and dismantle that in order to concentrate control on the fund if the institutions are walsh even thank you so much part of what we need to do is simply rewind thank you thank you so much for your work as the launch of the community thank you so much for being with the search and i did i'm sorry to cut you off but we're out of time to watch this conversation again as well as other conversations of great minds go to our website conversations in great nights dot com. are you scorecards ready when we come back my panel and i will take on this week's major headlines in the big picture rather you don't want to miss this. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through get through and be made who can you trust no one who is in view with the global machinery to see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.

are you ready to rumble joining me this week for the big picture rommel our derek cutter columnist for townhall dot com and contributing writer at both big government dot com and the daily caller you know eyes are burning reporter for think progress and biz colonnade senior i am online editor at the daily caller let's get started. occupy oakland demonstrator and two time iraq war veteran

scuttles he's now awake he's having trouble speaking and writing early hopefully some short term brain damage i mean hopefully short term as you understand and why are police forces using what may well be deadly force to stop. these protesters first of all it wasn't shot with a bullet it was shot with a tear allegedly hit with a tear gas canister we've seen i've seen the video you can't guarantee that i can't see what happened in that video but. it wasn't like they have to shoot somebody it was an accident if it happened the way that they say so and you know you can't say if you're going to paris tear gas you know i have and i'll tell you it's violence it's like. the first the crowd and. and i would like what i did was much for the beat up and i have to tear gas they spent hours trying to tell him how easily you got your reasoning out of mars you were a little question is when did the constitution change the first amendment of the

constitution says there are we have an absolute right to assemble peaceably and petition our government for redress of rights and the left will constantly tell you that lobbying is evil but you just said that we have a constitutional right to do it that is that's beside the point that is you know using these assemblies to his camp in a park indefinitely how can you who are to say that because where has it ever been done where and where is it undone what is certain seven hundred seventy three it started seven hundred seventy three and then was it woodrow wilson that there was and we know it was herbert hoover who was a was that all of us are made on god to a revolution a red led to the revolution of franklin roosevelt but let's get some of it will i mean i'm not going to get into a debate over who's at fault here because you know derek's right that we don't know the full facts of what happened it really bothers me you know scott olsen's a hero this is a marine he served his country but the cops who were involved in this these are people who lay there who lay their lives on the line every. a single day and i hate

to see this dispute breaking out between the wall street protesters the ninety nine percent protesters and the police because at the same time when these cops are going to work every day to go where they're told they protect us and they put themselves in harm's way the republicans are calling those budgets those cops are getting laid off they're losing their right to unionize they're losing their benefits and so these two people the protesters and the cops are fundamentally on the same teenager at zero as the patriots and their heroes and the mayor of oakland is now walking back really fast because she's the one who has actually has the decision making power the police do it yeah and i mean i don't i don't know if that was a good or a bad decision on her part i know that from the perspective of going to lose her job from the perspective of what ian had to say i think he's right i think that this movement and i mean even here in your interest kind of characterized as some sort of this incident rather as some sort of police violence and i think there would be i think there would be a mischaracterization of what happened for one for not knowing the context to just

simply because you had a crowd that was divided between violent and peaceable protesters who were stoking the flames of this really tell you of basically what ended up happening so mother jones cover this very clearly actually they were. far to the left an organization they covered what you have is a large majority of peaceful protesters were out there alongside some very violent protesters were looking to stoke controversy there because they were like go watch it all prior to the please show there were you know we have on tape a woman there is part of it on lawrence o'donnell show late night and that they were throwing bottles and rocks to go where the filled with her and i said you know when when when the whole of this is all the time it is right at the horn hague's one of these incidents that they need to all right in the last thirty years the top one percent of their wealth increased by two hundred seventy five percent yet the average wage as gone up since reagan came into office dollar thirty two cents you know tom you tell me there's not all that in the top one percent from when reagan was president. isn't the top one percent now you can earn your way into the top one

percent maybe you have i want to as a buyer do people come in now they want to talk about the g eight you know idiots let you make a decision you made no republicans. my income has gone up and down over the years it's official republicans have already killed hundreds of thousands of jobs it's not a visual the math instead of american progress right three hundred seventy five thousand jobs as a result of republican budget cuts and then if you look at the state budget cuts we're state in all in red states. because in blue states have actually hired some people but it's been a net five hundred thousand jobs lost in the red states you add these together and you know if it wasn't for republicans cutting jobs unemployment probably be below eight percent so is it true that the republican strategy to beat president obama is to destroy the economy sure looks like they're doing a great job of it but what strategy what might have been it could have been better all we don't know that this right is not made up of all these people that have such a straight the g.o.p. has been a trying to make

a case lately that they've presented sixteen jobs bills all when i was it was just bills always have all the exact cuts for reality which have been passed and actually i mean in the issue of tax cuts and government reduction i mean that is that's sort of the point isn't it i mean you're projecting forward towards the future you have to be able to be economically economically sustainable hollowing is monday was it monday is or whatever date as anyway the g.d.p. is going to he's going to be clipped by the national debt and now we're just the national debt run by three republican presidents so that let's let's be clear we don't have to speculate about what's going to happen in an era of austerity because we're actually watching it played out david cameron the prime minister of britain is the president that republicans want to have you know he came in and he called for twenty five percent across the board cuts and many agencies he's put in place the austerity the austerity agenda that we've seen so many people in congress and the result is that for the last three quarters growth in the growth in britain has been. literally non-existing has made zero g.t.

features were went on for you yeah so you went it went down half a point at one point then the average has been zero no growth in the united states we just had a two point five percent growth that's not great it's not terrible leader that's slightly below average and so you're seeing now we got a small dose with the with these cuts that we had to put in place to get the budget through and to get the and to get the deficit ceiling or the debt ceiling raised we've got a small taste of that agenda over in britain they've got to formulate are going well majority of fox viewers seem to get this fifty two percent of our experience say president obama has been trying to fix the economy and republicans have been rocks and walking as well as those of the fox news poll i love that you absolutely love democracy when you win and when you lose you sue or you ignore it ok's not go away i will impose it on its own it will add a whole implement obama's jobs bill if we also take the polling data that says we

want to be. fair about that swapping out one point down without if you want to say polls and legislate by partially do it i don't with if you want to do that go through the items of obamacare item by item and actually ask people what they are rather than what you want so it's crazy item by item i. know people want perfectly willing to one if you want to swap out based on polling if you are because the polls and obamacare on my side no promise jobs bill is will do some damage but it won't be nearly as damaging as obama. might say there's a silver lining but the chances are he's probably not going to see these poll numbers one because they're from fox two because he's not actually interested in looking at polls because his favor building rating is at its lowest it's ever been and he's struggling to bring that up because of because of the economy because what the american people perceive is a president that hasn't been able to recover i think it's to the extent that he's struggling it seems to me that he's struggling against her but i don't really understand why we're talking about with holes i only the question is what is a good idea and. it really doesn't matter whether fifty percent of the country or

thirty percent of the country you know making sure that we have school teachers in our schools is a good idea that's in the jobs bill making sure that we have roads that's a good idea it's in the jobs bill making sure that all americans pay their fair share and that the people who are least able to afford it don't carry a disproportionate bore burden that is a good idea and that is in the jobs bill so what we want to be looking for is we want to make sure well let's start with that let's start with the tax rates that we had we had a booming economy under bill clinton it looks good and i say i knew it was. going to be under the right eisenhower was i would like to roll back the reagan tax cuts i was like i was are going to regulations it was easier to go back through zero in order to get to the republican race here mitt romney showed he's a flip flopper again this time senate bill five herman cain is still doing really well in the polls even though he has apparently in no states any ground he's got

actually running for president at least he is running in politics lies fifteen years he's made his living as an inspirational speaker he's just doubled the speaking fees rick perry is deeply flawed he falls all over him so the tea party group american majority actually came out officially as michele bachmann to drop out of the race bertha resume is back how long is it going to be before republicans start asking donald trump to come back in. the role of i'll say this you know i've seen the brawny campaign described as the non campaign you know he's out there he's not doing very many events he's not putting themselves out there and i actually think mitt romney's been very smart and here's why. we do have a weak economy and incumbents tend to lose in a weak economy so that's a strike against obama on the other hand republican ideas are massively you know paul ryan's plan to gradually phase out the medicare program that is unpopular the idea that the back. boehner economic policy should be tax cuts for paris hilton

that is unpopular and so the best thing that republicans can do is shut their mallets hope that no one notices them and that the wall that normally plays out in incumbency takes place as the romans do which is exactly what i think he is doing so romney romney's biggest fans of ron romney is keeping his head down i mean that's just that's the strategy right now to make it through the primary process because he's found himself in a comfortable position in the polls cain is a now announced that he's interested in keeping his head down because he thinks that that will help him i get to be seen to him but you. know that you have multiple you have you have multiple people that the political experts who say this doesn't feel like a campaign yet for a lot of reasons partly because so many candidates involved in the polling right now i think represents americans who are interested in seeing personalities that they like as we get closer to an election no closer to the primary they're going to start to see the polling is going to indicate americans are. having favor building for a candidate they think will actually accomplish so very quickly there is that going to be when the republican party turns to chris christie and john thune and mitch

mitch daniels and says please we need a likable guy you don't you know your day example you run for president it's a calling not a favor. back to your comment you're citing twenty second cain about his speaking fees doubling as. i think they will there be only three but he's not running to double speak he's not running for president of united states a car to the man i've interviewed you really think that he do you think he's wasting his time just to double speaking there is an easier way to do if it doesn't involve the invasive media i when i was going to bet you a year from now he's a fox commentator and he making it very very present the united states i bet you a dollar either way he's not running for he's got more experience and executive position than barack obama still rick perry now has his own speaking of presidential candidates where rick perry has his own flat tax unlike herman cain's which would actually massively increase taxes on poor people and massively cut taxes on rich people. perry's flat tax says if you're rich you can have

a huge tax cut if you're poor and not so poor that you don't pay any taxes at all but you know working poor or the working middle class you could just pay what you're paying right now. i don't get it steve forbes was the first guy to push this back in one thousand nine hundred if it had passed he would have by now gotten a one point six billion dollars tax cut steve forbes i mean and he's still pushing this thing what's what's really more important to the republicans addressing the actual debt that they keep screaming about ward dealing with the these massive tax cuts that have been given to the top one percent by both reagan and now version i think you're going to the one percent that money is earned and the government takes and the government wants to take the government continually wants to take there is a car is never going to find a veritable x.-axis of the price of membership in a civil society but what is a fair what is a fair share. i go back to where i started a fair share is that money is the is the taxes that we had when our economy was

booming you know george bush told us his bill of goods george bush told us let's go ahead let's cut taxes on the rich and our economy will grow all that has happened is his per presidency and in a match and in a massive recession and now the situation that we have right now the riches the the incomes of the rich are still growing a great deal businesses are literally sitting on trillions of dollars that they are not spending that they are not using to hire so the idea that we're going to take people who are not spending their money we're not doing anything with it and are not creating jobs with it and we're then going to say take more money so you can not create jobs with that that's bad policy going to do anything with that money going to your you know why is really simple there's no demand and there's no demand because because wages have gone up a dollar thirty two cents since ronald reagan came into office and declared he wanted to i was leaving that money i was making three eighty five in one thousand nine hundred ninety s. because even more you know similarly perry's plan needs to have the. reduction your

talk about the debt reduction as well because revenue it won't matter unless he actually works with us i don't see how any of these then these i think. optics but in any case the patriot act turns ten years old this week or so on which is sneaking peeks you're celebrating i'm sure you would all right rejoicing yeah. setting aside the weirdness of the word homeland sneaking peeks one of the pieces of the patriot act we were sold this is going to protect us from terrorism seventy two seventy six percent of the time it's been used to look for drugs usually unsuccessful or twenty four percent of the time for other crimes less than one percent for terrorism has the patriot act made us safer but this is the problem with big government you can have the greatest intentions in the world but once you let the camel's nose under the tent every other law enforcement agencies going to use that yes it should be real to me and saying it should. be absolutely i think is a series of things have to be changed with that but it's one of these questions where you certainly can't throw the baby out with the bathwater you can create

something new call it something completely different fine but there are elements including interagency sharing that really did matter that wasn't there before the patriot act was and still weren't there not because they were prevented by law but because they were provided by systemic way in a really good position they were just fine they've been unable in the process you have things like roving wiretaps which have definitely real liberals and real that this but the principle of the principle of the roving wiretap is that you can track an individual not just the device it was done under and they have to get a warrant bill of goods here because we're told this is about terrorism that's not what it's a goose for i reject this suggestion that you know because it's a government thing that that somehow impugns all government you know medicare works just fine social security works just fine sometimes but government does a good thing sometimes government does bad things and we should get rid of the bad and you know this doesn't seem to be doing what we were told it was supposed to do and the last question we were to where it is hard the political ad that's getting all the buzz as we can see herman cain's featuring his campaign manager smoking cigarettes to look at this. we need to get involved because together we can do this

so we can take this country back. so given our promoting drug use in this case nicotine gets you a lot of attention what other candidates will steal cain's idea and cut a new political ad featuring drug use will it be a ron paul or. oh yeah i need the government to take care of me i don't want to use that one so i need these tea i. thank you i never thought to get applause here as i. told folks for me and all drugs will be legal including heroin or rick perry. your state has executed two hundred thirty four death row inmates more than any other governor in

modern times have you. see the slogan going to be i don't just lethally inject or about mitt romney. those are very low and it's not certain that those at the very high end it's for the great look last the eighty to ninety percent of this country. where romney gets a starbucks endorsement you should too coffee is a drug if you're a mormon you know what doing i have no. i'm not going to but i would guess that gary johnson is probably high right now. tom i'm proud to announce my candidacy for the presidency of the united states and i promised we cocaine for all americans. i think ron paul's biggest problem is he's always so consistent just right now he just needs to come out and just be doing heroin i think that be a great campaign ad and a way for i'm actually get some press we try to find a visual of the. answer is michele bachmann. congresswoman bachmann are you going to times tonight or someone hypnotized you because i'm not i want to ask you you

give the same answer do you have the ties has someone put you under a trance tonight you say her slogan is going to be i'm not hypnotized i'm just on an l.s.d. trip or that artist. coach. during. vince thank you guys thanks. for coming out in something i do nine versus the one percent the one percent versus the one percent i'll explain in my deleted. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through get through the people who can you trust no one who is in view with a global mission who would see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.

the banks or one percent in chicago had a little message they wanted to get out of the ninety nine percent movement camped out on the streets below so someone at the chicago board of trade board leaflets out the window to rain down on the demonstrators below the leaflets read we are wall street and it's our jobs to make money go ahead and continue to take us down but you're only going to hurt yourselves it's going to happen when we can't find

jobs on the street anymore guess what they're going to take yards. as we all know today that's not a threat it's a promise wall street has never had a problem taking what's not there whether it was the trillions they took when the economy blew up as a result of the housing bubble seen or the trillions more they took from the taxpayers when they demand to bail out wall street just churns other people's money and skims their vig off the top and they've been doing it in a pretty outrageous way what once was considered both immoral and illegal for the last thirty years since reagan stopped in force in the sherman antitrust act is now normal leading to an explosion on wall street. that started back then continuing to this day but was then called m. and a mergers and acquisitions from one nine hundred forty seven three nine hundred seventy nine before reagan and in a way as america got wealthier and wealthier that wealth went to everyone we all got wealthier but then came fat sure and reagan and milton friedman and i and rand

in this bizarre notion that playing games by rules that work for everybody is just a quaint idea and instead the world should be reformed to make it easy for the predators as a result over the last thirty years most of all the new wealth created in america just the top one percent when reagan first began to really corrupt capitalism as i noted in my book on equal protection most americans didn't even notice that greed is good sounded reasonable to many people and for the first time in history school kids started saying they wanted to grow up to be rich instead of wanting to grow up to be somebody who changed the world washington lincoln or martin luther king jr. but then after reagan kicked off today's massive concentration of wealth the top one percent just started taking more and more they took it off after on reagan made it legal and last generation the richest one percent have seen their incomes on

will squad drupal for the average americans have seen their paychecks increase by only a dollar twenty three cents the average wealth of the top one percent is two hundred twenty five times greater than the average wealth of the typical family thirty years ago the typical c.e.o. made about forty times more than the typical employee now they take as much as two hundred times more than their employees and wall street as much as two thousand times or ten thousand times more than their employees cake cake cake but after thirty years we're now clearly seen the results of trying to play a game with no rules are rules that are so skewed as to make things easy for the rich and hard for working people it's why working people took over madison wisconsin so i working people are taking over cities all across america and because in that reagan era so-called free market capitalism was all the bad from here to badgers u.k. to pinochet's chile are now seeing the ninety nine percent revolt in nation after

nation after nation but even though the one percent sitting high above chicago thing is is their job to take from everyone else a majority one percenters actually think it's their job to give. earlier this week filmmaker michael moore expressed the mentality of most one percenters a lot to give back to the nation that made them so wealthy. that even though i do well that i don't associate myself with those who do well i am devoting my wife to those who would who have less and who have been who cracked the pond by this system and that's how i spent my time my energy my money on on trying to up in this system that i think is a system of violence it's a system that's unfair to the average working person in this country and it was a mistake to ever give me a dime from that day and michael moore isn't alone warren buffett for example

famously called for his taxes to be raised in fact he's been calling for it for years noting that there is class warfare going on in america all right ed it's his class the rich class the one percent plus it's win but there's more as i said there's actually a majority among that one percent who are on the side of the ninety nine percent a new survey of millionaires by the spectrum finds this sixty eight percent of millionaires people earning more than a million dollars a year in this nation support increasing taxes on millionaires that's right most millionaires want their own taxes to go up you know it's the is that old interview with the german businessman who said i don't want to be a rich man in a poor country because over the last thirty years millionaires are pretty much gotten whatever they wanted from free trade deals that make c.e.o.'s incredibly rich while working wages plummet to enormous tax cuts that created huge national deficit and corporate welfare in the form of wall street bailouts and big oil

subsidies but now that a majority of millionaires want their taxes to go up they can't even get republicans in the senate to drop their filibuster and allow a debate on the issue. the point is it's not about how much money you make that makes you the one percent from michael moore to warren buffett there are plenty of patriotic one percenters it's about whether or not you think it's the job of the rich to give back to the country that major wage or if it's just the job of the rich to keep making more and more money to make more money than they can spend in their lifetimes their children's lives their grandchildren's like times or their great grandchildren's lives while the nation around them to cheer it's it's not about your bank account it's about your patriotism that ninety nine percent movement is the most patriotic thing happening in america let's just hope our our politicians catch on so that's the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we covered visit our website to tom hartman the free speech that award

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