free. education free. for three. three. three. three. three. video for your media talk radio john darche talk to tom. kaiser this is the kaiser report well we've done it again last another viral global . stacey her birth max first there was g.i.

joe then there was crash j.p. morgan by silver and now there is david cameron s t f u incredible this is gone global tell us more well first let's look at this headline here from nicholas our cozy tells david cameron shut up over the euro he bluntly told cameron apparently at some staged events for the eurozone crisis and he said you have lost a good opportunity to shut up and stop talking about the euro but i want to turn back to two months ago this little clip here that has been turned into a music video from kaiser report. that is a snappy and you know the thing. herbert is that david cameron is just an easy guy

to kick you know because he he has a look of the of us a positive or a does there any just mallows these plotted to do this and of dying claptrap down there the house of commons you know he just has a big fish on the back of his shirt like on april fool's day like kick me kick me this is breaking to be kicked and how are these not clowns running the world and i have another headline here to show that every time these clowns me they get into all sorts of buffoonery spat erupts between france italy over be nice maggie e.c.b. seat well yeah apparently berlusconi's me don't want to leave the e.c.b. even though they promised cozy that if he supported mario draghi as the head of the e.c.b. that he could get one of his french buddies in there into one of these cushy civil servant jobs that get to dictate to the world what where our economic policies will be well apparently now this guy had been he smile you won't leave so anyway

berlusconi ended up saying at a certain point i asked our cozy what should i do kill him. nice well you know i was reading the currency wars going to buy james our records and he makes a fantastic james g. records yeah and he makes a fantastic point james g. records as i write yes the year that the relationship between france and italy in the cross sovereign wealth bond. race to see who's the most vulnerable is between france and italy apparently france oh it's half a trillion in italian sovereign debt so as you see this on winding of the eurozone all these banks are collapsing in the euro zone because of their overextension by each other's debt in this huge ponzi scheme the siege d.z. chain of fraud that one relationship if that blows that's really the most

spectacular is the france italy well that's a good point max because they're fighting over who should be running the at e.c. b. and the e.c.b. is the one doling out on behalf of the taxpayers mostly of germany but all of europe that the bailout funds for the banks of certain countries favored countries so i guess maybe sarkozy and berlusconi are fighting over which banks which national banks what is it going to be b.m.p. perry about stock down in france or is it going to be unit credit that gets the ultimate bailout from the f.s.f. in a fine may digress again briefly i was listening to ben davies who's been a guest on our show and he's being interviewed by eric king over there to world this and he was talking about the are paying for civility this new fund there being there are ramping it up there inflating the balloon by creating this wrap around. insurance products which is similar to the model line insurance industry in the united states which famously blew up just before the two thousand and seven two

thousand and eight crisis so what they're doing is they are creating another trollish multi tens of trillions probably hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of completely unplayable insurance fake virtual insurance products that they are going to collateralize the one or two trillion in new credit facility and then call it's a that is good for twenty or thirty trillion based on the thirty trillion of insurance that they just wrote clear here's thirty trillion in. assurance that's about as valuable as that is as we saw from the two thousand and seven of two thousand and eight period so this is a whole gram wrapped in a kind. inserted into an illusion well it's all at the heart of it right now is greece of course and because we only have clowns at the center look at this headline max is greece a failed state. and i want to answer that from ryan granny and this image here you

see right granny well i think she's saying no greece is not a failed state it's an occupied state because they're not asking this question about iceland are they now because iceland stood up to the bankers whereas greece is still being subjugated by the tyranny of the bankers and there's granny here who you see throwing rocks the police she's a good emblem for what the cops out of the store for them and the politicians agree says the things heat up in greece hopefully the banks in greece will completely collapse and this will be the only saving grace for greek sovereignty well this granny is throwing rocks at the police because not only has her pension from been depleted by the bankers in italy and france but joblessness is particularly hammering greek youth an astounding forty two percent of people between the ages of fifteen and twenty four are without work double the level from three years ago

before the troika came to rescue the people of greece oh well they are consigning this whole generation to the dustbin of history basically they want to push him onto reservations this is the model they want to they hope that these people become drug addicts and kill themselves that's the. solution to the unemployment problem the final solution they where i heard that before and you know you mentioned all of this fake debt and leverage that that is one of the solutions being offered up but in the article they say meanwhile worries are spiraling that greece may eventually default indeed some experts believe default is inevitable they're already default it. but they're maintaining an illusion that they have a default to and they're using that period between recognition and reality to impose austerity measures to steal all the assets greek sovereignty and then max also from greece this is from a football game this past weekend has. underscore panuco from greece and you see

this big banner hanging across there it says corrupt politicians ensconced parliament you will drown under the anger of the uprising so i was treated this at stacey herbert you can tweet me there oh oh you know twitter trying to get more followers than our own twitter so after the soccer game apparently the police started searching vehicles leaving the soccer stadium to find who posted this banner riot police also came and once they had identified the vehicle carrying the banner they started beating people randomly the police finally arrested the passengers of the vehicle carrying the banner without giving a reason for their arrest the hash tag means the banner in greek well this is an interesting development in the information war because they're using the mass media that does pay attention to a football game to put a subliminal message on the television which gets picked up by twitter that uses

the hash tag nomenclature to communicate to the global masses which then fed back into a police action so i see this as a very encouraging sign that's right now max i also started at the top of the show i mentioned khadafi being killed now here some post mortem propaganda how convenient it is for him to be disposed of could also be worth more than bill gates warren buffett and carlos slim combined yes you ninety nine percent of america and nato are acting on your behalf getting rid of the top one percent well this is where gadhafi got it wrong you know he should have simply opened a bank because the two hundred billion is tier one capital this is the highest grade capital you could have and he could have levers up by ten to twenty times and created a bank facility large enough to buy j.p. morgan by goldman sachs by approaching half the way and fire all those crooks yeah but it's also propaganda because look. at this he's there saying according to the

article most of the money of that two hundred billion was under the name of government institutions such as the central bank of libya the libyan investment authority the libyan foreign bank the libyan national oil corporation and the libya african investment portfolio so is national wealth it was a national institutions but they're adding it to his wealth yeah well that's correct and this is where again gadhafi could simply instead of allowing tony blair come in to advise on how to invest this money as he did which was the start of his downfall because he let a true terrorist in the country tony blair he should have really just picked up a book by somebody who knows what they're talking about and figured out that he could to leverage the sovereign wealth fund of libya to ten to twenty times of size and taken over all these crooked banks in the west and you know basically done a leveraged buyout of the west that would've been great for africa here but this is the thing max is like we are run in the west by addicts because they're looking at

this and saying oh my god could go off he had two hundred billion in cash that's thirty thousand per citizen well look at the us we have only debt per citizen is it any different that our military industrial complex and our financial industrial complex and our prison industrial complex and our drug war complex has added what is like three hundred thousand debt per u.s. citizen that means their futures are collateralized and sold already at least the libyan people can just top off the head of their dictator and take the cash well stacy herbert this goes back to the war of savers versus speculators gadaffi was a saver he had stuff he had cash he also must be honest shariah law is favors. banking activity he had banned sariah law and it's now been reintroduced by the national transition council really how do you make so much money it was just

through the oil. they have light sweet crude why do you think they're max so he had oil yeah now they've got your aisle all right they're banning predatory lending they're banning usury and that's ultimately the conflict between libya muslim islam and the west is this propensity and islam not to give into ponzi schemes well and speaking of ponzi schemes under colonel qadhafi they were partially occupied in libya by j.p. morgan and i want to show you this little video i made of a screen grab from j.p. morgan dot com this past weekend when you see here they were occupied by some shouting. there's some funny little down there yes well dr pyne movement which is you know we come in the wake of the global insurrection against banker occupation the chapter in london occupy london is now merging or getting together with u.k. uncut to stage an event so you see now that they're starting to be exactly what i

said must happen there needs to be economies of scale have to kick in these groups have to begin figure out ways how they can act together to leverage their global presence but ultimately they will all come together and they are in the occupying money of movement right somebody has started the occupy money paid with silver to beat the banks they're saying stop using dollars and you silver all of the occupy movements are heading toward occupy money and using silver instead thank you stacey over pink you say there don't go away we'll be right back. you know sometimes you see the story and the sick so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't. charge is a big. i

am max caster welcome back to the kaiser report time now to go to new york and speak with the thomas jefferson of the internet john perry barlow barlow is an essayist songwriter founding member of the electronic frontier foundation he was also a rancher for nearly twenty years john perry barlow welcome to the kaiser report. all right. john perry barlow you were on cross talk recently this this way talking about occupy wall street but i want to follow up specifically on the group called anonymous not many people talk about their involvement but what do you think of anonymous as an activist group i think it's a very interesting and new form of activist groups i mean they are anonymous even though i have an awful lot of. discourse with them or if i haven't

actually physically met any of them and at the same time i find that they are showing admirable restraint given who they are as far as i can tell and how they feel about things i think they are and they're a hugely supportive force for the occupy movement and i think that they're ready willing and able to. punish the institutions that they i think legitimately feel are overreaching so far they haven't been engaging in the sorts of things that scare those institutions which would be wanton bad. it was a more were completely unjustified assault all right john perry barlow we're seeing something i guess you could call it financial activism it's something new i think especially in this day of the internet and in fact connectedness in the global economy and we're seeing it with things like people pulling money out of the bank we saw this in france

a few months ago people again are talking about pulling money out of certain banks people are talking about we had a campaign crash j.p. morgan by silver for example as a way to be capitalized a lot of the derivatives that make up the balance sheets of these banks it is financial activism is this something that the people at the occupy wall street who are certainly sitting there for the stock exchange do they have enough of a. grounding in how these things work to launch a financial campaign doesn't matter i guess my question is they're sitting there for the new york stock exchange so how do they leverage what they what they believe in to something that's going to affect the floor of the new york stock exchange i mean look most of the people in the occupy movement are broke. in fact an awful lot of people are broken and if the folks that are upset about the banks always through their money it wouldn't change things a great deal what has to happen is that the people who are in the one percent have to develop an awareness of the unhealthiness of the current financial structure and

start to make decisions with the money that they have that they've managed in i think that's starting to happen i think i was writing on an airplane day before yesterday where the guy who is on the board of directors of one of the big pharma companies and you would think a natural enemy and he said something very interesting he said i i am very concerned about the concentration of wealth even though i'm part of the problem. and i don't know what to do about it from my position i feel like a single cell inside a tumor i mean one cancer cell can change the whole tumor i think it would know for those cancer. your cells start to change the tumor then we can address this but but the first order of business is that everybody start to understand the extent to which there is this plutocratic concentration so that we can collectively as a society do something about it that's never going to happen you know i worked on wall street for many years the mentality there is pathological and it's never going

to give anything back and of course throughout history i'm not counting on their conscience counting on their sense of practicality i mean you know if they start to feel like the banks are not safe. are not supported they're going to they're going to put their money someplace else they're going to change the things they do i'm not counting on their on their being anything but sociopaths down there and understood but you know it's faced with a similar circumstance as the past for example let's say gandhi in india you know classically taking the poverty stricken indians who had no money but he figured out that if you could sort of boycott and do is to keep your plate you could take out an empire m r luther king similarly if you boycott the bosses you change the dynamic of the political and economic and what's going on in that region so that boycotters that no money the psychopaths that run the show have no morals and i want some i would also posit that they border on suicide banking where they are

willing to kill themselves with their practices they can't even rely on them being rational in any sense of the word so what can the occupy movement do taking advantage of the economies of their size of their movement something along that boycott path that's going to push back in some meaningful way if you have any thoughts on this john i don't think we know that yet i mean one of the things that the occupy movement is being wise and doing is not suddenly grabbing on to some ideological solution. for a problem we don't yet know how to solve the first order of business is that as many people. and institutions as possible recognize that it is a problem fundamentally an illness that what we have here is a cancer on the economy that has to get dealt with by everybody and then i think we can start to put in the fine grain correctives and regulatory measures and those kinds of things that will make a difference i mean i think it's

a very difficult problem to solve but the first order of business as i say is to is to recognize that we have it in the first place in london it's just been reported that a one group u.k. uncut that's been very active in pushing back against predatory corporations in the u.k. is now joining forces with occupy london to launch a campaign to see a future in having groups come together across the spectrum to increase their size oh absolutely i think one of the problems that we've got with the occupy movement right now is that it's somewhat monochromatic it's a little too young it's a little too long haired it's a little too academic in that in the humanities it's you know it doesn't have enough enough guys with with thick necks and broad broad arms that it doesn't have enough of the the ordinary folks that are in real trouble and one of the biggest things that has to happen the really important thing that has to happen is we have to figure out some way to help the folks understand who are in that that you know

what they call the fifty three percent the the lower middle class people who are paying taxes and are are actually directly serving the one percent and the concentration of wealth in their practices bet it is not sufficient for them to just be above the bottom rung because i mean i think that the story disciplines to the soul sold by fox and and other networks abroad is that you know the important thing is for you to keep the lower lower class below you and. not to not to come up with a way to spread the economic wealth throughout this is it's simply toxic for an economy to have this kind of concentration the whole infrastructure starts to fail and that's what's going on here very rapidly all right time for a while you're also on the board of directors of the electronic freedom front there and you one of the organizers of that this came all around at about the same time

as an explosion and open source software the collaborative efforts online where people were working together not for pay and not in any capitalist as the word but to to create a better environment to create a better digital environment there was a self-interest in creating a better environment against the opposing view of things which i guess you could say was more of the microsoft view of things but this open source tech mentality which is really digital really purely online in nature and this spill over into the general economy in some way and people's day to day lives oh i think it already has in quite a few ways you know it's not a matter of not getting paid it's a matter of how you get paid and how you how you think of value the problem is that we have printed toward a society where value is only majored in the things that you can count. and primarily monetary things the internet got built by people who were willing to

retrieve their value in a lot of more intangible ways and i wouldn't say that the open source movement was about not getting paid it was about getting paid in the environment but it was also about getting paid later for what you were doing for free today it's kind of like the way in which the grateful dead for whom i wrote songs for many years. recognize that if we gave our songs away that would be great marketing so we ended up you know it for quite a while the most popular performing band in the united states in spite of the. and we let everybody taper concerts we essentially were inventing viral marketing in the music business the same thing applies in the open source movement in general ok so john perry barlow you wouldn't call yourself an say capitalist at the grateful dead weight you so therefore why why do people call this movement anti-capitalist it doesn't seem to fit well i think that the problem is that we have we have very

loaded terms when we say capitalist or or say communist there are ways in which the internet the the real economy of the internet has been communist like. from the very beginning but i wouldn't use that term just because it immediately summons up the soviet union in leninism and stalin ism in maoism and all of the misuses of marches and i actually think that there are at the heart of marxism. you will find the evolutionary processes that are actually coming to bear on the internet where property is increasingly considered the wrong way to mediate human and economic interaction where we're people know that it's about service it's not about ownership and people recognize that they are the means of production themselves you know i think the things within the occupy movement and cultural

manifestations out in the in the general population whether it's burning man or the festival culture where people of the younger generation are much more into sharing then they have been in the past much more into. recognizing that there are many values that can't be measured entirely monetary really and i think you know those evolutionary processes are slow but they're taking place capitalism is just the operation of a free market and i think that free markets are great but we've been selling this free market notion. the united states anyway as the be all and the end all solution and it is i would say a natural system that works very well as long as it's a free market but the problem is that free markets only exist until you have the monopolistic concentration that naturally comes out of a completely unregulated free market and then you don't have

a free market anymore then the monopoly controls the market so what we have to do is to is to figure out ways to stop the monopoly so that the market actually is free right so if this is really about the very phrase itself too big to fail implies a monopoly position at a concentration of wealth that's inconsistent with a free market approach so people who call this anti-capitalist are really missing the boat all right john perry barlow i don't like to go on but that's all the time we have thanks so much for being on the kaiser report yeah happy to be here and that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser a car with me nice geyser and stacy everett our thanks i guess john perry barlow if you want to follow me on twitter please do at twitter dot com slash max keiser or stacy herbert and slash stacy herbert or you can follow us on facebook at facebook dot com slash kaiser report as well as time e-mail please do so at kaiser report at artsy t.v. dot are you it's a lifetime as the mass guys are saying. the

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