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welcome to the lower show where we get the real headlines with none of the mercy i can live in washington d.c. now tonight we're going to take a look back at last night's presidential debate now the focus here was the economy but once again seems like a cat it's got away without having to offer any real solutions then yesterday protesters at u.c. berkeley clashed with police that attacked with their batons sort of get more details from somebody who was there and asked why the media was so much more interested and rowdy students at penn state that is our military and the cia increase their use of drone strikes the secrecy with which they kill becomes more and more problematic so to speak to philip alstott former u.n. special special rapporteur on extrajudicial so mary and arbitrary execution talk about what needs to be done by the government by the media and by the people to
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demand more transparency or have all that and more few tonight put in a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look what the mainstream media has decided to miss. all right so last night c n b c hosted a republican presidential debate the focus there was on the economy but just like any other debate there are of course some bad jokes that fell on deaf ears some boos from the crowd when herman cain scandal was brought up and some gaffes one really bad gaffe by rick perry in fact by now it's probably been played hundreds if not thousands of times on every single cable network. rick perry's campaign trying to limit the fallout from what some are calling a brain for is in major damage control mode today doing the morning talk shows it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone commerce education and the what's the third one there was. the texas governor was trying to do rail but he
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forgot the name of one of the agencies but he would shut down the elected president during what was an excruciating fifty three seconds really a presidential train wreck he could only remember two of those departments the texas governor rick perry saying he's not quitting despite what some are calling some a big gaffe yes there was a very awkward moment forty five seconds of stammering texas governor rick perry despite the really disastrous showing presidential candidate rick perry this morning says he's not quitting. all right now let's get a few things straight here was that a pretty bad message by rick perry most definitely for starters if you're going to start slashing away government agencies right left you better damn well know which ones you want to get rid of and why we don't have government agencies just because they're fun to create they actually serve a purpose is there waste than mismanagement at a lot of these agencies most definitely but that does not mean that you just wipe them off the map altogether anyway the other thing about this is it's not like it's
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the first time that perry's ever messed up so he's even more deserving of critique because he does this every single debate which would probably make voters think twice about electing another guy that's going to make us all look like idiots on the world stage but at the end of the day last night's debate was about the biggest issue facing this country right now and that is the economy so while those fifty three seconds of perry forgetting his words was rather excruciating it didn't compare to the fact of the entire two hours it was excruciating because these candidates don't answer any doubt questions about the most pertinent at immediate crises that are facing us take for example italy the entire eurozone sovereign debt crisis yesterday markets were imploding the world was panicking the i.m.f. chief was warning of a global downward economic spiral and yet when c. and b. c. which rightfully asked about the issue at the very start of the debate when they asked the candidates just completely ignored it. focus on the domestic economy we will see so yes focus on the domestic economy first there's not
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a lot that the united states can directly do but it is the right now well europe is able to take care of their own problems. contribute to the international monetary fund and the i.m.f. has given one hundred fifty billion dollars to the eurozone are you saying the u.s. should stop contributing to the i.m.f. . happy to continue to participate in world efforts like the world bank at the i.m.f. . so just focus on the domestic economy let europe take care of itself hello people we can't just sit here and act like we live in a bubble if italy goes down the european banking sector goes down our banking system is drug it will be a worldwide domino effect and yet all these candidates can say is focus on what's going on at home or we will bail them out you know mitt romney must have also forgotten that the fed gave trillions to foreign banks at the time of the crash in two thousand and eight anyway so scary issue number one the face of the world absolutely no answers for it so then see and be seen as moderators went to mastic they asked about the housing crisis the fact that millions of americans homes are
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underwater and if you that it isn't going to magically disappear because the health of our economy is tied to it and yet here's what the candidates that. you have to let the market work and get people into homes again and the best way for that to happen is to is to allow this economy to reboot would find the way to the wind band and maybe infrared america such that the market place. is the republican house next week would repeal dodd frank and allow us to put pressure on the senate to repeal dodd frank you'd see the housing market start to improve overnight dodd frank kills small banks it kills small business the federal regulators are anti housing loan and it has maximized the pain level. they're really that simple you guys if you just allow the economy to reboot the mass work closures will go away or according to you gingrich if you just repeal dodd frank the housing crisis will easily be fixed i mean these are the most childish ridiculous answers that i've ever heard
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and these are candidates that want to be the president of the united states so that's the excruciating part of last night's fiasco is that none of them offer any concrete solutions they just peel off more prepared talking points i had if you were watching the mainstream media's coverage of the debate today you forget all about that who want to get into those details or playing fifty three seconds of awkwardness is just so much more fun because rick perry making himself look like an idiot totally races the fact that this entire country is in trouble if any of the people on that stage win and that's what the mainstream media chooses to miss. all right so let's continue looking at last night's republican debate once again the economy was fatally the theme once again we had to hear a lot of nine nine nine descriptions of other tax plans that would get the economy growing again but in all cases the candidates did agree on one thing more government more problems but isn't it time to step away from the theoretical start
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talking straight about what needs to happen right now the government or perhaps better said congress has for the most part been doing nothing about the jobs crisis or about the housing crisis they have been raising taxes and they actually have been cutting everything at these candidates want on a micro level and yet that isn't getting the country back on track so let's try to bring last night's posturing back into the real world her disgust with me as derek thompson senior editor at the atlantic terry thanks so much for being here tonight good to be here let's quickly go back a step to what i was just saying with these cliffs in terms of talking about europe in terms of talking about housing i think rightfully so europe was the first question that the moderators asked last night and i don't even think herman cain said the word italy or said europe all they want to. says' focus on what's going on at home is it because they are oblivious to what's going on do they not want to have to say that yes maybe we will go with another bailout when it comes to a global level what he thinks going on the one hand the republicans didn't say anything of use when it came to the european debt crisis on the other hand that
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puts them in pretty good company you have the e.c.b. the european central bank which has no idea basically how to bail out italy the third largest economy in europe and u.s. policymakers are having the same problem you know i talk to the treasury department and you say you know what can america do to help europe out and you can you can encourage companies to get countries to come together and say all right let's put up enough money that we can back the losses back the bad debt that exists right now in greece and italy and other per for economies in order to make the market believe that they'll pay back their debt is just really really difficult right now because we've crossed the rubicon of sorts when it comes to italy's debt and greece's debt it's very difficult to get investors confident that you can see at least when you say it it sounds eloquent and you understand that there are problems involved here and you understand that nobody in the world right now like you said including the e.c.b. really has a solution to this and so at some point you have to start thinking about what might happen if you have to have a plan b.
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but i just feel like these guys they just completely ignore it we can just live in our bubble all fix on our work on fixing our economy here at home and pretend like it doesn't exist let's move on to housing as well you know gingrich thinks that they're appealing dodd frank is going to fix housing isn't that easy you know of course. has nothing to do with putting money in people's pockets and helping them pay back their mortgages and it has nothing to do with principal write downs or reducing the interest on mortgages which is the only way that you could possibly get people to pay back all of the loans they that they can afford in their homes and get people to buy new homes because they have enough money that they think they can make another enormous investment in something as large as a house so different buddhism doesn't have anything to do with that all the dodd frank is trying to do is find better ways to. courage our banks to be more responsible and then encourage government to have a better pathway to bailing them out or not bailing them out winding them down when they become so large and unwieldy that we realize we have to split up the assets unfortunately somehow you no longer really hear obama care being used as much of
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course it comes up during the republican debates it's no longer the bad word last night it seems like dodd frank became the bad words that show a clip to the audience for a quick. the biggest regulatory problem we have is obamacare and dodd frank i will repeal those bills because the republican house next week would repeal dawud frank and allow us to put pressure on the senate to repeal blood from the housing market start to improve overnight dodd frank kill small but it kills small business the federal regulators are anti housing loan and it has maximized the pain level that dog for obama care that's what's killing america that's three big things wrong with dogs which is why it needs to be a top priority to repeal the two of the biggest problems with god for a dog and for i. harm or that herman cain but i mean seriously died and frank dodd frank the bill it's like the worst thing that's ever happened to america and it's really interesting you know you pull back the lens and you
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think what just happened three years ago the economist fell off a cliff the global economy almost fell off a cliff because banks were reckless and we had no idea what to do with the trillions of dollars of assets that were going that dodd frank is at least a step towards us reclaiming the kind of regulations that we had before they were unwound the one nine hundred ninety s. into thousands it's amazing to me that you have the me a major party in this country one of two major parties in this country and all they can talk about is getting back banking conditions to where they were in two thousand and five two thousand and six and two thousand and seven when we know they didn't work it's possible that dodd frank is not the ideal bank regulation it is at least a step towards a better banking regulation rule and law that will have the effect of not having two thousand seven happen all over again one of the things that we heard a lot last night too is that institutions banks cannot be too big to fail and that's one of the things the dot frank as an entirely do unfortunately when it comes to reform is you know making breaking up the banks are you know making it so
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that they can no longer be too big to fail but they hate dodd frank but they don't want anything to be too big to fail you more that there's a lot of hypocrisy going around and same way. when it came to mentioning fannie and freddie last night i want to show you a clip of something that michele bachmann had to say. they just gave bonuses of almost thirteen million dollars to ten top executives this is the epicenter of capital cronyism crony capitalism that's what's wrong with washington d.c. . ok so a i agree i don't think that millions of dollars in bonuses at fannie and freddie are warranted at this point but it boggles my mind that they can critique that in freddie and the bonuses that we given out but then not care at all about the fact that bankers on wall street who are also beat out by bailed out by american taxpayers have have much much much larger bonuses right and it looks like they're looking at this extremely complicated byzantine issue and focusing only on the parts of it that have to do with government criticizing criticizing them saying
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that we should take the strip away the regulations that have been in place it's you know it's the same playbook that they're using with financial regulation in general frank you know it's disappointing to me that i think republicans have a point that the government's involvement in housing was a factor in the bad loans and the stupid mortgage backed securities. that we saw in the in the decade leading up to the big crash but like you said their prescriptions for fixing the crisis are boilerplate but do you think that's going to work with you know when it comes to voters who think that they're actually going to buy it because as i was saying before i feel like everything is so simple they clearly have these talking points right absolutely no more taxes no increases in taxes less government fewer agencies but then there's no really concrete plans i feel like in terms of getting people back to work everything is just the economy fix itself let it grow right i mean you can focus on the nitty gritty but i think at the end of the day what voters are looking for is an echo of their own ideology i think people
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have a general sense about whether or not government can work or not work and their party is now a party that is saying over and over again in different ways government is not working it doesn't work obama is not working this is mitt romney i want control of the governor and we know we're going to fix it and it's a little bit weird i think but i mean but that is the argument and it is at least a very consistent argument and it's one that's easy to grab hold of so you see a lot of variations on that theme democrats actually in this case you know to veer into a little bit of political messaging now have to have a much harder case to make their case as the government has. worked well enough but we can make it work better it's a little bit more nuance and that's often why republicans win these elections. you know i feel like if you look at the occupy wall street movement right now tell me which you can say is more left wing the whole feeling is that government is no longer working for anybody for right or left now i'm going to one of the other clips that i had michele bachmann and i want to go over to our last line where finally the candidates were forced to address the issue of student loan debt because student loan debt has surpassed a trillion dollars in this country and it's
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a huge problem and yet again not exactly satisfied with the answers take a listen. but i think you proved that the policy of student loans is a total failure i mean a trillion dollars a day. the college of the ozarks is a work study in college you cannot apply to it unless you need student aid and they have no student you have to work twenty hours a week during the year to pay tuition and books you work forty hours a week during the summer to pay for room and board ninety two percent of the students graduate owing no debt for i don't think the federal government should be in the business of paying for programs and building up huge debt out there i think we need to look at how do you get rid of this universe. for starters what is this you topi an education system that the new gingrich talks about where you just work forty hours a week during the summer i mean this is some school in the ozarks where they're like a couple hundred people and i love that he's trying to discredit the fact that unfortunately
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you're told as a young adult in this country that you have to go to a good university unfortunately some universities manage to charge you have to fifty thousand dollars a year but if you have that specific degree then you're told that you have that more of a chance of getting a good job what to expect let's let's be honest here if it's no student who takes on debt could go to college most students currently in college be forced to leave college and that would be a horrible idea we don't know absolutely that every single person in college is going to benefit from his or her college experience but we do know though is that the group of people who have gone to college earn more and have a lower unemployment rate than people who don't go to college college. in the aggregate works and we should try to get as many people to go to college as possible now in order for them i agree i agree with republicans and democrats to say the same thing there's just too much to do in student debt out there and it's a problem because you've seen kids take on all this debt believing that the economy would give them a job to pay it back and they happen to graduate into the worst economy in eighty years but that's not colleges problem what we need to do is find better ways to
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create affordable community colleges and frankly you know online colleges as well that don't rip students or students off that are efficient you actually seen how those for profit colleges are doing and that's exactly what they do is they rip students off and fortunately they're going to thank you so much for joining us tonight and no mention of defense cuts yesterday either another thing i'm very upset about when it comes to talking about the economy and what we're going to do with it thanks so much for being here here and. i there is still much more to come tonight for you to bring all the latest on the occupy movement the demonstrators are getting creative about preparations for the winter months at u.c. berkeley occupy protests got violent yesterday when police tried to boot people from sproul plaza to bring you all the details about what went down as those were trapped. sure is that so much. i can give it really. is china and that is the world under this massive economic
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geopolitical shift as we change the china take on the greater. the explosions were troubling.
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yesterday students professors other supporters of the occupy movement all gathered at u.c. berkeley's sprout plaza to join an occupy cow now the university told protesters that they could stay around the clock for a week but only if they didn't use tents and a stove or any other items that might suggest to people that they would be sleeping there. voted not to comply with the demands i continued to peacefully set up a tent site but then police used force to get them to go. thank you ok thank. you thank you thank god thank god thank you thank you thank you thank now at the end of the day more than thirty people were arrested but the pride and see that on the news to the mainstream media was more concerned with another student protest or riot whatever you want to call it that was going on at penn state thank you god
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thank god thank you. i saw let's find out more about what happened on the ground at khao and see why police violence on campus didn't make the t.v. cut join me to discuss this is cali made off ph d. student at u.c. berkeley and occupy cow protest here thanks so much for joining us tonight if you can just start by telling us what happened yesterday what you saw and how close you were to the police that really started using violence against some of these people you know it was a really great day long action there were lots of people involved and it was just it was a mass mobilization of the whole campus that was really wonderful and successful and marred by these pretty extreme instances of police silence another necessary arrests now would you say that the police were excessive in their force from what i
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know it was the campus police as well as the alameda county sheriff's. absolutely absolutely i mean there were people in the hospital of my glasses were and they were too excited they were excessive excessive is not the same. well i mean watching that video right there is definitely something that's visually disturbing but like i just mentioned you know last night everybody was focused on the job turned out scandal what was going on at penn state where students came out and started knocking down a local t.v. truck when they heard that he was going to be fired why do you think though that the media was so focused on that story and yet when you saw police being physically violent abusing students here berkeley it didn't make the cut you know i mean it's crazy i'm not sure what what they're thinking except you know we need didn't overturn t.v. trucks we didn't even have graffiti or through bottles or anything and yet there
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were thirty nine arrests including one this morning. as opposed to just two but do you feel like that means the media still isn't paying enough attention to the occupy wall street movement to you know to what this is all about if they're looking at something that clearly you know there's a big scandal going on over at penn state but this is something that i feel like people express a lot of disgust towards that students who are out you know showing their support for this coach how do you feel that that compares to the social inequality the occupy wall street is protesting against. oh absolutely i mean i think that it really does show that the media is focusing on the wrong things also you know the nature of this kind of struggle it's it's not just a one off thing this is not something that's going to affect change overnight but it's a long struggle and you know the mainstream media often isn't good at covering things that last for weeks or months they like those big spectacular one time stories
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well it's definitely true that this is now starting to last weeks and months and i'm curious if you can explain to me too i know that members of occupy oakland came down yesterday to the berkeley campus but at berkeley specifically a lot of anger has to deal with the u.c. regents with a lot of the cuts that we've seen to education in california as a state's to do feel like it's more of a localized protest than what the occupy movement is protesting nationally i think one of the really spectacular things that's happened with the occupy movement across the united states is that it is together these national issues with local struggles so on use at u.c. berkeley we have really been talking about these fee hikes the privatization of education specifically and occupy oakland it's also been about pretty brutality that's been going on for years and you know the kind of race struggles that are really important at that site so i think that what was bringing them all together
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are these economic issues and it's been exciting to see how they're differently or to get laid it in different states across the united states now i want to show you a clip really quick last night there was another g.o.p. debate and they actually brought up occupy wall street so let's take a look what they said about it. i would just say that i want to be the president of the ninety nine percent i also want to be the president of the one percent and i have yet to hear a single reporter ask a single occupy wall street first in a single rational question about the economy that would lead them to say for example who's going to pay for the park you're occupying if there are no businesses making a profit. all right i'm curious what you think of the answers in the candidates there i mean i think the big hulu really don't know how to address what's going on. the sort of rhetoric that's being used about the ninety nine percent is trying to link people together in
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a way it. really does not make sense in republican terms but at least they were forced to talk about it and i think about means. is doing something you know and getting some kind of proper attention here thanks so much for joining us tonight thanks for having me. well now that we're into the first ten days of november it's clear that winter is coming so for those that are taking part in the occupy movement the lowering temperatures and longer nights are a sure sign of the things to come they're fighting to chill and vow to continue forward and in fact they vow to continue protesting and marching protesters have just begun occupy the highway well their march two hundred miles to washington d.c. . now the changing season means that adjustments will have to be made to the occupiers strategy and as of now the occupy movement has been setting up camp an
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outdoor parks across the country but as winter approaches those that are protesting are anxiously awaiting the cold temperatures so while poets of the movement are hoping that the frigid temperatures are going to discourage the protesters force them to pack up and head home some people like the new yorkers hendrik hertzberg feared that the cold would pare the numbers in the camps leaving only radical support which could change the message of the occupy wall street movement now those camping it showed their allegiance just spite the bitter chill for example new york demonstrators stuck it out through the first round of blistering cold weather at the end of october despite the fact the police took away heat generators in security park the night before but they don't nations in a program called occupy supply forty two thousand dollars have already been spent on cold weather supplies and even military grade tents designed to keep protesters warm but the ranks of those pitching in to help the protesters to beat the chill are growing for example in boston mit students are now coming up with their own ways of keeping warm as part of the winterization working group occupy boston you
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might come across a coffin shaved box on wheels and these tiny tiny house is actually a good way to stay warm designer sage radicality created this whole out of a spare kitchen cabinet with several layers of styrofoam plywood polyethylene sheets of the designer says the tiny home is. very well insulated keeping him more at night and a structure on wheels keeps his body away from the ground and also complies with the city ordinance now the best part is the temporary home cost a mere hundred dollars to build making it a fusible option to recreate for more occupiers radicality isn't the only one who's working to keep the occupier soldiers warm mit professor jam wampler is calling on students to come up with strategies and designs to help the protesters beat the free one of the models they're working on now is a tepee it would be ideal for daily general assembly meetings but the winterization group hopes to have many more designs in the near future with some of the best and brightest minds in the company testified in the cold so what's the prognosis for the occupiers will this be their valley forge or their epic encounter to the likes
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of the starks in the lancers i hope they get devise a plan soon because the weather is changing no matter what and nobody wants to be caught off guard when the long cold winter arrives. studded concert night we have our show and tell segment and then it will be u.s. drone policy one back one day come back to bite us on the issue of the drone program and white feet kristie it's problematic. wealthy british style sun it's time. for the. markets. campbell find out what's really happening to the global economy for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into gaza reports on
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our. seven thirty am in moscow these are your r.t. headlines mission accomplished russia's finally overcome the last major obstacle all the way to the world trade organization the accession was approved after nearly two decades of talks and will officially begin after the w t o members of both in december. greece's economic stalemate now in the hands of a technocrat athens names former banker and european central bank vice president lucas papademos as the country's interim prime minister will be tasked with guiding the country through its debt crisis until elections happen in february. israel could attack iran as soon as christmas according to british intelligence news follows latest u.n. report that claims to iran is building atomic weapons but the u.s. defense secretary says a military.

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