in the eyes of the libyan people at the moment and i think that is going to be problematic going forward but. just to interrupt going forward the m.t.c. of course is an interim transitional government leading to elections in about eight months so we will see a democratically elected government and eventually in libya why wait. well i hope so but the problem that we have here is that gita western interference. cameron
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obama says i would say of more moral grandstanding than anything else what you had was then basically stepping in and forming a path for the transitional council to effectively follow so they can oust gadhafi and when you have that situation where western leaders come in and effectively take the democratic initiative from the libyan people then you have actively hinder what is necessarily an organic process for the establishment of leadership and people who actually legitimately represent the libyan people so i think western interference is really saying that this process you know i think it's a positive thing that we will be moving towards elections but i think that could have happened otherwise i think one of the things that's really problematic at the moment is the fact that you now have. the championing the. support of their achievements the eradication of gadhafi which i really don't think you know they
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were never clear on that from the start but and i think it is a sort of interim but if there isn't nato position of indicated by the fact that the n.t.s.c. is now said they don't want nato to leave nato says it's going to leave by the end of the month on october thirty first but the transitional council says no we want you to stay on is that not for a very good reason. well i think it was as i said the transitional council broadly has been cherry picked by nature on the data good after he was captured the prime minister was saying that he was on the phone all the time to the i.c.c. and to various kind of legal cronies as well these are people that effectively departments of the west that have been put in there because they are in a faith say for a preventive because the rest fears you know what might actually happen if the libyan people actually try and take a democratic initiative for themselves and i think that in itself is very problematic should the west be concerned about the fact that the libya's interim
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leader is actually promised a new legal system based on shariah law we've witnessed a historic election in neighboring tunisia of course where an islamic party has actually now claimed victory and we have to shari'a law government is that worrying to the west is not what the west wanted. i think in some ways it kind of plays to some of the anxieties on the west i think it says much more about western leaders theer of islam and the rise of islam in these countries and it's actually just about a political reality in libya libya has a you know historically a very moderate form of islam and i think that you know the kind of the bogeyman of the islamic extremists is very much being used by by western leaders as a way of affectively scare mongering say they can't do it for themselves or if we if we pull out too quickly then you know what we might get is this kind of chaos or we might get some kind of islamic dictatorship and i think that effectively the n.p.c. now has become quite dependent upon western leaders for guidance and i think that's
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really kind of problematic in many ways because again they're not take they're not actually genuinely representing the libyan people and their particular interests they're orientated instead so was the west and their interests always interesting here your point of view patrick is joining us live there from london from the online magazine spight thanks in time thank you. for the high court in london this to hear a case over the use of uranium in hans weapons by u.s. led forces during the infamous iraqi battle of fallujah back in two thousand and five this following a number of reports alleging their use was much more widespread than originally thought was not taught in christopher busby he's the co-author of two such reports on a visiting professor at the school of by a medical studies university of ulster and with thanks very much indeed for joining us before we start i would just like to give a warning that we will be showing some images during this interview but some viewers may find disturbing. before we talk about your latest investigation can you
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just remind us what you found in the first study you carried out. the first study was an epidemiological study and we find extraordinary levels of very high levels of birth defects and. we also find a rate of change in the sex ratio in the ratio of boys to girls which appeared to begin arced in the battle of fallujah in two thousand and four but we didn't look for any of the causes and when you did look for the causes that led you to your next investigation what did you find well in the latest study what we did was we looked in the head of twenty five mothers and twenty five fathers of children with congenital anomalies and what we found was we looked at fifty two elements so we look at all the possible elements in the air and we found high levels of strontium . calcium and i would mean human and various. substances but what we did find was a higher level of uranium and find
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a high level of uranium and that high level of the rain was it from from depleted uranium. well though this was what was surprising it was not from depleted uranium it was actually slightly enriched uranium which was what was fairly astonishing as far as it was not something that we really expected and it led us to believe that the. modern military systems use a whole new set of weapons which contain or produce enrich uranium for various reasons which are not entirely sure about just briefly explain the difference between enriched uranium and depleted uranium just briefly yes yes when when when you're a name is is not mind then it's it's refined in such a way that the one of the isotopes you two three five which is used in nuclear power stations and has some bombs is separated from the rest of your own home and the rest of the uranium which doesn't contain so much new things because it's called depleted uranium and it's a sort of waste product the other the other source is the sort that's used in out and grams and in nuclear power stations and this is the sort that we find in the
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environment of fallujah in the soil in the water and also in the hair of these of these parents of the children concerned anomalies and we believe this is the pores and so increases in the content from normal ease and the other genetic effects that we found in the earliest. question is then where did this rich uranium come from. well we're not entirely sure about but we have some ideas and there have been some suggestions i mean one suggestion is that the people using this weapon have been covering their tracks because there's been a lot of talk about depleted uranium and its effects and it can actually be measured using sophisticated instruments and so if you use so lightly enrich uranium or not for uranium then you probably your facts and then you cannot be sued afterwards when people come along and make measurements that's one possibility we did find patents which showed the existence of a whole new type of uranium weapon not like the ones that used to be used where they just fired projectiles that tanks attack bottles we found patents for direct
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to charge weapons and a new type of explosive which contains uranium powder mixed in with explosives in order to cause a very powerful directed charge and this is this is an anti-personnel weapon which which answers the other question why they would have used such a thing in fallujah because there were no tanks in fallujah so that's one possibility but another possibility is that a new weapon altogether has been about which is a kind of neutron bomb which uses you to remove a hydrogen dissolved in your am and generates neutrons from cold fusion this is really a science fiction possibility but it is a possibility but. it seems to me that both have the same effect really both are is just as damaging as each other and what you're implying here is that they're saying no we didn't use depleted uranium to the question did you use that but in fact that was a way of covering up the fact that they used to enrich uranium. yes i think this is this is a most reasonable suggestion myself and many of the ngos in the world have been
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busily trying to have the depleted uranium weapons banned and of course that that's quite right they should be banned because they cause all these effects but of course then the military say well of course we didn't use treated. and inwardly laughing i guess because they've been using these new weapons which are not antitank weapons which are anti personnel weapons which are thermobaric weapons which caused huge pressure waves and collapsed lungs or char the victim and there's been a lot of very very peculiar injuries being discovered on modern battlefields that doctors have never seen before and quite and can't quite figure out so we do think that there's a new. secret weapon and it does cause these indiscriminate effects on populations which are really quite horrifying and poison the genetic integrity of the whole area where they are used as it possibly travel around the globe also so just make it clear this is illegal use of this substance or can it be used in warfare
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or is this something that you expect to be questioned and people brought to account i do understand is going to be high court in london hearing quite soon i mean what hopes do you have of that after all the compelling evidence you've got will. well i'm fully behind any any sort of course of action so as to bring the people who use this material to justice i think there's been a tremendous cover up of the use of this stuff because the people who are using a perfectly aware that it's a kind of poison gas that has a delayed effect you're not allowed to use poison gas is in modern warfare and all sorts of conventions and it is easy to argue in court that this is a kind of poison gas it has indiscriminate effects these effects are not immediately apparent but they're much more terrifying for that because they echo down the whole generations of the people who have been exposed and these are not people who are competent these are people who are non-confidence who live in the area but also the troops themselves i mean we know that the americans the gulf war veterans have got high level of congenital malformation in their own children but the urine measurements that have been made on them show no depleted uranium so the
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idea that these congenital malformation have been caused by uranium has been discounted and this needs to be revisited i'm sure what you've been telling us about is going to cause quite an impact in the meantime thank you very much indeed christopher busby for joining us live there by medical studies department university of ulster thank you very much indeed. be used heavily in quest to pull the eurozone out of its debt spiral has hit another snag several key meetings aimed at forming a plan i've been counseled in the summit on wednesday heads of state will still meet but there's growing doubt over whether the leaders can overcome their differences michael phelps is the deputy chairman of the german parliament told me a little earlier but he's urging her to get off the financial rollercoaster as soon as possible. first of all we have to see how we are going to south of crete problem it is obvious that creek cannot pay back lawns it starts it all i see it is will be there will be a certain haircut we're talk about maybe sixty percent or even more which is not
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decided finally yet eyes of the default order called the so-called selective default if you're talking about a selective default the banks have to agree because otherwise they don't get money and i see the euro as such is a good currency of the only problem we have is some countries in the euro zone are not really doing well they have by far to hide that but i have a feeling each and everybody has understood that they have to change and they are on the way to change even italy is now changing and they are doing reforms which is necessary in order to have a smaller national debt and as the situation in europe worsens and once political unity of the european union is cracking and the wave of euro skepticism scraping the floor. tell me why we should work to the age of certainty joel seventy three should pay for a star of russian religion downtown athens jury tara fifty we shouldn't we're not
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going to gauge the end. if you catch the full interview with john gaunt says want to share your opinion on it's all available right now at r.t. dot com. the occupy wall street movement is gearing up for another round of global ronnie's this week intended to coincide with the upcoming g. twenty summit these latest protests and to pressuring world leaders to introduce a so-called robin hood tax on what they say is the virtually unregulated global casino financial transactions there's not a great partner report it won't be easy to achieve. six weeks into the occupy movement nearly one thousand armed activists have been arrested in new york city. thrown to the ground beaten netted like flies and pepper spray. the n.y.p.d. says tactics have it harshly criticize yet the most profound and public condemnation recently came from u.s. marine sergeant shamar comics while defending demonstrators in times square.
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the lone man that stood up to dozens of new york cops comes from a family of honor my stepfather he was he would have been a stand in two thousand and sixteen my mother works in iraq the same time sergeant thomas completed two tours in iraq before returning to his homeland where he now aligns unself with the activists he says are being targeted by aggressive authority in uniform have a scene and watch t.v. . take on a person one on one it's always a few of them you know three four five of them or one person these aren't you know protests as much as this is police will tell you hands down that twenty five year
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old war vet says it's come to a point where iraqi activists are treated with more respect and humility then there are american counterparts he recalls an incident when hundreds of iraqis got violent of u.s. soldiers a few people started throwing rocks and everybody kind of started on rocks and we actually had a marine get hit in the face he was on back of the truck but after that you know the people were free to go you know what i mean we've been a rest anybody within go beat up on anybody so to see the police always is the latest on all civilians in our own country was just it was you know us. well i was amazed like i was in shock visiting the protesters he stood proudly to defend sergeant thomas received something of a hero's welcome in zuccotti park so yes you do you really you know we do gestures of appreciation towards the marine that completed combat in baghdad but just began his battle against police brutality here at home but sergeant thomas' public lashing at the end like he had for fourteen we inspired the birth of
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a new group called occupy marine it calls on us that are it's all military branches securing against the wall street protests and with roughly forty thousand soldiers coming back from iraq by the ears and this international grassroots movement may grow even mightier. r.t. here. to some other international headlines this hour twenty four minutes during any past the hour here in the russian capital cousin serbs of dismantled a barricade on the border with serbia peacekeepers to open the crossing to traffic this is the first of eighteen barricades and often cause of it to be removed was handed to nato led forces yesterday because of and have been blocking roads for weeks to stop because of authorities putting customs checkpoints in place. human rights activists claim patients in serious state run hospitals are being tortured in an attempt to quell the opposition it follows reports that at least six people were killed in fresh clashes with government forces in the city of homs china is
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increasing pressure on syria by sending a special envoy into the country to urge president assad to fulfill some of the demands of protests and syria's foreign ministers told r.t. the government plans to carry out reforms within six months. i the country's leadership is not slowing down reforms and the deadline set by the syrian president are very short and in less than six months the country will see these reforms carried out that is why i'm asking if you opposition really cares for the future of this country why it wouldn't begin dialogue as lay out some serious approaches to creating a new syria as for the bloodshed let me ask you whether there's a regime anywhere in the world whose purpose is to kill its own citizens or rather it isn't its direct purpose to protect its own citizens from terrorists when we are confronted with an armed terrorist groups who have nothing to do with record. the syrian foreign minister is exclusive interview with r.t.
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is coming up in the next hour in the program now that it's time for the business update with dimitri stay with us from our life here in moscow. thanks bill they're out of russia's oil pipeline operations transnet says china will settle his seventy five billion dollar bill for oil deliveries from russia within a fortnight the money is owed to russia's top oil company rossini after the pipeline operator transmits in return russia promised to consider the price of existing and new oil contracts with china and the overall as prime minister putin's visit there earlier this month problems between the two countries arose in march when china decided russia was overpricing its well by two to three percent and car payments accord and. speaking of well let's take a look at the current world price the u.t.i. rises to trade at the highest in twelve weeks on signs that demand in the us is
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improving oil has gained more than twenty percent in the past three weeks like this week this hour is up two dollars twenty two cents brant is declining almost a dog. u.s. markets are trading lower after reports showed consumer confidence declined in a terrible messes up moving out of stocks and into treasury bills video rental provided netflix is down thirty five percent and the group of downgrades and following its has a mistake for example. here's a closing picture for europe traders were digesting a string of earnings reports that awaited the outcome of tomorrow's summit of the euro zone leaders prefer uncertain sidelines drugmaker novartis is among the decline as well shares holding four percent and zurich after its earnings missed expectations shares of british world major big p. a rally over five percent in london after you voted for it go to net income tripled and in frankfurt do it your bank ended up point seven five percent after the fourth quarter profit beating on this distance. russia's markets were trading in the red
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on shoes day with the mice. losing one point two percent the odds you're still managing to keep above fifteen hundred points if you look at the may move is so you'll see that will companies were down despite high crude prices lukoil was also down one point two percent saying that it plans to invest one hundred billion dollars over the next decade protest producer lost almost two percent also plans to spend almost six billion dollars to boost production capacity right eighty percent over the next ten years and russia's largest car maker after buzz was up one point eight percent because it's first off their profit more than doubled to two hundred eight million dollars the company also said it plans to buy its rival here's after all by the end of next month. russell british world joint venture c m k e p s posted a record high going until some first three quarters of this year the company's net income group seventy five percent almost seven billion dollars its chief financial
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officer jonathan miller says the results are well try all price and that will remain the case next year. it will be looking for again production growth year on year probably in the one to two percent area we've got some integration of our international assets to do terms of vietnam and venezuela. and we hope to see again a strong environment which will allows them to the next noise on the left and on the next with yours.
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