tv [untitled] October 25, 2011 1:01pm-1:31pm EDT
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will get back to you finally buried adong this tuesday in secret four witnesses swearing on the koran that they will never reveal the site obviously the n.g.c. afraid that it could become some kind of shrine to the late leader but also i think it's fair to say we'll hear this from analysis throughout the day that with him to the grave when a lot of the secrets of his wheeling and dealing as they call it with the west's very close ties with a lot of western countries before they decided that this dictator needed to go down with him being buried today needs to be pointed out that it was completely not in accordance with islamic law and he was on display for some of those days in a shopping center after being kept a no walk in refrigerator for days you see these pictures coming out of that site people actually wearing masks because obviously the smell despite the fact that he was being refrigerated was getting to the people that he's been put to us now and the first some of the first announcements that we're hearing in fact from most.
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that he sees the country moving towards should be a long which of course is a very hardline islamic way of leading the country at the same time just recent elections in tunisia where official results are expected to come in later on tuesday but so far it looks like believing party that will take over most of the positions in parliament will be and is for mr hardee the ennahda party. really is something that in a way is ironic i think it's fair to say the west very strongly pushing for these so-called democracies to be born and it may not play out the way they actually want to but again huge challenges ahead for libya and what people here are certainly basking in the celebration of gadhafi is just a few of them it seems seems a really thinking about what that means for the future of libya because of liberation are loud and clear. looks like a state of euphoria here where everybody is happy. and you don't. even know that
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there is no formal you know law and order but are they ignoring the price paid for freedom in libya some thirty thousand civilians are said to have been killed with four thousand still missing this house was one of nato's misses a single family lost five people including children when. their poll joy is top government but no one toss in who is going to rebuild my house who will compensate honest follows much of the country's infrastructure has been destroyed finding water is now a serious challenge in the capital but i don't have supplies i'm trying to collect what they can. read i'm a family with six kids we know what to do live and to come here every day and get water is very difficult. they bombed the electric station in ben walid for ten days they haven't fixed the problem at least we can come here for now. but
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maybe not much longer. before the war libya could boast one of the best living standards on the continent with high life expectancy and low tide mortality rates but after months of heavy bombing and fierce fighting the country's social and economic achievements have been brutally reversed its people now betting on a heavily armed and inexperienced group to govern them through a fresh start in the wake of destruction ali asked us not to reveal his face fearing my pay for saying this. that if you talk or see anything positive about gadhafi you will have serious problems with the rebels there is no government speaking out to the end of you he tells me if people were truly happy about the end of gadhafi and the way he was killed there would be millions not thousands on the streets to get their free movies i'm sure some sixty to seventy percent of the country does not approve of the way gadhafi was killed we expected him to be tried
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as a prisoner of war not killed like what we are told in new libya there would be justice when he was the head of this country and there was no justice in the way he was killed i have no hope for the future but it's just the beginning don't you think that it could get better with time but things will take time to change in the country. i think there will be a lot of fighting in the future right now and tomorrow and tomorrow there is fighting going on between tribes and anyone with a weapon as power who can do what they want. so many celebrate this new era in libya's history people like me are quietly bracing for the worst. and he's now artsy tipperary. and any serious continuing coverage from libya online on her personal twitter feed and in one of her latest tweets she posted limit. libyan kids rummaging through what's left of colonel gadhafi also you can log onto our website r t don't call me to have your say in our poll at the moment and here as you can
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see on the screen we're asking what's the worst thing post gadhafi libya could have in store for the world but so far the vast majority believe more bloodshed is to come because the civil war hasn't finished fifteen percent think gadhafi family could use the native dictators gold for revenge on the west eleven percent say islam is governments may cancel it daffy contracts almost the same amount we can see that moment believe that war looted weapons may end up in terrorist submit your t.v. dot com. for more on the story i'm joined live now by patrick hayes he's a reporter for online magazine spiked and joining us there in london thanks very much indeed patrick for being with us so colonel gadhafi is finally buried but it took the interim government five days to decide what to do with his body does that tell us anything about the unity of the m.t.c. at the moment where i think one of the most striking things in the n.t. see that we must remember from the start is that this isn't
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a democratically elected body in fact this isn't really of all the that's emerged through a political struggle in all of the people in libya it's instead it's very much. the third generation of cronies former curry needs of gadhafi people who have affectively been cherry picked by western leaders to play these roles so that you don't have that much legitimacy in the eyes of the libyan people at the moment and i think that is going to be problematic going forward but. just to interrupt going forward the end of course is an interim transitional government leading to elections in about eight months so we will see a democratically elected government and eventually in libya way. well i hope so but the problem that we have here is the gee to western interference. of cameron obama for purposes i would say of more moral grandstanding than anything else what you have them basically stepping in and forming a path for the transitional council to effectively follow so they could ask
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a daffy what do you have that situation where western leaders come in and effectively take the democratic initiative from the libyan people then you affectively him what is necessarily an organic process for the establishment of leadership and people who actually legitimately represent the libyan people so i think western influence has really hindered this process you know i think it's a positive thing that we will be moving towards elections but i think that could have happened otherwise i think one of the things that's really problematic at the moment is the fact that you now have cameron obama championing that. as one of their achievements the eradication of gadhafi which i really don't think you know they were never clear on that from the start but and i think the sorts who are up if there isn't nato position now vindicated by the fact that the n.t.s.c. is now said they don't want nato to leave nato says it's going to leave by the end of the month on october the thirty first but the transitional council has said no
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we want you to stay on is that not for a very good reason. well i think it was said the transitional council broadly has been cherry picked by nato on the day that gadhafi was captured the prime minister was saying that he was on the phone all the time to the i.c.c. and to various kind of legal cronies as well these are people that effectively the profits of the west that have been put in there because they are kind of safe safe representatives because the west fears you know what might actually happen if the libyan people actually try and take a democratic initiative for themselves and i think that in itself is very problematic should the west be concerned about the fact that the libya's interim leader is actually promised a new legal system based on shariah law we witnessed a historic election in neighboring tunisia of course where an islamic party has actually now claimed victory and we have to shari'a law the government is that warning to the west is not what the west wanted. i think in some ways it kind of
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plays to some of the anxieties on the west i think it says much more about western leaders fear of islam and the rise of islam in these countries and it actually does about a political reality in libya libya has a you know historically a very moderate form of islam and i think that you know the kind of the bogeyman of the islamic extremists is very much being used by by western leaders as a way of effectively scaremongering saying they they can't do it for themselves or if we if we pull out too quickly then you know what we might get is this kind of chaos or we might get some kind of islamic dictatorship and i think you know effectively the n.t. scene it has become quite dependent upon western leaders for guidance and i think that's really kind of problematic in many ways because again they're not take they're not actually genuinely representing the libyan people and their particular interests they're orientated instead towards the west and their interests are always interesting here your point of view patrick is joining us live from london
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from the online magazine spite thank you time thank you. the high court in london is to hear a case over the use of uranium in hans weapons by u.s. led forces during the infamous iraqi battle of fallujah back in two thousand and five this following a number of reports alleging their use was much more widespread than originally thought let's not talk to christopher busby he's the co-author of two such reports and a visiting professor at the school of by a medical studies university of ulster. for thanks very much indeed for joining us before we start i would just like to give a warning that we will be showing some images during this interview but some viewers may find disturbing. before we talk about your latest investigation can you just remind us what you found in the first study you carried out. the first study was an epidemiological study and we found extraordinarily high levels of cancer very high levels of birth defects and we. find
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a rare change in the sex ratio in the ratio of boys to girls which appeared to begin after the battle to salute in two thousand and four but we didn't look for any of the causes and when you did look for the causes that led you to your next investigation what did you find well in the latest study what we did was we looked in the hair of twenty five mothers and twenty five fathers of children with congenital anomalies and what we found was we looked at fifty two elements so we were all the possible elements that could be in the hair and we found high levels of strontium. calcium and eyelid minium and various. substances but what we did find was a high level of uranium and find a high level of uranium and that high level of uranium was it from from depleted uranium. well no this was what was surprising it was not from depleted uranium it was actually slightly enriched uranium which was fairly astonishing as far as it was not something that we really expected and it led us to believe that the. modern
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military systems use a whole new set of weapons which contain or produce enrich uranium for various reasons which we're not entirely sure about just briefly explain the difference between enriched uranium and depleted uranium just briefly yes yes when when when uranium is is mind then it's refined in such a way that the one of the isotopes you two three five which is used in nuclear power stations and in asm bombs is separated from the rest of the uranium and the rest of the uranium which doesn't contain so much you two three five is called depleted uranium and it's a sort of waste product the other the other source is the sort that's used in atom bombs and in nuclear power stations and this is the sort that we find in the environment of fallujah in the soil in the water and also in the hair of these of these parents of the children in general anomalies and we believe this is the pores of the cancer increases and the congenital anomalies and the other genetic effects
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that we found in the earlier studies question is then where did this rich uranium come from. well we're not entirely sure about that but we have some ideas and there have been some suggestions i mean one suggestion is that the people using this weapon have been covering the tracks because there's been a lot of talk about depleted uranium and its effects and it can actually be measured using sophisticated instruments and so if you use slightly enrich uranium or not for the rain and then you cover your tracks and then you cannot be sued afterwards when people come along and make measurements that's one possibility we did find patents which showed the existence of a whole new type of uranium weapon not like the ones that used to be used where they just fired projectiles at tanks or tank battles we found patents for directed charged weapons a new type of explosive which contains uranium powder mixed in with explosives in order to cause a very powerful directed charge and this is this is an anti-personnel weapon which which answers the other question why they would have used such
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a thing in fallujah because there were no tanks in fallujah so that's one possibility but another possibility is that a new weapon altogether has been developed which is a kind of neutron bomb which uses you tearoom heavy hydrogen dissolved in uranium and generates neutrons from cold fusion this is really a science fiction possibility but it is a possibility but it seems to me that both have the same effect really both are is just as damaging as each other and what you're implying here is that they're saying no we didn't use depleted uranium to the question did you use that but in fact that was a way of covering up the fact that they used enrich uranium. yes i think this is this is a most reasonable suggestion myself and many of the ngos in the world have been busily trying to have depleted uranium and weapons banned and of course that's quite right they should be banned because they cause all these effects but of course then the military say well of course we didn't use depleted uranium and then
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inwardly laughing i guess because they've been using these new weapons which are not anti-tank weapons which are anti personnel weapons which are thermobaric weapons which cause huge pressure waves and collapse and lungs or char the victim and there's been a lot of very very peculiar injuries being discovered on modern battlefields that doctors have never seen before and quite a bit and can't quite figure out so we do think that there's a new new or a new weapon out there it's a secret weapon and we and it does cause these indiscriminate effects on populations which are really quite horrifying and poison the genetic integrity of the whole area where they use doesn't possibly travel around the globe also so just make it clear this is illegal use of this substance or can it be used in warfare or is this something that you expect to be questioned and people brought to account i do understand is going to be high court in london hearing quite soon i mean what hopes do you have of that after all the compelling evidence you've got well. well i'm fully behind any any sort of course of action to bring the people who use this
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material to justice i think there's been a tremendous cover up of the use of this stuff because the people who are using a perfectly aware that it's a kind of poison that has a delayed effect where you're not allowed to use poison gas is in modern warfare and all sorts of conventions and it is easy to argue in court that this is a kind of poison gas that has indiscriminate effects these effects are not immediately apparent but they're much more terrifying for that because they echo down the whole generations of the people who have been exposed and these are not people who are competent these are people who are non-confidence who live in the area but also the troops themselves i mean we know that the americans the gulf war veterans have got a high level of congenital malformation in their own children but the urine measurements that have been made on them show no depleted uranium so the idea that these congenital malformation have been caused by uranium has been discounted and this needs to be revisited and i'm sure what you've been telling us about is going to cause quite an impact in the meantime thank you very much indeed christopher
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busby for joining us live there by medical studies department university of ulster thank you very much indeed. he used to have an inquest to pull the eurozone out of its debt spiral has hit another snag several key meetings aimed at forming a plan have been canceled the summit on wednesday heads of state will still meet but there's growing doubt over whether e.u. leaders can overcome their differences michael fuk says the deputy chairman of the german parliament told me little earlier that he's urging her to get off the financial rollercoaster and soon as possible. first of all we have to see how we are going to solve the creek problem it is obvious that creek cannot pay back lawns it stopped it all i think it will be there will be a certain haircut we'll talk about maybe sixty percent or even more which is not decided finally yet either grace of default already called the so called selective default if you're talking about a selective default the bank have to agree because otherwise it won't get money.
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as such is a good currency if the only problem we have is some countries in the euro zone are not really doing well they have by far to hide that but i have the feeling each and everybody has understood that they have to change and they are on the way to change even italy is now changing and they're doing reforms which is necessary in order to have a smaller national debt and as the situation in europe worsens the wants from the w.t. of the european union is cracking and the wave of euro skepticism sweeping the floor . tell me why we should work to the age of seventy two or seventy three to pay for starve russian their lives in downtown athens jury trial our fifth day we shouldn't we're not going to it's the end. you can catch that full interview with john gaunt is want to share your opinion on it's all available right now at r.t. dot com. the occupy wall street movement is gearing up for another round of global
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ronnie's this week intended to coincide with the upcoming g. twenty summit these latest protests and the pressuring world leaders to introduce a so-called robin hood tax on what they say is the virtually unregulated global casino financial transactions but not a very important report it won't be easy to achieve. you know six weeks into the occupy movement nearly one thousand unarmed activists have been arrested in new york city. thrown to the ground beaten netted like flies and pepper sprayed. the n.y.p.d. east tactics have been harshly criticized yet the most profound and public condemnation recently came from the u.s. marine sergeant shamar thomas while defending demonstrators in times square.
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tonight. the lone man that stood up to dozens of new york cops comes from a family of honor my step father he was he went to ghana stand in two thousand and six see my mother were actually in iraq the same time sergeant thomas completed two tours in iraq before returning to his homeland where he now aligns himself with the activists he says are being targeted by aggressive authority in uniform have a scene and watch t.v. . take on a person one on one it's always a few of them you know three four five of them all one person these are you know protests as much as this is police will tell you hands down the twenty five year old war vet says it's come to a point where iraqi activists are treated with more respect and humility then their american counterparts he recalls an incident when hundreds of iraqis violent with u.s. soldiers a few people started the rocks and everybody kind of started on rocks and we
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actually had a marine get hit in the face he was on back of a truck but at that ad you know the people were free to go you know what i mean we've been a rest anybody we didn't go beat up on anybody so to see the police officers doing this to an all civilians in our own country was just it was you know us. i was amazed like i was in shock visiting the protesters he stood proudly to defend sergeant thomas receives something of a hero's welcome in zuccotti park or so yes. it really you know we've been gestures of appreciation towards the marine that completed combat in baghdad but just began his battle against police brutality here at home sergeant thomas is public lashing of the n.y.p.d. has more formally inspired the birth of a new group called occupy marine it calls on u.s. veterans of all military branches to join the anti wall street protests and with roughly forty thousand soldiers coming back from iraq by the ears and the international grassroots movement may grow even mightier. r.t.
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new york. now to some other international headlines this hour twenty four minutes bring any past the russian capital kosovan serbs have dismantled a barricade on the border with serbia allowing peacekeepers to open the crossing to traffic this is the first of eighteen barricades in north in kosovo to be removed was handed to nato led forces yesterday. have been blocking roads for weeks to stop because of our authorities putting customs checkpoints in place. human rights activists claim patients in syria state run hospitals are being tortured in an attempt to quell the opposition it follows reports that at least six people were killed in fresh clashes with government forces in the city of homs. creasing pressure on syria by sending a special envoy into the country to urge president assad to fulfill some of the demands of protesters and syria's foreign ministers told r.t. the government plans to carry out reforms within six months. the country's leadership is not slowing down reforms and the deadline set by the syrian president
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are very short and in less than six months the country will see these reforms carried out that is why i'm asking that if the opposition really cares for the future of this country why it wouldn't begin dialogue as lay out some serious approaches to creating a new syria as for the bloodshed let me ask you whether there's a regime anywhere in the world whose purpose is to kill its own citizens or rather isn't its direct purpose to protect its own citizens from terrorists when we are confronted with an armed terrorist groups who have nothing to do with record. the syrian foreign minister is exclusive interview with r.t. is coming up in the next hour in the program now though it's time for the business update with dmitri stay with us for that live here in moscow. thanks bill they're out of russia's oil pipeline operations transnet says china
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will settle his seventy five million dollar bill for oil delivery from russia within a fortnight the money is owed to russia's top oil company ross and after the pipeline operator transnet in russia promised to consider the price of existing and new oil contracts with china and the overall as prime minister putin's visit there earlier this month problems between the two countries arose in march when china decided russia was over pricing its oil by two to three percent and cut payments accordingly. speaking of well let's take a look at the current oil price w t i rise is the trade at the highest in twelve weeks on signs that demand in the us is improving oil has gained more than twenty percent in the past three weeks like this week this hour is up two dollars twenty two cents brant is declining almost a dollar. u.s. markets are trading lower after reports showed consumer confidence declined in the toba message moving out of stocks and into treasury bills video rental provided
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netflix is down thirty five percent amid broken downgrades and following its pessimistic for example. here's a closing picture for europe traders were digesting a string of earnings reports and awaited the outcome of tomorrow's summit of the euro zone leaders preferring set on the sidelines drugmaker novartis is among the decline as was shares for them four percent and zurich after its earnings missed expectations shares of british oil major and big p. a rally over five percent in london after a reported first go to net income nearly tripled and in frankfurt deutsche bank ended up point seven five percent for the quarter but the profit beats it down this is. russia's markets were trading in the red on shoes day with my. six losing one point four percent the odds are you're still managing to keep above fifteen hundred points if you look at the main movers so you'll see that will companies were down despite high crude prices lukoil was also down one point two
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percent saying that it plans to invest one hundred billion dollars over the next decade protest producer lost almost two percent also plans to spend almost six billion dollars to boost production capacity by eighty percent over the next ten years and russia's largest car maker up to val's was up one point eight percent of the close this first half never offered more than doubled to two hundred eight million dollars the company also said it plans to buy its rival after by the end of next month. russell british oil joint venture t n k d p has posted record high financials for the first three quarters of this year the company's net income group seventy five percent almost seven billion dollars its chief financial officer jonathan miller says the results the world by all price and that will remain the case next year. you will be looking for a game production growth year on year probably in the one to two percent area we've got some integration of our international assets to do terms of vietnam and
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attention. and leadership rivalries. the occupy wall street movement ready for yet another round of world wide protests to mark the g twenty summit and calls for governments to crack down on the global casino currency trading. with more on those stories in less than half an hour from now in the meantime we take a trip to one of the biggest and oldest urban hubs in siberia it's the city of almost our extended report is next on r.t. . around a three hour flight from moscow home to more than a million people and it's one of siberia's oldest and most important cities. founded in seventeen sixteen has been transformed from a frontier outpost to a bustling administrative center trying.
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