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doesn't say iran is building a weapon but it says it's collecting all the information it would need to do so and western forces aren't saying they want to start a war with iran but they are collecting the information they would need to do so so will the new i.a.e.a. report on iran's nuclear potential ammunition they need to mount an attack and all the sounds of anyone else like the akhil of iraq circa two thousand and three. and survey says are considerable amount of americans harbor anti jewish attitudes and the intolerance is only getting worse as the economy heads south and so all countries all over the world remember the international day against anti semitism the americans do the same. i think it's the reality of the world you live in
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a way towards nine eleven the safety precautions that. you know we have to take safety precautions are one thing but this is washington d.c. where the buildings look more like fortresses than symbols of american freedom and prosperity and then your face security is just a way of life welcome to the new american reality. it's wednesday november ninth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for watching r t. well after much anticipation and speculation the international atomic energy agency has released its latest report on iran's nuclear capabilities in it information about the development of new technology relevant to the production of nuclear weapons that could suggest perhaps iran may be working on
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developing nuclear weapons and this has been several years of gathering information and teligent from ten member states interviews and satellite imagery and suggests that many of the activities associated with the nuclear weapons program that was supposed to stop in two thousand and three has in fact continue including successful attempts to obtain nuclear military equipment and attempting to develop nuclear components for a nuclear device officials in tehran deny all of these charges i can we really are sentiments that are only seeking peaceful use of nuclear energy if this was the most comprehensive and critical report yet and as our team going to take on reports it's raising fears it could be a pretext for a future attack on iran. that would be u.n. nuclear watchdog found no smoking gun but hide stuff here's that your brain continues research on nuclear weapons doesn't say iran is building a weapon but it says it's collecting all the information it would need to do so and has a lot of technology in the year international atomic energy agency claims to have
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a rainy and computer models of a new three warhead which the watchdog uses a possible indication that he ran plans to build an atomic bomb among other evidence as a satellite image of a steel container that's might be used to secretly cast the high explosives needed to trigger and nuclear weapons i would be very skeptical about this report that's coming out from the international atomic energy agency because the doesn't really have any intelligence capabilities of its own and if it's relying on reports that are coming from other people i would rather suspect those reports are coming from the united states and israel the precedent of u.s. intelligence presenting false evidence to build a case for the war in iraq raises alarm bells as to the accuracy of the atomic agency's latest report on iran's you may have a piece of evidence of some kind but that piece of evidence is subject to your interpretation as to what it means when they saw aerial footage photographs in iraq
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showing certain things they interpreted those photographs to mean something which which was it was not correct back in two thousand and three the u.s. was adamant its evidence on iraq's weapons of mass destruction in paris the city was as solid as could be satellite images of a base where saddam hussein was believed to train and qaida terrorists evidence of mobile labs for biological weapons aluminum tubes presented as components of centrifuges to enrich uranium all of the above proved to be a hoax. and yet it was enough to start a war that would last eight plus years and kill more than a hundred thousand civilians israel is considering military action to take out iran's nuclear facilities preemptively to pressure me now is the un's atomic watchdog groups would serve as a justification to start a war with iran security experts say the consequences for such action would be
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catastrophic we would most likely see new kinds of attacks probably on israel as all our other groups we see attacks on american troops perhaps in iraq and afghanistan even more than what we've seen so far iran i mean could retaliate in conventional terms that could attack saudi arabian oil fields if you really want to see a crisis in the air in the international economy despite tough rhetoric coming from both israel and the u.s. many agree that washington and tel aviv are most likely to use the reported political leverage to try and isolate iran and possibly to put a dandy lurching economic relations with china no one community wants you grant to have nuclear weapons but what they fear is addressed to get unilateral action by israel's with the backing of the united states that the region on fire at a time when needed as on stable as millions of lives could be in danger is policymakers in washington or tel aviv decide to jump the gun and start
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a war on grounds which are far from being transparent i'm going to start now reporting from washington r.t. all right and with the release of the i.a.e.a.'s report there are some simple questions and some more complicated ones that the findings show that iran is in fact going forward with a plan to acquire nuclear weapons is there room for discussion for as g.o.p. presidential candidate ron paul says i chance to try to make friends with iran and who are the people who gave this information about iran for the report in the first place and finally who would benefit from increased evidence that iran is in fact developing its nuclear program all eager if it's a national security reporter at think progress toward having to dissect in some of the findings in the report i asked him to give me his take on all of this. well i mean i think the purported to have a lot of damning evidence in it that at the very least iran is working on. dual use aspects of the nuclear program that could be put toward civilian use as well as
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military use weapons use and that's true of also some. components of a nuclear of a potential nuclear weapon weapons program that could be conventional military uses versus nuclear military uses and certainly a lot of these programs were be run by are being run by iran and there's even a few items that were in that detailed report that were items which the agency said that it couldn't find viable non nuclear weapons uses for them so it was a pretty damning report but at the same time i think that one of the important conclusions to be drawn from it is that the report did not point to necessarily an iranian decision to produce a nuclear weapon which is sort of in line with what experts have been saying for years now that iran is on a program of ambiguity and perhaps working towards what's called a breakout capability which is kind of being a scrooge screwdriver turn away from
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a nuclear weapon without actually building a weapon or testing one or do you think there is that as much cause for concern certainly there is a new development in there and reason some people may be able to say that iran is in fact sort of violating its commitments based on the nuclear nonproliferation act but do you think that there is as much cause for concern as a lot of the mainstream media and a lot of political leaders are making this out to me. no i mean i don't think the report was sort of stunning in its detail but not stunning in its conclusions you know with the summary of paragraphs at the end of the main section of the report which which is separate from the technical and next that discussed the actual parts of the program the main part of the report the conclusion upgraded the language from the last report which was four months ago and now instead of instead of increasingly concerns the i.a.e.a. said that it had serious concerns which i guess is a step up in
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a way but i don't know that the report really other than the level of detail it didn't tell us in broad strokes anything that we didn't know before and didn't prove that there is a. cohesive iranian nuclear weapons program or a drive to definitely get a weapon or that a decision has been made so no i don't i think that some of the media and certainly a lot of right wing politicians have been exploiting the the you know what the the big headlines around the report to push for more aggressive actions and i think that that has been a bit of an overreaction. but no i don't i don't think i don't see it the way they do i know we just showed a news report and it's if you can put something together and it was in there and i've been hearing and quite a bit of other places that this comparison with iraq the case of weapons of mass destruction which made out the case for war i'm wondering if you think that this you know we should believe what we're hearing and this from reading what we're
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seeing or you know is there you know is there actual cause for concern based on those findings. well i think that there is cause for concern but i don't think there is a causus belli here and it is quite different than the iraq situation in the case of iraq a lot of the intelligence was being driven by the u.s. and as you pointed out in your package earlier that's possible that that's still happening a good report that it's getting information from a number of different member states as well as doing its own research and this is the conclusions that it's strong on and you have to remember that. is the one driving these intelligence estimates rather than the u.s. now the u.s. has probably had a lot of this intelligence for longer than the. has and has probably had it longer but the one that's bringing the case out publicly is that. which is not the same as during the iraq war build up when it was the bush administration that was that was pushing the narrative into the headlines and using often flawed u.s.
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intelligence and exaggerating reports in order to build a case for war so they're different but at the same time i don't think that this new report. has created a cause for war that is going to get a lot of hopefully public approval you know we spoke about this issue yesterday also on our show with jim oddly the policy director for the national iranian american council and real quick ali i just want to play a small part of that interview and then get your response. sure there is no option to stop iran from developing nuclear weapons capability through war you can't knowledge. any military operation against iran could maybe set the program that they had in place back a couple years you can't stop a program and what it can certainly do is convince iran to pursue a nuclear weapon and right to throw out the i.a.e.a. and actually make that decision so what about this notion this is a little bit different side of the discussion here that you know whatever they have
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already is not going to go away. yeah that's right i mean i think that there are a lot of comparisons being made to israeli airstrikes on the syrian reactor a couple years ago and the rocky reactor back in the eighty's but those were single site nuclear installations that israel was able to easily hit with with you know basically just one run of a lot of bombs that iran has spread its program across the country there and there and it's a bunkered program there and protected installations and moreover as jamal on he was saying there there's not really a way you that you can stop iran you can't bomb iran out of its nuclear program that's just not going to happen though. an expert with the washington institute for near east policy which is a pro israel think tank and b. c. the summer gave a talk and issued a paper where he said that an israeli strike on iranian nuclear installations
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because their limited capabilities could delay the program about a year and an american strike because of increased military capabilities had delayed about three years so you have to start to ask yourself is this something really worth it to delay the program for three years and start a war that could easily expand into a regional war as in fact some israeli intelligence service heads have said recently fairly thin in writing on my real quickly i want to just get to you know sort of the foreign policy side of this as well with china i know that there are some who assert that the u.s. wants to you know pretty damper on iran's economic relations with china let's not forget also china relies pretty heavily on iran for oil so i'm wondering what you think you know you look at what's going on in china they're building the majority of the rebuilding to go on our port there they're certainly busy of business ventures what about this china iran relationship. yeah i mean i think that here in
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the u.s. that a lot of people that you see especially people from neo conservative quarters in washington all have kind of a cold war hangover and they would love nothing more than to deprive communist china of some of its oil and deprive iran of some of its oil revenue and i think that that's part and parcel of it but it just reinforces the point that i should put territorial energy sections that is sanctions where you want to or you want to sentient companies that are operating in third countries are really hard to enforce because it is a global oil market and when you start to do stuff like that it is going to drive up the price of oil cross the globe. national security reporter with think progress or and try to as you just heard western powers are starting to beat those drums of war against iran after speculation the country may have the ability to create a no nuclear weapon but you know it seems u.s. politicians just are using these scaremongering tactics against iran not just iran but the region as
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a whole and according to former cia agent michael scheuer americans are in the crosshairs of terrorists worldwide because of washington's policies in the muslim world not because terrorists hate freedom and democracy. washington's enemy is an enemy that doesn't exist we're fighting and an islam economy that washington believes is out to kill us because we have elections because we are free because we have women in the workplace is an enemy that doesn't exist doesn't exist when they live in was alive it doesn't exist now america is being attacked because of its foreign policy in the muslim world because of its support for israel because of its support for the saudi police state because of its presence on the europeans and until we accept that until americans can say to each other whether you support aid to israel or not our relationship with israel is causing this war we are not going to be able to defeat this enemy and israel itself as
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a country is not the problem the real problem urged is the leaders of the jewish american community in the united states who influence and corrupt our congress to support israel when we have no interests there and the american political establishment is caught between two things they're extremely put pro israel and they're almost marxist in their belief that democracy in the spread of democracy is inevitable in all places in all peoples at all times and so they need to protect the israelis but they can't say what is a reality for example there is not going to be a democracy in tunisia more or or or libya or egypt that in any way resembles democracy in the west and yet what they've done is create anarchy they've created a situation where the only beneficiaries are the islamists. the guns that have flown out of egypt out of tunisia out of libya to the islamists have been enormous in their volume and the prisons that were opened and egypt tunisia and libya have
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reinforced the islamist groups across the world so they're mindless they're mindless pursuit of secular democracy at the end of the day and dangers the stability of the region and probably the whole world the truth is american and western foreign policy interests in the middle east have depended for fifty years on the maintenance of tyranny tyranny that pregame us access to oil tyranny that protected israel and i know in the last twenty years tyrannies that persecuted islamists to protect us all of that is going by the wayside and the israelis credit these railways are the only ones who have stood up and said democracy may not be very good for our security and they couldn't be more correct and if it's written is real attacks around the americans will get blamed for condoning it whether we did or not so i think what we're seeing is a slow almost inexorable ed vance toward some kind of
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a conflict with with iran. that was former cia agent michael scheuer and to see artie's entire exclusive interview with him is it had to our website r t v dot com . well today is international day against the semitism and fascism widely recognized across europe november ninth one thousand nine hundred eighty eight was the day the nazis again their program against the jews setting synagogues on fire and vandalizing stores and businesses owned by jews many see this as the symbolic start of the holocaust so we wanted to take today to look deeper into a new published a study by the anti-defamation league that examines american attitudes toward jews in this country there were many facets of this but one of the most significant things we found is that anti semitic attitudes have increased in the last couple of years with about fifteen percent of americans falling into the most anti semitic cohort out of those people there are some interesting attitudes about the power of
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jews in america. this bar graph was taken from the report and shows that seventy eight percent from that group think that jews have too much power in business sixty seven percent say they have too much power in the u.s. overall and seventy one percent from that group say that the jews control wall street a little while ago i spoke to the national director of the anti-defamation league abraham foxman it was in our studio in new york and i asked him to respond to these figures as well as some of the implications of this report. yes i think every time there's economic instability or social instability anytime people are unhappy anxious about their president future they look for scapegoats and jews have been a convenient scapegoat throughout the ages and money and jews is a convenient stereotype throughout the years and so when we see an ongoing instability when we see anxiety in terms of people's futures they look to blame
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somebody and jews have been blamed throughout the ages and wondering now i really want to be careful here and make sure people our viewers know that for this survey which i believe was conducted a few weeks ago. seventeen hundred plus people were answered questions for the third day so despite the fact that you know that that's how polling works we want to be really careful in saying that those answers are automatically translate into the opinion of thirty five million americans i mean how do you deal with those kind of questions. well you know it's it's polling is not an exact science but it does give you an accurate picture of people's attitudes how they feel again we have developed this index forty years ago the index has been pretty solid in terms not only in the u.s. we europe hundred in russia as well and what basically is that if you answer
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six or seven out of the eleven questions. just saying yes jews are too powerful jews killed christ jews are only care about themselves you know if you crack like a duck walks like a duck act like a duck duck i want to move on to this recent thing that happened this you could call it the hoops my microphone was on and i didn't realize that moment the last week and france at the g. twenty this was a conversation between president obama and french president nicolas sarkozy sarkozy called the israel prime prime minister benjamin netanyahu a liar and president obama was overheard saying something like you know you're fed up with them i have to deal with them every day several g.o.p. candidates have come forward demanding that president obama apologize and i know you've written about this you said that the a.d.l. is extremely disappointed that this isn't presidential. i guess expound on on this what do you think the president should do assuming that this is a true statement i'm not on assume he said it you know i think we would all be
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shocked if other conversations which are private i wonder how they feel about i will not and i wonder how they feel about president bush so you know i don't doesn't get us anywhere whether what the president does or doesn't do that's for him i think it is however you know it's a serious question that if those are the added to those are the feelings to what extent it influences foreign policy and i guess the same question could be asked about president and what their personal feelings about president obama or. or the chancellor merkel or sarkozy to what extent are they and that's a very serious question to which we don't have an answer but we certainly should be concerned we certainly should be concerned certainly i think you and i might both find it interesting to be a fly on the wall in the conversations of some of these world leaders and i want to ask a quick question though about the a.d.l. i know that our producers here at r.t.
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had originally hoped to have a debate about the survey and sort of see the different sides of it but i know when our producers booked the interview with you with your media people they said that you'd come on the show but that you wouldn't be willing to debate the position of the ada a.t.l. i just wanted to give you an opportunity to say why i mean isn't debates a good way to forward the conversation. well i'm not sure the great was great an anti-semite which was one of the original suggestions you know what to do to defend anti-semitism so i don't understand what debate is we have a survey if you you know. the polling data the procedures the techniques are not ours they're there they're what every polling institution does so i'm not sure what it is that we're going to debate if there are people who say that there is an anti semitism that's why you're you can title you can have whoever you want i'm just not about to discuss with somebody who's i don't think there's anybody
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serious who doesn't think there's anti-semitism now to what level have they done polls have they studied are they scholars and the people you know that there were floated by me i don't fit that category i have no problem so we can discuss the issue with people who disagree. you know before coming on the air with all due respect no i was not going to debate an anti-semite and some of the names that were brought forward are not in our judgment serious people but i you you have you can go on an hour later and put on whoever you want to question and challenge i appear on panels and forums and and debate but i think the debate whether there is or there isn't anti-semitism i'm not sure has any value well regardless if you think it's an important discussion to have abraham foxman national director of the anti-defamation league i thank so much for coming on and sharing kind of a take away from not serving right when i just say something i think the very fact that our t.v.
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focused on the anniversary of the seventy third anniversary of kristallnacht to take the subject and to look at it and still examine it is something very much appreciated and just indicates a sense of history a perspective that you have and for that thank you very much. and here in washington it seems architecture is being shaped by post nine eleven fears from bomb proof glass to constant surveillance of physical barriers it's obvious that security is a top priority here but who do these measures really protect our g correspondent liz wahl takes a look at the changing landscape in washington and there's a look at who is being protected and who's not by these intense security measures. it's important to remember remain vigilant in our efforts to defeat terrorists enemies and protect the american people. this however it has changed the landscape of america's capital this street leading to the white house was months old and some
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motorists now it's blocked by barriers and dollars i guess it's sort of makes it seem more important you know a lot to run a car into. the supreme court a marble masterpiece polaroids now online it's and durrance the same site around the capitol you're guaranteed to find bollards just like the surrounding just about every high profile government building not architects calls a bowler and envy read these don't simply service protection as a symbol of bureaucratic status what worries me is the having certain buildings. would hold points out that nine eleven attack the twin towers and the american people not a federal building he questions the priority to protect a special few and set up a public. under a terrorist threat we can we. reduce all of us you know.
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it really made a lot of sense it would all or a person can. order but some say they're willing to sacrifice is that expressed safety i think it's the reality of the world we live in a post nine eleven safety precautions that. you know we have to take others save the structures are a reminder that fateful day reminds me of nine eleven and all the security structures that were up around the city at that time with all the worries that the nation's iconic and historical buildings are turning into eyesores but it doesn't have to go downtown. new buildings being. healed. or it really. looks. like these ball are like barriers disguised as flower pots. but for now these structures however unsightly will remain
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a permanent fixture in any city fixated on security and bureaucratic status in washington liz wahl r.t. we end tonight in california where tensions are getting heated as protesters on the campus of university of california at berkeley face down police in riot gear hundreds of students there are fighting against cuts to higher education cuts they blame on big banks now this is a new chapter of this movement as students are hoping to set up an occupied occupy style encampment on campus with school officials have already said this won't be tolerated and apparently as we speak police there are trying to stop that from happening now at this hour there are conflicting reports about exactly what's happening some of which say several people have already been arrested and that some students have been beaten and that at least one grad student has been taken to the hospital but be sure to tune in tomorrow or we will give you the latest details
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about exactly what went down there. and that is all the time we have but for more on the stories we covered that are c dot com slash usa or check out our youtube page at youtube dot com slash r.t. america you can also follow me on twitter at christine for that thanks so much for watching have a great night. i am going to thank god for the police. to make a protest that nobody seems to know. that never a pepper spray to face the argument that they're being overly dramatic.
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