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they charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleep you think you understand it and then you blimp something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know. the big picture.
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i'm more and mr. peters to believe in a. test that nobody seems to know. that never appropriate to face quite hard the argument that they're being overly dramatic. it's time for show and tagalog tonight's program how much time to discuss the growing wealth gap between the younger and the older generations country however
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some guy claimed the most recent numbers are mixed reading and you'll inter-generational warfare that of reminding everyone that they are the ninety nine percent so is this growing gap something worth being concerned about the producers recently sent to you to find out what she had to say. young people enjoy having money and a good job just as much as the next person compared to an older american they have a lot less of both the good jobs and the good money now after all the older generation grew up in a time the pensions and enjoying booming economic cycles but most of all they have jobs now those older than sixty five now have forty seven times as much net worth as the typical household headed by someone under thirty five years old so while the wealth gap is undeniable is the divide between generations to be concerned about or something trying to create an are generating a warfare all steve said the numbers that show older people way ahead financially may be skewed by the fact that the richest one percent are just older which lends
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the data to favor older generations laurie told those young people had trouble getting their foot on the ladder but the elderly struggle to get a meager pension she said i don't think there is an age divide a brother would said the baby boomers are about to relinquish their demographic advantage their generation has always taken care of itself and always will judging from your comments the majority seemed to understand that i've been on the card ship is not limited by age so many blame not one percent no one really believes it's time to break out those signs and protest in front of grandma's house. now as always thank you for your responses and here's our next question for you the show we spoke with geoff thompson about the republican candidates for president slabs or lack thereof to take on the economy to let us know what you think what questions would you like to see answered on the economy by these candidates you can respond to us on facebook twitter and he was cute and he knows your response just like me. now in a rare turn of events if you mainstream media outlets have actually decided to turn
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their attention to guantanamo bay this week sick used prisoner on a cheery finally faces a military tribunal and a sure he's accused of being the mastermind of the two thousand bombing of the u.s.s. cole in yemen which killed seventeen sailors and the obama administration has stated that it's working to make machineries trial more transparent and past it move military commissions but as of right now hard to tell president obama has made any real efforts to change much of anything but the tensions that tension are in cuba and he certainly hasn't taken any real steps to close the facility so let's take a look at get go through financial perspective after all it is the thing most expensive prison on the planet and an air of tightening budgets you think our government should be asking if it's financially beneficial to keep these detainees abroad or the us a recent article by karen rosenberg of the miami herald explains why this prison puts any detention center here in the states absolutely to shame when it comes to cost so exactly what makes it most of most expensive prison on the planet got to start everything and i mean everything that is provided to the base
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is imported the a barge or aircraft the obama administration revealed over the summer of the d.o.d. drives about one hundred fifty million dollars a year and eight hundred thousand dollars per detainee each year now keep in mind u.s. federal prisons spend about twenty five thousand dollars per prisoner per year so that's a pretty huge difference in spending our prisoners are also have their own kitchen health services but money is also spent on the captives cellblocks those prisoners who show good behavior and are cooperative have access to satellite t.v. . with news and religious programming they also have an extensive book and video library and a detainee is offered up to forty five hundred calories a day in food some of which is whole all over a good portion of annual budget goes towards the military and general staff of c. for them the cuba detention center is run like a base where officers can bring their families live on site and still get paid the hostile fire and imminent threat rates of their fellow soldiers receive in war zones like afghanistan and all the pay very thin soldier rosenberg reports that
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a petty officer third class with the navy gets about two thousand nine hundred eighty five dollars a month meanwhile a navy commander with fifteen years experience earns about seven thousand eight hundred forty dollars a month but the pay isn't the only part saffron guards have their own gym dining rooms and a movie theater in what's called camp america and what about of the city itself it was a temporary site when it opened back in january two thousand and two but they're getting a lot of expensive upgrades very expensive upgrades for starters they're going to drop two million dollars on new computer equipment it was also getting a new guard corps headquarters and a new infirmary to replace their aging prison hospital now each of those projects cost seven hundred fifty thousand dollars so now the images of where some of that taxpayer money is going i'm going to repeat something that i brought up several times before why is quantum obey still open president obama originally ordered the base be shut down almost two years ago and based on the amount of fresh
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construction plan doesn't really sound like good most shutting down any time soon so perhaps seeing some of these six seven eight digit expense reports might encourage some of us to take some sort of some sort of action sooner rather than later. now on the show we constantly talk about the shadow wars that the country is fighting abroad the use of special ops teams and drones in yemen somalia and most frequently pakistan the inconsistency of reports between the cia and human rights organizations when it comes to civilian casualties and of course the. questions that about now in a new report philip alston pinpoints the legal uncertainty the results from the incredible secrecy of america's targeted killing program including a lack of congressional oversight and judicial review and media coverage that's dependent on the cia for those leaks now this according to alston means that there is no meaningful domestic accountability for a burgeoning program of international killing and as a result he concludes that this undermining of international law and the setting of legal precedents will inevitably come back to haunt us so joining me from the
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studio in new york is philip alston former un special rapporteur on extrajudicial some marry and arbitrary executions he's also professor of law at new york university and co-chair of the law school's center for human rights and global justice philip i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight and i just want to get some start with the basics overall when it comes to sending in special ops teams for a raid where it's targeted killing or sending out a drone to strike and have a targeted killing planned do you think that that's something that is legal. well in principle it certainly can be is nothing to nothing to stop united states from having special operations teams nothing to stop them from using drones nothing to stop them from. doing this sort of night raids they do a lot of in afghanistan. but there are still pretty detailed rules that apply
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assuming that they are doing this in the context of an armed conflict of warfare and the question is whether they then abide by those rules or whether we knows so little about what they're doing we're not able to conclude that they do respect the rules well so you know one of the problems of course with the cia now taking the lead in regards to the drone program is that the cia doesn't have to report on its drone program they it's secret and so we only get little tidbits here and there and you think about a really again jurist staff that's being taken that the cia has more control than the military is it worse than the cia does i guess you could say. well the frightening thing about the cia which runs basically all of the drone program and carries out all of the killings that take place in pakistan is that they quote neither confirm nor deny the pair is any such program so if you want to know anything about it there for more responses about what we don't know about this.
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and then is what does the public know about the public knows what's been leaked by the cia so you've got leon panetta saying we killed bin laden killed number three we've killed number x. . and a few details like that combined with assurances that the program is highly effective but if we go any further and say so tell us how you run the program do you actually do the same sort of targeting as the military does do you follow the same rules do you abide by the law of armed conflict they say it's all secret we can tell you anything about it nothing at all do you follow up do you know if you've killed anybody well first of all we can't tell you but we can assure you we haven't ever killed anyone well i ask any military expert and that's ridiculous the sort of operations are messy they're complicated inevitably civilians are killed but we can't investigate there if we have no information at all so my argument would be
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that the cia by carrying out this large scale program of killing hundreds of people totally on the basis of secrecy is violating the international law that requires a degree of accountability explaining what's been done and showing that the rules are being followed and it's clearly not satisfying any form of domestic accountability. well you know who do you think has to be more vigilant or i guess you could say that it's probably everybody the press needs to be more vigilant but you also bring up the fact that there is a completely free pass coming from congress here same thing when it comes to the courts and why is it that way is it too is it too easy to ignore or too complicated to try to get into discussing the legal gray areas somebody too scared to try to stop the program. i think it's too complicated first of all it's being solved on the basis that this is really essential to the fight against terrorism no one's
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against the fight against terrorism everyone wants that to be effective to put an end to terror activity. the question is whether in order to fight in the fact of the it really is essential to carry out all of these targeted killings in complete secrecy now the public finds it very difficult to distinguish we go back to the killing of bin laden but the question is who carried it out and we hold up the seals and the the j. soccer as it's called special operations of the army and say they did a superb job but of course technically it wasn't them technically it was a cia operation which is why leon panetta was briefing us all about what was happening the military didn't have the right to go into afghanistan under u.s. law so what do we do we simply put the military under cia control and send them all
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in but the problem is that the cia remains as it was always set up as an intelligence agency to be gathering information to be spying on people to be undertaking covert activities around the world that it wasn't set up as a killing machine it wasn't set up to be identifying targets then working out how they would be taken out as it were either by drones or through other assassination work and so they also want to set up to provide any form of accountability for those sort of actions the congress applies no serious scrutiny there isn't a single informed observer who thinks that congressional oversight of the cia particularly in relation to these sort of issues is even vaguely effective the object of evidence none of the iraqi just for one second here sorry but we have our eye on a couple seconds left there and you conclude basically that at some point the u.s. is that this is going to come back to haunt us can you elaborate on that. sure
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there are some fifty countries now that have grown capacity for ferde biggest manufacturer is china so china is selling but also developing its own drone force clearly this is going to be armed the question is what rules do we want to enforce against china if we are going into pakistan to yemen and other countries and saying look we can shoot these drones regardless of international law or what is there to stop china or iran various other countries whose track records were not particularly happy with from saying we're going to play by u.s. rules in other words we do what we want to just like you guys did there won't be any accountability no transparency we don't want that now's the time to set up rules now's the time to say the u.s. will play by international law and we will demonstrate that either by compelling the cia to act in accordance with international law or moving the whole program
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over to the partner of defense which does basically respect international law definitely a very important point to make is the right it's not going to be just us are using us drone technology around the world for long thank you so much for joining us tonight but my pleasure. now coming up one republican senator is so posed to gay marriage they actually try to claim that the u.s. is too broke to support the benefits we're going to tell you give me that policy claim and my school time segment put on tap for happy hour wal-mart wants you to start black friday shopping earlier this year and should the big banks be awarded time magazine's person of the year award for right back. on. to the police wrecking. but what a protest nobody seems to know. but never ever
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sprayed a face by talking to the argument that they're being overly dramatic. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then a glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok. i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.
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our guys it's time to try it's tool time award tonight goes to texas senator john cornyn now on capitol hill today a senate committee held a hearing on appealing a defense of marriage act doma as it's called it's a federal law that doesn't recognize gay marriage from the states and bans gay married couples from federal benefits so clearly a lot of conservatives support it because of their values but just look at what the republican senator from texas used today as a reason to legally discriminate against a very couples the second reason i support dorman is that repealing the defense of marriage act would actually result in an expansion of federal benefits and spending at a time when we know that or that federal spending is way out of control and our entitlement programs are unsustainable so gay married couples shouldn't be entitled to benefits because the u.s. is broke it's too expensive some recorded one thousand big balls actually use that excuse now for those of you that are unaware here in the u.s. if your spouse dies you can try some of that you can draw some of the dead spouses
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social security benefits children and the age of eighteen can also draw benefits the person passes away it's one of the social safety nets that help protect families when a loved one died but according to send their corded if you're gay spouse dies then screw you the u.s. is broke sorry social security has no money you're on your own gay people never mind the fact that social security is not broke but if you for years and congress doesn't operating all the funds paid into social security it just might look broke that's another story for another day now back to some of the corn and he also used this excuse no one no one has paid into the social security system expecting then if it's to be paid to same sex partners and it would be unfair for state laws to determine the eligibility for social security survivor benefits which are a federal benefit not just a benefit. so no one paid into social security thinking they gay people might get
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benefits out are gay people they work and pay their taxes should they be entitled to the same benefits after as little trait tirade senator john cornyn was still not done that in a marriage equality but i think the reversal we're seeing on the defense of marriage act a federal law not a state law is just another sign of how out of touch there's some of our friends across the aisle have come. been with the american people on this issue and i think unfortunately and it said let me say this this knowing that this bill will never become a wall in this congress i think it's a transparent appeal to the special interest groups that our democratic friends believe is the key to their electoral victory in two thousand and twelve so you think the democrats are out of touch on this issue has john been living in a cave an a.b.c. news poll released over the summer shows that fifty three percent of americans now support same sex marriage and the trend line on every poll in recent years shows that more and more people support the issue so senator cornin it's you and the
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republican party they're out of touch period and that's why it's at the center of john cornyn is tonight's tools i'm leader. sorry guys time for happy hour and joining me this evening as our two plays are jenny churchill and lauren lyster house staff capital account on r.t. hello ladies thanks for joining me thank you ok so you know we're going to talk about last night's republican debates again the other day where i want to shoot myself in the head as a boring but you know there was ok i also don't like to obsess over the herman cain saga but this answer that he gave is too good not for a minute so let's take a look. my character and my children so you move in and think you know. every person that comes forward with
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a false accusation there are probably thousands who could say none of it. came from herman cain. if you're trying to convince the world that you are guilty of sexual harassment thank you will still be like but there are thousands of people i didn't. and i love only with there are probably oh no god i can't believe. i think someone in this morning brought up the amazing point that a serial killer could say the same thing you know i may have killed forty people but there are like a thousand that i didn't get around to i mean there's like a couple billion more on the planet are doing just fine still worry about me considering that you probably should have said that you know there are seven billion people on this planet what's one more or he also referred to himself in the third person which seems to be his new thing which i have to say is almost as annoying as the stupidity part of that comment not really in
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a third person references yet not so much i get into that and i'm your president is running around right person i am ok let's move on to the next one i don't i've never actually done the black friday thing i don't know if you guys are you get i have like four o'clock in the morning and you stampede well ok let's show people what the stampede usually looks like at wal-mart that has been gathered before take a look. police say what happened here this morning was utter chaos they call the stampede about two thousand people lining up outside the store just before five o'clock this morning when the store was supposed to open some of the folks were chanting open up open up the crowd surged forward and literally pushed down the huge glass and aluminum doors duras knocked down this thirty four year old sales clerk and while he lay on the ground as you said hundreds of people trampled over him. it's horrible the horror of that of just being trampled
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to death but so this is what christmas shopping unfortunately results in america and so that. we could. be shopping equals debt because they're going to and you're going to get what you do right now you know let's just cut it down it's easier to just like and lend back or logic balls equivalent to you just. let's just show you. how crazy they're getting so now best buy and target decided that they're going to have people in at midnight on thanksgiving night now wal-mart is saying that they're actually going to start doing it at ten pm and i actually got a living social email telling me about a deal at a hotel so i could stay right next to the hotel right next to the wall in the hotel for black friday so i could be the first shopper there it's another to much i've actually had the unfortunate. experience of working a black friday at a best buy and it was literally the craziest thing i've ever seen in my whole life
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i showed up at three for work and there were people literally camped out and then everyone was just in the worst mood and screaming and fighting over like twenty dollars deals you're getting twenty dollars off a television well but here's how this i was for the world it was like i'm fed up with this me i'm going to you know i guess i go back to the people who still think it's a normal black friday and they show up at three in the morning thinking that they're lining up at the store to open and little do they know about all the good they could have got a ten pm when it really opened but that's the really big advertising all and i'm sure it's coming soon let's quickly move on to our next one mario batali saying this show has a lot of famous restaurant sure as well so he got in trouble because he basically said when speaking of days of the week the bankers talk all the way that money is distributed and taken most of it into their own hands is as good as stalin or hitler the evil guys that time is featured as person of the year and so now there's all this backlash and basically gloss. people are saying fine we won't eat at
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restaurants and when tweeter actually had a really good point to mario batali said good luck getting the people of the park to pay one hundred dollars for a plate of pasta. they got their way because he came out and apologized obviously bottom line is more important than his criticism of bankers because he backtracked he made a funny video i didn't really need it you know i think he did mean it and then he realized that he was biting the hand that feeds but i mean i have to say i think that it's fascinating that he said in the first place what i mean i just for him to not realize or to not understand the question there is yeah i mean your blinkers who else is going to that restaurant gets her story just because i write i make or there are some percentage. of journalists over there i'm a fan or ok this is just nasty to take a look. it's called find a pox party in your area geared mainly toward sharing chicken pox virus among
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families who don't believe in vaccinating their children has anyone had success sharing the chicken pox with someone out of state by sending them something in the mail another response i got a pox package in the mail just moments ago i have two lollipops and a wet rag and spit. it just so wrong either i had chicken pox and of the kids i understand it's both miserable if you get it when you're older but are you going to give your kid there any lollipops by somebody else who had that you can tell my kids are going to have the back scene there for this will be an issue and i won't have to accept goods from a stranger that they have a lick i mean i think you keep it under the radar this is such bad p.r. for a movement that is already you know they are yeah back in the day they used to do this when everybody got a chicken pox you go over to some kid's house you had it you could get it over with but now there's no holding a lollipop that's just wrong anyway i got to wrap it up partly thanks for joining me tonight that's a very nice job thanks for tuning in
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a shooting for back tomorrow and weinstein is going to be on the show discuss how the u.s. is currently spending more than we did during the cold war on the nuclear program meantime got to get the fantasy launched on facebook followers on twitter if you miss anything if you've been to the flash the letter still unclear if that means. in canada and the us that it is legal for you to get a bubble bath and your baby it contains a known carcinogen something that causes cancer most of the shines out of most independent they are sponsored by the industry and most of the guys braved the plates of conflict of interest today an average cancer drug prescription costs nearly one thousand six hundred dollars a month oh my god i'm
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a nobody with cancer and my father and therefore i protect soldiers because the navy to ninety five percent of the cancers her people with health funding history of cancer the pharmaceutical industry spends about fourteen percent of their budget on research and development and about thirty one percent for marketing and ministration. in fact there are more pharmaceutical industry lobbyists in washington d.c. and members of congress. to. be official anti hopefully cation. point called talk from the. lunch all sheesh life on the go. video on demand all cheesemonger old cars and ownership streets now with the palm of your. bush on the call to.

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