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well i'm some are going to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture chaos erupts in the bay area as occupy oakland protesters were attacked last night with tear gas and rubber bullets so with the recent assault in california break the momentum of the movement or increase the power of the ninety nine percent demonstrators and it appears republicans in congress have caught on to president obama's strategy of trying to make them look well actually are like the party of no they set a legislative trap of their own and they're daring the democrats to walk into it so one options loosely president obama. you need to know this occupy oakland turned into
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a war zone early this morning as police armed with flash grenades smoke bombs and rubber bullets shut down the encampment in the early hours of this morning just before five am roughly two hundred oakland police officers in riot gear surrounded the occupy oakland encampment before moving in firing tear gas and shooting rubber bullets on peaceful protesters the raids were just twenty minutes and afterwards more than eighty people were arrested and the entire camp was dismantled and trashed including tents food and medical supplies it's like what happened in chicago over the weekend oakland resorted to violence to squash the ninety percent . first for the latest from occupy oakland i'm joined on the phone by joshua holland senior writer editor net joshua welcome. thanks for being with us joshua thanks for reporting from oakland do i have this right a caller on my radio show today said the babies and children were tear gassed last night. there was by all accounts quite
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a bit of violence i got here this morning i was not here for the morning or spare when they actually moved here but the national lawyers guild legal observers here i've heard reports of quote. amounts of excessive force they report that there's been three injuries a head injury a couple of broken hands and national lawyers guild has the means of a hundred and five protesters in custody while are the protesters still in custody yes they're being held prisoner in the conflicting reports earlier people were saying that they would be arraigned on thursday and they are being held on ten thousand dollars payoff that seems to be true of the small number or serious charges remaining at the site of a riot here and that of disorderly conduct a lot of people are going to be according to l.g. cited and released but that is a time consuming process here in oakland i know its efforts in fighting people and
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releasing that within an hour. and that's typically done in d.c. that was the worse overnight and we spent the better part of the day today trying to track down somebody who was actually there and the rest and then turns out they're all still in jail probably plans for tonight what's going on and i you know i'm. there's quite a bit of tension i'm now outside of maine public library which is about four blocks away from. that was evacuated and protesters here are defiant. in about forty five minutes they're expecting to march back to the plaza itself to reclaim it however i can say for the father and there are perhaps. eighty police in riot gear there actually there are sheriff's department out that are guarding the plaza earlier it was at least part of this is a major major operation very costly and i'm not certain what the end game is
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because the protesters about that as soon as they can they will do that here and there's no way for the local influence farming area police department be gathered to maintain this level of police presence in the fog. joshua holland thanks for being with us. very good record and i'd like to turn over to my panel joining me now in the studio chris powers campaign director of the koz and annabel park founder of the coffee party usa welcome to both of you it's a great to have you with us just just to start this contrasts chris if you could the albany which was the absolute opposite apparently of what happened with josh was just describing you know. albany san francisco which is kind of halfway between and and open if you could force one of the things we're definitely seeing is that the way that local law enforcement and local elected officials deal with occupy movements varies widely from city to city in albany there had been
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political pressure from governor andrew cuomo and from the mayor of albany to clear out the encampment that was placed on local law enforcement however as the police themselves said later on you know they know policing politicians don't and they've decided that simply that would be a bad idea the attorney general of. the county in new york also agreed that it would be a bad idea for a variety of reasons including relationship with the local community and and you know that tearing people away from their children who were at being kammen and just simply the amount of resources that would be and paul is clearly a difference a different decision was made in oakland where you had what seems to be a truly excessive amount of force that was used to frankly annihilate and shut down in camden even though the occupation of the protesters continue something in san francisco was a little bit more in between where you had all the stuff was taken away from an encampment but the protesters themselves were not arrested so you're going to be treated respectfully by the police immediately get reasonably in san francisco. you
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know i wonder if the mare being here in washington d.c. the mayor of oakland might have had anything to do with the police going nuts in oakland to this this reminds me of the police right now the sixty eight chicago democratic convention the the the mayor of oakland i know is under significant. political pressure right now facing a recall campaign and so that's how effective it is that the fall campaign from the left or from the right i don't know actually but you know recalls will usually draw support you know even if they're coming mostly from one side you always see a decent number of supporters from from the other side show actually trying to say you know i can be tough your wheaties and a bill i'm speaking to nuna here enough is enough rally here on saturday october twenty ninth for the coffee parties. the coffee party usa occupy wall street. view all hanging out is supportive of what's what's what's going on here we have
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definitely been supportive of the occupy wall street movement and see that we're all really coming from this same place a real discontent and really a lack of choices about what we can actually do to make a lot of lives better through the fight for changes but are the choices that i think for a lot of people who are so fed up that looking with people inside the government that we're feeling like the only thing left to do is really demonstrate to be out on the street and you know one of the. one of the people who's going to be or is unable to. change is a former chief partier who has moved over to the coffee party and now to occupy wall street you know i'm curious chris are you are you finding much of this phenomena i'm getting a lot of callers on my radio show people who are saying well so you know some middle aged people who are murderers who are saying you know i was i was there for the tea parties just because i was mad as hell and i'm not going to take anymore
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there is no other way to speak out and now i'm there for occupy wall street and our polling released a fairly close today show that actually twelve percent of people who identify themselves as tea party supporters also support occupy wall street so about one of the tea party members do appear to support occupy wall street but that also means that seven eight zero so there is some crossover. mostly there mostly there's they seem to be drawing separate supporters but there are some probably it would be interesting to go back two years and you know find people who two and three years ago identify themselves as tea partiers because now there's been this kind of filtering and people who still call themselves tea partiers. tend to be basically the republican base yeah we could certainly see a phenomenon similar to that with occupy wall street as time goes on the occupy wall street is ahead of the tea party in the polls right now it has more supporters in every poll has a positive favorable rating but with more people viewing it favorably than negatively in more than a dozen polls at this point but when the tea party started it had a very positive favorable rating as well and it that is that is certainly declined over time and now it's seen as a negative force by
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a plurality of americans whether or not occupy wall street's going to be able to maintain that positive view is going to be one of its biggest challenges going forward. and a build tonight albuquerque new mexico on the new year in albuquerque our radio show and we are getting calls all afternoon from people talking about ten o'clock tonight they're going to take down the police are going to try and pull in oakland apparently. what's your sense of how i mean you've been involved movement politics for some time what's your sense of how these kinds of actions. affect movements do they soften them to strengthen them i think you are overall strength of people's resolve and feel that there should be confident that their point of view that our government no longer belongs to us is actually right we're not crazy so i think it affirms like what we already suspect but in terms of what we can do because we have a system in which we don't have
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a mubarak we don't have somebody could just step down and everything would change we have a legal system with a set of laws that have to change over time and so i think it really is incurred of the people figure out how to get people to work together to figure out as we hash out how to change those laws and make it make it happen we can't just stay out on the street for ever yeah yeah well and to an issue that i spoke at one of your gigs in new york or two ago chris the the. somebody from the occupy wall street and the occupy minneapolis. radio show and said that they their general assembly had passed a resolution as a second hand a i believe it to be true but i don't know. that their general assembly passed a resolution to say corporations are not people money is not speech and corporate personhood and a topic that's near and dear to my heart but it seems like that's the cancer at the core of the whole thing but to end it all is point we don't have
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a bar who would step down but we have one hundred years of supreme court. rulings that have created this monster might that be a logical focus for this we have just about a minute left oh i think it already is the focus in a lot of ways we had a survey of we had about twenty five thousand members of our community excited to go to occupy wall street events and after they went we asked them what they hoped that the movement would accomplish in the most common answer was reducing corporate power reducing take taking big money out of politics and in corporate and corporate personhood and while there's certainly a wide range of. of goals that people want to achieve that occupy wall street that seems to be the most common thing that people are saying reduce the power of wall street reduce the power of corporations over the government and really over a long time and there are movements to do that in addition so that's that's good news chris and bill thank you both for being here thank you very much richard i'll have more on occupy wall street in just
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a moment but first. it's time for your for our daily poll your chance to tell us what you think here's the question will the violent tactics used by the oakland police to evict occupy oakland work your choices are yes that's enough to keep anyone away or no first they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win gandhi all around and. you think the poll will be open until tomorrow. well you know if four hundred americans own more wealth than one hundred fifty million other americans combined so how did we get to this point it's one that. drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through get through to putin may who can you trust no one who is you know you with the global machinery see where we had
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a state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. you know there used to be a time in america when as the country got wealthier everyone got wealthier polly world war two as president roosevelt's franklin roosevelt's new deal was to you
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know and a third of the workforce was unionized and we protected our domestic manufacturing industries and corporate monopolies were illegal everyone got wealthier in america and then something happened but wasn't reagan. and as this chart shows since nineteen eighty as the nation got wealthier only the top one percent got wealthier with the rest of us the ninety nine percent. screwed today we're looking at the ninety nine percent of the top one percent one thing is clear we're growing farther and farther apart from each other and that's why people are on the streets today and this is how it came to be that way lots of there's a lot of conversation about the top one percent you know who is the top one percent where they make their money how did how did all this happen and we just pointed out the the average household income. and we'll come back to that in just
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a second but as union membership has collapsed here this is let me just point out this is from sixty seven to two thousand and seven here's the election of ronald reagan right here so union membership are going to go and then all of a sudden. like that union membership collapsing along with it is the wages going to average working people so what's this green line here oh this is the top one percent and here you get a little there was a little mini stock market crash during the reagan years and then there was the stock market crash during the bush years but basically if you would you know drew a line through this this is the trend line you've got that's the one percent getting richer and richer and richer as the other ninety nine percent along with union membership are collapsing. in addition to this we see average household income. this this is the bottom here we have the very bottom the black on this
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bottom twenty percent then you have the second twenty percent that's the blue line then the third twenty percent this kind of the average median american is the red line has been flat this is from one hundred seventy nine was basically in total from reagan camera coming into office until two thousand and seven and then that and then you know the the next to the top twenty percent. and then the top twenty percent of these in aggregate are this is the hundred percent top twenty percent done ok you've seen they've seen their income go up but this number here is really weird this is not a twenty percent this isn't a quintile a fifth of the slice this is the top one percent again these protesters that you saw you know out in oakland that you're seeing the video of they're talking about we are the ninety nine percent they are the one percent well there are there's the one percent and again this little dip during the during the bush stock market crash will dip during the reagan stock market crash but basically it
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was in the race and this was reagan to reagan's first tax cut ninety six reagan second second tax cut on millionaires and billionaires and boom it has exploded so how has it exploded how has it fundamentally changed our economy how are we making our money now there's been a there's been a bunch of variables here and i only was it raw ronald reagan's tax cuts in the one nine hundred eighty s. but also reagan stop enforcing the sherman antitrust act he stopped and foreseen the laws that prevented corporations from getting so big that you know they basically force all the small businesses out of out of business force that their competitors out of the marketplace and and turn into trans national giants and then we have this whole free trade mania that will just throw the country open to everybody or you know every country in the world and so you have transnational general electric making most of their money outside the united states exxon mobile all these these very many of these very large corporations so manufactured in one
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thousand nine hundred seven was twenty five percent of our economy was a quarter of our economy. right now in two thousand and nine eleven percent manufacturing has just collapsed so how do we keep it economy. this is called the fire con this is finance insurance real estate around the world leasing and from forty thousand one hundred forty seven which is the movement you fraction you know basically your banker was the you know the middle class guy who were green eyeshades and work banker hours and took your checking accounts and things like that and over time you know kind of went along and then and then here we are ronald reagan's election and who have walked through the races as the manufacturing collapses we have now is twenty one percent of our economy is is basically banking and and in addition to that thirty four percent of all corporate profits last year were in the banking sector no longer in manufacturing which has produced that that top one percent which means that this is this horizontal axis here is is
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wealth distribution inequality the most unequal country in the world usa actually portugal slightly more usa this is the most unequal and then on this vertical scale is social ills and which include obesity mental disorders drug abuse teenage pregnancy imprisonment violence lack of social mobility lack of trust homicides and infant mortality notice the countries that are very equal you don't have a lot of millionaires you don't have a lot of poor people japan sweden norway denmark are doing just fine but as we get more and more unequal we get sicker and sicker as a society and states which brings us back to here from one hundred forty seven to nine hundred seventy nine the that and four decades after the war as each these are these are the fifths right each fifth we all did better that the top twenty percent didn't do spectacularly well now reagan gets elected and boom this is the top
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twenty percent there are many five percent this is the top one percent. something's got to be done about this we've identified these ills it's time to make a change. president obama just walked into a trap after three years of being told no the president figured he finally had republicans right where he wanted to introduce the american jobs act a few weeks ago and watched republicans say no to three million new jobs in america he then introduced just one provision of his jobs act to put four hundred thousand teachers cops and firefighters back to work last week and watched republicans say no to that too and he was ready to introduce a new proposal creation or a new job creation city proposal each week and there are republicans to say no each
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and every time until it's time to run for reelection and then he could be harry truman and run against the republican do nothing congress and it was working well and then the republicans rise to this week democrats will rip exudate republicans will force democrats to take a very uncomfortable vote they will combine one provision from president obama's jobs act and dean only the provision least likely to create new jobs as a tax cut for federal contractors with another provision from the deficit reduction proposal also endorsed by the president it would take senior citizens out of medicaid and they're going to dare the democrats to vote no. noting that both proposals were supported by the white house john boehner as office released a statement reading assuming they are sincere about doing something on jobs there's no reason whatsoever for the white house to oppose it in fact we hope this bipartisan action compels the white house to work with us on further jobs
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legislation there is common ground to be found between us but getting more done will require a willing partner in the white house so it republicans just flip the tables on the president or can he still cannot on karl frisch progressive strategist part we all fight strategies as well as a syndicated columnist and joins me now i. didn't do it was obama to start a half here or have the republicans figured out a way to beat him at his own game or i have a good figure out this is nothing new for the republicans this is a republican congress they came into power saying that their only goal. in their new majority was to defeat president obama in two thousand and twelve this plays right into that deck of cards i mean we're basically playing the shell game and the republicans have removed a little peanut underneath the shell. now it's going to pick up on it and they've eaten the peanut. if you know they could be getting the koch brothers. peanuts and
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coke but what we're really looking at here is what republicans assume is smart politics. this is the result of a good triangulating with only two sides of a triangle. and when you offered a compromise before you give the stock to the table this type of stuff happens but this republican congress has never gone with the president on anything but a handful of senators right when he became president but voted on a few specific things the stimulus for example that's it since then they've done nothing in the republican house of representatives even less i mean i used to make jokes about john boehner you know being so orange he's really a muppet. he is controlled by. i other people he has no control over his own caucus and he's doing the bidding of the can't argue attitude of the tea parties where that's exactly right and it's a position that eric cantor may relish because i think he's just way to stick to shivan that's right he enters back politically. doesn't seem to relish at all
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no i think he much rather be the traditional role of speaker brokering a deal you know it's probably up to three packs a day and six which is you know it's a problem when we long for the days of speaker gingrich who was willing to make a compromise to get something done this this congress is not so just to just to recap what we're talking about here president obama's put a whole bunch of different pieces on the table he said basically can bake break up my jobs bill which has hundreds of pieces and so there's all these pieces floating around and he's going to take the good stuff and throw them out one once every week there's a lot of this is a really crummy one and this is a really crummy want a slam together and tear the democrats to vote no on it or not is think about i mean they're worse than a tax cut for government contractors what this this thing that they want to get rid of it's they have this three percent surcharge that they put on government contractors because there is a big problem with government contractors not paying their taxes so this money was held aside under the guise that this is going to be the tax money if you don't pay
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up and pay your taxes so what are republicans actually advocating here that they're advocating tax fraud it's ridiculous so that's how you create jobs in this country enabling you know if you don't get tax write happened we can't have new jobs you know it karl it is always seemed to me in. politicians and pardons that have strong core values even if they're a little outside of the mainstream you know maybe barry goldwater was too far outside of the mainstream. and arguably george mcgovern but if if they're. within the boundaries of it. people follow them and you know even people who strongly disagreed with george bush never had any doubt about where he stood or at least that's the with those that we've been left right with and he and same with reagan you know created that image that impression is there in your opinion you're a democratic strategist is there
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a sense among the i'm not american populous that president obama and or the democratic party or both. i have a ground on which they stand it doesn't i think there is the problem is that you can give us as democrats seventy percent approval of the things that we want to accomplish we want to make the wealthy and the and the big corporations pay their fair share seventy five eighty percent of the american people support that nearly two thirds of republicans in some polls support that and yet we can squander that so our big problem is not sticking to our guns it's not that people don't know what we stand for or support what we stand for it's that we don't stick to our guns so when the president comes out you know i think you know he's gotten a lot of guff from republicans who say you know he's just he's too intellectual to make a deal with you know he he doesn't pal around like clinton used to well i actually think that that's why he's why he does what he does and that is he looks at a problem he says ok republicans are going to want something from me if we're going
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to get this through let's put it in there let's cut to the chase but you'd think after doing this time and time and time again that he realizes the evidence on it it's hard somebody to take him to a middle eastern affairs are about five years ago and go shave for their rug. it's the same question about the republican party is there a sense that the republican party has core values because now it's increasingly it seems like the only value they have is doing what the top one percent they have a core value and you were showing those charts it's gone through the roof it's very profitable their core value i think the american people know what the republicans stand for and they don't like it. they certainly know that republicans stand for the wealthy and you know it's interesting to watch republicans of all of. negotiating with the president you know their version of negotiating is ok will you give us two of our things and we'll give you none of your things. it's like my niece did when she was in kindergarten you know before she learned to share i just
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it's fascinating watching them evolve especially for a party that doesn't believe in evolution. is it just really quick enough is enough rally saturday at the capital going to be there i will be there will be there with for the senior absolutely karl thank you very much republicans aren't looking out for the one percent they're actually looking out for the two tenths of one percent and analysis by citizens for tax justice found that the new surtax on millionaires being proposed to help pay for millions of new jobs in america will only affect just two tenths of one percent of the population that's it that's a republican so protective with each one of their filibusters just the two tenth's of one percenters so it looks like it's time to start a new moment we are the ninety nine point eight percent. crazy alert all of us has left the building and so is all of us and all of us and
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all of us and all those more than sixty elvis impersonators had to flee a hotel convention in the united kingdom after a smoke machine set off a fire alarm as one hotel guest described the scene oh is it a bit of a state getting out of my room but i was more confused when i got outside to see all these people dressed as all of us are people and full elvis jumpsuits and wigs several dozen men donning pompadours gaudy sunglasses and what rhinestone jumpsuits might be an unusual sight across the pond in the u.k. in las vegas it's called tuesday. coming up wiki leaks is running out of money a financial blockade by banks to resist forcing the whistleblowers out of business but the banks are seen john as fine letting aid groups like the big banks. drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians to see.

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