and then it limps something else in here see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture . i'm more or less for. the police corruption and.

nobody seems to know. that never appropriate to face quite hard the argument that they're being overly dramatic. it's time for showing us how long tonight's program last time we told you about the violence of my oakland protest last week including police firing off a tear gas canister which left an iraq veteran critically wounded after people express their outrage at this man situation and thousands came out on the streets the police right now but in the service of a turning point for the occupy movement it's going to produce a pretty reason to send you to find out what you had to say. last week in iraq war

veteran protesting it out and it was critically injured by a tear gas canister and the blame seems to be on the police the mayor of oakland has publicly apologized the chief of police has also apologized and even going to visit the injured man in the hospital with this straight play in oakland tomorrow the city is allowing employees to ask supervisors for furlough time if they want to attend and in san francisco the city board of supervisors are ready to approve a resolution that calls for no use to dislodge demonstrators in their city has the critical injury to occupy protester in iraq war veteran scott olsen brought about a turning point in this movement the emir said i think so the turning point usually happens when people start getting seriously hurt or killed arca three g. are said the actions of the police in oakland have given the movement its flag to rally around zachary believes that the violence is itself a turning point he predicts that if several more incidents like this happen we will

see people within the occupy wall street movement coming out of the woodwork as aggressors a lot of our viewers who wrote in seem to feel that the violence in oakland is a turning point for the occupy movement and with the lessons learned by this incident let's hope that all sides can find a way to turn in the right direction because we all know there was no turning back . now as always we appreciate your responses and yours are not. question for you at home we've witnessed hundreds of arrests of occupy protesters all over the country from new york city in nashville t.n. cities and states use arcade legislation or passed around new laws to get it done but it's not anything you think that we're losing our first amendment rights to free speech and assembly of americans if you respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and those responses just like me on. the line will come down. so much still wires going to be saying.

well tonight we have yet another glimmer of hope surrounding debit card fees the five dollars debit originally proposed by bank of america is dead in the water just over a month that it was proposed by the bank and that with the ire of everybody ranging to consumer groups congressman and even president obama last week we brought you the news the fargo and j.p. morgan chase announced that they would be abandoning their plans for the five dollars yesterday sun trust and regions bank announced that they too would be giving up the feet and reimbursing customers for all these incurred and today the bank that started it all announce that they would not be continuing with their plan for that five dollars fee which is i think a very rare victory for consumers but before i get too excited about this consumer victory over bank of america i do a few questions for the bank and when i originally announced the plan for a five dollars fee in september they claimed he was simply i can work they do the new regulations like because part of dodd frank they would simply have to pass on the fees to their customers and of story c.e.o.

brian moynihan simply reaffirmed the banks quote have a right to make a profit now of course those opposed to operate in new banking regulations in general jumped on the new fee as an example the costs of regulations being passed on to the consumer and an eval result of trying to rein the banks in but that was the central argument which is that if these a civil response the economics of the day and the regulation well i would love to get could explain to me what exact. it has changed in the economics of the last two months other major banks deciding not to change the fee doesn't change the economics of the day this isn't change the new regulations in dodd frank what it does show as the banks are full of it especially bank of america who have the audacity to come out and make the claim the regulations in march are levers and simply not greed made them create that the other banks are going to do is find consumers' fee charges and charge consumers be the excuse me as much as they can get away with and use any excuse that they can but this small victory for consumers also shows that people do have some power against the banks so they helped organize

consumer groups the power of occupy wall street but also economic arguments of the banks are brought out in the open and exposed for the fraud that they are and i'd say that's a true glimmer of hope. now since the occupy movement began as a car park and spread across the country it's raise a lot of questions about just how far our freedoms of speech and assembly can really go we've seen city after city use obscure laws even passed last minute legislation to try and keep the occupiers from exercising those rights one of the latest examples being tennessee where legislators have passed a last minute curfew to make it possible to arrest protesters trying to camp out every night now a federal judge ruled in support of protesters yesterday an a.c.l.u. they've taken up their cause but it's only one small victory so let's look at what other obstacles he's seeing and still might see in the future of this process with me as my craig says the reason magazine and reason dot com mike thanks so much for joining us tonight let's start with just this example in tennessee where they just decided to say you know what word is going to pass a curfew on

a public space and say that you can't actually occupy if i show you how far you know lawmakers city leaders are willing to go to try to suppress protest i think so to maintain order that's like one thing they might do it's also it's not particularly new i mean there are other things that you can't do in public spaces in the middle of a city that if you didn't have sort of if you weren't offering the umbrella of the first amendment you probably couldn't you couldn't you couldn't generally start a fire or cook or stuff like that and so there's the permits and the regulations that are being used now against protesters or generally just i think used against. you know people to keep parks clean and stuff but. you know while the person who says you know congress shall make no law abridging free speech rights of assemble and all that stuff we know that's we know that's not true i mean we have federal agencies that exist solely to make laws that inhibit speech the f.c.c. regulations the f.c.c. the f.c.c. says regulation apparently made they do and there you have credit card consumers

why this is i mean this is a good person as much as i love it like we don't get to practice it and for very often it all but what do you think some of the most ridiculous examples are that we've seen. you know throughout this occupy movement in cities across the country i mean i remember reading about men who were arrested for wearing a guy fawkes masks in new york city because of some archaic law that you know didn't allow more than one person to be wearing a mask because of masquerade parties and god knows what year what else yeah i can't i can't point to anything that specific i mean in general the most disturbing thing i've seen is this idea that the police in order to keep the peace or to prevent violence are actually trying to incite it and entire denies it i mean what we saw in oakland you know that was just absolutely horrendous and totally unnecessary and i think reacting with violence or extreme force in anticipation of protesters acting violently is like pretty extreme in new york we've we've seen all over the place i mean with the end of warfare it's. pretty in fact peacekeeping is what you

call it and york it's all over the place i mean they've gone from centrally totally antagonizing the protesters to now that they're having these problems in zuccotti park with stuff like rape and assault and theft to refusing to intervene at all so the this it's old it shifts from location to location protests to protest i think the overall ambition of most of the politicians of all the ones who have been sort of signed on are so that they support it is basically to try and get things back to normal as soon as possible well we've also seen a lot of mean for example if you like the open marriage inclined she was ok with the police tactics until we you saw an iraq war veteran scott olsen be injured by a tear gas yeah externally you saw that because you know that everybody latched onto and then suddenly she changed her mind and she supported and then she went visiting the hospital and so i'm just wondering you know do you think this is a big numbers or is it p.r. that finally my might save the day might get police to back down because at that

same day two thousand people came out in oakland and the police backed down on occupy. oakland p.d. so they're very confused about they released a letter today saying they have no idea what they're supposed to be doing the quote is all. the place i think what we're seeing across the country right now is police forces that are not trained for protest to me when you think about it i mean the shiny example for handling the stuff i shining may be a bit strong but a good example i think is probably the metropolitan police department for the district of columbia they're they're used to process they're used to large crowds that could cause damage often don't it could cause damage so we have police departments across the country who have no training for this whatsoever we have mayors of cities of all shapes and sizes who have no training for this whatsoever and who also like sort of don't like this the government does not like this politicians who pretend to like it or say that they endorse it you know partly for covering their asses they're trying to stay in office and this movement is not going away some people say it will go away and in the northeast because of the weather but it's not going away all of them are concerned about reelection and all

of them are concerned about what damage or ramifications could do to their image so i think for the most part we're seeing a lack of training and also sort of attempt to co-opt the movement what would you say about police officers are trained at this point they seem to have a lot of gear that makes them resemble the military very much they are a lot of former veterans coming over from iraq from afghanistan and then are going into the police force and so then you have a century war tactics being used. they are there they're trained to destroy i mean they're trained to suppress it's not i don't think it's an exaggeration to say that american police forces over probably since i mean at least some snacks and you know declared the drug war had definitely been moved towards becoming these like really efficient like the number of the city police departments have swat teams in the number of city police departments have all kinds of tact weapons it's gone through the roof there are extra curricular training that they might do i mean because swat is a voluntary commitment for most police officers a really coveted one the training that they're doing is for busting down doors it's

for taking out suspects with as little resistance as possible they are definitely not being trained to stand back to used to stay. rush in to sure they're not trained for any respect for the constitution because most of them violate the fourth amendment on a regular basis i guess hopefully well we'll start to see that change there if you know the occupy movement continues on if it continues to gain momentum i think so much for joining us tonight thank you. so calm congress is hard at work away for a time with their latest resolution i have was not on our full time segment and then happy hour that is obvious balmy e-mail by the g.o.p. in virginia go too far plus the insane way that a woman wanted to remember her dad of course.

you're the police read anything. like what a fantastic nobody seems to know. that never a pepper spray to face but already argument that they're being overly dramatic. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then something else you hear sees some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't know i'm sorry for the big picture.

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i deciphered science tools and awarding tonight because the g.o.p. members in the house of representatives tell it all the problems currently facing our nation the item on the agenda today in washington d.c. is a vote to reaffirm in god we trust as the national motto i kid you not this morning that lies are splashed all across the web the washington post says social issues returned the forefront with the in god we trust resolution l.a. times details of the planned resolution and of course fox news supports the idea with the headline the motto of very kind needs right now i've got one tiny little question why the hell is this being voted on right now of all times and why this one thing that congress is even addressing after all in god we trust is actually already the us motto became the official motto back in one nine hundred fifty six that hasn't changed and as far as i know nobody is trying to change that so why do

we need to reaffirm we seriously is that a pressing issue but with this new resolution congress is pushing it for the display of the motto in all public buildings meaning all public schools courts and other government buildings so not surprisingly that whole separation of church and state thing doesn't really need all that much to g.o.p. lawmakers especially when there is a culture war to win an economic turmoil to distract from now i'm sure they will see all sorts of court challenges if in god we trust starts appearing in public buildings just like the lawsuits over displaying the ten commandments in public buildings a few years ago so maybe they're looking at this as a job creator could employ a few lawyers but tonight i thought a novel idea for congress instead of reaffirming in god we trust is the official motto of the united states why are you trying to earn the trust of the american people have you forgotten or they don't really think all that much of you right now how do you actually do your job the current unemployment rate is nine point one percent if you go by the you six the real unemployment rate stands at sixteen point five percent nine so people are out of work maybe you could pass

a jobs bill that might get the economy moving again but who wait you did vote on that issue recently in the house and the g.o.p. said no to. president obama's jobs bill could have provided money for states to build repair roads and bridges along with tax breaks for businesses but because president obama wanted to pay for the plan by increases increasing taxes on millionaires and g.o.p. said hell no so democrats try to send the bill through into a broken or broken into little pieces and the first part would provided funding for states to hire teachers cops and firefighters but again the g.o.p. said no so it's no wonder that recent polls that we discussed on the show congress's approval rating in the single digits it's the main reason the president obama's labeled one hundred twelfth congress the do nothing congress as he seeks a second term i have always open negotiations what is also true is they need to do something so build the answer the question then is will congress do something if congress does something that i can't run against a do nothing congress if congress does nothing then it's not

a matter of me running against them i think the american people will run them out of town. that's right the american people are hurting but g.o.p. lawmakers are simply choosing to do what they do best and that is to deflect the flak to defunding planned parenthood or acorn or n.p.r. or in this case wasting its time and taxpayer money voting on the in god we trust motto so for once again shirking responsibility is like that officials focusing on waging an exceedingly unimportant culture war that's why we're giving one hundred twelve g.o.p. the congress tonight's bull's-eye more. hi guys it's time for happy hour and joining me this evening producer jenny churchill

and mike ritz sociedad their reason augustine and reason dot com thanks for joining you guys thank you all right so we all know that yesterday was hala we all for you all enjoyed our whole week show it a lot of fun doing it. and so for the whole we there's this banner that has a lot of people really really upset take a look at the depiction of president obama as a zombie with a bullet hole in his forehead was part of the illustration in an e-mail sent to members of the loudoun county republican committee asking them to help decorate a float for the leesburg hollow we were eight. and had obama with a bullet in his head looking like a zombie it also had nancy pelosi all disfigured a throng of flesh hungry zombie obama supporters and they the people who have the loudoun county g.o.p. chairman mark cells apologize he said it was just a light hearted attempt to inject satire humor into the hallway and holiday when you guys think i i mean i was i think anytime that you're saying g.o.p.

. semi southern state obama bullet hole in the ad. that's going to raise. is going to accept people i mean it's like a flyer campaign is basically just a series of red flags photoshop together really really well maybe have more for the bolt hole and have been more comfortable i mean obviously they're not inciting like an assassination attempt or anything it was sort of in keeping with the season you seem skeptical like the radio is the funniest thing ever yes i do write about maybe's on the radio because he was actually me by the time he died but i don't know i just i feel like and again if this had been a white politician i probably wouldn't feel uncomfortable with it but yeah i don't know you know the i guess i guess the race angle bothers me a little bit and i think it's definitely adds to kind of the same time it's kind of like this was so unbelievably unnecessary you're going to develop something like this just for a newsletter to send out asking people to help with the flow. i just resources i

don't know they got the money somebody on that team is a great photo shopper and they got they got the attention they got all the p.r. in the world that they wanted but there they like ross harris are not ok then actually you know right now this could have been a lot smarter i mean based on the amount of money herman cain raise this morning after sort of singing about sexual harassment yesterday this could be great for the republicans. well see they actually actually we did that there now this next story is just like this story being and just seems wrong in so many ways for. this is actually a local woman who climbed inside of a carcass of a dead horse without her clothes on to pose for pictures but there's more to all of this photos of the woman and her boyfriend holding what appears to be the forces heart. so apparently they're not being charged. apparently she did it

so she could feel one with the horse i don't think it was her horse it was her voice you story know that it's really sure i don't know if it was her horse but the horse was old and it was being killed and they then slaughtered the horse to eat the horse and they did end up eating her and they did not work so this was kind of like in the oh there's an empty carcass here i don't know what to do maybe i should climb inside and take pictures that was that known who didn't do that yeah i mean you sort of nauseated seeing that but i don't know like maybe they're just doing like this mishmash of cultures right you know the way you waste not want to use the whole animal plus star wars crawl inside it to keep warm i don't know but i mean there's rumors a lot of time where totally her boyfriend could have a heart of memory but again we're just dealing with what i think like from what i read to you now they're moving on to some other city where he wants to find another horse to do this with i was really confused because the same article that said that i also said she just wanted this whole thing to go away and i was like you should

do when you go away do you mean go to a different state and a new car or something. so i don't know maybe like it you know those good software and move on to the next one. trip plus i get like if i want to see a picture for you ok because the marker feller's i'm going to talk to you this is a little much for me to and i will so it was like a counterpoise would be ok with no we cannot marry horses so i think that has been explored there actually and this is now i also have an affinity for. marcus i'm going to say no. i mean it was now can we just revisit but this is no different i mean this is like an intermediate step between like wearing a dead animal on your body like for something you know so really you know it's ok you know maybe the time we're there going to work i heard through some of the natty little i don't know you know what if we are being real with it ok she's ok you before you came on sundays actually you know what you mean i just took

a like this is just the intermediate step ok which is playing with a horse start right there ok moving. horses to robots take a look at the girl who can't go to school for the robots. the spire was. called of the hugo goren's teachers and friends can see and talk with her while she's safe at home controlling the biko from her keyboard. so apparently she has an allergy. to dairy and so because kids come to school with their hands and then touch the desks you know drinks milk or cereal or what not regret christmas the scrambled eggs that may have little milk in there. so you know now. getting hungry i'm a break thought is that's cool you can have a robot go to school for you i guess forget about you know going to prom rating

thing but am i the only person bothered by the fact that really preserving all these elements of the gene pool like a hundred years ago when i just had to like tough it out or get out you know i'm not i don't want anything bad to have your guy or girl here i don't know larry you're going to be like i said a man's eyes grow because but i would think about it like like food allergies in the western world are just like going through the roof it's really ridiculous i mean you know we just like mike what do you stand well so how do we ask the allergies are going through the roof we asked about i think you all are so similar or. you know these are what you wrote that is how do you say you can't do this because it's completely took me away from my bubble boy comment i was clearly wasn't thinking about what will be a nation of bubble boy because there's something about this i propose kids in to walk around barefoot more often you know just stay out. there and i don't think that we are we don't know what we're eating half the time look i'm pretty foul and disgusting not everybody can have a robot and that's the future we're moving towards

a lot and i'm really worried about why don't you send a robot like you want to send a robot in to do the most boring part of school sit in class you don't get to like go out for recess get to go to dances she does have the social contract darwin is spinning it is ok i think it's going to have. maybe even more weird there may have . in a u.f.o. sighting at an n.f.l. game watch this video and i'm going to show you close it backwards but watch closely. when you say you have. to be on the phone i think there's a still total and i don't. want to track all right really i don't really know showing the are that's kind of like oh maybe it's a go in the dark for israel or maybe there's no plan that this is actually a bug that flew really close to the lens of the camera and the issue with that

theory however as the middle spire they're clearly is behind it so how could it be close close to the camera lens yet behind the building i don't know i love that you've explored this and. yeah on your website right. is nothing was yeah. your post exists we just don't know where what they are we don't know clearly a lot of the right there are you tonight although we don't know you know we're not saying it's an alien's we're not saying that it's military and the airlines out there you know it's even more mysterious based on a unified and it is a flying object and then happen in front of tons of people just like the two thousand and six o'hare sighting ok because we were in. thanks for joining me tonight i've never night so thanks for joining in making a comeback tomorrow's the baker is going to be on the program to talk dogs i was free any legislation that might give them some of the things that they want and any

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