as for. the lead up to. the a nobody seems to know. the face but heard the argument that they're being overly dramatic.

guys it's time for show and tell on night's program last week he spoke to gene healy about the u.s. intervention in uganda it was announced last week we asked if sending it we should be sending troops into the country let's go to producer richardson essentially to find out what she's going to say. the u.s. is currently fighting five wars for national security interests two official wars in iraq and afghanistan and three shadow wars in pakistan yemen and somalia and in the last year we've extended our military for so-called humanitarian efforts in libya and now uganda the u.s. has stated that it will be sending one hundred troops see gondor to stop the lord's resistance army from continuing to kill innocent civilians so what the u.s.

currently involved in at least five conflicts are national security reasons and one for state of humanitarian purposes are we stretching ourselves too thin should the u.s. be sending troops gonda told him if he said no we must bring all troops home and stop policing the world now irene political on youtube things we should stop sending troops anywhere we are apparently the barbarians of the world who fix everything with force walker said allowing mass murder is wrong but he is angry that americans only seem to intervene when there is oil or other tangible interests at stake rather boom rock said the u.s. needs to stay out of uganda is business good they want the oil that's there anything to keep it from going to try and is their mantra now many of our viewers who wrote in think the u.s. is motivated by oil i think there are many factors here to look at such as why after so many years has the us decided to intervene now is the lord's resistance army responsible for the deaths of so many civilians gets should the u.s.

military be going into you gone there to try and stop them well that's a different story altogether. well as always we appreciate your responses and here's our next question for you at home early in the show we discussed rick perry's new economic plan to give people an option to pay a flat tax rate of twenty percent and you heard my two cents but let us know what you think if flat tax is a good idea for us you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and those responses just let me. now it comes to being open and honest with the public google might not be the first company that comes to mind the internet search giant has been known for invading privacy and crossing that creepy line through various programs things like google street view google plus you know who features on g. mail but it looks like the search tonight is making attempts at being more open through its unique transparency tool now it's tool isn't and necessarily anything new it does offer a chance for the public to see how often do we get served by governments with

requests for information and so here's an on shocker if a lot for example the number of u.s. government requests for data on google users who might be involved in a criminal investigation has gone up twenty nine percent in the past six months now from beginning of january to the end of june this year government agencies sent five thousand nine hundred fifty requests which averages out to about thirty one per day so yeah i would still say that's a lot and that means that governments are increasingly turning to a person's internet profile be it social media our e-mail to dig up all the dirt they want and they're looking for google's help because let's not forget they have a scary amount of your personal information now google openly admits it has complied in some way with ninety three percent of those government requests which can vary from subpoenas to court orders but there is a little bit of silver lining here and google's transparency report the company now includes the number of users and accounts affected by those government requests however it doesn't break down the requests by tight but still this is a milestone for the corporation google and is alone in providing that kind of data

to the public and according to the company itself the goal of providing that type of transparency is to encourage. efforts to reform the twenty year old electronic communications privacy act that's a law that currently allows law enforcement to obtain users' online information without a judge's approval so these are former efforts are shared by amazon a.o.l. a.t.m. t. and facebook also part of a group called the due process coalition over none of those companies have you have provided data on hopped in the government seeks information about you so while the government is increasingly seeking out personal information from internet companies it is a step in the right direction that google's making efforts to be honest about its cooperation but google still can't release any information on all other sorts of requests that it received from the government from five of lawrence to national security letters we're talking be issued by the f.b.i. in drug and terrorism cases and come with gag orders attached so the truth is americans are a long way away from knowing just how much google truly works with the government to hand over their private info. now guess what the obama administration which

promised to be the most open and transparent is up to now i propose her vision to the freedom of information act rules that would allow federal agencies to simply lie to citizens and reporters that are seeking certain records by telling them that they don't exist even if they do now these rules were originally made public in march but after a lot of transparency and civil rights groups raised objections they open up comment missions and september and the comments definitely came in they feel you along with citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington and open to government orders all wrote a letter to the a g o j saying this move will dramatically undermine government integrity by allowing a law designed to provide a public access to government information to be twisted to permit federal law enforcement agencies to actively lie to the american people so what are the chances that the objections can actually get this thing stopped and what does this say about the obama administration so far a very poor record of living up to their promise of transparency joining me to

discuss this is aaron schwartz founder and director of demand progress dot org and i want to thank you so much for coming on tonight it's been a while since we've we've had you on the show and before we get into what the new rule is can you talk about you know it's not like the government already has to hand over everything that you ask for when it comes to the freedom of information act they still have a lot of ways to say no what's already in place. so that's right there's an enormous number of exemptions and exceptions to the freedom of information act it's not a law that just totally turns everything over a look ever been to the public so for example the government is allowed to withhold things that mightn't to injure a corporation they're allowed to withhold things that they'd invade people's personal privacy which they brought in turkey to mean they can withhold things that they were saying about government workers or government officials and they're allowed to withhold things that they. impede a criminal investigation or an international security so these are sort of big broad categories which the government has already been using to turn down laws that

freedom of information act requests i know they also have another response where they basically you know can tell you that they can neither confirm nor deny whether the document exists i think about called the global response rate and that's something that is just really very we can't confirm or deny whether we have this but now they want to just cut out all of the vagary there and basically just lie to your face i can understand what possible legal rationale they're using for trying to push this through and you know what's behind it. that's exactly right the globe or case was a case where the courts ruled that certain extreme cases of national security instead of confirming that they had certain documents which great give away information they could say they could neither confirm nor deny those documents now that they're changing it to which is just insane but changing it to outright lying and saying that they don't have any documents even when they know that if you can think of any possible justification nobody's pointed to a single case where somebody has been put in danger because the government didn't

lie it's completely absurd i mean do you think they might just trying to be discouraging lawsuits here right because sometimes you can sue if they deny or foia request at this point if they lie to you tell you that it is exist i guess people aren't going to follow up and try to take you to court. yeah that's exactly right so at the moment if they give you this sort of global response you can take that record and review their decision but their theory is if they just lie to you and say we don't have any documents you would think of challenging them to find out the truth and so it's a way for government agencies to avoid having to comply with the law ok so are you with outraged about this as i am of the a.c.l.u. as crew is open the government dot org is i mean i actually think that it's ludicrous yeah i think it's completely outrageous i mean as you just showed the government is taking more and more documents about us getting them from sites like google and facebook and they want to disclose a less and less to the public you know it's completely absurd it's actually illegal

to lie to a government agent and yet the government wants to make it legal to light all of us if the ridiculous really let's talk about the obama administration today and i think you and i have talked about so again about this before but here's an administration that came in promising to be the most open and the most transparent in history at this point do you think that they get a failing grade i mean let's not forget this is also the president that actually received a transparency award but in a very private ceremony and leave it open to the press. yes i mean this is just another in a lot of incredibly transparent moves from the obama administration from cracking down on whistleblowers to withholding documents to as you mentioned not even accepting their transparency award in public it's completely ridiculous and it's been one of the most transparency in the stray sions we've seen which is saying something considering the legacy from the bush administration now if we really look at the freedom of information act this isn't an incredibly important act and this

is really something and really credibly important that we get to take advantage of as journalists as american citizens to try to get information out there can you think of some things that the you think the you know where the most important revelations are very prominent revelations that really came out of the fact that we have a freedom of information act. yeah i mean there's been so many but just as a few examples a lot of the revelations about bush's program came out because of freedom of information act requests but the moment i personally am filing a freedom of information or request to find out more information about something which i think was reported right on your show which is the government's use of special software to a dark secret persona hence to post on the internet forums as multiple people and in fact you know i use the phone information act requests to find out that the f.b.i. had staked out my parents' house i mean there's so many fascinating things we find out about what our government is doing to us because of this crucial tool and it would be outrageous to try and keep it away like that do you think that it's not

all that aware that you know as we just heard the story about google having this through all that at least shows us how many times the government goes through and requests for people's personal private information but google's also known for having a very cozy relationship with the government so are they trying to play both teams here and you know sit on the fence a little. i think what we're seeing is google pushing a little bit in the direction of more openness because of all of the criticism and the pressure than for seized what we'd really like is for google not just to give us a number each year of how many requests he received but actually tell us the details of those requests and inform people about the data before they turn it over to the government but we twitter but you know i think it's and that's why it's important to keep public pressure and that's why i'm in progress or have some petitions urging corporations to be a little bit more open and transparent are aaron really quickly so you know it's been a while since we've had you on the show can you give us any updates as to your story and what's going on right now. ok careful talking about rate case but i can

say that if you go to ben progress that or there's an urgent thing happening tomorrow which everybody should know about where the government is introducing a new even more extreme bill to try and blacklist certain websites off the internet as a craze take action all right thank you so much karen. thanks for having me back. ok guys it's our last break of the evening but you know i want to bring out our told time whether snipings that there is another war on another holiday being waged in our children thank you no i'm talking about happy hour tonight herman cain's new campaign that is literally an air force wants to know that what they do isn't science fiction that for when it kind of get. into it only a. little. i have

a right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize the bar much as the charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story. you think you understand it and then. some other part of it and realized everything. is a big. mystery

. the police to look into. what is protesting nobody seems to know. that never persuade the face but part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic.

are you guys have time for tonight tool time award and try to go to our favorite morning show to love to hate fox and friends to gretchen stephen brian well really know how to take a shall we say unique approach to truly hard hitting topics and yesterday was absolutely no exception to that is some schools across the country are banning students from wearing their hollowing costumes to school and so course fox and friends are not ok with that but they're not just not ok with it you know their style they say that it's all out war. all right so apparently they called us we don't have the clip for you unfortunately but i can tell you when they said it is an all out assault on fallujah the common sense is blown out the window and the name of the all powerful political correctness now i think that in order to call the proper amount of attention to that serious attack they also called in a guest to reinforce their point of view and they gave the few contacts to the

horrible affront to the rights of children basically saying that well you know what if kids really want a costume even if they can't afford a costume who cares about the immigrants the look they can do is they can go to our thing crass classes this is an art school anyway but can you think about that you guys i mean really kids of arts and crafts costumes and sure they're going to feel really really awesome about themselves so you know how cruel kids are these days but let's go back to talking about gretchen and i'm just not going to explaining this all to you are cliff aren't working right now but you know how gretchen is she was really moved by this because she decided to tell viewers how truly hurt she was by the fact that there was a war on holiday week because she was upset that her child would be able to wear a costume he was upset that her poor child wouldn't be able to take part in the same american tradition that she got to grow up in but you know i'm really not all that sorry for her four children because something tells me a bigot to wear designer hollowing costumes and not the arts and crafts tonight and you know what i think that kind of makes sense right the gretchen is so passionate

about this assault after all she has been on the front lines of fighting anybody who dares attack one of america's holidays i think you all probably remember we showed you many times here on this show fox news which is the fox and friends host a good hard hitting question during their g.o.p. presidential debate and gretchen decided to make her question for the candidates one this new very near and dear to her heart of all things there if you think about it all things that gretchen could actually asked a presidential candidate at a debate she decided to ask them about the war on christmas and how they feel about the war on christmas. i mean forget about immigration poverty unemployment snow gregson it wanted to know about political correctness and the war and christmas and now apparently in her world that's a really important issue of course we also can't forget the fact that fox and friends is really upset about the war started on easter president obama issued a statement for ramadan addressing the muslim world as obama extended a hand of the muslim community gretchen and company could not believe they can

easter was overlooked i mean they were absolutely outraged i think we actually have this one so take a look and some people said that they might have an issue with the fact that he didn't issue a proclamation for easter so some people are saying is this an outreach to the muslim world and why isn't there an outreach to the christian world historically does have the white house speech grew old but they didn't issue a official proclamation like he did for ramadan just you know. all right i got one clip in there but come on people have in america learned its lesson yet you don't mess around with us holidays or else you'll be called out on fox and friends but seriously i just wonder don't these people have anything more present to talk about during their morning shows from the looks of it all you're trying to fake wars against holidays is the best they can come up with these days so if without fox and friends received the night's full time war.

our guys it's time for happy hour joining me tonight is our producer jenny churchill and tanya sama native reporter and blogger for think progress dot org thanks for joining me guys thanks for and i think we actually have our clips for this one of those tough talking through the clips is always interesting these protests and like i'm boxen friends and gretchen and steve doocy and brian kilmeade but if we have to play it by big it's all going to go well let's take a look at herman cain's new ad that was released last night i think it's kind of hilarious but everyone is absolutely going crazy over it today in the media so let's take a look for a second. nobody's ever seen but the america's never seen a candidate like mccain we need to get involved because together we can do this we can take this country.

i first started i just feel like this comes from somewhere in the one nine hundred eighty s. with like the really cheesy song and herman cain just. this is low production stuff right this isn't like people read the flashy campaign ads that we've seen from rick santorum from tim pawlenty you know from ron paul but the media today you know i mean you have to laugh about that right it's kind of funny but i feel like some of the. actually tried to take it seriously and couldn't believe that the guy was smoking i definitely saw a christian ad seen on m.s.m. b.c.'s i really smoking a cigarette really who cares i think there's a lot of people in america that actually smoke cigarettes then i actually think it's because cool diseases like real americans i like herman cain and i just might play to his base it's not fucking went out excuse me it's not crazy to smoke a cigarette. yeah no i mean i completely agree with you and i think about was the whole point was that he's kind of bucking what everyone else is doing they've got these flashy movie ask ads and his looks like it was shot outside the cosco. yeah

yeah but i mean nothing says america's future ally you know chain smoking a hamburger moustache so really he's speaking of the core. ok that's not the future america wanted i still think that it probably makes sense for a lot of americans who they like. ok speaking of ads let's take a look at an ad from the air force and we'll play a pretty impersonal kind of break it down as to why it's so funny because the whole tagline here is not science fiction so pay attention for some things that might look kind of like science fiction.

so spencer ackerman over wire danger did a pretty good job of breaking this down that eggs is like ok you know people are in trouble air force comes in to help them we're all cool but then you have the engines that rotate and for a vertical position which is impossible to happen then you have this gigantic plane which is one hundred seventy four feet long and can weigh up to five hundred eighty five thousand play pounds land on a bridge that's crying and falling apart and yet they're still able to land on it and nothing happens and then it just completely turns into a different plane altogether it becomes transformer play actually if you transformers got a government contract maybe that's what happened here not that we all want to know what actually happened but it's a little ironic that they're calling it not science fiction and then they just do it now that's completely unrealistic i mean we see it all the time least on college humor i mean i cannot imagine a world in which and it was all some to see the prosperous and be like well no yes

none of those things could happen but that's not the point of the ad well if that's one of the ads why does it actually say that in the at. this statement not actually meant to be true yes that's very it was a little last for the part that nobody would notice because apparently he then contacted the air force they're like well the whole thing is supposed to be the focus on actually helping civilians in times of need right which they actually do you do that like just forget about the whole fact that we just splashed it in as madly transforms into a can elian paint job focus on that i think what happened was actually. the budget to make this to make herman cain's ad movie ask was actually just shifted to the air force budget so they had to go. ok so speaking of the. air force let's talk about military recruiters for a second here because we know that i don't know about you guys but i went to u.c. santa cruz and this is always a huge deal every time that we had a jobs fair on campus it's

a pretty liberal campus we want to protest any time there's a jobs fair we have military recruiters there there was always massive protests and i think we actually have a clip to show you real quick i. think it was probably while i was still at school there are so portland is actually allowing high schools now or they're considering allowing them to have anti-war protesters right alongside the military recruiters actually taught kids out of signing up for the military what do you think about that i mean i think it's always good when you can get multiple perspectives on something and i'm a little torn because i was always super weirded out by the military recruiters in high school because they would call me at home and try to get me to go into the military which we're going out my mind at the same time it is a good option for a lot of americans so i'm torn but i do think it's going to be honest about it show you air corps commercials like tell you you're going to ride magical planes they

transform into other magical planes so i think this is interesting because these are high school kids you know their attention span is that of a gnat you know you have a flashy ball it's on one table and then the flyers on pirates on another it's portland let's be serious so you know who's going to win and i think i think the military recruiters still have an advantage on that. really quickly reduce you to a very interesting development it's being debated right now take a look. but there is a federal health board meeting this week to talk about testing of the anthrax vaccine on children that was already been tested on millions of adults and it's considered so you could side as you're still unsure i'll say for a fact it would be for a child. so there's something they're debating right now because then you know they can give it to children and they'll be prepared if there's ever an anthrax attack but i just feel like it's anthrax really big issue anymore i feel like that was so two thousand and one that we haven't really heard of like anthrax attacks and. this

is how likely is it exists really like the most important thing you know to be making vaccines are you know well it's not that they wouldn't be making new vaccines it's actually testing the original vaccines on children i don't know i mean i think that they need a good point would you rather as test them now or wait until there's an actual attack and then just give it to thousands of kids. i know in point michele bachmann is not going to like that right now we can be sure that olds have all been too partisan so i think one thing we do know about this issue can't wait but up and our guys are out of course we're out of time and thank you so much for joining me that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in make sure he's back tomorrow representative keith ellison is going to be on the program to discuss occupy wall street i mean signed up to get to be a fan of the lower show on facebook and follow us on twitter you missed any night or any other night you can always catch the you tube dot com slash the low shelf next season.

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