the purpose of the american jobs act is simply. to put more people back to work. simple solutions same like a great idea but will they work to tackle the big complex problems of politicians on all sides often is that we look toward the future of america's economy what are the real unemployment numbers out there will uncover the ugly truth u.s. lawmakers seem to be ignoring. you could call them the new oakland raiders police in riot gear tearing through the peaceful occupy oakland camp ripping down their tents and arresting doesn't take you to the latest battlefield in the war between this countries and leave the protests. at the end of the day losing lots of people here all told to the cult we told them by myself to sleep in a way don't usually call the occupy wall street protesters may not have five star accommodations sure you have five star food all thanks to this man the unemployed

chef feeding the movement for free. and it's the sound of liberation as millions celebrate in a post gadhafi libya but with infrastructure destroyed and thousands dead are the people forgetting about the road they took to get to this point and choosing to ignore the road ahead. good evening it's tuesday october twenty fifth seven pm in washington d.c. i'm christine you're watching our team. the top story this evening the economy for many a snapshot of rising unemployment and standards of living that continue to fall really with no end in sight this is a few reasons thousands of americans across the country have joined the occupy wall

street movement frustration and anger say many have reached their boiling points here in washington the occupy d.c. protest has doubled in size as more and more people say they want not only to protest but to make their voices heard by the white house and those on capitol hill they say it's important to stand their ground here because this is after all or so many important decisions are made it is also here where lawmakers and the president all seem to be touting new plans that promise to fix these problems but more and more of those hurt say leaders in this country are too out of touch with how bad this crisis actually is to bring forth real change are to correspondent marine important iowa takes a look. these are good years for our country but we are america we are talking of the times we live in the u.s. great recession began as a real estate crisis in two thousand and seven the day it expanded into

a national job emergency impossible to ignore the purpose of the american jobs act is simple. to put more people back to work according to the u.s. government nine point one percent of americans are unemployed yet experts say deceptive measures and statistical shenanigans are being used to mask a jobless epidemic that's far worse so you not count our time workers who are also on war and they also don't count wrong term unemployed people it will been unemployed for over six months back in time those people would have been considered unemployed but the government constantly changes the definition of who's unemployed and they do that so that the unemployment number looks no or then or otherwise wouldn't then when part time workers and the unemployed who have given up hope are factored in the real u.s. unemployment rate increases to more than sixteen percent and more telling but often

ignored statistic because they were included and you know the government would have to acknowledge that they truly have a major crisis on and on and. you know this is part of the problem and will campaign it allows them to continue the status our society starts clearly very broken down and in ruins the city of detroit is feeling the full force of america's economic decline one in three residents live below the poverty line half of the city's public schools are closing and crime is skyrocketing the capital of the country's motor industry now has an official unemployment rate of just under thirty percent but city officials and residents legs in obio jeffries say the real figure is close to fifty how do you describe it it is. i think it's. indicative of what's going on in the rest of the country and they're just now feeling it to heal america's economic suffering experts say u.s.

leaders need to abandon exaggerated optimism for the ugly truth unemployment is going to continue to get higher inflation is going to get higher and rather than trying to. i that the situation isn't as bad as it is we need to accept i'll bet it is our biggest then we have a better chance of recognizing that the mistakes that were making us president barack obama has proposed a four hundred forty seven billion dollars plan called for substitute america's workforce but just like any life saving procedure recovery can only begin to take place when the condition is fully understood or in up or down artsy new york and it is campaign season here in washington and you keep hearing from so many of those fighting to stay in office a familiar message jobs and the economy are the number one issue in twenty twelve so why don't the disconnect between those who can help and those who need the help

why so much talk and so little action earlier i posed that question to know me prince author of this book right here black tuesday here's what she had to say. well first of all it's always campaign season and that's one of the reasons why we always hear so much and see so little getting done and there is a realisation because there can't not be any that we have a jobs problem but as you know we've been looking at the stats here running into this segment and people know when their day to day lives and see in cities and in the outskirts of cities throughout the country the job situation is a lot worse than any politician says and you've got one situation on the one hand you have obama who knows it's bad but is campaigning so wants to pretend that he can do something to make it better soon you have the republicans who are basically saying there's no way that's going to happen but we're going to be the ones who are going to fix it soon none of them are really citing those very dire statistics and therefore know the or accept that there is a problem bigger than they can handle or are handling it hence that disconnect

continues but the president says he wants to handle this of course the american jobs act the president and his team traveling the country trying to sell this to the american people regardless he's certainly not selling it to congress i mean do you think with this is one of those things where the amount of what is proposed the republican house says no way or is the president's plan fundamentally flawed. you know i think it's a bit of both as the planet self has a significant proportion that just basically extends unemployment benefits which are necessary because we have a real problem with people who want to find jobs and can't find jobs because they don't exist because for every job that even does get created there are four people minimally in line to apply for that job there's just the inability to attain that work and so there's an unemployment benefits component to that bill which needs to be extended the other component that bill really doesn't have a lot of power in it to create many jobs in the problem is that individuals who

hear obama speak on either side of the aisle whether they supported him or don't like him just don't see those changes happening in fact we are continuing to hemorrhage jobs we have you know since december two thousand and seven when this recession began we've lost eleven million jobs we have nineteen percent of individuals who are part time employed and not able to basically make ends meet we have a youth unemployment rate close to twenty twenty to twenty five percent of pending on the area in the demographic we have a significant problem and i don't think anyone expects or excess that obama can really change that on the other hand the republicans won't let anything through and that's an issue as well nor are they really proposing a better way of encouraging job creation here they're kind of going through the same tired rhetoric that if you cut taxes on corporations somehow magically there are going to be all these millions of new jobs created when in fact a quick ratios are sitting on money and not creating those jobs anyway or they're

off shoring or outsourcing those jobs anyway and they're not paying any taxes already and not creating those jobs so so both sides have a real problem here and we talk about the difference in we can numbers that we see often and the real numbers i want to throw something up here for people look for those without a job the average length of unemployment is twenty two weeks according to the bureau of labor statistics i should. mentioned that for workers over fifty five that number is almost double that forty three weeks we talk to me about this i mean what do you see as some of the long term effects of having so many people especially in the last ten years really being able to work from age fifty five to sixty five being out of work well there's two reasons that's going to continue to be really devastating number one is those people have counted on the fact that they would have the job and therefore the ability to create more of a retirement nest for themselves you know there's all this fear of social security potentially going away or even though it's stable now might in the future so

there's that fear that they are going like i talk across the country and many people that age are come up and you know really concerned that there is going to be a dramatic down grade to get if it's even expected to find if you add into that the fact that they're not. making money in the meantime to pay their regular living costs right now and not able to save anything for the future and that becomes an even deeper concern so the fact that this this period of how long people have remained unemployed is not just large historically it's also continuing to grow because of the other fact that jobs are being created that's only going to continue to accelerate and exacerbate the problem again people coming in who can't find jobs and they are basically living at home with parents who are potentially looking at losing their own jobs and there's an incurred cost of having that additional family member at home when that wasn't anticipated and that's

a further drain on families across the country you know me sadly we're out of time next time i get john i want to talk more about your book black tuesday certainly came out at a perfect time considering what we're seeing with occupy wall street and the ninety nine percenters thanks so much for joining us. well settling economy is what many of these protests we're seeing across the country are all about one of those protests in oakland california where very early this morning protesters got a rude awakening i police. check this out least in my home it's just tearing through the camp where occupy all oakland protesters have been saying for two weeks and all about eighty five people were arrested one frustrated protester was overheard saying quote the cops are the ninety nine percent but they're doing the work of one percent when all the sudden done the camp was ripped apart with tents stomped on and broken trash everywhere protesters who tried to move to other locations immediately following this were

also met by officers and told them i believe now one man who witnessed this independent journalist josh schwartz from the looks of the video this morning said things were pretty intense in oakland so when i spoke to him earlier i asked him just to give me an idea of the sights and the sounds on the ground here's his head . was definitely very intense i got there probably about four or four fifteen just in time to see the beginning of the tear gas being fired so we soon as they got around i saw this cloud of tear gas and one of the interesting things was it was at that point you saw that put their masks on so many of the officers were dealing with the tear gas as well and from that moment on it was just basically dormant people stomping on all the tents destroying everything throwing it out and then escorting dozens and dozens of protesters who were many would walking up to the sound of the police outside their tents what sparked this tear gas i mean were some

of the protesters being violent or are they throwing things at police officers why did they break out this tear gas. i mean my understanding was that people were just they're still in the camps and this prompted them to fired tear gas but they said i got there when the tear gas happened but i didn't see anything resembling any kind of resistance immediately preceding the tear gas or at any point afterwards just standing their ground there on of course police brutality not unique to oakland but i'm wondering why you think this is becoming so common we've seen it in new york chicago denver and now here in oakland i mean i think that any time that people demonstrate that they have power be authorities is the city government is fearful of that i mean we live in a democracy supposedly but when the people come together in rallies and demonstrations we always are frequently see that met with a very strong arm of the law and this is no exception this was

a case where people where the hell is ground two weeks spreading all across the country and suddenly people are seeing government or seeing it as a threat and government is stepping in to shut it down although i will say you know in many cases and these pictures that we've shown that so many other media outlets have shown of the police brutality using their police batons using tear gas many times this is how the effect of helping this movement gain support do you see that happening coming up ahead and i want. i think that's highly likely i know that after the police came in in san francisco stopping people tearing down their tarps the video of those people being attacked video of the people being pushed to the ground by the police very quickly resulted in hearings with the police where the new police chief great service san francisco set up and said that they were no longer going to continue their policy of not allowing tarps not allowing tents and

now we're seeing art as a flourish with more than forty tents in just a moment plaza which is one of the main squares in the financial district what give us a take give us a sort of inside what about oakland at self certainly it seems to me open is one of those cities where the police time and time again in so many different stories not just the occupy movement. to be a little more rough one more aggressive than police around the country or any speculation on my you think that might be. i mean the issue of the police relating to the community in his strained relationships that we've seen stretch back very far. we had an all white police force you know when until a couple of decades ago maybe three decades ago which wrong a mostly black community most of the officers in oakland don't live anywhere near the city so they don't relate to the people as if they're their neighbors they really to govern as if this is some outside city that they are they're trying to

keep the people that are committing crimes or whatnot. from overtaking the city is oftentimes the perspective here when talking to police and so there really isn't that dealing the community between the police and the residents it really does feel like a different kind of occupation it releases occupying the city and we're seeing this in many cities around the bay or in the country where people who patrol the city do not live in the city it's such an interesting perspective i hadn't thought about this certainly when police are not going to be worried about running into their high school classmates or neighbors probably they take a different attitude just last question for you josh coming up ahead i've been trying to follow what's been going on in oakland throughout the day on twitter on facebook i know that after this particular park was you know after the police came through a lot of the protests or tried to go to different areas to different corners and

they were just moments later met by police who said you're going to have to leave here too can you bring us the latest can you give us an update i know some of those protesters who are arrested early this morning are just sort of starting to get out of you know being held in custody what can we expect next for occupy oakland. so my understanding is that many of those protesters that have been arrested are not being released at this point and there are twitters in messages coming through my phone calling on people to call the city call the police department called the jail and ask that they're being released mine is being held on seventy five hundred dollars bail and many people fear that they are not going to be released until thursday if they don't pay these tens of thousands of dollars of bail the other park it was occupied snoeck park which is a few blocks away was really it shortly after the name camp was was taken over my understanding is that people are going to start congregating in a couple of hours outside the library at four o'clock pacific time and my

understanding is they're going to come back to the park and that this is not over in their opinion and this will continue the occupation doesn't seem to be turning away going away any time soon and i imagine we'll see more tense out there sometime tonight and certainly have their followers in the footsteps of any of these other major cities where this is happening this is going to be going on for a long time to come independent journalist ashworth joining us from oakland with the very latest thanks so much one of those major cities in fact the origin of the occupy wall street movement in new york city go there now and then a look of a story of one member of this movement his economic roller coaster talk and kept him out on the streets are to correspondent. has the story. from riches to rags an american fairy tale gone sour eric smith walks by a luxurious manhattan hotel the chef here for six years he whipped up posh meals for the rich and famous we did a banquets for five thousand. we did parties for the past three presidents.

the recession changed everything today eric is jobless and broke the radar right now collecting unemployment which. reminds his ingredients of change too we work with a lot of high end. now it's lettuce and tomatoes for simple vegetable brought in a brooklyn soup kitchen where he volunteered as one of the cooks for occupy wall street protests the thirty eight year old detroit native dreams of starting his own business and talk truck but doesn't have the money you know it's been a struggle. has made me think about how other people are struggling even more than myself realisation that one in six americans are living in poverty. because led eric to the occupy wall street protests calling for change i've seen it go from

bad to worse to even worse and it's really happening all over the country the food he and other volunteers cook a soup kitchen chairs everybody from the revolution. gets delivered to the protesters who spend the night camping out our eric also sleeps here at the end of the night when many of us people here i'll go to the comfort zone and find myself a sleeping bag right on the ground usually even though the sheriff is penniless and this revolution he says has been waiting for it has entire life looking for rich back cats in manhattan and trying to get out as fast as possible and make sure it's all perfect for the poor and the rich. operated and always told me this this is something that's really good look at the fruits of the believe in the life is tougher than ever before eric says he would not choose to be anywhere else but here relatively well off to flat out wrong is not an exceptional biography to

have in the west these days eric story is one of millions but he is one of only hundreds that have found their week here so far and such a church our chief new york i want to switch gears now and go to libya where the interim rule today announced that moammar gadhafi is body has been laid to rest in a secret location this is so it doesn't become a shrine to his supporters they say meanwhile thousands from libya's new ruling class are devoting their time and energy to rejoicing instead of attending the pressing task of rebuilding the country so with routine water shortages of thousands dead and the country's infrastructure largely destroyed here's a question are people ignoring the price it's country has paid for freedom our season is an hour is on the ground in tripoli and has this report. the liberation are loud and clear. it looks like a state of euphoria here and everybody's happy and you know. even though there is

no formal you know law and order but are they ignoring the price paid for freedom in libya some thirty thousand civilians are said to have been killed and four thousand still missing this house was one of nato misses a single family lost five people including children running of moving at the time of their cold joists all governments and no one sauce who is going to rebuild my house who will compensate us for loss much of the country's infrastructure has been destroyed by the water is now a serious challenge in the capital i don't have any supplies and try to collect what they can. and a family with six kids we knew would have to leave and to come here again and get water is very difficult to get them back when they got on the electric station and then walid for ten days they haven't fixed the problem at least we can come here

for now. but maybe not much longer. before the war libya could boast one of the best living standards on the continent with high life expectancy and dogged child mortality rates but after months of heavy bombing and fierce fighting the country's social and economic achievements have been brutally reversed its people now betting on a heavily armed and inexperienced group to govern them through a fresh start in the wake of destruction ali asked us not to reveal his face during my pay for saying this. that if you talk or see anything positive about gadhafi you will have serious problems with the rebels there is no government in speaking out to the end of you he tells me if people were truly happy about the end of the duffy and the way he was killed there would be millions not thousands on the streets to get their free movies i'm sure some sixty to seventy percent of the

country does not approve of the way gadhafi was killed we expected them to be tried as a prisoner of war not killed like what we are told in new libya that would be justice when he was the head of this country and there was an all justice in the way he was killed i had not hope for the future but it's just the beginning don't you think that it will get better with time but things will take time to change in the country it's not the only agreement as you know i think there will be a lot of fighting in the future right now in egypt and one of the it is fighting going on between tribes and anyone with a weapon as power who can do what they want. so many celebrate this new era libya's history people like me would quietly bracing for the worst and he's now a r.c. to. you know some important questions raised here about the price of peace and if what we are seeing is actually peace well that is exactly what i spoke to columnist and former reagan administration official craig roberts about he joined me a little while ago from atlanta georgia and i just asked him to break things down

and give me his thoughts on what is next for libya after gadhafi. washington endeavor to make libya to stay. and of course the country is not united and this was not the liberation or freedom thing. and there will be tremendous. in-fighting and it'll probably break out in the real fighting and washington will use that to subdue the country various tribes will desecrate one another in the meantime washington will be building a new ruling class and enriching that class so that in the economic connection. with washington cheap libya under the sun i want to stop you right there you said that you think that washington will very likely turn libya into a puppet government with but we've got to stop for a second and say you know this has been said about other places let's look at what

we just saw in tunisia the first place for the arab spring sort of happened elections there this past weekend islam is largely came out ahead there of course we expect egypt when they have their elections we expect that large likely to be run by the muslim brotherhood leaders in libya have val that it will be run by muslims but it certainly remains to be seen what kind of policies those in charge will push i mean you say it could be a puppet government but it seems to me that those who couldn't very well come into power may not have the policies and ideals of the u.s. in mind. well you see christine tunisia was not. a proxy army you know will throw the government. in libya this was this was a western instigated revolt that was not true in tunisia but when you talk about the national transitional council i mean still actually daily just after me who was

going right exactly those who are doing this and several people believe that it's largely made up of former and current members of al qaida so i mean. don't you think it's very possible that when a lections happen in libya that it's going to be people who have differing policies than the u.s. well i certainly don't believe washington and its nato partners states conducted thousands and thousands of military sorties on libya destroying most of the country killing thirty thousand people just in order to turn and go down there. and it certainly didn't do that and therefore that's not going to happen well certainly i think most people would hope that's the case probably at least in this country but let's take a look take a look at this week alone just staying for a little longer because you know we'll talk about the puppet governments of us iraq this week kick us out said sorry i know you want to keep

a few thousand troops here after the end of this year not going to happen i mean karzai and afghanistan who a lot of people say is a puppet government for the u.s. this week said afghanistan would support pakistan were attacked by the u.s. you know so what about those as examples of other puppet governments it seems like the u.s. it's like it's not a good idea for this country to engage in that anywhere. well i agree that we shouldn't be piling in these people. we're not doing it in order to liberate them from tyrants or anything of the sort we have and i say we i don't mean me i mean washington. why snares it's all of gender and gender is not in the interest of the people. who grok the american military so in the case of afghanistan. washington is going off more than you can chew just like it and karzai who is an estimate be weren't as they were not united

states is going to be able to make it stick and. that was columnist and former reagan administration official paul craig roberts and that is going to do it for now but for more on the stories we covered right r.t. dot com slash usa or you tube dot coms last r.t. america if you follow me on twitter i'm at frowsy i will be right back here in thirty minutes. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then something else you hear see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't. think.