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the campaign would not prevent a nuclear crisis only escalate on. time to go back to washington for part two of the alona show stay with us. i have time for show and last night's program last time we discussed the growing wealth gap between the younger and older generations in this country however some might claim it the most recent numbers are misleading and you'll inter-generational warfare that of reminding everyone that they are the ninety nine percent so is this growing gap something worth being concerned about going to produce or for treason to send to you to find out what you have to say. young people enjoy having money and a good job just as much as the next person compared to an older american they have a lot less of both the good jobs and the good money now after all the older generation grew up in time the pensions and enjoying booming economic cycles but most of all they have jobs now those older than sixty five now have forty seven
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times as much net worth as a double household headed by someone under thirty five years old so while the wealth gap is undeniable is the divide between generations to be concerned about or something trying to create intergenerational warfare well steve said the numbers that show older people way ahead financially may be skewed by the fact that the richest one percent are just older which lends the data to favor older generations laurie told those young people had trouble getting their foot on the ladder but the elderly struggle to get a meager pension she said i don't think there is an age divide so brother would said the baby boomers aren't about to relinquish their demographic advantage their generation has always taken care of itself and always will now judging from your comments the majority seem to understand that economic hardship is not limited by age well many blame that one percent no one really believes it's time to break out those signs and protest in front of grandma's house. now is always think if your
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response is and here's our next question for you are going to show we spoke with thompson about the republican candidates for president slabs or lack. take on the economy so let us know what you think what questions would you like to see answered on the economy by these candidates you can respond to us on facebook twitter and here too and you know your response just like me. now a rare turn of events if you mainstream media outlets of actually decided to turn their attention to guantanamo bay this week sick use prisoner on the sherry finally faces a military tribunal and a series accused of being the mastermind of the two thousand bombing of the u.s.s. cole in yemen which killed seventeen sailors and the obama administration has stated that it's working to make machineries trial more transparent than past get mobility commissions but as of right now party tell president obama has made any real efforts to change much of anything but the tensions that are tender in cuba he certainly hasn't taken any real steps to close the facility so let's take a look at get moe from
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a financial perspective after all it is the single most expensive prison on the planet and an air of tightening budgets you think our government would be asking if it's financially beneficial to keep these detainees abroad or the u.s. recent article by karen rosenberg of the miami herald explains why this prison puts any detention center here in the states absolutely to shame when it comes to cost so exactly what makes good most the most expensive prison on the planet but to start everything i mean everything that is provided to the base is imported via barger aircraft the obama administration revealed over the summer at the d.o.d. drives about one hundred and fifty million dollars a year on get and eight hundred thousand dollars per detainee each year now keep in mind u.s. federal prisons spend about twenty five thousand dollars per prisoner per year so yeah that's a pretty huge difference in spending our prisoners are also have their own kitchen health services but money is also spent on the captives cellblocks those prisoners who show good behavior and are cooperate if have access to satellite t.v.
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with news and religious programming they also have an extensive book and video library and a detainee is offered up to forty five hundred calories a day in food some of which is. all over a good portion of annual budget goes towards the military and general staff of c. for them the cuba detention center is run like a base where officers can bring their families live on site and still get paid the hostile fire and imminent threat rates of their fellow soldiers receive in war zones like afghanistan and all the pay very thin soldier rosenberg reports that a petty officer third class with the navy gets about two thousand nine hundred eighty five dollars a month meanwhile a navy commander with fifteen years experience earns about seven thousand eight hundred forty dollars a month but the pay isn't the only park staffing guards have their own gym dining rooms and a movie theater and what's called camp america now what about the facility itself it was first deemed a temporary site when it opened back in january two thousand and two but they're getting a lot of expensive a great very expensive upgrades for starters they're going to drop two million
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dollars on new computer equipment it was also getting a new guard corps headquarters and a new infirmary have to replace their aging prison hospital now each of those projects cost seven hundred fifty thousand dollars so now they have a gist of where some of that taxpayer money is going i'm going to repeat something that i brought up several times before why is guantanamo bay still open president obama originally ordered the base be shut down almost two years ago and based on the amount of fresh construction plan doesn't really sound like it most shutting down any time soon so perhaps seeing some of these six seven eight digit expensive courts might encourage some of us to take some sort of some sort of action sooner rather than later. now on the show we constantly talk about the shadow wars that the country is fighting abroad the use of special ops teams and drones in yemen somalia and most frequently pakistan the inconsistency of reports between the cia and human rights organizations when it comes to civilian casualties and of course
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the legal questions that about when our new report philip alston pinpoints the legal uncertainty the results from the incredible secrecy of america's targeted killing program including a lot. congressional oversight and judicial review and media coverage that's dependent on the cia for those leaks now this according to alston means that there is no meaningful domestic accountability for a burgeoning program of international killing as a result he concludes that this undermining of international law and the setting of legal precedents will inevitably come back to haunt us so joining me from the studio in new york is philip alston former un special rapporteur on extrajudicial some marry and arbitrary executions he's also professor of law at new york university and co-chair of the law school's center for human rights and global justice philip i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight and i just want to get some start with the basics overall when it comes to sending in special ops teams for a raid where it's targeted killing or sending out a drone to strike and have a targeted killing planned do you think about something that is legal.
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well in principle it certainly can be nothing to nothing to stop the united states from having special operations teams nothing to stop them from using drones nothing to stop them from. doing the sort of night raids they do a lot of in afghanistan. they're still pretty detailed rules that apply a shoemaking that are doing this in the context of an armed conflict of war and the question is whether the. abide by those rules or whether we knows so little about what they're doing but we're not overall to conclude that they do respect the rules well so you know one of the problems of course with the cia now taking the lead in regards to the drone program is that the cia doesn't have to report on its drone program they it's secret and so we only get little tidbits here and there and you think about it's a really
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a dangerous step that's being taken that the cia has more control than the military is it worse when the cia does it i guess you could say. well the frightening thing about the cia which runs basically all of the drone program and carries out all of the killings that take place in pakistan is that they quote neither confirm nor deny that there is any such program so if you want to know anything about it there for more responses about what we don't know about this. the question then is what does the public know about it the public knows what's been leaked by the cia so you've got leon panetta saying yeah we killed bin laden yea we've killed number three we've killed number x. . and a few details like that combined with assurances that the program is highly effective but if we go any further and say so tell us how you run the program do you actually do the same sort of targeting as the military does do you follow the same rules do
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you abide by the law of armed conflict they say it's all secret we can't tell you anything about it nothing at all do you follow up do you know if you've killed anybody or first of all we can't tell you but we can assure you we haven't ever killed anyone well ask any military expert and that's ridiculous these sort of operations are messy they're complicated inevitably civilians are killed but we can't investigate that if we have no information at all so my argument would be that the cia by carrying out this large scale program of killing hundreds of people totally on the basis of secrecy is violating the international law that requires a degree of accountability explaining what's being done and showing that the rules are being followed and it's clearly not satisfying any form of domestic accountability. well you know what do you think has to be more vigilant i guess you
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could say that is probably everybody the press needs to be more vigilant but you also bring up the fact that there is a complete free pass coming from congress here same thing when it comes to the courts and why is it that way is it too is it too easy to ignore it you complicated to try to get into discussing the legal gray area is somebody too scared to try to stop the program. i think it's too complicated first of all that's being sold to on the basis that this is really essential to the fight against terrorism no one's against the fight against terrorism everyone wants it to be effective to put an end to terror activity. the question is whether in order to fight terrorism effectively it really is essential to carry out all of these targeted killings in complete secrecy now the public finds it very difficult to distinguish we go back to the killing of bin laden the big question is who carried it out we hold up the seals and the j.
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stock as it's called special operations of the army and say they did a superb job but of course technically it wasn't them technically it was a cia operation which is why leon panetta was briefing us all about what was happening the military didn't have the right to go into afghanistan under u.s. law so what do we do we simply put the military on the cia control and send them all in but the problem is that the cia remains as it was always set up as an intelligence agency to be gathering information to be spying on people to be undertaking covert activities around the world but it wasn't set up as a killing machine it wasn't set up to be identifying targets then working out how they would be taken out as it were either by drones or through other assassination work and so they also wanted to set up to provide any form of a. ability for those sort of actions the congress applies no
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serious scrutiny there isn't a single informed observer who thinks that congressional oversight of the cia particularly in relation to these sort of issues is even vaguely effective the executives' there is none of this after just one second here i'm sorry but we have our only a couple seconds left there and you conclude basically that at some point the u.s. is that this is going to come back to haunt us can you elaborate on that sure there are some fifty countries now that have drone capacity the third biggest manufacturer is china so china is selling but also developing its own drone force clearly this is going to be the question is what rules do we want to enforce against china if we're going into pakistan to yemen and other countries and saying look we can shoot these drones regardless of international law what is there to stop china or iran various other countries whose track records were not
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particularly happy with from saying we're going to play by u.s. rules in other words we do what we want to just like you guys did there won't be any accountability no transparency we don't want that now's the time to set up rules now's the time to say the u.s. will play by international law and we will demonstrate that either by compelling the cia to act in accordance with international law or moving the whole program over to the partner of defense which does basically respect international law but definitely a very important point to make because you're right it's not going to be just us are using us drone technology around the world for a long field thank you so much for joining us tonight. our pleasure. now coming up one republican senator is so opposed to gay marriage they actually try to claim that the u.s. is too broke to support the benefits we're going to tell you made that claim it might still time segment and on tap for happy hour wal-mart wants to start black friday shopping even earlier this year and should the big banks get warded time
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hi guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight goes to texas senator john cornyn now on capitol hill today a senate committee held a hearing on appealing the defense of marriage act doma as it's called it's a federal law that has a recognize gay marriage from the states and bans gay married couples from federal benefits so clearly a lot of conservatives support it because of their values but just look at what the republican senator from texas used today as
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a reason to legally discriminate against gay very couples the second reason i support doma is that repealing the defense of marriage act would actually result in an expansion of federal benefits and spending at a time when we know there are several spending is way out of control and our entitlement programs are unsustainable. so gay married couples shouldn't be entitled to benefits because the us is broke it's too expensive so the record of us has a big balls to actually use that excuse now for those of you that are unaware here in the us if your spouse dies you can dry some of that you can draw some of the dead spouses social security benefits children on the end of the age of eighteen can also draw benefits the person passes away it's one of the social safety nets that help protect families when a loved one died but according to senator courted if you're gay spouse dies then screw you the us is broke sorry social security has no money you're on your own
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gave people never mind the fact that social security is not broke but if you for years of congress doesn't operating all the funds paid into social security it just like a broke that's another story for another day now back to some of the corn and he also used this excuse no one no one has paid into the social security system expecting then if it's to be paid to same sex partners and it would be unfair for state laws to determine the eligibility for social security survivor benefits which are a federal benefit not a state benefit. so no one paid into social security think of the gay people might get benefits now that gay people they work and pay their taxes should they be entitled to the same benefits now after as little traits tirade senator john cornyn was still not done that marriage equality but i think the reversal we're seeing on the defense of marriage act a federal law not a state law is just another sign of how out of touch that some of our friends
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across the aisle have come. have been with the american people on this issue and i think unfortunately and it saddens me to say this this knowing that this bill will never become law in this congress i think it's a transparent appeal to a special interest group that our democratic friends believe is a key to their electoral victory in two thousand and twelve. so he thinks the democrats are out of touch on this issue has john been living in a cave an a.b.c. news poll released over the summer showed that fifty three percent of americans now support same sex marriage and the trend line on every poll in recent years shows that more and more people support the issue so said their corn and it's you and the republican party that are out of touch period and that's why texas sen john cornyn is tonight's tool time winner.
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sorry guys time for happy hour and joining me this evening as are two producer jenny churchill and lauren lyster host of capital account on r.t.e. hello ladies thanks for joining me thank you ok so you know we've been having to talk about last night's republican debate again the other debate where i want to shoot myself in the head because it's a boring but you know there was ok i also don't like to obsess over the herman cain saga but this answer that he gave are just too good to not for a minute so it's take a look. my characters and my children see more than anything else and for every one person that comes forward with a false accusation there are probably thousands who would say none of this sort of activity came from herman cain. they're just too good if you're trying to convince the world that you are guilty of sexual harassment actually saw in the past will be like but there are thousands of people i didn't do it to. and i love
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only with there are probably oh no god i don't want to leave but. i think someone in this morning brought up the amazing point that a serial killer could say the same thing you know i may have killed forty people but there are like a thousand that i didn't get around to every there's like a couple billion more on the planet are doing just fine so don't worry about me and considering that you probably should have said that you know there are seven billion people on this planet and what's one more although he also referred to himself in the third person which seems to be his new thing which i have to say is almost as annoying as the stupidity part of that comment not really in the third person references that i get into that. you really want president is running around all right. ok let's move on to the next. i don't i've never actually done the black friday thing i don't know if you guys have or you get i have like four o'clock in the morning and you stampede well ok let's show
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people what the stampede usually looks like at wal-mart that has been gathered before take a look. at what happened here this morning was ordered speak arabic stampede about two thousand people lining up outside the store just before trout o'clock this morning when the store was closed for the facts were chanting. the crowd surged in the order and literally pushed huge glass aluminum through are. not ready for you. and where he lay on the ground as you said hundreds of people trampled over him. it's horrible like the horror of just being trampled to death but so this is what christmas shopping unfortunately results in in america and so that. mission not being a full death and we didn't learn just what you do how do you. know let's just cut
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it down it's easier to just like a glenn beck or logic goals equivalent you just sit there let's just show you. how crazy they're getting so now best buy and target of decided that they're going to have people in at midnight on thanksgiving night now wal-mart is saying that they're actually going to start doing it at ten pm and i actually got a living social email telling me about a deal at a hotel so i could stay right next to the hotel right next to the wall in the hotel for black friday so i could be the first shopper there it's. too much i've actually had the unfortunate. experience of working a black friday at a best buy and it was literally the craziest thing i've ever seen in my whole life i showed up at three for work and there are people literally camped out and then everyone was just in the worst mood and screaming and fighting over like twenty dollars deals you're getting twenty dollars off a television well but here's how this i was for the world if you're. going to do you know where they have good deals i feel bad for the people who still think it's a normal black friday and they show up at three in the morning thinking that they're lining up for the store to open and little do they know that all the good
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stuff with god and they could've gone at ten pm when it really opened that all the really. advertising all that much but i'm sure it's coming soon let's quickly move on to our next one mario batali famous chef has a lot of famous restaurant sure as well so he got in trouble because he basically said when speaking at an evasive the way the bankers have toppled the way that money is distributed and taken most of it into their own hands is as good as stalin or hitler the evil guys that time is featured as person of the year and so now there's all this backlash and basically gloss. people are saying fine we won't eat at your restaurants and one tweeter actually had a really good point to mario batali said good luck getting the people of the park to pay eight hundred dollars for a plate of pasta yeah well they got their way because he came out and apologized obviously in the bottom line is more important than his criticism of bankers because he backtracked he made a funny and very i didn't really mean it no i think he did mean it and then he
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realized that he was biting the hand that feeds him but i mean i have to say i think that it's fascinating that he said in the first place why i mean i just for him to not realize or to not understand that those. who else is going to that restaurant get to a story just i'm going to tell you right here on a banker they're all in all the one percent. that are. journalist everywhere. that are ok this is just nasty take a look. it's called find a pox party in your area geared mainly toward sharing chicken pox virus among families who don't believe in vaccinating their children has anyone had success sharing the chicken pox with someone out of state by sending them something in the mail another response i got a pox package in the mail just moments ago i have two lollipops and a wet rag and spit. it just so wrong i had chicken pox when i was
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a kid so i understand it's miserable if you get it when you're older but are you going to give your kid dirty lollipops like by somebody else who had the chicken pox my kids are going to have the vaccine therefore this won't be an issue and i won't have to accept goods from a stranger that they have licked i mean i think you keep it under the radar this is such bad p.r. for a movement that is already you know. back in the day they used to do this when everybody got the chicken pox you go over to some kid's house who had it you could get it over with but now we're now on lollipops that's just wrong anyway i got a rabbit unfortunate thanks for joining me tonight that's it for tonight's show. thanks for tuning in make sure they come back tomorrow and weinstein is going to be on the show to discuss how the u.s. is currently spending more than we did during the cold war on the nuclear program in the meantime don't forget become a fan of below show on facebook followers on twitter p missed anything if the you tube dot com slash the letter show and coming up next from the.
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twenty years ago just country. so to. speak. where did it take them. to the. technology innovation called the list of elements from around russia we've. covered from los angeles to chicago to birmingham twenty trauma centers have closed since two thousand severe problem is not enough inpatient beds not enough urgency department beds and not enough nurses commandos to take care of all the people who know the only real health care system that we have in the city of los
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angeles is the los angeles fire department in fact when i started my venture is a firefighter i didn't want to pass and i started out going to just do fire fighting it's about eighty two percent of what we do the far the problem is medical i've had a rescue couple weeks ago waited four hours for i've waited sometimes three hours i was it's a same francis in lynnwood for four hours and fifty minutes standing against a wall with patients and we have a federal law that mandates that you can't turn no one away who seeks care in an emergency room. we have the most expensive health care system in the world and it's probably valued the least.
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