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the fate of the greek government is on a knife edge as fury over the pm george papandreou bailout referendum stunt threatens to destroy his government the parliamentary vote of no confidence. in greece adds to the trauma for global leaders of the g twenty summit and can agree to boost the power of the i.m.f. to try to stop the debt contagion spreading to. be mocked up mission touches down and simulated flight to mars is complemented by six man crew spending over five hundred days in isolation as part of an ambitious space experiments. the road to
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a traditional campaign is cry farmers computer whiz kid is told he'd committed no major crime in the u.k. but could still face trial in the u.s. . internationally come and live from moscow with the twenty four hours a day good to have you with us this hour the latest chapter in the cyber is due to unfold as the government of prime minister george papandreou faces a crucial confidence vote the embattled greek leader alienated many of his supporters over plans for a bailout referendum which the nation council the outcome of the vote could have a major bearing on the debt stricken eurozone or the sarah first has all the latest from athens. if that's in the bills like change could be coming to greece ok it's nice now that the n.p.c. gathering in parliament has come to us that it's expected about midnight local time
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and there's going to be critical discussions being held at the head of that prime minister jews patty davis is going to be asking will make his seat get behind him and support head on the bailout plan but you know it's very very uncertain will the outcome of that will be we've been speaking to loads of people here today certainly the feeling is the jewish topping today's days are numbered as prime minister there's a very strong sense that it's time to change well certainly that's what the public here are calling for and amongst the same governments as well we seem to spend six weeks in the ruling class the party growing a for the week that he likes it and that he's discontent from some members of his aim party as well as from foreign and foreign people about the referendum announcing that he made at the beginning of the week and then we saw that backtracking on not later this week the huge pressure from the iraqis any design from his same government if the vote doesn't cases very early on says and what
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would actually happen and whether a unity government would be full not certainly one of the options oh this uncertainty that we've seen this week and it really has been a week here to not take decisions has come at a really critical time that we answer the euro is in as a whole the last thing that anyone wanted with this kind of instability there's growing public anger again the people taking to the streets he's seen it time and again they've really reached a point where they want something to give now they've lost confidence in the prime minister and in the ruling class the party and a lot of the people with speaking to today are saying is actually quite ironic describing this as a confidence that because the public simply don't have any in the leadership and he will take a listen some of what we listened to in the streets today these political system that was created after. the end of the day they're seeing seventy four it's a two legged zombie it's in the live at the same time the problem is that there's no one there live it's usually the norm and. the old system is there but then you
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see before that very much the odds against the own good the outcome of that they will be a meeting full of good decisions will be made because that could really have a very serious knock on impact throughout the rest of the eerie thing was decided it's night could be released to the tilt a pivotal moment in the future of the usa the police's teacher as well as he said to me the feeling in the arts not here in athens is that the clock is ticking ahead of that crucial confidence they happened today could well be on his way out of his position as prime minister. surface reporting there and the political and financial turbulence in greece has shaped discussion at the g twenty summit which is wrapped up now and you can be his voice strong determination to defend the euro and agreed on bolstering the international monetary fund resources he's in the tsunami has the details. this week twenty has ramped up here in cannes where of course the focus
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was the greek tragedy that develops very quickly throughout the week nicolas sarkozy wrapping up the summit by saying that he and other european beers are ready to defend the euro till the end we had a lot of pressure from france and germany in terms of summoning the greek prime minister when he called a referendum of course that has been cancelled but the main themes that we're hearing here is that greece needs to follow the rules the e.u. doesn't choose governments but the governments that the people choose need to play by their game or they need to get out of to discuss that further we can now cross to washington d.c. where i'm joined by financial blogger demetri coach in this thank you for being with us how much pressure do you think was put on the greek pm by angela merkel and nicolas sarkozy on that though those talks the emergency talks they held on the very eve of this summit in which he laughed and then of course that referendum was cancelled. well there were certainly dissatisfied about it i think that the prime
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minister has received pressure pretty much from all sides he received pressure from merkel from sarkozy from the leaders in europe but also from members of his own party as well as the coalition of course he was reprimanded across the board so i think. the referendum that he proposed was quickly shot down by everyone and also sarkozy mentioned several times over the past few days at the g twenty here that greece needs to play by the rules he said it almost every press conference he gave he gave a lot of them also saying that greece is an independent country that he doesn't want to get involved in the internal affairs of of the sovereign state but isn't that exactly what we're seeing happening here with all the the the monitoring and all the conditions that are being put out for greece. greece is no longer an independent country has been for a while and if you listen to the speeches given by all the different leaders of the political parties in parliament last night and the preceding days and months you'll
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see that the conversation is always on what we need to do to satisfy our creditors demands and our creditors are the people who are going to determine whether we survive or don't survive so they're not they don't hide the fact that they're not they're not in control of their own destiny and that they depend on the eurozone and the developed i can just to continue to fund the government and even more importantly the support of the european system of central banks in the e.c.b. they continue to provide liquidity to the greek banking system which has been bleeding deposits for months and months and so that's the real the the biggest concern of all the fact that the banking system is no longer sustainable because it holds so much greek sovereign debt and if a default were to occur the banking system in greece would suffer as well and right now it depends on the e.c.b. and on the eurozone to survive just briefly how do you think i and what do you think would have happened if that referendum actually went to a vote what would the greek people have said. i think the person who expressed best what the greek people potentially would have said was the opposition leaders on the
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us in parliament when he said that when you close a referendum to the greek people under such conditions of the arrests. and indignity what you're going to get is an answer not to the question but to the person who's posing the question in other words the people would say no to whatever the question was because they would be voting in response to what they see seen being to be a vacuum of leadership and democracy in the country so i think that if there were to be a vote that vote would have been an exit from the euro zone and that's what scared the politicians in greece so much and why you saw such a backlash against up on that when he came out with the proposition not just from the opposition leaders but from members of his own party including his own deputy who came back from cannes the next day and we should immediately issued. statement saying that referendum on e.u. membership was a no go right financial blogger demand to be straining me from washington d.c. thanks for your thoughts at the g twenty is wrapping up here in cannes no
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breakthrough i think it's fair to say one of the steps that has been taken is that it seems the brics countries the emerging economies are having more of their say they are pledging some money to the euro zone crisis not clear exactly what the sum is but i hate we're getting that really they are making some headway the g twenty summit for the first time ever in trying to thirteen will be held in a brick mason in brussels moscow in twenty eight thirteen so some progress on that front. and he said i reporting that this is also you live in moscow still ahead finding a way where there's a will after america's first strike in fifty years and in a police crackdown we discussed methods to get the banks to listen to your plight peacefully. western governments plan to ramp up the pressure on iran over its nuclear program ahead of a report by a un watchdog all the details just ahead for you here on r.t. . an epic seventeen month journey to mars has just completed its mission
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even though the spacecraft never left earth and simulated flight took place in moscow was an experiment to monitor the psychological effects of long term isolation on the six man international crew here the impressions of a virtual space man who seeing daylight now for the first time in over five hundred days after five hundred. twenty days of motion in its treatment. we have brought to prove that humans can go to mass we're told that we can help our. design even in the next to the future missions. and we're ready to get them to the next place to green their. this is experiment to see basically the psychological effect a trip to mars would have on the crew and how they would work together inside such a facility now those that took part in this are looking to be part of future
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martian missions this overhaul operation was an international cooperative mission the russian space agency working with the european space agency to put this experiment into into practice now the crew itself was made up from people from all around the world three of them were russian there was representatives from china as well as from france and central america who will find out a little bit what it's like on the scene where the mars five hundred module is we can now cross live to tom barton who is there tom what's going on where you are. well peter i remember on june the third last year watching this door behind me shot seals and that was the start of the five hundred twenty days which ended when i watched them the door open at last after all that time and the crew emerged little bit white faced a little bit bleary eyed into work into a cheering crowd after all that time they all stood together in front of
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microphones and they said how glad they were to work with their other crew members and to have got through what is really quite a feat of an jurors really to be in stice relation and with a very strict routine day in day out for all that time to discuss a bit more about this i'm joined by renee is head of the european space agency's office in washington. we never quite knew what to expect when we started this expect experiments and what you think of it up to this very long stretch of time. i think there are a lot of things that we have. the first. thing to do even with. all the data from the experiments is of course. see there are no general showstoppers in terms of medical problems britain problems presented proof of six or five hundred twenty days. on top of their to be of course also learned so much about
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a selection process because this was one of the crucial ingredients for for working very very together and then of course there are a lot of other medical effects and things which we have learned solution can apply even first. even for the us. of course as you say the selection process and it was primarily a psychological expert witness so what kind of problems were the up against what are the fears and how are they being overcome. but of course the biggest fear is that there will be problems within. five hundred twenty innocent days in isolation this is a very tough transfer of course. say that we can say that the group. has been working very hard very serious or all over the place in a trench of days each and every day of it and they really prove made interest in
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success. of thank you very much renee i mean i remember saying that some bookmakers have put eight to one odds on one of the crew going insane as a result of this experiment that hasn't materialized and i think they can now look forward to a deep brief period free of all those tensions well as. compensation for taking part in the mission age participant receives one hundred thousand dollars but they've also had plenty of time to try and work out what they're going to spend that. there were serious points of them being in there was the science that comes from us. and the people behind the last five hundred project have said this yes it has been a success. however in terms of the journey into the far reaches of space they are saying no that it is really not even the first step but the first step towards the first step of mankind flying off and going to hopefully try and set up
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some form of settlement on mars. rover and tom barton following the martian adventures for r.t. . remember you can always visit our website r.t. dot com for the latest news comments and videos here's some of what's there for you right now or should you log on to find out how nato forces face an investigation from the international criminal court into possible war crimes during its bombardment of libya. converted me appear to embrace the dominance of the u.s. and china he now ranks second between barack obama and huge untile in forbes list of the world's most powerful people those stories online and r.t. dot com.
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u.s. and u.k. officials have been quick to deny they're seeking military confrontation with iran statements were released by spokesman from both sides fairly media reports of a potential operation aimed at tehran's allege and you can hear weapons facilities however they did say the west has no intention of easing pressure on the islamic republic and would use what's described as a wide range of means at their disposal the likes of the u.s. and britain are expected to seize upon the upcoming i.a.e.a. report on iran's nuclear program it will reportedly reveal new intelligence about the alleged atomic activities and author agency says these threats are nothing new for iran. this has been going on for almost for more than four years now we used permanent threats against iran on the part of israel who are calling for a preemptive strike. on yahoo said or these two days ago and it all coincides with the débâcle is route israeli attack on southern lebanon in two thousand and six so i think we have to be very cautious and basically understand that what iran is is
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the cornerstone of probably what is an ongoing very tough negotiation to move forward towards a world government where russia and china are not going to bow in very easily to the western powers and iran is the cornerstone so i think the world we are seeing is we are probably edging closer to what might become a full fledged war in the region even a world war we are iran is the cornerstone if it is attacked by israeli american british or accomplished all three fourths of the. name of british media center attack on iran could come as soon as next november that prediction comes because the country remains resilient to international sanctions there is media site the u.k.'s ministry of defense and right all the sources to check out this story in full economic onto r.t. dot com. the california city of oakland is
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reeling off one of the biggest protests the occupy wall street movement has seen at least eighty demonstrators were arrested and several injured after their rally culminated in a heavy handed police crackdown before things got violent the protesters managed to shut down the city port which is the country's fifth largest without incident at the same time a general strike america's first in over half a century paralyzed several businesses in town oakland. well joining me live now is a man with his own means of peaceful protests all team author he's a poet and joins me live now in san francisco artie thanks very much indeed for being with us now i understand you come up with a novel idea of attracting the banks and financial institutions attention and you were actually inspired by the occupy wall street movement so in what way were you inspired. i think like a lot of people i had been sort of a background angry for several years and occupy wall street convinced me that i
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wasn't alone that it wasn't just me in my living room feeling unhappy but that there were a lot of other people around and then so that that sort of got me thinking about the background anger i've been feeling and at the same time i continued to get like most people in america these credit card mailers from the nation's big banks these are the same banks that ruined our economy by speculating and gambling on the housing market and the more i got these and finally just clicked the same things we were protesting out in the street the same companies were the same ones were clogging up our mailbox so that's what got me thinking about it all right so you got some mail in your hand then now tell us exactly what form your protest took what did you do or what are you doing now well. but what i realized was that inside these credit card mailers and again these are from the same banks that are the target of much of our eye or inside these mailers is a business reply mail envelope the way these work the banks sign contracts with the
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post office and or make agreements with the post office and the banks only pay postage on the envelopes they get sent back so i thought rather than send back a credit card application which is the last thing i want i could communicate with the banks in this way so i can fold up all the other junk mail i got that day by school catalogs all the envelopes newspapers put that in i can also put in a pro union message for the people in the mail room letting them know that the ninety nine percent includes them as well and then because the banks pay more in postage for the heavier envelopes we can also include this as i would shim it's the simplest piece of wood there very very cheap at a hardware store and when we put these inside the envelope it makes an envelope so rigid that it can't be processed by the normal mail folding machines they have to be sorted by hand which increases the postage and increases the labor costs for the banks want to call this a junk matters a scourge in most countries and i think many people be inspired and think what
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a great idea but some how can you be sure that the banks are actually getting the message and then mail service is on blocking the obviously end to all overweight packages that you're sending. well one answer is that i hope they are getting the message but the other answer is it doesn't really matter they pay the postage as soon as it gets scanned at the post office the envelope in suede it gets measured and it puts things on their account so even if the banks don't open and certainly the c.e.o.'s never see this i wouldn't dream that the c.e.o.'s of the major banks out there opening the credit card offers in the mail but there is a minute communication of this which is that banks see that their postage bills run up enough people do this it's going to have some impact on their bottom line and money is how banks communicate through to raise their costs we are communicating with them and letting them know that we know who they are and we are not interested in their offers what you will suggesting there could be interpreted as a breach of u.s.
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postal regulations are you not encouraging people to actually break the law will. not in any way these again via the agreements of the bank sign is that they will pay the postage on these envelopes you needn't go the whole holiday with this simply sending an empty envelope back is its own form of communication because it does cost the banks a small amount of money in postage so i'm not advocating that anyone put anything dangerous or illegal or insensible when there are some people about a kid oh i put the envelope on a brick or on you know all the spare change in my pocket or on paper clips that's actually not going to work once the envelope gets above about two or three ounces that would be about i think about seventy grams the post office will simply toss it right out but filling it full of paper or there's no no way for them to know what's in it and it's in no way illegal according to the post office regularly of course so you are trying to put a financial burden maybe a financial punishment on the banks themselves but the main essence of this is of
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course is to get the message to those banks and financial institutions think they really will listen. well a couple of things i understand that this is a very minor i even if a million people sent these back were talking about costing the bank a very small son what's more significant is that even a tiny act of protest helps people start to identify themselves as protesters again the ninety nine percent you know which is sort of the mantra of this movement as i understand it is a very big group that comprises almost everyone in this country but not everyone lives in a major city where they can go and occupy a downtown area so for people at home or people who like myself have day jobs and can't always get downtown to make their voices heard this is a small additional step that we can do. interesting idea thanks very much indeed for sharing with us our team of a poet and editor from san francisco and i think thank you very much indeed.
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the whole district attorney's country a wanted criminal in another this is the case of richard o'dwyer a british student who's facing extradition to the u.s. internet piracy in the u.k. if he was found guilty he would most likely get off with a fine but in the states he would face a much worse fate if he's on the planet has more. on the surface they're a picture of calm but these are very anxious times for richard o'dwyer and his family the university students facing possible extradition to america for alleged copyright infringement he ran a website providing links to pirated videos it wasn't a problem for british or foresees but rich is nevertheless a wanted man you know it's really just awful. frightening because you know if richard had done anything wrong we were quite happy things to be responsible but in this country where it was the full time the case is now being heard at this magistrate's court in london the latest chapter in julie's struggle
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to keep their son it home they told us that the family investigation in the u.k. had been dropped so it was like a bit of a sigh of relief when the next simpsons they said we've got an extradition warrant so many. and then you must go to the court immediately i thought he was going to be extradited like that day richard's website t.v. shack was a free stand post to pirated content including the latest hollywood blockbusters none of it was actually provided by him but that doesn't matter to america it says the site breached the copyright laws and claims he's there is to punish because the website's lucrative advertising was aimed at u.s. consumers this course is where richard o'dwyer spates will be decided royds on whether or not his actions are considered to be a crime in the u.k. this trial was his last chance to put forward his defense and now it's up to the
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judge to decide but according to digital lower experts the decisions not a tough one to make it's quite possible that he's only been guilty of a civil offense offenses you know something he could potentially get fined for and you know it's clearly a u.k. case as well. because he was doing this in the u.k. so really any catering to be extradited to the united states is not clearly was infringing copyright in my states told britain signed the extradition treaty with america in two thousand and three nearly a decade on controversy still surrounds it the u.s. can extradite whoever it wants without proof or hearing privileges the u.k. does not get the treaty was a muscle change for the government while in opposition but a recent review it commissions just deemed the treaty still fair several leading m.p.'s refused to agree though the commons home affairs committee calling for changes was a mistake in the first place to study history i think it was
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a mistake it's not a level playing field even with a partner like america we need to make sure that we are being equal and we are being fair to our citizens and that is not the case of the opposition against the extradition treaty is growing in westminster dissenting in piece of just force through a debate on it later this month and the parliamentary review on it is jew in the new year all this though maybe too late for richard he's just two weeks until he learns where they are america will get what it wants are given it r.t. hundred ton i thought that your small stories making headlines around the world in the south profoundest in the activists say the israeli defense forces seized two girls of boats attempting to break israel's naval blockade of the region tel aviv confirms its military chief has ordered the vessels to be intercepted canadian and irish boats carrying medical supplies and twenty seven activists from various countries set sail from turkey on wednesday israel's navy has halted similar
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protests ships in the past with night activists killed in the deadliest incident in the last year. syria has announced an amnesty for opposition fighters as long as they give themselves up to police for than a week from his claims of more violent crackdowns and protests by government forces after friday prayers doesn't appear to be part of the arab league plan which was accepted by damascus on wednesday and castaldo more that deal can end the bloodshed which is happening country over the last seven months. and in a few minutes we know you can join us these modern entries as he continues to explore moscow in his weekly series moscow about to be coming up the after the headlines state of the sit on r.t. .
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