since the breakthrough that they're going to be made who can you trust no one who is imbue it with a noble mission a receipt where are we cutting state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask why we do our t. question more.

welcome back to the big picture i'm john marvin coming up in this half hour the whistleblower website wiki leaks is on financial life support all thanks to yep you guessed it wall street so julia songes supporters be able to break through the financial blockade at home the banks well it was off to begin with and i magine a world without muslim fear mongering or obama bashing or biased corporate ideology such as for nice one infamous release a call dream about a world missing one particular new. wiki leaks is in trouble in a press conference yesterday with the leaks founder julian assange the site will no

longer be publishing material until we can break through what he calls a financial blockade imposed on the site by american banks signs claim that ninety five percent of wiki leaks revenue has been destroyed as a result of blank banks and blocking funding to the site. and if this blockade isn't ended by the end of the year wiki leaks will go dark a sign the u.s. government itself found that there was no lawful grounds to add wiki leaks to a u.s. financial blockade but the blockade of wiki leaks by politicized u.s. finance companies continues regardless oddly though rob banks are blocking donations from flowing into wiki leaks coffers turning a blind eye to similar donations flowing into the coffers of known hate groups as in cut off the spigot of the whistleblowers open the spigot to the hate mongers so this is just another disturbing fold in the banks their morality that seems to be running the show in america and the world here offer their take surrounded by the

rector of the government accountability project and mark potok director of the intelligence project at the southern poverty law center mark good to have you both with us tonight thank you very much for joining us howdy. thomas if julian aside is silence well i mean. what most likely will happen is the be a lot fear disclosures that are inspired king changes in the course of history like the arab spring and that are irresponsible and destructive such as those that expose confidential sources or people who oppress their lives for legitimate purposes in other words we'll be going back to the more normal routine where we don't know if some of which we have a right amount we need to and some which we probably should. interesting analysis mark the council of concerned citizens or excuse me of conservative citizens i was

looking at their website today and they say that they are in there with their core principles that they are against mixing races that the white race is the superior race. you know and you can donate money to them with mastercard visa or. why them and not julian assange and wiki leaks. well there even a little worse than you suggest i mean the council of conservative citizens is a group that says things like black people are a retrograde species of humanity. but this is the group that in fact is directly descended from the upright citizens councils of the one nine hundred fifty s. and sixty's that in fact were formed to resist school desegregation. but it is surprising and surprising to me that they have not been cut off by hate hour because the reality is that hate panel has actually tried to cut off the out of a sense unusual to find. that there are mechanisms to be

used by groups that are named up the islay and since the american nazi party certainly cannot kick a paper out of the american nazi party as website today and they say that they only accept money orders or well concealed cash is that it has all of the right not of them do the same is that the sonics kind of operators that because they they actually said if you said i'm a personal check they will they will they will shredded or eat it or they made some joke about it they want they want to separate little jugs their only they don't want to trail back to people is that what you. well i think what they're trying to convince people of is that they will be given up some alphabet if there's a federal investigation up say to the american nazi party that their names then end up in the newspaper and i think that's essentially what's going on. you know it's worth noting noting that in fact take out as move against some of the religious right organizations impact if you were going to stations we just named eight groups

in the last year or so so they do seem to be making something of it efforts but then when you go to an organization that's not obviously the name i think the council conservative citizens might be one least in their mind what's quite well known what are we going to say she's for instance the american border patrol which is most definitely a hate group or international policy institute. these groups in fact do newspaper but my own sense of it is that it's because it's not so easy to sell you have left actually spent a lot of work looking at these websites and trying to figure out what the groups are about tom. first or how did this thing how did it come about the wiki leaks you know the banks cut off wiki leaks i understand that the government according to julian signs the government actually no big deal here a and b. . as much as as mark and i may be offended by some of these groups i think banks isn't isn't the bank's business to be a banker not to be a judge of morality of if it's legal to be

a nazi. why not be able to get a credit card if it's you know legal to be wiki leaks and there have been no criminal charges against them why not allow them to take records. we have to go behind the green door to know what really happened but where they can stay is i've been working with lots of cars since the one nine hundred seventy nine about five thousand and thirteen retaliation and it's forms and this is the first time that we've seen this kind of shadowy ship but tween the government and the banks and the financial services industry it's put some precedents and regardless of the facts in this particular to spirit this is a very dangerous precedent that they have been sort of under the table alliances between government and big business. mark is there in your mind any kind of

connection between the obsession with of secrecy that some of these hate groups have and that some of the banks have and the obsession with transparency that we can leaks as that might be causing this collusion is this that make any sense to you well i'm having a slightly more climb here and you were straight connections but. you know i'm not sure that there really isn't an action you know as far as i can see looking over what a power in particular as i said earlier they seem to make and i have heard of sorts you know back sat and let me except fortunate to see them allowing out their nations for instance to something public by minister something this is an ad fit right. claims that's not. what we're small i'm sorry to keep people responsible for the nazi party in the hope of an argument you're scared is breaking about us now to do so and we have throughout this time your book as we sort of

mentioned the opening of just picking up here the whistleblowers survival guide bites on divine and and terror. yeah thank you very much for being with us tonight thanks for having it mark thanks so much for being with us keep up the great work. just. it's the good the bad and the very very khadijah telephone ugly. good partner hotels tennessee hotel was slated to host the innocuously named preserving freedom conference next month that was until the hotel discovered that the conference was actually an anti muslim aid fest sponsored by the most popular islamophobia in america from frank gaffney to pamela geller executives of the hotel's parent company can still be hosting contract saying that they want nothing

to do with the subject matter of the event namely muslim fear mongering well done so it looks like gaffney and geller may have to find a new venue to spew their hate and the device and friends coach the bad the atlanta police department when teresa called pepper noticed her truck had been stolen she called a lot of cops to report it a few minutes later she was the one behind bars why because to reset the same first name as another woman who was wanted on charges of aggravated assault but that's just it that's that's all it was just the same day the birthdays between the two theresa's were different addresses were different the physical descriptions were different even their last names were different yet police for some reason thought they'd found their fugitive and locked a recent up for get this. fifty three days. the tourney says the only thing called paper has in common with the suspect is that they're both african-american women and their first name teresa the age is different it's not the same there are

they were born in the same decade they are on the scale of art weighs about thirty pounds more than the skull cap or from the description on the police reports she's also about five inches taller than the scope of her they don't live in the same her town and i was well known did you know as in the fountain throw in a moment if you think the need now only to me to any. trees was finally released after a lawyer was able to prove it was a case of mistaken identity by bringing the assault victim into court to testify that the woman behind bars was not the person who had attacked or meanwhile a local news station tracked down the real the fugitive to reason he said she hasn't been arrested but we found a woman who said she didn't want her face shown but that she is actually the theresa painted document says committing the assault but you were never arrested so they arrested but the research. say that it was you i was wrong she says she is speaking out to right

a wrong but doesn't believe she should be arrested either because of extenuating circumstances. and to recycle pepper is now seeking legal action against the atlanta police she may just have this one bad and the very very ugly rick perry here's how you go from being a crazy alert to making it to the good bad and ugly list harry has now given his second interview in which he hikes eartha resume his time speaking to see him b.c. perry admitted that while he may not be worried about the president's birth certificate he does think it's a good issue to keep alive as perry said it's part of poke at him a little bit and say i was see your grades your birth certificate. of all the important issues to keep alive right now from wars to the economy to global warming kerry wants to keep alive the birth because it's fun yes this guy actually is running as a republican for president let me guess he americans back to work involves some sort of pull my finger. that's really really. coming up anonymous says

a new target ideally they call imagine how the world would look if a lot of us were successful. drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to create through good through it if you had made who can you trust no one who is human view with a global missionary see where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.

your take my take is the segment of the show where we give you the opportunity to have your questions comments criticisms opinions heard here on the big picture our first comments night is from the viewer rant line i think these protesters need to take a good hard look at our current administration and realize that we have a president here who voted in the senate to bail out wall street if you contribute in two thousand they were goldman sachs j.p. morgan chase citi group and. not just today has made this

election cycle about forty seven thousand from bank of america about forty nine thousand from goldman sachs. connection need to get rid of these crony capitalists and put in a more effective system now well good luck on trying that chris crony capitalism has captured america you're absolutely right and this is certainly not unique to president obama and in fact actually wall street is the largest funder right now for mitt romney's campaign. but back to crony capitalism and this whole thing of money is speech and corporations are people all the stuff that is driving it it has never been voted for by any legislature ever in fact the opposite in one thousand zero seven the tillman act was passed which said that it was illegal for corporations to give money to political parties let me share a quote with you this is this is from

a president of the united states to just show how long this has been going on we discovered this in grover cleveland from his state of the union address in eighteen eighty eight he said we discover that the fortunes realized by our manufacturers are no longer solely the reward of sturdy industry and enlightened foresight but that they result from the discriminating favor of the government and are largely built upon undue extractions from the masses of our people the gulf between employers and the employed is constantly widening and classes are rapidly forming one comprising the very rich and powerful all in another upon the toiling poor as we view of the achievements of aggravated aggregated capital we discover the existence of trusts combinations and monopolies the citizen is struggling far in the rear or is trampled to death behind beneath an iron. corporations which should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law and the servants of the people are

fast becoming the people's masters. again that was eight hundred eighty eight two years after the first time the supreme court allegedly said corporations are people we've got to roll back this doctrine it was brought to us citizens united the most recent incarnation of it from the supreme court as i said in the legislature ever voted for it no president ever asked for it we need to amend the constitution and just remember that despair and disillusionment will not change anything in operatives paid is not an option we have to get active on this corporations are not people money is not speech moved to amend org so that to see how it can be done our next comment is from the message boards thom hartmann dot com last week i explained how the latest version of the senate democrats' jobs bill which included a want to add one percent surtax on income over a million dollars starting in january two thousand and thirteen we really only cost

the super rich pretty much enough that really will raise enough money over the next ten years to cover the thirty five billion dollars cost of hiring and retaining about four hundred thousand teachers and emergency responders. what president obama and what joe biden and what what the democrats are proposing is that somebody who makes a million dollars does not pay an extra penny of taxes on their first eighty five hundred dollars. they still pay only ten percent of that the opiate extra penny in taxes on their next thirty four thousand dollars they stood there and we pay fifteen percent on that so this is a marginal tax rates where they pay the same taxes as if somebody only made thirty four thousand up to thirty four thousand and are going to pay an extra penny on their first eighty three thousand dollars of the tax from thirty four thousand eighty three thousand and twenty three percent of it hundred seventy four thousand dollars and i don't pay extra penny on that i will be taxed at twenty eight percent from the hundred seventy four thousand three hundred seventy nine thousand dollars

that i pay an extra penny on that that would be taxed at thirty three percent and from three three hundred seventy nine thousand to a million dollars they're not going to pay an extra penny on bad either but if they made one extra thousand dollars or one hundred thousand dollars actually be ten more of these then they would pay five hundred bucks half a cookie actually not even that a fragment of. the trip. although not all the way down or cookie monster time when course there was unanimous opposition of the bill from republicans and senate and they succeeded in blocking the bill even though there was a majority they voted for scott wrote ridiculous that anyone would argue against fairness it's obvious they just want to bother to fail well scott here it is in the words of the top republican in the united states senate mitch mcconnell. our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny president obama a second term and our final comments tonight is again from the viewer rahm line

there it is i have been interested in trying to find out how i think you know that it's a compliment played on the seventh day about. occupy wall street group anonymous i thought it was real policy from and i'd like to see had can we get it five hundred. and share it with my theory and thank you. and case you missed it here's an excerpt from the video put out by anonymous last week that the caller was asking about pickle. st louis is it could be used to that the country was critical you saw that it was right for the taking and so you did you shouted the country and you connected to fragmented pieces to line your pockets we stand here united and strong for years. we stand by for your good ship you know if the u.s. trained house did you think that the people who would not come to know what you

have done you see before your trading screens for your analysis you are the plays of the game and you play very well here rigging the game even better you can't very little for the lives of average americans may have points but you have strongly misread the world complete lack of compassion for your fellow man has left you with a grave error the game is over when st for the full video and my thoughts are from the segment of the very picture that aired on october seventeenth are available over at the big picture youtube page under the heading anonymous produces your poetry pay attention that's what we call. and i agree that video should be shared far and wide anonymous has a message for wall street and we should all know it by heart that's it for your take my take on it if you like your comments and questions heard on the side of the big picture listen up we want to know your to separate your comments by visiting the marvin facebook page but twittering that tom underscore apartment or in the

chant room of the message board you through the blog at tom hartman dot com you can also leave a message on the ramp line at georgia by three six fifty three zero six agree disagree sound off it's all out of the remember that your comments may be used on the ear. imagine i can't sing you know some of the tribe. in a world without fox news it's easy if you try. the hacktivist group anonymous is allegedly planning to launch and it's happened the fox so-called news website taking it down on november fifth here's a video supposedly released by anonymous regarding their latest operation. for the sins of the world and the internet we are anonymous fox news is now a target of anonymous because of their continued propaganda against the occupation

anonymous introduces operation fox hunt i'm not i'm an intense and strong the fox news website because their continued right wing conservative propaganda and no longer be tolerated they use of words and filthy. and dirty can describe the protesters since they will not stop at the link the occupier we will findlay shut them down on nov fifth we're all we can know for sure if this is really anonymous or if the fox so-called news website will really be taken down but we can imagine your imagine what it would be like if there was no fox news in the world but it would be like if millions of americans went to work in the morning without listening to carlson kilmeade to see millions of americans beginning their days without fear of shari'a law and the new black panther party or the muslim

brotherhood or the millions more going to sleep without fear that president obama is proud shirts are coming to get them as sean hannity is worried if there was no fox news millionaires would just be called millionaires and not job creators christmas would come and go without anyone saying a war has been declared on it and a world without fox news ron paul might actually have a chance to win the republican nomination. no fox news means no job for sarah palin and has no jobs riding around the country in the american dream flag plus. is the price of gold plummets as do sales of survival kits as does tea party rally attendance thirty down pretty bad dropping from about four people maybe down to two because without fox news there really isn't

a tea party imagine there's no fox news and suddenly occupy wall street is a legitimate organization with clear goals and grassroots support john lennon says imagine there is no war well without fox news is constant drumbeat there may not be a war after all a world without fox news is a world that is clearly warming up as a result of manmade carbon pollution and a world where america is leading the way and doing something about it it's a world free from government death panels and it's a world where wall street is to blame for the fourth financial crisis by by fox news means by by two zero zero obama czars and slanderous scandals a bye bye to bill ayres no fox news means no t.v. shows for future republican presidential candidates or cheating governors or little

obsessed egomaniacs or rather gate felons or gambling addicted or allies or. no fox news means no g.o.p. t.v. the name the roger and ailes and vision when he wrote a memo to richard nixon nixon's chief of staff in the early so seventy's suggesting the administration invest in creating a television channel to put forward republican talking points under the guise of news. i world without fox news is frankly a better world it's a world where voters will hit the polls next year without being frightened by spin doctors like frank luntz unfortunately that's not the world we live it even if anonymous shuts down part so-called news as website on november fifth it will only be temporary and the t.v. talking heads will continue anyway but for one day maybe just one day

a fox news less world could exist and will remember what it was like before bill o'reilly told us how to think before fox and friends told us what to be afraid of and before hannity told us what it means to be an american and we'll all wait up on november sixth right back into a world with news i decide to turn the channel some may say i'm a dreamer but i'm not the only one. as the big picture first night. for more information on the stories we covered visit our website it's all part of free speech dot org and archie dot com you can also check out a two liter channels there are links at tom our. entire show is also available as a free video podcast on i tunes and we have a free tom hartman i phone and i pad apps at the app store is going to speed back to twitter a tom underscore on facebook atomosphere. blogs message boards and telephone

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