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guys it's time for show and tell and i program now last week we spoke to john healy about the u.s. intervention in uganda it was announced last week we asked if sending it we should be sending troops into the country let's go to producer patrice and essentially to find out what you have to say. the u.s. is currently fighting five wars for national security interests two official wars in iraq and afghanistan and three shadow wars in pakistan yemen and somalia and in the last year we've extended our military for so-called humanitarian efforts and libya and now uganda the u.s. has stated that it will be sending one hundred troops evander to stop the lord's resistance army from continuing to kill innocent civilians so what the u.s. currently involved in at least five conflicts for national security reasons and one

for stated humanitarian purposes are we stretching ourselves too thin should the u.s. be sending troops to gondor well timothy said no we must bring all troops home and stop policing the world now ira and political on youtube things we should stop sending troops anywhere we are apparently the barbarians of the world who fix everything with force walker said allowing mass murder is wrong but his anger that americans only seem to intervene when there is oil. people interests bought a boomer said the u.s. needs to stay out of uganda is business but they want the oil that's there anything to keep it from going to trying is there montra now many of our viewers who wrote in think the u.s. is motivated by oil i think there are many factors here to look at so why after so many years has the us decided to intervene now is the lord's resistance army responsible for the deaths of so many civilians gets should the u.s.

military be going in to uganda to try and stop them well that's a different story altogether. well as always we appreciate your responses and here's our next question for you at home early in the show we discussed rick perry's new economic plan to give people an option to pay a flat tax rate of twenty percent i heard my two cents but let us know what you think it's a flat tax a good idea for us you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and you know your response just like me. now it comes to being open and honest with the public google might not be the first company that comes to mind but internet search giant has been known for invading privacy and crossing that creepy line through various programs things like google street view google plus you know who features on g. mail but it looks like a search giant's making attempts at being more open through its unique transparency tool tool isn't and as a sara lee anything new it does offer up a chance for the public to see how often do we get served by governments with requests for information and so here's an on shocker it's

a lot for example the number of u.s. government requests for data on google users who might be involved in a criminal investigation has gone up twenty nine percent and the past six months after beginning of january to the end of june this year government agencies sent five thousand nine hundred fifty requests which averages out to about thirty one per day so yeah i would still say that's a lot and that means the governments are increasingly turning to a person's internet profile be it social media our e-mail to get all of the jurors they want to know. thing for google's help because let's not forget they have a scary amount of your personal information now google openly admits it has complied in some way with ninety three percent of those government requests which can vary from subpoenas to court orders but there's a little bit of silver lining here and google's transparency report the company now includes the number of users and accounts affected by those government requests however it doesn't break down the requests by type but still this is a milestone for the corporation google and is alone in providing that kind of data

to the public and according to the company itself the goal of providing that type of transparency is to encourage efforts to reform the twenty year old electronic communications privacy at that's a law that currently allows law enforcement to obtain users' online information without a judge's approval so these are for my friends are shared by amazon a.o.l. a.t.m. t. and facebook also part of a group called the due process coalition over none of those companies have you have provided data on hopped in the government seeks information about you so while the government is increasingly seeking out personal information from internet companies it is a step in the right direction that google's making efforts to be somewhat honest about its cooperation but google still can't release any information on all other sorts of requests that it receives from the government from pfizer lawrence to national security letters which all can be issued by the f.b.i. in drug and terrorism cases and come with gag orders attached so the truth is americans are a long way away from knowing just how much google truly works with the government to hand over your private info. now guess what the obama administration which

promised to be the most open and transparent as one can now propose her vision of the freedom of information act rules would allow federal agencies to simply lie to citizens and reporters that are seeking certain records by telling them that they don't exist even if they do now these rules were originally made public in march but after a lot of transparency and civil rights groups raised objections they open to comment submissions in september and the comments definitely came in pay c.l.u. along with citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington and open the government dot org all wrote a letter to the a g o j saying this move will dramatically undermine government integrity by allowing a law designed to provide the public access to government information can be twisted to permit federal law enforcement agencies to actively lie to the american people so what are the chances that the objections can actually get this thing stopped and what does this say about the obama administration so far a very poor record on living up to their promise of transparency joining me to

discuss this is aaron swartz founder and director of demand progress dork and i want to thank you so much for coming on and i it's been a while since we've we've had you on the show and before we get into what the new rule is can you talk about you know it's not like the government already has to hand over everything that you ask for when it comes to the freedom of information act they still have a lot of ways to say no so what's already in place. but that's right there's an enormous number of exemptions and exceptions to the freedom of information act it's not a law that just totally turns everything over a look government to the public so for example we government is allowed to withhold things that mightn't danger a corporation they're allowed to withhold things that way invade people's personal privacy which they've often interpreted to mean they can withhold things that are embarrassing about government workers or government officials and they're allowed to withhold things that way in. a criminal investigation or in danger national security so these are sort of big broad categories which the government has already been using to turn down lots of freedom of information act requests i know they

also have another response where they basically you know can tell you that they can neither confirm nor deny whether the document exists i think about called the globe our response rate and that's something that is just really vague we can't confirm or deny whether we have this but now they want to just cut out all you know all of the vagary there and basically just lie to your face i can understand what possible legal rationale they're using for trying to push this rule and you know what's behind it. that's exactly right the globe or case was a case where the courts ruled that in certain extreme cases of national security instead of confirming that they had certain documents which might give away information they could say they could neither confirm nor deny those documents now that they're changing it to which is just insane but changing it to outright lying and saying that they don't have any documents even when they know that if you can think of any possible justification nobody's pointed to a single case where somebody has been put in danger because the government didn't

lie it's completely absurd i mean do you think that they might just trying to be disparaging lawsuits here right because sometimes you can sue if they deny or foia requests but at this point if they lie to you tell you that it is exist i guess people aren't going to fall i've been trying to take it to court. yeah that's exactly right so at the moment if they give you this sort of global response you can take that record and review their decision but their theory is if they just lie to you and say they don't have any documents you would think of challenging them to find out the truth and so it's a way for government agencies to avoid having to comply with the law ok so are you as outraged about this as i am of the a.c.l.u. as crew is open the government dot org is i mean i absolutely think that it's ludicrous yeah i think it's completely outrageous i mean as you just showed the government is taking more and more documents about us getting them from sites like google and facebook and now they want to disclose less and less to the public you know it's completely absurd it's actually illegal to lie to

a government agent and yet the government wants to make it legal to light all of us if that ridiculous really but let's talk about the obama administration today and i think you and i have talked about so again about this before but here is an administration that came in promising to be the most open and the most transparent in history at this point do you think the big get a failing grade i mean let's not forget this is also the president that actually received a transparency award but in a very private ceremony it was even open to the press. yes this is just another in a long line of incredibly transparent moves from the obama administration from cracking down on whistleblowers to withholding documents to as you mentioned not even accepting their transparency a word in public it's completely ridiculous and it's been one of the most transparency ministrations we've seen which is saying something considering the legacy from the bush administration now if we really look at the freedom of information act this isn't an incredibly important actor this is ricin really

stunning and really incredibly important that we have to take advantage of as journalists as american citizens to try to get information out there can you think of some things that you think that you know where the most important revelations are very prominent revelations that really came out of the fact that we have a freedom of information act. yeah i mean there's been so many but just as a few examples a lot of the revelations about bush's flying program came because of freedom of information act requests at the moment i personally am filing a freedom of information act requests to find out more information about something which i think was reported on your show which is the government's use of special software to adopt secret persona and still post on internet forums as multiple people and in fact you know i use the for information act requests to find out the p.f.b. i had staked out right parents house i mean there's so many fascinating things we find out about what our government is doing to us because of this crucial tool and it would be outrageous to try and keep it away. do you think that it's not all that

aware that we just have the story about google having this tool that at least shows us how many times the government goes through and requests for people's personal private information but i mean google is also known for having a very cozy relationship with the government there are they trying to kind of play both teams here and you know sit on the fence a little. i think what we're seeing is google pushing a little bit in the direction of more openness because of all the criticism and the pressure that inference used what we'd really like is for google not just to give us a number each year of how many requests he receives but actually tell us the details of those requests and inform people about their data before they turn it over to the government that we would or hands but you know i think it's and that's why it's important to keep public pressure and that's why be it to me in progress that org have some petitions urging corporations to be a little bit more open and transparent all right erin really quickly here you know it's been a while since we've had you on the show can you give us any updates as to your story what's going on right now in our time when you. have to care about

a case and say if you could have been progress that or there's an urgent thing happening tomorrow which everybody should know about where the government is introducing a new even more extreme bill to try and blacklist certain websites off the internet as a great take action all right thank you so much aaron. thanks for having me back. ok guys it's our last break of the evening but you know i want to bring out our top five winners and i think that there is another war on another holiday being waged in our children. i'm talking about and happy hours tonight herman cain's new campaign. literally an air force wants you to know that what they do is science fiction effort when it kind of it. means a little we're. going to bring justice or. i have the right to know what my government if you want to know why i pay taxes.

well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you don't see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you. hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything is all. part of the big.

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are you guys have time for tonight tool time award and try to go to our favorite morning show to love the hate box and friends to gretchen stephen brian really know how to take a shall we say unique approach to truly hard hitting topics and yesterday was absolutely no exception to that is some schools across the country are banning students from wearing their hollowing costumes to school and so of course fox and friends are not ok with that but they're not just not ok with it you know their style they say that it's all out war. all right so apparently they call this we don't have the quote for you unfortunately but i can just tell you when they said it is an all out assault on holloway the common sense has flown out the window and the name of the all powerful political correctness now i think that in order to call the proper amount of attention to that serious attack they also called in a guest to reinforce their point of view and they gave us a few contacts to the horrible crimes to the rights of children basically saying that well you know what if kids really want to costume even if they can't afford

a costume who cares about the immigrants and what they can do is they can put arts and crafts classes this is an art school anyway but when you think about that you guys i mean really kids of arts and crafts costumes sure they're going to feel really really awesome about themselves i don't know how cruel kids are these days but let's go back to talking about gretchen and i'm just having to explaining this audio clips aren't working right now but you know how gretchen is she was really moved by this because she decided to tell viewers how truly hurt she was by the fact that there was a warhol of weed because she was upset that her child wouldn't be able to wear a costume she was upset that her poor child wouldn't be able to take part in the same american traditions that she got to grow up in but you know i really know that sorry for her poor children because something tells me that they get to wear designer hollerin costumes and not the arts and crafts type you know i think that it kind of makes sense right progression is so passionate about this assault after all she has been on the frontlines of fighting anybody who dares attack one of

america's holidays i think you all probably remember we showed you many times here on this show fox news one of the fox and friends host a good hard hitting question during their g.o.p. presidential debate and correction decided to make her question for the candidates one that's near and near and dear to her heart of all things seriously think about it all things that could actually asked a presidential candidate at a debate she decided to ask them about the war on christmas and how they feel about the war on christmas i mean for. again about immigration poverty unemployment no gregson it wanted to know about political correctness and the war in christmas and apparently in her world that's a really important issue of course we also can't forget the fact that fox and friends is really upset about the war started on easter president obama issued a statement for ramadan addressing the muslim world as obama extended a hand of the muslim community gretchen and company could not believe the easter was over looked at me they were absolutely outraged i think we actually have this

one so take a look some people said that they might have an issue with the fact that he didn't issue a proclamation for easter so some people are saying is this an outreach to the muslim world and why isn't there an outreach to the christian world historically does have white house easter egg roll but they didn't issue official proclamation like you did for ramadan just now. we got one clip in there but come on people have in america learned its lesson yet you don't mess around with us holidays or else you'll be called out on fox and friends but seriously i just wonder don't these people have anything more present to talk about during their morning shows from the looks of it calling attention to fake wars against holidays is the best they can come up with these days so put out fox and friends or see tonight stills i'm sure.

our guys it's time for happy hour joining me tonight is archie producer jenny churchill and tanya sama native reporter and blogger for think progress dot org thanks for joining me guys i think we actually have our clips for this one of those talks talking through the clips is always interesting and like i'm fox and friends and gretchen and steve doocy and brian kilmeade but if we have a clip i think it's going to go well let's take a look at herman cain's new ad that was released last night i think it's kind of hilarious but everyone is absolutely going crazy over it today in the media so let's take a look for a second. nobody's ever seen this america's never seen a candidate like. we need you to get involved because together we can do this or we could take this country.

i first started i just feel like this comes from somewhere in the one nine hundred eighty s. with like the really cheesy song and herman cain just smiling i mean this is low production stuff right this isn't like these are the flashy campaign ads that we've seen from rick santorum for and tim pawlenty you know for ron paul but the media today you know i mean you have to laugh about that right it's kind of funny but i feel like some of them. actually trying to take it seriously and i couldn't believe it the guy was smoking i definitely saw a christian thing on m.s.m. he sees a really smoking a cigarette we care is i think there's a lot of people in america that actually smoke cigarettes that might actually think it's like a school but he says like real americans that i like herman cain and i just might play to his base it's not creepy to smoke a cigarette yes no i mean i completely agree with you and i think that that was the whole point was that he's kind of bucking what everyone else is doing and they've got these flashy movie ask ads and his looks like it was shot outside the cosco. yeah but i mean nothing says america's future alike you know chain smoking and

a hamburger mustache so really he's speaking of the core of america ok that's not the future america one but i still think that it probably makes sense for a lot of americans who they're like that ok speaking of ads let's take a look at an ad from the air force and we'll play it for you first and then we'll kind of break it down as to why it's so funny because the whole tagline here is not science fiction so pay attention for some things that might look kind of like science fiction. let's.

so spencer ackerman over wired danger did pretty good job of breaking this down today because he's like ok you know people are in trouble air force comes in to help them we're all cool but then you have the engines that rotate into a vertical position which is impossible to happen then you have this gigantic plane which is one hundred seventy four feet long and can weigh up to five hundred eighty five thousand pounds and land on a bridge that's crying and falling apart and yet they're still able to land on it and nothing happens and then it just completely turns into a different plane altogether it becomes transformer play actually got a government contract maybe that's what happened that we all want to know what actually happened but it's a little ironic that they're calling it not science fiction and they just do it now that's completely unrealistic i mean we see it all the time but like lisa in college. i mean i cannot imagine a world in which and it was also i'm to see the press person be like well no yes none of those things could happen but that's not the point of the ad well if that's

not part of the ad why does it actually say that in the ask. this statement not actually meant to be true yes that's a very it was a little aspect they probably nobody would notice because apparently he then contacted the air force they were like the whole thing is supposed to be the focus on actually helping civilians in times of need right which they actually do you do like just forget about the whole fact that we just splashed it. transforms into an alien paint job focused on that i think what happened was actually the budget to make this to make herman cain's ad movie asked was actually just shifted into the air force budget so they had to go all out. ok so speaking about the. air force let's talk about military recruiters for a second here because again we know that i don't know about you guys but i went to u.c. santa cruz and this is always a huge deal every time that we had a jobs fair on campus it's a pretty liberal campus we see a lot of protests and anytime there's a jobs fair we have military recruiters there there was always massive protests and

i think we actually have a clip to show you real quick. think it was probably while i was still at school there but so portland is actually allowing high schools now or they're considering allowing them to have anti-war protesters right alongside the military recruiters actually taught kids out of signing up for the military think about that i mean i think it's always good when you can get multiple perspectives on something and i'm a little torn because i was always super weirded out by the military recruiters and high school because they would call me at home and try to get me to go into the military which is the same time it is a good option for a lot of americans so i'm torn but i do think it's going to be honest about it a chance to show you air force commercials like that and tell you you're going to ride magical planes that transform into other magical planes so i think this is interesting because these are high school kids you know their attention span is

better than that you know you have got flashy bolts on one table and then wires on pirates on another it's portland let's be serious you know who's going to win and i think i think the military recruiters still have an advantage right now all right let's really quickly introduce them to have very interesting development it's being debated right now take a look. at there's a little help here would be to use we could talk about testing an anthrax vaccine on children that was already been tested on millions of adults and it's considered safe and scientists are still unsure i'll say for a fact it would be for a child. so that's something they're debating right now because then you know they can give it to children and all be prepared if there's ever an anthrax attack but i just feel like it's anthrax really big issue anymore i feel like that was so two thousand and one that we haven't really heard of like anthrax attacks that have been this is how likely is it does exist really like the most important thing you

know to be making vaccines for a know well it's not that it wouldn't be making new vaccines actually and then testing the original vaccines on children i don't know i mean i think that they made a good point would you rather test them now or wait until there's an actual attack and then just give it to thousands of kids. i mean what michele bachmann not going to like not right now we can be sure about old evolve into a partisan sawgrass that's one thing we do know about this issue can't wait but i happen to wrap it of course and we're out of time i thank you so much for joining me as if a night show thanks for tuning in make sure the back tomorrow representative keith ellison is going to be on the program to discuss occupy wall street i mean kind of getting the fan a deal on a show on facebook and follow us on twitter you missed any night or any other night you can always catch the you tube dot com slash a lot of the effect is in the. but

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