shinton studio for the second part of the audio on the show. it is time for show and talent tonight's program last week we discussed the general strike that shut down the port of oakland during occupying the city but we ask you at home if shutting down everything is an effective tool for the demonstrators and if not what would you recommend the protesters do to make their voices heard so let's go to producer for truth in a sense to find out what you have to say last week protesters at occupy oakland called for a general strike shutting down the port of oakland the nation's fifth largest port so occupy oakland stated that they were marching on the port to stand in solidarity with long shore workers a union spokesperson came out saying we are definitely not calling for a strike but some working people complained that they couldn't afford to lose money and i tough economy and the shutdown came with its fair share of controversy with

reports of vandalism plaguing a largely peaceful protest so was a general strike an effective tool for the movement did any viewers have any better ideas to get their voices heard well dominic said let's be honest make yourself heard but don't stop others from conducting business or getting home to their kids you can put your rights ahead of others dickinson told us not only should this have been done sooner but it should spread through every occupied rally until the whole country comes to a standstill so those found one agrees saying general strikes are great ways to get attention now as for other ideas i expend said they need to inform people there are ways to fix problems in the existing system saying this is simmons broken does not spread hope and philip told us he would like to see a political party for the ninety nine percent labor party that rejects corporate money so was a shutdown of the oakland harbor a good strategy for the movement while the mayor of oakland thought so calling it a good day for the ninety nine percent even though police arrested in tear gas does

it at the end of the day the protesters. did manage to shut down the nation's fifth busiest port yet based on your comments that's only a small part of what needs to be done in a much bigger strategy. now as always thank you for your responses and here's our next question for you earlier in the show we spoke about the growing wealth divide between the young and the old but some people say those numbers in this meeting so what do you think is there a real divide between generations to be concerned about or something trumped up to create an intergenerational warfare if you respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube you know as a response. now elections are underway in mississippi today and the truly insane at personhood amendments is being voted on as we speak and it's called initiative twenty six and leave legislation to find a fertilized egg as a person so legally it's totally incoherent the most terrifying part of it all is that there is a fifty fifty chance it will pass with the support of both gubernatorial candidates

democrat and republican now some people like current governor haley barbour have expressed their doubts about this measure. about shamo the ramifications will be true for. pregnancies where great credit she. should have followed. right. after your show you. but at the end of the day even barbara with his doubts admitted to voting in favor of the initiative in absentee ballot pretty pathetic so what does bill actually mean for the state and for our country as a whole well it's an obvious attack on women's reproductive rights but labeling eggs a human with rights carries a lot more legal issues with the title for starters initiative twenty six would make any form of contraception illegal but also make o.b.-g.y.n. z. even mothers more susceptible to civil and criminal lawsuits so should anything happen to the fetus say before the woman even know she's pregnant a woman could theoretically be charged with murder now with actual legislation is

only two lines long there. several problems with labeling an exit person as the huffington post asked today where the personhood amendment affects voter destructing after all that many more people would be added to a voting district if you have to count unborn babies what about tax forms should a woman be able to label her fetus as a dependent even before it's born and how would this affect current social programs or government assistance like welfare well frankly nobody knows because and no laws like this have been made before and the worst part is the people who are backing this initiative are aware of the legal mess that it's going to carry with it but they say go ahead and they'll wait and see how the state government figures out how to rule on each problem that might arise from the personhood amendment but i'm going to take a moment to pause and ask what the hell is going on with this country month after month we hear about social issues that become legally dubious ballot measures all pushed by fringe right wing organizations and now in mississippi the religious wing nuts are working so hard at this pro-life bill that they don't even care about the

impact of the current wording of the personhood amendment would have on doctors women the government even taxpayers in general throw all common sense out the window there's a moral war to be waged give me a break. now you could say that it's a big day for privacy at the supreme court after a spate of different rulings across the country on whether or not the feds can attack can try to attach g.p.s. tracking devices to a person's vehicle without a warrant one case is finally making it to the supreme court cases of anton jones a former club owner in washington d.c. who police suspected of running a drug raid and police actually did obtain a warrant in that case but they placed a tracker on a jones his car after the warrant expired and then monitor his activities for a month now question here is the fourth amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure the justice department argues that you have no expectation of privacy in a public space and g.p.s. trackers much like beepers attached to cars which the supreme court has already ruled on or police physically tailing a suspect they think that only monitors your movements and public g.p.s.

technology just makes it that much easier to do but seven justices today already seem to signal they're an ease of the idea just as briar for example said that if the government wins the case there is nothing to prevent the police or government from monitoring twenty four hours a day every citizen of the united states and followed up with sounds like one nine hundred eighty four so could this case be a game changer or is it just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the constant surveillance by both private and public actors who discuss this with me as julian sanchez a research fellow at the cato institute joining thanks so much for being here tonight always great to be on so i'm curious as to what it is that you think of some of these arguments in terms of well if you're driving in your car than you're in a public space and you know you don't have any reasonable right to privacy and it's just like the cops tailing you do you by that i mean you know i don't think that's a fair analogy to all the asli but this is very different this is a technology that allows monitoring on a scale as the appeals court that originally ruled this. search on that really

wouldn't be feasible right i mean it's expensive to have numerous cars telling someone over time and you have to keep swapping cars in and out to make sure you don't lose them to make sure it's not obvious that the same car is following a person and it's certainly not. for any police department anywhere in the world to follow hundreds or thousands of people at the same time when you talk about the advanced methods of ecology that are used to track people now which is not just g.p.s. tracking devices but methods like cell phone tracking or other kinds of satellite tracking or even aerial drones these are methods because basically used to track the entire population so isn't part of the problem in this case because there is maybe some chance that they're not actually going to rule on whether they actually need the warrants or not i think the justice alito threw that out there today but isn't part of the reasons why it's so important because we want to be able to know whether the authorities are using these g.p.s. tracking devices too often whether they're abusing the right because there is no record at this point yeah but you know you want problem

a huge problem that actually a lot of that is for judges of rays which is that because there are new reporting requirements for these kinds of surveillance we actually have no we don't have any wiretaps they're done every year but we have no idea how often the police use just technology to follow someone on their cell phone or follow a thousand people on their cell phone or ask the phone company to tell them everyone who is at a particular place at a particular time it's a total black box now one of the things that i find interesting too which i guess you could really expand upon it here is so that the government is arguing that this is something that is public and so just because you have a new technology that's arise you can make something that was once public more private as if you think that that's an issue that we're going through as we become more rely on certain technologies we start depending on our cell phone our smart phone our car for everything that we want more privacy for where we once didn't have it so it is worth noting that right does it does make a difference the fact that someone is moving around in public as observed visually is something that's already public g.p.s. signals emitted by you know

a secret device implanted in your car is actually not something that's public the argument is well ok that's not public we don't all voluntarily admit g.p.s. signals that we think anyone can intercept but it's the same as being. but it is worth noting that they're observing actually a very nonpublic thing here and just trying to make an analogy to a public thing but it doesn't quite fit right there's lots of things we do in public that we expect to be private if we walk down a crowded street having a quiet whispered conversation you know it might be that any one passing might hear a meaningless second of the conversation but we also understand that we have good reason to expect that our whole conversation as we walk if we don't see someone you know walking up close behind us isn't going to be overheard so if someone uses for example a long distance mike to pick up that conversation they're violating our expectation of privacy even though we happen to be in a public space and there's you know lots of ways you can move around in public in places that you know it's a public space but you don't think you're being observed you don't think your pattern of behavior over time certainly is being observed in a way that reveals who you associate with you know what church you go to whether

you attend a yeah you're driving in a public street but normal people who are followed physically on the street by the same person for a month twenty four hours a day call the police because that's a stalker. and i gather that says to you that's where technology changes they're going to be walking out the street so be it behind you tweeting everything that you're saying to your friend you'll never know about it until it's too late it's worth noting a lot of states have already passed legislation basically to make it illegal for a private citizen to do this kind of thing you know to have someone you're interested in decide to put a little bug on their vehicle and i think that's a pretty good test right if this is just like being watched in public how come so many states are passing laws that say no it's actually not at all like that and we don't think private citizens should be able to do it and if we think it's creepy you know wrong when private citizens do it then it's probably something the police should get a warrant for right now i want to compare this to. we're talking about when you're driving on the street when you're walking on the street what about when you're on the internet right because we keep hearing of this is this sounds like nine hundred

eighty four i think you realize the fact that well you know yes my actions are being tracked probably by the government or by law enforcement at some point but they're also being tracked by a lot of these mark zuckerberg gave an interview to charlie rose where he. they said if you look at companies whether it's google yahoo or microsoft that have search engines and ad networks they also have a huge amount of information about you it's just that they're collecting that about you behind your back they're collecting this huge amount of information about who you are but you never know that so he's trying to obviously defend facebook because they get a lot of flack for it but do you think that that relates here in terms of our expectations of privacy at all in terms of the worth of men and i don't think it is i mean it might you might be used to make a basis of an argument about the kind of privacy people expect for the fourth amendment regulates the government not private parties and you know congress is sort of perfectly capable and with a man regulating private parties more. you know i think the issues there are typically better dealt with by you know people themselves trying to find their own

ways to keep themselves as private or as public as they want right we need a whole range of technological methods you can use i use you know to make it difficult for third party sites to observe me if i don't want to be observed and there's not a whole lot you can do you know i mean there's no browser plug in that will stop the police from putting a secret bug on your car or for making the phone company give you all your cell records you know there's a lot of things i can do to stop google from tracking me right now lastly enforce i'm going to have to wait a while until the supreme court actually rules on this in the meantime people are still getting tracked wired reported today the guy in california just found two devices on his truck but if you had to take a guess i mean is this an issue that both conservatives and liberal justices could kind of agree on the most amazing thing about this is if you look at the list of amicus briefs it is like i mean it is a bizarre cats and dogs living together who's who of groups that you would never expect to be together the cato institute filed an amicus brief the a.c.l.u.

frontier foundation gun owners of america i mean left right everyone basically is on the side i think of privacy in this case it's a it's a it's a funny moment in an era of division well let's have the supreme court rules that way to healing thanks so much for joining us tonight was a pleasure. now sort of how come your immigration status should be checked before you get any medical care. congressman i told time award tonight and also had a happy hour obama cozy doing a little trash talking on t.v. last the obsession of ron paul now includes a calendar national small. clusters that say much to me personally i mean if you would like to give a real creationist the hero of crisis without and eurozone leaders and national governments continue to be of loggerheads on how to rescue a currency. from los angeles to chicago to birmingham twenty trauma centers have

closed since two thousand severe problem is not enough inpatient beds not enough urgency department beds and not enough nurses to man those deaths to take care of all the people who are the only real health care system that we have in the city of los angeles is the los angeles fire department in fact when i started my venture is a firefighter i didn't want to turn it around so i started out i want to just do firefighting it's about eighty two percent of what we do the farther problem is medical that's not a risk you couple weeks and waited for hours for i've waited sometimes three hours but i was it's a same francis' in lynnwood for four hours and fifty minutes standing against a wall with patients and we have a federal law that mandates that you can't turn no one away who seeks care in an emergency room. we have the most expensive health care system in the world and it's probably valued

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our guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight goes to iowa congressman steve king now the republican has a long history of bigoted comments directed towards undocumented immigrants living here in the u.s. back to do thousand and six while speaking on the house floor about a border fence between the u.s. and mexico he said that he thought it should be electric saying we do this to livestock all the time now fast forward a couple of years and representative king is still as hateful as ever this week congressman king is touring i well with the value voters bus and he was asked a few questions by our friends over at think progress as answers were frankly pretty unbelievable herb or asked if alabama's tough new immigration law has gone too far or require schools to check the status of all children and forces you to lety companies to shut off water to homes the don't provide proper immigration papers and this was his response. to what you already asked someone to phone their status whether they have to be there to be legal legally in the united states that

the world i grew up in. the way that i grew up in a police officer and see somebody on the street saying why are you here what are you doing why are you i don't know we. know we get to the point where these you know you can take the position that one force will get your job. personally i'm a little confused about where exactly steve king grew up sounds to me like he lives in a police state i have news for steve just because someone's walking down the street police officers don't have the right to ask you twenty questions is not law enforcement's job to know who you are what you're doing at all times in fact it's the opposite we live in a nation based on laws that protect our civil liberties laws the limit search and search and she's seizures excuse me for reason so that nobody in the us has to carry their immigration papers with them at all times no matter what the color of their skin is now think progress then followed up to find out what representative king thought would be too far in terms of asking people questions about their immigration status. so you can think that. that's what. the book

but. i don't know why that would be fair you mention your. so congressman king doesn't understand why i would be too far to ask for somebody's status at a hospital before they receive treatment well let's think about that for just one second what that would actually look like how many people would die in the e.r. waiting on treatment while some florida clerk tries to find out if they're here legally how many people would die because they didn't feel safe getting treatment for fear of being turned into immigration. you know that amazes me how hateful the g.o.p. ideology has become when it comes to immigration issues specifically yes we need comprehensive immigration reform here in the u.s. but the fact is that there are people that are currently undocumented living in the united states it's a human issue but in steve king world those people be made to live in more fear than they already do left to die in hospital waiting rooms or too fearful to even go to the hospital to begin with and that is not a country that i think most americans want to live in so for a congressman steve king

a wanting to quiz people about their immigration status at hospitals before treatment he gets nights full time aboard. i guide for happy hour and joining me this evening is lauren lyster host of capital account on r.t.e. and conservative journalist kevin glass thanks for joining me guys thank you for having our first story here i am assuming there is consensus but if there is one band that could be called the lamest band of all time it's this one. all right so for anybody who isn't aware i'm sorry that i had to force you to listen to that but that's nickelback and so they're supposed to be playing the

halftime show for the detroit lions on thanksgiving day one the most anticipated home games of the season but already there's a petition out there with forty three thousand signatures asking producers to reconsider and it says detroit is home to so many great musicians and they chose nickelback does anyone even like nickelback is this some sort of ploy to get people to leave their seas during halftime to spend money on alcoholic beverages and concessions it's completely unfair to those of us who purchase tickets to the game at least the people watching at home get their teeth oh my god i love this story because when i saw it on twitter this morning i thought oh maybe nickelback like did something that people protest to like they played in a country that they didn't approve of or whatever i didn't realize that there was that widespread loathing of nickelback because they i've always hated nickelback i felt that solidarity that was really what people were protesting just that they aren't good now you know they were off and they just want to or have to let's be honest here detroit is motown you know it's the home of a great musical tradition and having nickelback

a canadian band come down into detroit to play this you know it just doesn't make any sense you know they've produced stevie wonder they have aretha franklin and even if you want to go modern if eminem and kid rock for example are your wealth of knowledge i went to a great meal i usually in kid rock would be you know a welcome addition and you have time but only friendly now even mitt romney usually engineer and reserved entrance music he's going. his ways but yeah nickelback sorry. that's just the quotes are so good too because they weren't like you know on anything really you know fundamental they were just like what is it it's not even rock n roll it's some like horrible mix serves or you know just kind of around the turn a rock that's that. home on the radio and my dad like you know it just doesn't belong there i got to tell that to somebody that often ok so on to our next story ryanair is the really cheap airline that you can you know fly around europe now i believe they're making you charge for toilets that they kind of you know they differ in terms of what they offer to the people of the cheap seats and for those that want

to pay more here's an older a clip of their c.e.o. actually talking about some of those differences. to be business class and an economy class and the economy tends to be very cheap i mean you said ten you reach across the atlantic but the business class would be very expensive so an economy to be very cheap fierce a chain you need any business to be big and big jobs. jobs well you know you're going that far but kind of close what he wants to offer as a paper view service so there's an app of people have i pads that they can watch porn on the plane. some people were very. disturbed by this in our early morning meeting i don't really see what the big deal is what you guys think i mean the man is an innovator ryanair is an incredibly low cost airline anyone who spent time in europe knows that you know it's five pounds for a ticket to go from london to italy and you know he said that he wants to take out all but one toilet on the plane and then as you mentioned charge people to use it

he's trying to survive in the i guess a very competitive airline economy i didn't even know this technology existed i don't know you know how they're coming up with it you can already have corn downloaded on your i pad and no one's going to stop you so if you're able to buy it on the plane as long as you have your phones and keep your hands on your pants and seem to keep your cancer cells what's a big deal the bottom line is that it's working for them they've been profitable are doing well during a time when airlines are totally suffering so these tactics are working they also offered berlusconi they were he was he was the face on their ads for the ninety nine fares for him to be able to get out italy now we'll see if going to take him up on it now that he's resigning i've flown ryanair it was a pretty miserable experience that maybe maybe it will be next time or into the future because. we brought this up earlier in the show but there are you know there is audio of this but reporters heard a little something between president obama and sarkozy and barack obama and nicolas

sarkozy are now being quoted from a conversation they had about israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu the exchange was overheard at the g. twenty summit sarkozy reportedly said of netanyahu quote i can't stand him anymore he's a liar president obama then responded you may be sick of him but me i have to deal with him every day journalists who overheard the remarks at first agreed not to repeat them but the comments were published in israeli newspapers. you know i always kind of like to know that politicians actually might have a little bit of a sense of humor that they this isn't that you want obviously to be recorded and for the public to know but just like joe biden saying like this f. ing deal i like to see a little bit of the human you know humanity in that well and at least this is a little bit more highbrow they're talking about world leaders and world policy as opposed to what we hear in u.s. congress where they're bantering about golf it's a little bit of a kind of high school gossipy thing it's kind of you know when your coworker comes

to you at the water cooler and says i don't like working with ben he's kind of a jerk you know and in politics are taught to treat every mike as if it's a hot mike because you don't know what's going to be turned on you don't know who's going to be listening and i don't i thought that obama's was just trying to diffuse or cozy so that you could walk away from the situation just say you know oh yeah i have to deal with that with netanyahu as well you know but i'm not obviously agreeing an apology. i mean the opposing idea that i have you know them all the time to be honest you kind of it. but you know the first rule in politics here is we just assume your mixer hatami that obviously no one listens to it provides great fodder for us to joke about. ok very. obama had a really hot obama girl i think you might do this. ron paul now has a calendar of his fans and they say in this battle for the hearts minds and souls

of men and women i feel our best weapon may in fact be sweet persuasions and i think we have. what you think of it when you buy those based on your i mean let's be honest libertarians are known for having a little bit more of a fun loving vibe than the average republican and so these women obviously want to be raising money for ron paul praising his campaign profile and you know. they're going for they're going to have some fun some of our neighbor dave's or not answer the question. i mean to record their babies i am so sorry you are already out today as they so much for joining me tonight that's a good night so thanks for tuning it make sure to come back tomorrow only on a cigar associate editor of the nation is going to be on the cell discuss this week's developments in the paint scanner case meantime difficult for a fan to be a lot of shell follow ups on facebook on twitter watch everything and you got complex a lot of fail and coming up next you think it's. the

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