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welcome back to the big picture i'm tom arbonne coming up in this half hour is a change of leadership enough to say the too big to fail european nations and collapsing oh more cuts and more as austerity measures rip apart the eurozone and in this week's a geeky science the t.s.a. says that there are chertoff x. ray toro scanners have less radiation than about anna some top scientists are casting new doubts on that claim personally i'll take my chances with the fruit and if you listen to the g.o.p. there's a very easy fix for all of our economic woes we've got or all start clapping our hands and be on the lookout for peter pan.
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turning to the ongoing financial crisis in europe it looks like they're like here in the u.s. the banks toure's always with four days after prime minister george talk in that area was forced out of office because it called for a national vote of whether or not to accept a bailout from the european central banks toure's the greek government has settled on a new prime minister now taking the reins in greece is lucas papademos the former vice president of the european central bank unlike pop and to re-open a day most pledged to do all he can to make sure his greece stays in the eurozone whether the greek people actually want to or not the fiscal woes of greece have now spilled across the board and italy's the latest nation facing disaster borrowing costs in italy shot up yesterday to above seven percent levels that have led to bailouts being necessary in nations like greece portugal and ireland but italy is not like those other nations italy is an economic powerhouse making a close to one fifth of the entire euro zone. economic output meaning if italy
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fails again over already the crisis has claimed the job of bunga bunga party enthusiasm silvio berlusconi who agreed to resign as prime minister of italy once his government settles on a new budget complete with hard hitting austerity measures yes just like the same austerity measures that pushed millions of greeks into the streets in athens in protest so expect middle class unrest to spread to italy next so one of the countries of europe and their banking institutions doing wrong about this coming financial meltdown or more bailouts and more austerity measures really the answer and one of the consequences if too big to fail european nations start failing joining me now on the phone from italy is antonio for a car coordinator for the italian and geo known as c r b an economic correspondent was covering the recent g twenty summit in cannes antone a welcome thank you very much thank you for joining us italy is on the verge of
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passing an austerity measure just like greece has done for the last year and yet greece is still on the verge of default so why is italy talking about adopted need zach same failed strategy of austerity and why are the e.u. and i.m.f. pushing. well i mean. you. know over. the moment. i think commissioner bank. i think it's a matter of ideology here. we keep. preventing the. country from the second thing is the assumption that in any case. we'll bring
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back. our. national unity government. change and actually. we're really having to work with. governments are able to. do think that berlusconi realizes that italy is headed for social unrest and wants to get out. leaving from. any trying staying power. the question is. whether you can commission and. you really.
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need to do not realize. the structural. and the whole thing started as a banking crisis a lot of discussion of. major. in the way governments have to be partially otherwise. and secondly you. ensure. that the access to. the whole machine will keep going. to be. a turning point. in the minute or so we have left what is the right
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solution look like or is there no consensus whatsoever about what that might. well there are many things can be done both in ensuring term and long term i think ensure turnberry basic ensure that. different public trying to convince the scouts now the. problem not to but having a very. contrary. generation of learning will come on say fine i think we can face reality. there you didn't ship. which are controlled by this country we should be. and should be shipped out. and getting a right of. credit. ration
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eventually should not have just the government paying for the sake of profit. making them. profitable. to poor people who. make. any money. but again we were whole or. action. everything. germany and we. patients antonio thank you so much for sharing sharing your perspective with us.
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thank you the bad news is europe and the rest of the world might be headed for a global crisis and good news i suppose is it might be just the thing to end wall street and the international bankers dangerous reign over the global economy. just. yet that would be the good the bad and the very very are with the row phobic li li the good occupy denver merab denver has been demanding that the occupy patriots in the city choose a leader in spite the fact the ninety nine percent movement is by definition a leaderless movement but on tuesday the occupy denver general assembly finally complied with the mayor's demand and chose a leader shelby a three year old border collie as occupy denver's website says shelby exhibits heart warmth and appreciation for the group of personal ambition shelby is closer
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to a person than any corporation she can bleed she can breed and she can show emotion in the shelby is a person corporations aren't people occupiers and introduce shelby to the mayor this week as well as the governor of colorado and this weekend shelby will be leading a march against corporate personhood that's like a ninety nine percent movement has even the dogs on its side. the bad john mccain the former maverick senator turned shill for corporations is pushing a new bill to let corporations bring back all the money they have stashed in offshore bank accounts to try to dodge paying taxes instead of being taxed at the corporate rate of thirty five percent when they bring him back mccain's bill will tax them out of the easily eight percent effect of the legislation by saying if you brought one point five trillion dollars back to the united states of america it's bound to have some positive effect somewhere i don't see how we're not even if they buy more yachts and corporate jets and all out so first mccain screams about the
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deficit and then mccain decides to let corporations off the hook for bain taxes so the millionaire billionaire c.e.o.'s can buy more yachts and corporate jets because john mccain is working really hard to be the number one the one percent favorite. and the very very ugly brian kilmeade this morning on g.o.p. t.v. fox and friends kilmeade explained what a parent's worst nightmare it is no it's not hearing that your child is in jail or injured instead it's hearing that your child joined occupy wall street. what is the biggest nightmare for a parent we get up at the morning and spotting one of your kids out of one of the occupy movements i thought they were in school what i. write because engaging in our democracy and exercising your first amendment rights. instead parents want their children to sit quietly in their bedrooms playing video games while the country goes down tunes either that or get
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a gig spewing right wing talking points on all news right that's very very. deep. and. it was exactly one year ago next week that the transportation security administration caused a national uproar by rolling out. church off point zero x. ray scanners in airports all across the united states it t.s.a. says the full belt body x. ray scanners are safe and the radiation from a scan is much less than what passengers get from flying or getting an x. ray at the dentist or even eating a banana but some scientists now say the evidence made public to support those claims is unreliable and in a new letter sent to president obama's science adviser john holdren these scientists question why the t.s.a. won't make even one of the scanners available for independent testing by outside
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scientists there are basically two types of body scanners there's the millimeter wave machines which emit a radio frequency similar to cell phones and then there's the back scatter machines that work like a fast moving x. ray they actually use x. rays rays bounce off the skin and create a white image of the passenger's body underneath their clothing because the beam doesn't go through the body most of the radiation is received by the skin the t.s.a. says the back scatter technology has been evaluated by the food and drug administration the national institutes of standards and technology and the john hopkins applied university applied physics laboratory and all of these tests have confirmed that the scanners don't pose significant risk but we've dealt with the scientists who've written the white house pointed out several flaws in these tests for example but john hopkins lab didn't test an actual airport machine instead the tests done at johns hopkins were done on a model built by the manufacturer and set up to resemble
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a system previously tested. and independent studies published in scientific journals in the last few months and also casts doubt on the radiation dose and the machines effectiveness for detecting explosives. peter rev's a physics professor at arizona state university who is one of the cosigners of the letter to the white house has tried to calculate the radiation level by examining the small batch of backscatter images that have been released publicly he concluded that it's highly unlikely the machines could produce such high quality images with a low doses of radiation that the t.s.a. claims professor rez says they have to produce these kind of pictures the radiation must be at least forty five times forty five hundred percent higher and the results measured by the t.s.a. so tense and even greater and very real danger could occur if the machine which quickly swoops a pencil thin x.
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ray beam from head to foot we didn't get driven mechanism were to stop in the middle scan allowing that x. ray being difficult because on one spot for several seconds or t.s.a. says that the scanner of safety systems which is automatic shut off some emergency stop buttons that will kill that beam in the event of a problem if one of those gears fails it could result in abnormal variation with the t.s.a. has not explained how the safety systems work plus the full results of the shutoff tests were redacted blacked out and the test results that were released by the t.s.a. roster so as you gear up for your annual holiday travel there's an occupy movement to avoid don't occupy the chertoff x. ray purnell scanner there's no telling how much radiation will end up occupying you or the time you've made it through security. coming up later and i was merely take by i don't like the figure who seems to be the g.o.p.'s top advisor maybe better suited for a job at disney watching. what drives the world the fear mongering used by
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politicians who makes decisions to break through it's already been made who can you trust no one who is imbue it with a global missionary see where are we heading state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more. the us.
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your take my take is the show when we answer your questions comments criticisms and opinions heard here on the big picture first your comment today is from the viewer rant line up thanks to you tom farley didn't go to the streets yet i convinced my wife my brother ahrendt comes on from the hospital mara. for the day or so to make sure he's ok then i'm on my way to san francisco for a can't wait and again it's all thanks to us through our new couple years ago and he would. back to his far in my belly ache yes trump i truly appreciate the good work here. thank you i believe the caller's talking about joining the ninety nine percent movement in san francisco and if that's the case i have to thank you both for his very kind comments about getting out there. and also for getting out there getting active you know as cliched as it may sound for those of us who work in the media really is often about making this kind of connection with one person when you
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engage in any kind of public discourse whether it's writing an article or an entire book but you have a pod cast hosting four hours a live radio and t.v. every day. sometimes the best you can hope for is the one reader listener viewer out there has one of those aha moments based on something that comes out of the dialogue. it's really nice to get affirmation so i wish this caller the very best and i hope you keep us posted on your experiences out streets our next viewers and i commented on is from the tom hartman facebook page a.j. posted i'm a new listener so it might be common a common saying of time show but what is this or we society it was repeated a few times that well a.j. this concept of the season society vs the we society is one of the fundamental differences between progressive ideology and conservative ideology actually i explained a concept again just last week here on the big picture taken with. the occupy wall
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street movement isn't just about the one percent versus the ninety nine percent it's about what type of society we really want to live in you know if there's a point in michael moore's movie he has this is a movie about health a health care system where he looks at the camera and says words to the effect of at some point we have to decide do we want to live in a we society or a nice society historically humans have chosen to live in a we society whether it's tribal people even back to the bible being matthew twenty five the foundational concepts of christianity of judaism you know it's restated matthew twenty five care for the homeless care for the hungry feed the hungry heal the sick this is fundamental stuff thomas paine laid out in his book agrarian justice he actually proposed a social security system. thomas paine in the seven hundred ninety s. lipper our country was first being found thomas paine proposed social security proposed a minimum wage proposed equivalent of unionization proposed that every person upon
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earth should have some basic fundamental amount of money allocated to them that they could use throughout their lives but there would be a decent retirement and it's really quite extraordinary most of the things that came along with the new deal thomas paine proposed and seventeen the occupy wall street movement for example the ultimate example of a we society free books free health care free food people working together and if you look at the republican budget you find the exact opposite the republican budget is all about a nice society me societies are called feudalism where the very very few own pretty much everything including all the property of the of the of the serfs it's kingdoms it's coke ville as in koch brothers this is the world that the libertarians and the right wingers want to bring us and frankly it's not the world that has historically been america and it's an america that i don't think anybody
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record us you can read more about this concept in several of my books including the newest it's on our barrier that's it for your take my takes and if you like your comments and questions heard on this segment of the big picture listen up we want to know your to send us your comments by visiting the tom hartman facebook page but twitter at underscore what are in the champ room of the message boards through the blog and you can also leave a message on the rant line at two to five three six fifty three zero six agree disagree sound off it's all over the remember that your comments may be used on the year. we might be on the verge of an unprecedented global economic meltdown. but if you watch the republican debate and you're really really gullible you might think there's an easy fix to our troubles and the european debt crisis to the jobs crisis here at home to the health care crisis to the looming energy crisis to the housing
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crisis to the student loan debt crisis you name a crisis so a one size fits all solution to it and all of the republicans on stage last night did not shy away from talking about that solution let the so-called free market work its magic right now feeny they and freddie mac. are demanding more money because we don't allow the market to these termine what these mortgages are earth we're not going to pick winners and losers from washington d.c. we're going to trust the capital markets in the private sector to make the decisions and let the consumers pick winners and losers i'm going to cut all the subsidies out and let the market work as opposed to creating incentives for a different set of seven forms of energy that the government's at the same forks we let the marketplace works you have to have the market interest rates if you want a healthy viable economy you have to let the market work and get people into homes again you'll see home prices come back up if we allow this market to work i would
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find a way to pay them a infrared a mag such that the marketplace can. we need to close the gap on the uninsured without a costly mandate letting the free market work in bringing people together with truly affordable insurance that's the free market numbers fifty three million people uninsured and free market will fix it greece and italy are about to drag the entire global banking system into a depression and free market will fix that to student loan debt topped a trillion bucks for the first time leaving open a free market to fix it republicans have one talking point just one solution all our problems and that's hyping up the power of the so called free market or in herman cain's case hyping up the power of his nine nine nine plan and the free market. but there is but let's think about that for a moment what exactly does it mean what does let the free market work what does that really mean when they say there is a need to remove government and we regulate everything because we already saw how
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that worked repealing dadt a glass steagall repealing reserve requirements repeal into riveted for regulations all leading to the stock market problem and crashing and burning just like what happened in the one nine hundred twenty s. after the free market was deregulated in one thousand twenty one a president harding who slogan was literally this is the actions load less government business more business and government we saw a lack of regulations did in the b.p. oil disaster in the gulf last year we killed eleven men in the massey mine disaster that killed thirty eight people when you get rid of all the rules and the referees and the market will inevitably descend into chaos and sometimes you will die. by generate a boatload of wealth for the one percenters at the top for a little bit but then as has happened every time free marketeers have succeeded in letting the free market work it all comes crashing down. imagine if you want to
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a baseball game and there were no rules there were no empire umpires there were no balls and strikes no limit on how many people were on the field no foul ball lines no specific order to the bases what kind of game would you see played out it'd be chaos complete and utter chaos the republican reply to this but the team with the most money determine the rules of the game they can have five strikes they can move the pitcher's mound closer then you get a home run with just three bases and the team with less money they have to work with a different set of rules worth the umpires catch them breaking even smaller rules their guys are thrown out of the game forever. this is in essence how mitt romney gamed the system for years and bain buying companies changing their rules laying off their people moving their production overseas and taking millions for himself well he he let you and me pay for the unemployment expenses for his former
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employees is the republican way and it has nothing to do with anything it's free it's about markets where the rich and the rich alone rule and set the rules so when the republicans talk about letting the free market work they might as well be same let the free market fairies we their magic ones and everything will be just fine we have a candidate on stage last night was asked how will you solve the problems in the housing market and he or she responded by saying oh i told government regulators to step aside put a team of magic fairies to work fixing everything we do and take that candidate seriously ever again no maybe they would still take herman cain shabaka and seriously but joking aside that's pretty much exactly what every republican candidate on that stage was saying night. but the magic fairy is of the free market so are all our problems right now fannie mae and freddie mac.
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are demanding more money because we don't allow the fairy kiddies termine what these mortgages are earth we're not going to pick winners and losers from washington d.c. we're going to trust the magical fairies in the private sector to mike the decisions and let the consumers pick winners and losers i'm going to cut all the subsidies out and let the berries work as opposed to creating incentives for difference if it's different forms of energy that the government so the supports we let the ferries works you have to have the very common interest rates if you want a healthy economy you have to look the very good work and get people into homes again you'll see home prices come back up if we allow them to work out with find a way to online and i'm a friend a mag such that magical fairies and thank you i think we need to close the gap on the uninsured without a costly mandate letting the fairies work in bringing people together with truly affordable insurance that's. you know is that because of the
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b.s. and stop accepting this so-called free market fairy stuff as a magical wizard or problems. and by the way credit to paul krugman for coming up with a phrase for america for his because all it is in reality is a poll tested phrase free market just like job creators or just a phrase to get average low information voters to nod their heads and blindly follow the lead of the millionaires and billionaires who are perfectly happy in a perpetual boom bust cycles of a free market economy where bankers get a boom and we all get stuck with the bust there is no magical free market there are no fairies and secret green elves no unicorns no walk ness monster and more than likely no abominable snowman but there are real solutions solutions that have been tried in the past and it worked really well solutions like raising taxes on the rich putting regulations on the banks toure's setting trade tariffs weaving
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a strong social safety net and protecting the rights of workers to unionize and organize into labor unions basically none of the stuff you heard in the republican debate those are the real solutions we need and not the nonsense you hear spew from republicans about a daily basis. that's the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we covered visit our web sites at tom hartman dot com free speech dot org and archie dot com also check out our two you tube channels there are links of colorado dark star shows also available for free video podcast on i tunes and we have a free trial marvin i phone and i pad app at the app store you can send us feedback on twitter it's all members who are on facebook at all of this crowd and our blogs message boards telephone comment line at taco bell. and don't forget democracy begins when you participate when you show up when we all participate show so get
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