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the border with. this comes as relatives of the slain have been the that so so the hague to bring a war crimes will suit against nato as their lives troops to liberty strike. which they say pose no threat to civilians now if it was only allowed into libya by the u.n. solely to protect citizens well nato has postponed its early decision meantime to two ended so maybe admission by the end of the month the coals from the interim government to stay on and those of his illness and now if found gadhafi is death isn't making the country any safer right now either. one of the major concerns here are light weapons fire arms that are massively in the hands of the population here there are efforts from the end to see to try to collect and get people to willingly disarm and bring their weapons back but so far it doesn't look like that idea is working out we went to one collection center if you will yesterday it covers an area of tripoli and for the entire day only about ten or twelve a k forty seven
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type had been returned just to give you an idea of what that number means walking down one or two blocks here in the capital you can see maybe two times or three times more that amount of automatic weapons being waved around but even more serious concerns here in terms of security about weapons storage arsenals unguarded warehouses full of weapons what happens if those weapons get into the wrong hands already human rights watch has expressed grave concern about ground to air missiles that could essentially hit civilian aircraft if they get into the wrong hands of the security situation here very very sensitive not just recently some three hundred people were found murdered in sirte with their hands tied behind their back that is sparking accusations of political executions which is exactly what these former rebels were fighting against another thing that they just stinks if you will of hypocrisy of course is the way they put down he was killed i mean we saw. the
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brutal gruesome footage that went viral the whole world watched including of course libyans here and although of lot of the things you're seeing in the mass media is people just full of elation that gadhafi is dead that dead when you go out and speak to people and you push them a little bit you do find that there are a lot of people here that are husband trying to express just just horrible feelings about the way he was killed not to mention the fact that he was of course buried forty two muslim tradition he was put on display for days and only after thousands of people came to see him was he finally very to so it's not exactly as it seems from afar what people feel about gadhafi how we come here and actually start talking to them that however not the case in the last three how some people very outspoken and happy about the way gadhafi was killed especially the mass media experts are telling us that's because gadhafi with him to the grave took many of his secrets of dealings with the west was nyssa were saying that the true nature of
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gadhafi is relations with western leaders has led to uncomfortable questions for some lists it's his son from islam who could blow the lid now on allegedly. if he gets to beg. well some of the details have already come to light they found documents on the floor of the british embassy in the abandoned british embassy in tripoli which will close relations between britain and gadhafi before before the war started of course we're going to have a lot saif is going to have a lot information on that i think was so eve that tony blair intervened formed to help him get his dodgy ph d. degree from the london school of economics when that degree apparently was plagiarized there's a lot of things that have gone on that so you feel gadhafi knows about but the thing is this the people who really want to kill gadhafi are the families the enemies in the sea is simply the heir of. law of tribal revenge to gadhafi clan did terrible things to people living here and now these families want revenge and
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that's simply their way of life their independent journalist steve brown told me a bit earlier on those gruesome images of gadhafi is launching lynching rather were met with cheers and applause in america's mainstream media which was quick to herald his demise is the dawning of a new libya of his going to cannes been finding out where the dancing on gadhafi is grave was justified. it started with cheer outside and. the joy of killing the african leaders spread like wildfire in the us media it was just a trillion dollars to get saddam and a billion dollars to get gadhafi in libya says they're going to pay back the billion that we spent to so it's going to end up being sort of free for free for nothing so let's get in on the ground there's a lot of money to be made in the future in libya there's a lot all to be produced no american soldier killed probably greater opportunities ahead seems like the perfect new more favorable one that's meant to be a lesson to others i think it sends of an important message to other leaders in the
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region but i tell you that these are big traders they are not very original just like saddam hussein caught amid a whole new market da he was a bad guy otoh many of us would argue how bad he was for them considering what they don't people don't see the welfare and rights but nothing beyond of the us audience as presented by the media he was the all too much evil it's a demonization every step of the way against gadhafi in the media today always one one man becomes a justification one leader of a country becomes a justification for destroying an entire country. for a few days the media savored the bloody music. and laughed at similarities between his character in a ditch and out of saddam hussein all the cheering about his killing in the eye of the public effectively a raises the bad taste after nato campaign no mention of libyan civilians killed in nato strikes not much talk about the destruction in the country caused by those
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strikes and his killing is presented as a triumph a triumph which can create a perception that somehow it's perfectly ok to invade a country and help its leaders be linked but if it's presented to such a success doesn't it become more tempting to try the same method somewhere else i'm going to check on reporting from washington. part of the thing with some of the news stories now police in oakland have violent disperse and occupy wall street protests in the city arresting around one hundred people one of the protesters a two term iraq war veteran scott olsen is now in critical condition after being hit by a police project is more important is following those developments for us. the scene that transpired on folding in oakland california is arguably the most violent scene we have seen thus far between us police officers and activist activists taking part in the occupy wall street movement police had fired tear gas flash
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grenades and rubber bullets at protesters hitting one man in the face with a rubber bullets and now this was all taking place and unfolding as about three hundred fifty occupy activists did not want to leave the camp grounds that they established weeks ago in front of city hall in oakland and the police in oakland california were removing that were trying to remove them and told them they could not be there about three hundred fifty activists have set up camp there five hundred riot police reportedly went to the scene and not when the clash took place it is being reported that police had fired off tear gas four different times now another man aside from the one that was hit in the face with a rubber bullet was caught in a cloud of tear gas this man was in a wheelchair and from what images show police police kept. lobbying canisters at
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him police were also seen throwing flash grenades right into a group of people that were trying to help and injured woman clearly as you mentioned this is just the latest kind of incident clash between police officers and these activists a lot of police officers in new york city and throughout the country have been accused in criticized of using rebel force against u.s. citizens that are just trying to authorize and use their freedom of speech now police officials say they had no choice but to use these heavy handed tactics with the protesters they said some of the protesters began throwing rocks and bottles. at police officers city officials say two police men were injured in the clash that unfolded tuesday morning in oakland california but if it's going to be the last one many people highly doubt it because as party's been reporting the occupy wall street movement has been growing louder has been growing bigger and has been
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gaining a lot of support of his correspondent in new york city one important spoke to independent journalist josh wolfe who witnessed the crackdown on protesters in oakland himself he told us the police like an occupying force from outside the area i think that any time the people demonstrate that they have power the. city government is fearful of that i mean we live in a democracy supposedly but when the people come together in rallies and demonstrations we always are frequently see that men with a very strong arm of the law are and this is no exception this was a case where people had held his ground two weeks spreading all across the country and suddenly the government is seeing it as a threat and government is stepping in to shut it down most of the officers in oakland don't live anywhere near the city they don't relate to the people as if they're their neighbors they relate to govern as if this is some outside city that they're there trying to keep the people from overtaking the city is oftentimes the
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perspective that i hear when talking to police and so there really isn't a feeling of community between the police and the residents it really does feel like a different kind of occupation of the police are trying the city and we're seeing this in many cities around the bay or in the country eurozone leaders are back around the table to try and wrestle a solution to the region's debt plight seen by many as their last chance now and it's the banks it seems that are going to be the first in line to bear the brunt done you'll bushell is across the latest these are your performance in brussels monitoring events and indeed the midnight oil up by the talks going on into the night. you know we've been given a copy of the e.u. leaders statement which says that by june next year banks will have to raise the amount of capital european banks will have to raise their reserves to cover any risky investments such as greeks greece the greek prime minister has spoken to reporters here saying that greece has made
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a superhuman effort to make its economy viable but the odds of still increasing toughens will have to quit the euro on the fears that is still increasing the e.u. bailout fund has also been increased they won't say till november by how much it's really is the country that's really in the firing line it's released a letter of intent here at the summit silvio berlusconi promises to increase italy's pension age to sixty seven they're also cutting back on job protection measures and also raising around five billion euros by selling state assets wasn't easy it took the prime minister's offer of resignation to get this deal through the italian parliament there were fifty points today in the parliament it had to be suspended and it's unleashed temporarily because many are opposed to a new round of austerity measures that are being demanded by brussels back to this summit focusing in on some of the may know people that are watching reports throughout the day don't move to some of the leaders going to that summit appeared
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to be more downbeat than usual what we read into that. yes the move isn't good because we're not expecting the comprehensive deal that was promised by angela merkel today we were expecting. really this all to be tied up by today but now we're expecting at best a framework deal which will reveal what will happen in the future if the e.u. leaders can resolve their differences of course france wants a much larger bailout port there's talk of france actually being one of the countries that will need potentially in the future that bailout one italian politician said they won't take any lectures from nicolas sarkozy of france because the french economy is in as italy according to that politician germany is more against more bailouts many of the more financially prudent e.u. members so angular merkel was very downbeat arriving today he's usually quite enthusiastic nicolas sarkozy also arriving usually speaks to reporters he brushed past them today the talks all respected to run over time some say in
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a mine may now last days we expect a statement by the e.u. chiefs tomorrow morning on what they've achieved so far the chance that the darling says the e.u. leaders should look themselves into this building the e.u. commission building here in brussels on till they come up with a solution because there are fears that there will be a continuation of the global stock market collapse we saw another poor day today and there are fears that if they come up with something short of a comprehensive deal to tell the problems of the european union investors will get even more concerned tomorrow ok we're very much across this story with your help our europe correspondent daniel bushell thanks for the latest there from brussels. well but earlier i spoke to dr marcus kirby political economy professor and he told me that the majority of germans did not agree with their government's policy towards greece right. i have always hoped that germany sooner or later is going to wield the power to bring the continent to back to economic reason because we are in
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a phase of the euro agonizing and if certain concept is agonizing you should bring it quickly to an end the money we have spent on greece is lost money and we know this i have said this in spring two thousand and ten we should have kept squeeze out of the eurozone from the very beginning of the crisis to stop contagion eighty five percent of the germans disapprove the government's bailout policy and sooner or later that massive popular opposition has to be faced by the german parliament they have to pay tribute to that they cannot go on pursuing a policy which has turned out to be failing the economic success of germany is not at all due to the year of the people who say this have not read the figures i was going to say one of the ironies doctors of the greek army currently feels almost as many german battle tanks are germany itself talking about the way that germany has benefited from having people like i have to tell you with
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a. place i have to cut you short there. and i must remind you of the fact that france is now delivering friday gates for almost nothing to greece and added a moment where greece is actually in a situation of default so what is scandalising many many years ago greece has been receiving german tanks as an ally turkey to receive german tanks but then now in the period of deep crisis of greek crisis france continues to deliver frei gates to greece. thoughts that of dr markus kerber speaking to me earlier on. american british police have been demanding google removes a number of videos of police brutality from you tube according to a transparency report published by the web giant the number of such requests is increased sharply this year internet piracy and civil liberty campaigner jim killick told me that it's for the courts though to decide what can or can't go online and open courts can look at the material
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the media can report what's going on and if material is asked to be removed at least that is done in a publicly accountable way the problem comes i think in the situation we see now here with google is that the police are advising google here's what material might be breaking the law and then google decides to censor that material without a court order you can sort of understand that on the one hand because you tube is a it's a platform and a site it's not a search engine but really it is working in exactly the same way it's a public platform for us all to use and it is wrong for google to start making those judgments without the appearance of a court to an eighteen moscow time back for a minute or two to one of our top stories tonight the occupy wall street protests come from all walks of life people whose lives have been turned upside down by
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a recession they blame on financial fat cats in the church one of the. from riches to rags an american fairy tale gone sour eric smith walks by a luxurious manhattan hotel the chef here for six years he whipped up posh meals for the rich and famous we did banquets for five thousand. we did parties for the past three presidents there are some really high end stuff the recession changed everything today eric is jobless and broke after being laid off or non collecting unemployment which is. about three months his ingredients have changed to we worked with a lot of high and. now it's lettuce and tomatoes for simple vegetable brought in a brooklyn soup kitchen where he volunteers as one of the cooks for occupy wall street protests the thirty eight year old detroit native dreams of starting his own business a taco truck but doesn't have the money you know it's been
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a struggle. has made me think about how other people are struggling even more than myself the realisation that one in six americans are living in poverty. has led eric to the occupy wall street protests calling for change i've seen it just go from bad to worse to even worse and that's really happening all over the country no food he and other volunteers cook at the soup kitchen chairs everybody in the revolution. gets delivered to the protesters who spend day and night camping out hour to eric also sleeps here at the end of the night when there's a lot of people here i'll go to the comfort zone and buy myself a sleeping bag right on the ground usually even though the chef is penniless in this revolution he says he's been waiting for it his entire life cooking for rich fact cats in manhattan and trying to get their food out as fast as possible and
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make sure it's all perfect for the porn and the rich. greater than that i always felt that it was well this was a this is something that's really going to make a difference in a good job and even though life is tougher than ever before eric says he would not choose to be anywhere else but here from relatively well off to flat out broke is not an exceptional biography to have in the west these days eric story is one of millions but he is one of only hundreds that have found their way from here so far is that if you're going to our chief new york. well thanks for watching us tonight here are. a couple of minutes for you but before that we've got an interview with the british. cars we're looking at the difficulties the e.u. faces what he thinks the role should be from now on.
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i'm in manchester with douglas cause well he's a conservative member of parliament he said the political system in this country is broken and in urgent need of reform he's also a renowned euro skeptic douglas carswell thanks for talking to us we use this catch all term skeptic what does that mean old style euro skepticism in this country used to be about trying to take this country back it used to be an inherently conservative movement that was about trying to take us back to a sort of one nine hundred fifty s. status quo i don't have much truck with that at all i mean you're
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a skeptic because i want change and i want to really change the way this country is run i think fundamentally europe is in the mess that she is today because she's trying to do too much by conscious deliberate design the currency is a mess because it's a product of conscious design agricultural policy or fisheries policy trade policy you know we need to let go and we need to allow the different parts of the european continent to do what suits them best incidentally i would say that that's why the european continent groups are global. moments in the first place it's precisely because we never had the political centralization that russia had that china had for the mogul empire had that the ottomans had that europe was allowed to prosper in the first place so we need a decentralized europe and i'm afraid i think that means rejecting the whole e.u. project completely so you think that person should leave the direction we should have an in out referendum and i would vote for us to come out of the european union
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the european union a nine hundred fifty s. political structure it's an outdated architecture for a modern continent. when we joined the european union or what became the european union in the early one nine hundred seventy s. western europe at that time accounted for thirty six percent of global g.d.p. today the european continent accounts for far less than that by twenty twenty it would account for a mere fifteen percent of global g.d.p. we joined what we thought was a prosperous trade bloc it turns out we shackle sells to a corpse i think we're better off when you talk about an in out referendum but isn't there a middle way where we have a trade relationship with europe that without any of the politics involved in effect if we hadn't in our referendum and most people voted for asked to leave the european project as it is we know that the european landmass would still be there we would still have people with whom we want to be good neighbors personally i
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would like us to continue to have the free trade and the free movement of people between our countries we would still have to cooperate but i think that can best be done through bilateral structures or by ad hoc arrangements. i would personally like us to stop being rather grudging tenants in the european. apartment and become good neighbors to the european countries that are next to us we need good relations with continental europe but we're not getting them by being in. in this one nine hundred fifty s. apartment block despite the fact that u.k. didn't actually join the british taxpayers is still covering the currency to the billions of pounds is that wrong it's absolutely wrong you know we have found ourselves in the ludicrous position of having to bail out a currency that we chose not to join and i think it's wrong for ass to have increased british liabilities to over twenty billion to prop up
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a currency that i think needs to be allowed to break up you know. within europe within recent years we have allowed you can't just be creative when slovakia broke away from the czech republic they did so very simply by creating a new currency in argentina. the u.s. dollar turned out to be a disastrous mistake brought about by politicians in desires when eventually they had to break that link they were able to devalue their current c. default on their debts and start again and as a result of that both slovakia and argentina are doing pretty well that i think is the answer for greece for portugal for ireland probably for spain and for italy another way perhaps of looking at it is that maybe the german center of the euro zone should be allowed to establish its own currency whichever way you look at it it involves breaking up the euro and greece has recently said admitted really that it's not going to be able to meet its debt obligations certainly for the next year and possibly for two years under current circumstances how much the british banks
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stand to lose in greece portugal and ireland well british banks are liable for quite a lot of money billions of pounds at least that used to be regarded as quite a lot of money until our government started printing it but you know. the case the british banks are going to take a hit and they're going to take a hit not because of some abstract problem in the eurozone they're going to take a hit because their investment teams on their fixed income debts bought. greek and portuguese and other government debt that they regarded as fixed income but turned out to. a really bad investment now when my constituents buy shares in a company that's badly run and lose money the government doesn't step in and on the right so i'm very very concerned that taxpayers in my constituency will be to bail out banks that brought this upon themselves now if if it is the case that we are going to prop up some of these banks because these banks have been so badly run such victims of that unless we do so our economy will disintegrate thank you very
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much thank you. for sure is that so much. that you are. the taliban bad guy is specious libya's national transitional council has announced the country's liberation from the gadhafi dictatorship what kind of country. wealthy british. market. happening to the global economy with. no holds barred look at the global financial headlines.
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grappling negotiations over the book debt crisis banks will have to raise more capital and are expected to have to write off an even bigger chunk of the money which greece owes the. police in oakland california used tear gas and platinum rounds to disperse peaceful and all three protesters to nearly one hundred activists at the time to one of the protesters a two time iraq war veteran scott olsen is in critical condition after being hit by a projectile fired by police. and lama gadhafi is most prominent son saif al islam is reportedly ready to surrender to the war crimes court while the dead former leaders relatives what are seeing nato at that. one thirty one am moscow time next cross-talk where people are says guess what awaits post gadhafi libya now following that nato backed rebellion.
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