tv [untitled] November 10, 2011 9:00pm-9:30pm EST
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oh i'm telling are going to washington d.c. and here are three of the many things coming up tonight on the big picture first the g.o.p. presidential primary debates are back in full swing and there was no lack of entertainment at last night's debate on c.n.n. you see a little substance was rather hard to come by and second new video of police brutality at another ninety nine percent protest in california stores sort of joined by a patriot who was caught in the middle of all of that and our third story tonight. let's see the camps the third one i can't. hoops.
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you need to know this no one has been on television more today than texas governor rick perry why because he's desperately trying to do damage control after his debate performance last night in which this up. and i'll tell you. it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone commerce education and the what's the third one there let's see. all five ok commerce education and the. e.p.a. there you go to. that seriously. what
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you are talking about are those who are talking about this agencies of government e.p.a. he can be rebuilt but you know he had about you can't name the third one the third agency of government i would i would do away with the education the. numbers right back to the commerce and let's see i can't the third. one opes fifteen minutes later he remembered that it was the department of energy that he would eliminate place for the next. that's why i've offered to ship to rick perry a case of edison factory trishul supplement for most of the sponsors of my radio show can prove brain functioning and memory what about herman cain and heading into the debate dodging allegations of sexual harassment all eyes are on cain to see how he performed and if you thought he'd be careful how he talked about women think again as a cain said about former speaker of the house nancy. but legislation has already been written h.r.
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three thousand in the previous congress he was h r thirty four hundred and put beddoes has already been written we didn't hear about it in a previous country the previous congress we got princes nancy send it to committee and it stayed there it never. later again admitted he probably should have made that statement and then today he said that he was just fine with it but this gap shouldn't inter cain too much from his book tour that's masquerading as a bid for the presidency side from the circus of rick perry and herman cain there was a lot of seriously troubling stuff to take away from last night's debate for one thing none of the candidates had any coherent answers to the biggest economic crisis facing the world right now european debt crisis. as president what will you do to make sure their problems do not take down the u.s. financial system. to start with two things first we must grow this economy so to be clear focus on the domestic economy and allow italy to fail focus on the
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domestic economy we see so yes nobody running should we allow italy to fail should we have a stake in what's going on in the euro zone right now but my view is no no no we do not need to step in to bail out banks either in europe or banks here in the u.s. the may have italian debt the right answer. tribute to the international monetary fund and the i.m.f. has given one hundred fifty billion dollars to the eurozone a saying the u.s. should stop contributing to the i am sure you must recognize that this is a moment to moment situation for people look for work is no reason to live and you would just like just go away and take our banking system with if you have to let it you have to let it liquidate just let. her round up on last night's republican debate highlights and lowlights i'm joined by my panel of three guests. partner with both sides doubters strategies we know where this is going to generate a syndicated columnist occasional in your host and sam sachs progressive strategist
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and well our third let's see i can't the third one. opes and the way. welcome to both. rick perry jobs and they're so they're so easy in there they're going to become such a terrible cliche but there was some actually shocking stuff last night the right off the bat the question about italy biz genuinely horrified me it was clear that the moderators knew more about this issue then either of the guests here. so you know just this week this big group of economists and economics professors came out and said that if they were grading the. republican candidates when it came to economics one hundred one they don't get enough and i think that's a good display of that i mean anytime jim cramer from c. and d. c. sounds more rational and levelheaded about these issues but any issue than somebody who wants to be president of the united states you should be scratching your head because you know that that that series of questions and answers about italy was
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more telling about this field in this debate than they we've probably gotten out of several debates and yet sam isn't how we sort of got what we asked for i mean in the setup of the debate they said you have sixty seconds so you know here we are complaining about lack of substance sixty seconds yeah well i mean i don't know how to solve it i'm not an expert in a crisis but i would expect they would know a little bit more than i would in for herman cain to say the way this fix this is a dollar is a dollar just like an hour is an hour and mitt romney say italy can handle their own problems want to pick the u.s. and iran poll to say let's just liquidate it all it's insane i mean i think let's just liquidate it all as what andrew mellon told her hoover in one thousand nine hundred nine it doesn't work but. the fact they weren't pressed on that is is a sign that the media and in these debates aren't doing their job to where herman cain can just give ninety nine is every answer that's that's probably a actually do want to do what mellon told over twenty i mean seriously do. right
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that's what they were all say. they don't believe in evolution but to believe in economic darwinism and you know last night what we saw and the reason that you know they get the thirty seconds they get the sixty seconds is because we're all still watching this reality show republican survivor where you've got the one or two people that might be the republican nominee and then eight other people who will never be president will never be the republican nominee in two years when it we're going to call them the two thousand and twelve also rans the best they can hope for is a contract with talks news when this is open and yet we're treated to it over and over and over again and only benefits the front runner mitt romney because it keeps him from having to dig even past just a little bit on the surface on any issue because he's only going to talk about it for thirty seconds because the keep. basically heritage foundation cato institute hardly ever going to be on the starting points it's only thirty seconds while it's
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benefiting the koch brothers to serve it that whole ideology the herman cain sexual harassment allegation got the resistance. just by bringing it up on the moderators . in this case the american people want jobs but they also want leadership they want character in a president in recent days we have learned that four different women have accused you of inappropriate behavior. here we're focusing on character and on judgment is that a c.e.o. . you know that so why is asking the front runner in the field to run for president of the united states about whether or not he's you know about five women who claim that he's committed actual crimes against them to a potential arrest and assault and so and two of whom he's actually settled. why would that a listen i think you i think you have to change your expectations that
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republican debates whatever you would expect from a reasonable compassionate audience you have to expect the opposite from the audience that debates that cheer letting sick people die the cheer the death penalty and everything like that i mean here's a very important issue that has been all over the news this is what people are talking about and here's a front runner that has serious crimes against him that someone once asked whether or not he has the character be president and they were booed off the stage pretty much the moderator as well you know i i don't necessarily agree i'd like to think a little bit more of republicans i think that they were booing herman cain's behavior in relation to those four women i realize that the most ridiculous thing i've ever said on your program but i would always wonder where you're going with what but at the end of the day only one person has been able to discuss this subject openly and that's herman cain or pretend to talk about it openly you've got one woman who's come forward and had a press conference you've got another woman who's talked through her attorney but the two women who have settled with herman cain are still not allowed to talk
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because the n.r.a. the national restaurant association has these you know confidential i agree confidentially confidentiality agreements with them if we're going to get to the bottom of this herman cain and the n.r.a. need to look these women talk and that's the smoking gun i mean there was a settlement something happened here and for herman cain and fox news and everybody else to say this is all smoke and this is all a democratic boy well that's that's not the case there's yet they they they play it up to a point where they say that sexual harassment isn't real it doesn't happen some people say these women asked for it by the way that they talk with their boss literally i mean it's another subtle ensued that had to do with his running a company where he was encouraging people to buy that stock a company's stock for their retirement plans and it went down and there was a lawsuit but you know anybody questions about his campaign manager i mean who. songs i mean or his lack of campaign staff he was the only one that's won in this entire sexual harassment scandal is blockhead his campaign manager because we're
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still not talking about his campaign finance violations you know secure little story thousand dollars. in expenses away from the herman cain campaign so there over the past three years college is getting more and more expensive outstanding loan debt over a trillion dollars at some point this year it's going to hit it it's going to seed or it has already exceeded credit card debt we've never ever history the united states had anything like this it's harder and harder to find a job here's what the republicans have said is that the student loan program began when lyndon johnson announced it i think with a fifteen million dollars program that sort of certainty what does it do it expands the ability of students to stay in college longer because they don't see the cost would you kill the radical student i don't think the federal government should be in the business of paying for programs and building up huge debt out there there's nothing more dramatically failing then in that program so no there is no authority in the constitution for the federal government be dealing with education we should
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get rid of the loan programs we should get rid of the department of education education pay for it how do they do now pay for college if narry not the way you pay for cell phones and computers yeah you know that two hundred bucks on the cell phone and that four hundred on the computer that would buy a good education or it would be a great education you know if you could get out a payment plan something tells me harvard is not going to lower their prices to the levels of chemo bori t.m.t. . this is this is what republicans do i mean when we talk about the elections this past week being you know an overreaching by the republicans that wasn't overreaching this is what republicans believe this is who they are and this is what they would do if they were elected and that was on display when we're talking about student loans and the debt crisis that these you know twenty somethings and thirty somethings. many of them not being able to even many of the forty fifty and sixty somethings so we have who lost their jobs that are going back
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to college to try and get skills you know but there is the promise we made when we told them to get a college education because you get paid better in the workforce they did that then we said ok you actually need to get a master's degree and they did that and there's still no jobs and the republicans have no plans to either help these students or to create jobs for them. and they're comically tone deaf here we have a crisis a trillion dollars that's never happened before student loans outstanding student loan debt and they want to cut sort of loan debt just like we have unemployment jobs crisis and they want to cut unemployment benefits just like last year when he had he had the spill and they wanted to raise the cap on how much b.p. has to pay out republican filibusters that big oil companies are making over hundred billion dollars and republicans don't want to cut subsidies i mean they're just completely tone deaf everything that's going on there and i think the fox news is live and all these other conservative media outlets are kind of letting them get away with it in this fantasy world well i did plays right into the g.o.p. cheating you know it it's it's really quite remarkable crawfish same sex thing both
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against and. coming out things are heating up again at the ninety nine percent movements in oakland and now in berkeley how many more people need to end up unconscious in a hospital ward where the police are held accountable for the way they're treating protesters. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it through it including me who can you trust no one who is in view with the local mission would see where we had a state controlled capitalism. sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.
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thousand to two hours those are young men and women in the crowd who are having nightsticks violently shoved into their stomachs meanwhile in oakland where police brutality was taken to another level two weeks ago when two time iraq war veteran scott olsen was critically injured and sustained brain damage after police fired tear gas canister and it was there are fears that another violent police crackdown could be looming yesterday members of the city council joined by the local chamber of commerce press beef briefing bashing the occupy oakland movement and calling for it to be broken up with media and according to a police source oakland police and cancel all training exercises for next week which is a pretty good indication that the cops are making plans once again to clear out the occupy camp outside city. so it could be only a matter of time before oakland police again turn the streets into
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a war zone but first let's get to what how to cal berkeley yesterday for that i'm joined on the phone by you about a lark a participant in occupy cal berkeley a national organizer with the coalition to defend affirmative action creation and immigration rights and fight for equality by any means necessary you know that welcome i think here great to have you with us what happened yesterday what did use . well first of all what i saw was your version for a new and very powerful determined young movement where there were students and protesters from the communities are absolutely united unanimous together to stand for the ninety nine percent against the one percent and against the whole system where profits have been put in for human needs such as has to change and one for our main fights that we were protesting around was the fight for higher education and for funding for our schools in california and so we were protesting we had thousands of people who were out there who were united and then we had
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a general assembly meeting and voted almost you almost unanimously to stand up together and set up an occupation and encampment but very shortly after students started setting up the tents. the police moved in to try to snatch and steal our time and so students just and the protectors we would not expect because we have a right to protest we have a right to fight for our schools and our universities and so we stood her ground we stood firm and we were united and despite the fact that the police were ridiculous and absolutely brutal me the people around me on so many specially young women as well as young men who were out there we wouldn't back down despite the fact that they sent one graduate student to the hospital he was in i.c.u. as of last night and despite the fact that they really tried to hurt and scare people going people away from asserting our free speech rights education it
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backfired on them and i continued we just got stronger and stronger and despite the fact that the police cleared the tents twice and despite the fact that the us at least twice two rounds of it we were stronger than ever and by midnight we had three thousand people who were occupying and u.c. berkeley. i'm proud to stand up for the right you have thanks so much for the report. but it was now to my panel for the latest on what else is happening in the ninety nine percent movement around the country i'm joined by joshua holland senior writer and editor with alter net and sarah seltzer journalist associate it with all that welcome to both of you. thanks thanks for joining us joshua so far as far as i can tell the score is thirty five hundred sixteen arrests of prototype protesters occupiers i'm increasingly calling them a tree it's on my radio t.v. show i'd love it to be a meme that catches on and i think people should start putting flags all around
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these things as well i mean you know granted but in any case and zero arrests of banks toure's do i have that right that is right that's the tally through last night so that doesn't include the thirty nine who were arrested at u.c. berkeley and it doesn't include a few others that were arrested today well and what what is the latest just what's going on in oakland is another police crackdown in minutes. it certainly looks that way as i mentioned in the opening the seventh cisco chronicle reported that police had canceled all training exercises the next stage would be to cancel vacation time and leaves and to request assistance from other departments if you'll remember the original crackdown there were as many as seventeen different local law enforcement agencies engaged in it and the four council members who came out yesterday along with the chamber of commerce which one might expect to kind of decry the occupation and demanded to ouster also threatened mayor jean kwan and said that if she didn't
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forcibly remove them quickly rapidly they will perhaps hold a non no confidence vote against her so she's feeling pressure from. you know being buffeted from the left for the for the violence in these crackdowns and also for from the right for allowing the tires to reach a pleasant for a city that's for more serve there's been a lot of stories in the news about police infiltration of this one fellow and oakland in particular got outed by park watch and then he came out well i'm a ninety nine er but i was looking for trouble makers or a word like that apparently he was on the clock when he was in co neato what what what is the effect of police infiltration having on the movement and and to and to what extent. a lot of these occupy movements are being heavily. loaded shall we
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say with our most people to what extent might it actually be a good idea if you please hang out with them. oh that's a very important and complicated question i think many of the occupiers i have been very welcoming towards the homeless because they often feel that these are the people they're fighting for it is the people they represent so to that extent they they want they want to say that we're doing a better job in fact than the in the cities and taking care of people and on the other hand when you have people with serious mental illness you know that is something that is beyond even i think the most dedicated members of these occupations to to handle and there was this report that just came out it was i was on my way here about the the suicide attempt at occupy burlington so there are you know there are situations that are beyond the scope of good citizens that such as we have at these occupations and i know that in new york in particular there has been a system with which the internal security people at occupy wall street have developed
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or are still developing exact protocols for when you deal with things internally and when you go to law enforcement and there have been a few occasions when they have taken people. and scored them to the edge of the park because the cops are not coming into the park and handed them over to the cops so you know it's a very complicated question and i also think i see your point about police infiltration and that just adds to a general sense of paranoia and the idea that anyone who's being disruptive could be coming from the cops and that's it's quite an effective tactic if you're trying to you sit to so dissent within the movement and so paranoia josh would you. is there more evidence of police infiltration or infiltration in general actually there are probably not probably there are forces other than just the police who want to see this thing go if i want. both on the right and the last is there more evidence of. provocative infiltration or of just intelligence
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gathering information infiltration and and what in your sense of this water what impact is this i mean on the movement itself both politically and kind of ocean. well i certainly have no evidence of police infiltration in terms of trying to provoke conflicts with the police that that's certainly something that it's talked about right a bit around occupy oakland i think the problem with that with that concern with narrative is that you know occupy oakland is struggling to police itself or empty isolate that very small minority of protesters that do you see conflict with the police and i think it provides a handy excuse to say well these are our police probe are productive jurors when in fact it after and it is in fact protesters who need to be held accountable for
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their actions i can say that out on the streets in the evenings that i've seen opened kind of defiled and shipped that a lot of them were a lot of the people who are responsible for that were very very young so that makes me doubt that they're police provocateurs a lot of them looked like they were you know eighteen seventeen eighteen. kind of too young to be police officers and this is problematic. movements tend to go through stages we can look all the way back to the phone in this country and see you know movements going through stages where in your sense is the occupy movement out of. well there are that's a great question i think in new york it's there is a sort of regrouping and organizing stage what's happened in new york is they've moved from holding just general assemblies which are the traditional sort of totally open decision making bodies to having something called the spokes council
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which is an old school and an artist's style this is a decision making where all these different groups elect a spoke that it's like a spoke on a wheel it's rotating and they need together they're meeting together in the basement of a local high school and making logistical decisions so they're getting organized and they're trying to do it in a way that maintains that leaderless nys that horizontal is that commitment to you know having a constantly rotating core of voices speaking so it's never one person dominating and they're starting to plan bigger things you know they're planning in new york they're planning to go out to the different neighborhoods to harlem to the bronx to brooklyn and there's it going to be a huge day of action on november seventeenth which will be i think maybe the next big flashpoint in new york city so they're sort of digging in they're not going anywhere and they're really starting to plan and get things done and get moving it's a very exciting fascinating is a conversation i wish we had a half hour for it's but i were absent sir joshua thank you both so much for your
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contributions. and for the group or you're doing an alderman with all of iowa police action against american patriots who are actually stars in the first amendment rights around the nation sadly thomas jefferson must be rolling in his grave. crazy alert the voters or down for the count in ohio voter is recovering today after a poll worker attacked him on tuesday and nearly bit is nose off after an argument erupted between the unnamed poll worker and forty nine year old greg flanagan over a campaign sign and whether or not it was too close to the polling place things got way. next thing i know. but it's me and he's got his arm around me somehow i don't know how because i couldn't by the time i was in shock and didn't have what it was what my nose. i mean the guy we're going to pull
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the guy off me i'm hoping that i don't lose my nose honestly that what was going through my mind the election after the attack the poll worker immediately jumped in his car and drove home leaving flannigan dizzied bloodied and shocked at what i just happened when he just showed up to vote it's unclear which party the poll worker was siding with but it could be yet another voter suppression tactic by the republican party first make it harder to register to vote then make it impossible to early vote then make it expensive to vote at all by requiring photo i.d.'s and finally if someone finally makes it to the voting station after all of that going off their face. when we come back there have been big shake ups at the top with italy and greece but is this changing of the guard enough to stop the eurozone from t.l. spending to pekin on a disaster. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to didn't break
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