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historic. dynamics. do. welcome back this is our live from moscow and these are the headlines reeses prime minister narrowly clings on to his trial following a problem of confidence vote after pledging a new coalition government but a total solution for the debt ridden country it still remains some way off. america's corporate protesters refused to give up the fight despite ever increasing tough police action earlier some one hundred people were arrested in oakland it for . the race for seats in russia's lower house of parliament has begun seven
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hello yellow welcome to throttle the international politics primes and today my guest in the studio is eve. the international committee of the red cross says it's not leaving libya colonel gadhafi is dead later it was dark but the conflict isn't settled yet as people keep fighting and many cities are virtually destroyed rebuilding the country may take years making libya another long lasting red cross nish. how does the red cross manage to conduct so many people in ferrying operations all around the globe and what are the primary issues the organization has to face we're asking the head of the red cross. the
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international red cross committee conducts several hundred humanitarian operations in some eighty countries despite its purely humanitarian activities the red cross is not always welcome the volunteers have to take between the warring parties sometimes coming under fire they also have to show diplomacy skills to some regimes especially in africa and not friendly towards any crime. i will miss the current thank you very much for being with us you better well this week the red cross was meeting with the c.e.o. of the head of the c.i.s. here which is the main the leading security organization or meeting them outside moscow what was the agenda of our the meeting we have to again that we have a very very strong relationship with this city or for another four years and i think we have two elements one is we wanted to share in fact our reading of what's going on now in the region central asia but also what's going on in afghanistan in
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libya in yemen in syria to make sure that we have a joint understanding that's one and the other element is to talk about and preparedness we are living a very very strange world even for the i.c.r.c. even for the red cross i mean things are happening with such a pass and such a difficulty sometimes that is important for us to be ready more than ever and it's important to understand that organization like this year steel are also ready maybe to intervene and to understand their point of view and to see how we can collaborate together either you or the red cross you work a very humanitarian organization and then you have different aspects but still while this senior studio is considered by many in the west and been rightly as sort of a major i mean like well like a mill truly military only a block they're also having really functions well how do you content did do you feel that you still have much in common with us so there's asian you have to know when we are where ninety people are working in libya you mention libya or syria or
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yemen or palestine or afghanistan every day dealing with people but also dealing with soldiers with military we know military very well we know the securities issues so these people are critical to understand but also to talk to that's one element the other element is there is no crisis anymore in a world without having a humanitarian element but there is also security element there is also economical and today so we very important to bring that together. any that send the c.s. to you with this seven country were present a lot of interesting discussions for us and interesting experience very important for us to be able to to have this type of discussions it's interesting that you consider the more security the military because they share this is right i think it is in giving conditions at least you know these days there's blurring line between military and security you should not look any more into just armed or a war i think what is a war today i would ask you a war is levy a war is mexico or what war is what is important is
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a look at it and judging by the fact that the last ministry of war was closed about seventy years ago they are called ministry of defense i know what's going on is true but what we seem to feel is mom or more minister of interior as the minister of defense working together what we see is securities issues about terrorism conduct terrorism which goes much beyond there just aren't and i think we need to be able to understand this kind of element very born for us and she. was present be actively involved in humanitarian operations after the conflicts in chechnya and also in south a city which is the southern borders of russia are you still involved there is there still work to be done for your humanitarian mission on the ground one of the problem is that in most of the conflict the conflict might end now we're not at the end long lasting consequences give you two examples also suggest yes we are the only international you made an agonising steel in south ossetia and we are helping more than half of the population not of issues there poverty but also direct
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consequences of conflict north caucasus yes we are still north caucasus we are in one cheek we are in grozny were in dagestan one of the reason is there are some direct problems still length with this region don't know about the missing for example from the former conflicts we need to be able to follow up very closely with the people and to understand their needs on the spot we are the i.c.r.c. we are the red cross what we do is we are closer to people we are trying to. understand their needs and their needs can change talking about something else you mention libya we are convinced today that we need to maintain a presence in libya to be able to understand where the conflict will evolve i hope i hope that the conflict will ends meet but we are rather convinced that we need to stay for a world to understand what might the be the problems and everything that they will do some problems in the coming months you know i worked myself with a humanitarian mission in africa for a couple of years in the eighty's and i are where was it. drought and famine and i
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saw red cross of action there i know that you guys you like giving hard times to authorities well this is probably not worth reading hard time but you this is this is by your job so say in chechnya in south a city or what you say there you're going to do to authorities or authorities. and deal with how's that will point of departure because it's never it's not about well a perfectly aberration because our point of departure is not to give a hard time or not to some people in our point of departure is really the needs of the people right and some of the needs are very basic but some of the needs are maybe more difficult to express and let's take an example missing person we have in the region people especially in a conflict which disappear it's difficult and we are the only one to come again and really to insist on the fact that this family they need to receive a response of course authorities are not very happy to have people knocking on their door remembering them that you need to do that it's not only true in in
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russia or in caucasus it's true impossible it's true in afghanistan it's true not of places but we need to be able to do that same elements to gain something different in terms of the tensions as one of example yes of course when we work in afghanistan when we walk in guantanamo our job is to make sure that gets new are respected and that international humanitarian law is respected so that's our job and we do that but important what we do we do that with everybody not only with one . we do that with every parties and we're serious about it years started talking about libya well let's take a look at the humanitarian situation in libya these days spotlights utility media reports. according to media is national transitional council as to mated number killed during the eight months of civil war is twenty five thousand that bodies have been found in mass graves thousands of families across the country are waiting to find out what happened to their loved ones who were accompanied by neda ass
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trikes resulted in hundreds of thousands of libyans flee the country for safer places some of them eventually found themselves only to leave the crowded lampedusa island together with other nationals fleeing from their arab spring and arrest those who stayed in libya have to face the shortage of water food medicine and fuel many regions have permanent cuts in the electricity supply the civic infrastructure has been so degraded it will take months if not years to restore them that the shops subsaharan africa and who came to leave as migrant workers before the uprising many of them happen persecuted by the forces of the national transitional council over allegations they serve as good guffey's mercenaries about one million sub-saharan africans are estimated to have wired leave years since the conflict started about seven thousand us do and the townson amnesty international reports
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too much it is routinely used against suspected could garfield the ists. is the red cross attaining the access to people who have been captured during the recent fighting in libya specially in such a place for example as soon as that which is which was conducted strongpoint from day one in fact we. it's to have access boss benghazi but also ensure that what makes a difference with between the i.c.r.c. a lot of other organisations we are trying to have access and discussing with all the parties yes we got that we got access to the conditions of i cannot speak about that because normally the first things we do is we speak first to the authorities made in general the concern you have and you would you express your journalists about what we call certain national people who have no passport are coming from sub-saharan africans are absolutely serious a lot of problems
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a lot of concern about about their fate or during during the situation and typically that's one of our priorities the tensions people detain are always all we have in their abilities so we are there to try as much as we can to make sure that they are respected and we follow that very closely but i must say i'm also very concerned about all health issues in terms of in fact infrastructure hospital were hit and we can see a lot of doctors and nurses left the country we need to make sure that there is ability in libya to have a health system which works again otherwise we will be confronted with very serious problems what can you say about libya from the quintile view of compliance to the wooden rules are very. humanitarian law i mean where they are they really violated jews it's in my experience and i'm sad to say it and i have not gone across and the conflict where the rules were always respected well i think all sides yes absolutely media in libya we had plenty of problems absolutely
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clearly on both sides war is even a truth or century a war is something the people do favor the rules let's put it that way i would say the rules are absolutely fundamental but it cannot just make an element it's not like driving and careful of what i'm saying but driving driving is critical if you there will be no rules people will be told me crazy but even with rules you have plenty of people who just don't respect the rules in wartime in a violent situation the rules are fundamental the basic. all of that it's means respecting people why wouldn't it for them and i think this is basic and i must say in media yes of course we had violations but important to say we were able to work on both sides from day one we were able to go in prison we were able to go into hospital and to really work it's not always the case i've been in other places where we're not even able to work a day one says eve the company director general of the international committee of the red cross spotlight will be back should be looking fingers interview the new found self they would. pick up.
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welcome back to the spotlight i'll be no been just to remind you that my guest osho today is a man who is the head of the international red cross is name is eve that car will. took a break when we started talking went libya well i want to ask about the was recent fighting the fierce fighting in suits and valley where leaders do two cities where the level of destruction well if we tried for what we saw on television was just enormous yes so what was the the level of human human suffering and i mean how many non competent people suffering there and lost their lives it's difficult to have precise figure especially in this conflict that we have heard a lot of different figures let's say served as a country as a town has been rather severally destroyed and our concern is in fact that
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a lot of system have been destroyed and in libya our concern is about water system it's a country if the water system is this or is problematic it's also about energy system no they have always we know that the system is destroyed that's problematic and then as we discussed before health system i would be concerned if you saw in tripoli when triple a fall we see that there was a lot of one the people not treated any more lack of doctors lack of nurses but also a lack of access to prison and that's maybe one of my major concern and we see that not only via by the way in syria we see that also in afghanistan where access to hospital is more and more difficult and it's important for us to make sure that access to under the hospitals to fair treatment is absolutely ensured in libya we need to be very careful that it's an invasion well you've thought about access actually the red cross spokesman mr steven anderson says i quote with the team found at the hospital in the suit was overwhelmed with wounded people so why the
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medics from from the red cross from the from from from the libyan red crescent allowed to two to get access to get adequate medical help we were we were allowed to get access and to be honest with you insert at that very moment it was during two days in fact the bombing in the shelling was so difficult that we are asking one thousand to go in the hospital and then to go to withdrawal because it was too dangerous and i didn't want them to be exposed you know. and in to take too much risk but very clearly some of our colleagues from the leading red crescent were able to work in the indian hospital and then we were able to do a difference in the hospital well let's change won't stick to subject but change the location syria is cross able to provide help to the two to the victims of violence in the country syria and syria it's a very difficult situation it's a complex situation we are the ice yes you we got the access in fact to the country so we are able to work in the country where we want to work we negotiate to have
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access also in prison as you know for us in prison it's very important why prison is this is where you have a lot of vulnerability and that's where people sometimes are faced with a very difficult situation and here i must recognize it's still difficult we've been able to visit one major prison in damascus but we are willing to visit more prisons and it's a it's an enum really looking forward to get the green line now from the government to be able to really work where we want to work in in the country yemen is another place where we see a situation ready to go out of control or actually actually it's developing into a full fledged military conflict does it worry you does it worry the red cross are you getting ready to do to get the leader of the yemen we are worried about yemen for europe some sorry to say transfer we perceive yemen or in a very difficult situation the countries almost caught in three days a different dynamic and it's true there is a lot of concern in the country now it's very worrying to see that even santa the capital of the country is now completely are would say torn apart by by the
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tensions there and yes we do think in terms of the humanitarian consequences yemen is in mind to be one of the worst country over over the coming months it's absolutely we're ready but i'm honest with you you never really ready to to face a conflict we have to you have a lot of their people are well trained they can do the difference but on the same time soon ever nor there for scale of the conflict and you have to be under about. about what might have a good rule do our best and we're already in our team is in sana'a inside our in hadn't been able to run through the difference here if i'm not mistaken with as a journalist a feel they're the worst the worst humanitarian situation that we have a witness that these in my lifetime and was the situation around well if it's true do you think that we can see something similar to what happened in rwanda that in the twenty first century were the personal community can stop things like that does have the leverage to stop. i'm shared you know on one side on my side with
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a never ever again but i thought before ninety four but we would never seen what we saw in rhonda's so when i saw what happened in london. i was so shocked so surprised i would quit my calling the world now with my colleagues where they're trying to treat people in the midst of the genocide now let's hope and i do think the world is changing and i think maybe what is changing is you and maybe not as journalists and media being interviewed really people outside looking at us they have not go by phone there is internet i think what we see in the middle east for example the the fastness with which image boards fly and influence people maybe need the best of what would make a difference and put so much pressure on all of us to go faster and to intervene that we won't see you wonder and it's interesting that you mentioned the exchange of images will the public display of detainees and mortal remains that was committed by the new government. in different countries of the libya for example
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and it triggered a great deal of reaction and debate so what does the red cross think about these issues in general what we say is very it's very basic we like sometimes to come back to basic you know in conflicts always useful to remember that what we're seeing is when somebody is arrested when somebody is a control under the control of people these people should respect the person that it that it was about detentions it's about wounded and that's what we expect very clearly that people are respected whatever their rank whatever their responsibility that's very important to be respected. following the liberation of this israeli soldier young girl the international committee of the red cross cross said that the glow plug of guns now violates the geneva convention which bans collective punishment of a civilian population that was a quote so was the captivity of july actually an official justification of the
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blokey do you get any signs any any response from israel which would which will tell us that the maybe a little bit absurd. we never ask ourselves why there is a blockage right i mean we can have different point of view if the work is for this reason or this one what we see is the humanitarian consequences of a blockade and if this blockade and months to i would say what we call collective punishment where an entire population doesn't mean we have the right to live as they said yes we did consider absolutely if the geneva convention apply and in this case the geneva convention yes we do actually consider is of your violation of of the geneva convention what we do we don't speak only about about that in the media what we do is we discuss that with the israelis but also with the palace you know authorities every day we discuss that in a must with hamas also everyday in terms of their responsibility of the whole works
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in order to make sure that people can have access again to help the water to basic basic needs what are the course will not be a person whose responsibility is only in sort of the israeli work if you can tell me. on whose side do you think the boy is today who is more able i mean israel or the postilions to to get it moving i mean the dialogue the overcoming the problems in the region i was it the goal is everywhere that's maybe the problem is there's not one ball and i think that we have several really a very serious several not of that's true and i think the question is not my senses when you see for different reasons you see a country or different country being blocked my hope was that the international community will be able and smart enough to bring these people together and trying to find solutions but here i'm talking almost as a citizen u.s. citizen of the world of amazing i hope we find solutions for the palestine and palestine israel problems if we don't i think we should watch out carefully what
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will happen over the next month says with syria with lebanon coming up possibly and with palestine i think we will be we confronted to have to deal with humanitarian consequences and i really i'm. i must say i'm not very optimistic if there is no real solution be found in the coming months now on the other hand maybe when the tension is very high then you sue some gesture i thought that the exchange of prisoners was a good humanitarian use let's hope it's not the only one but it now let's talk about. the problem in africa which is violent and there are i myself witnessed witness from an ethiopian now but i think some elsewhere area is facing a similar problem will at least event loop and they'd explode with the national committee of the red cross in somalia he said we want to feed one million people by the end of the year feeling only million people where the end of the year means a major problem so so is it really so it is bad yes the bit you really have to look
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at not only somalia you have to look at all of africa you mention it's all clear but you have if you look at all garden so money and possibly part of kenya we all know this is a region under enormous pressure to pressure or three pressure if you want to do one of these here twenty years of so exactly i mean yes exactly you have one colleague look at somalia i'm twenty five years of a lot of a very very intense conflict almost virtually no state no service and most importantly you have drought you had also floods and last but not least don't forget economic crisis and we all feel the economy crisis but the one really feel it are the people who have to pay everybody their price of food and the price of the food are going up there so yes it's a very serious people crisis and the most serious crisis is really in somali absolutely yes we are just getting you know one million it's serious and it's complex we can do it we have the absolutely the means to do it the problem is it we need to sustain this aid over time that's the problem of somalia and we hope that
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his aid also will help them just to manage a little bit and you know need to long term there that's that's really the problem all trolls a message here for this interview thanks so he's going to look in just a reminder that my guest today was either director general. international committee of the it's and that's so from our from all of us if you want to have yourself a spotlight just drop me a line of elderly on power. are you and let's keep the show interactive spotlight will be felt for more from kind comments all that was going on outside russia president stay on party and thank you. just a bit thank you have got a question. for
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