freeboard video for your media project free media john tarty john something. hello i'm going to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture for one patron of the occupy movement was released from the hospital over the weekend or checked in another round of violence police abuse against the occupy wall street movement over the weekend the latest updates what's up next rocker by wall street plus in just a few hours was causing governor scott walker will have to start fighting for his political life a break in the progressive recall effort the badger state and what kind of underhanded tactics walker supporters are resorting to make sure the war on labor continues and later in the show who wiped more than seven trillion dollars out of

our economy so you and i think. you need to know this over the weekend iraq war veterans scott olsen is finally released from the hospital also was nearly killed by oakland police when he was hit my head by tear gas canister during the police assault occupy oakland more than two weeks ago he suffered a skull fracture and brain injuries also released a photo of himself in the statement reading i'm feeling a lot better with a long road in front of me after my freedom of speech was quite literally taken from me my speech is coming back but i've got a lot of work to do with the rehab thank you for all your support it has meant the world to me you'll be hearing more from me in the near future and soon enough we'll see you in our streets around are the story of scott olsen being a cautionary tale for police on just how much force is too much force when dealing with a ninety nine percent movement who. departments around the nation resorted to that

same old brutal tactic once again over the weekend occupy portland was busted up police on sunday hauling fifty patriots off to jail the same thing happened in salt lake city where police arrested nineteen patriots on saturday and shut down that occupation in albany twenty four people were arrested in denver another week of police violence four people were arrested according to a statement from occupy denver denver cops kettle's people in together and riddled them with pepper balls another patriot was hit by a police motorcycle and had to be hospitalized and police were threatening to break people's teeth and shoot people their words at least they didn't move in with assault rifles like police in north carolina did a break up an occupation of patriots in chapel hill meanwhile in oakland where scott olsen was critically wounded by police there was yet another raid on the occupy oakland in camera this morning in full riot gear oakland police swept in tore down the camp and arrested twenty patriots as a result of this latest action oakland near gene klein's legal advisor don siegel

resigned from his job tweeting no longer marathons legal advisor resigned at two am support occupy oakland not the one percent and its government facilitators the latest on what just happened in oakland and elsewhere and joined on the phone from california by joshua holland senior writer and editor of alter net joshua welcome. thanks for joining us big crackdown in oakland this morning as we saw a few weeks ago a day after the crackdown people took to the streets the next night so could more violence be on the horizon tonight oakland. well i hope not but i think certainly in goodwill or two after the last crackdown i'm speaking to you from the main public library branch check out opinion fourteenth street where protesters promise to reconvene if they were evicted from the plaza about three hundred people here i guess is that they will protest after words of police officer was quoted earlier saying that all hands were on deck tonight that they feared protester violence i

can assure you that the protesters here also fear police violence there is some news today for bill clinton as well the a.c.l.u. of northern california and the national lawyers guild filed so you can see a police department for a discourse. there representing scott campbell who was a protester who killed himself being shot with a less lethal projectile and they're seeking a an emergency temporary restraining order for use therefore if they can't protesters in oakland he spoke with police department or hope but officials have until five pm told tomorrow should respond so that's what's happening right now on the ground in oakland you think of the occupy oakland group can self police themselves. well this is a running. in occupy oakland last night general assembly subject of heated debate tactics where appropriate like tactics were inappropriate

and more than anything else how different groups that have different views of that could work together without undermining each other this is doing as a diversity of tactic a lot of people say that that's simply a euphemism for cost condemning destruction or. alienate there should be unity but this is an ongoing debate within occupy oakland i would point out that the vast majority of protesters here do not believe in violence work and to live there. but but again because they believe they're listening and are recalled horizontally there is quite a bit of debate about what to do about those few that do believe they are very very interesting joshua holland joshua thanks so much for being with us tonight thanks a lot tom i appreciate it from occupy wall street who occupy the living room as thousands of pages around the nation get forced out of their occupations they're setting up camp on the lawns of homes on the verge of verge of foreclosure to save

their families getting kicked out to one of the latest offshoot of the ninety nine percent movement the occupy almost movement on turnover nick espinosa organizer with occupy minneapolis a make welcome i found they said to me thanks for joining us why occupy people's homes. you know right now all we want to do is expand this movement from wall street to main street to the folks who are most affected by this crisis so what we've done is move into the home of monique white who is living in north minneapolis which is the area of minneapolis that's been hardest hit by the foreclosure crisis it had over forty percent of the city's foreclosures our only thirteen percent of the city's homes are actually in north minneapolis something huge crisis for growth and we want to just tension to that crisis is is it that there's a question about who really owns these homes a step to do with like you know dicey bank activities or or even bank reselling of mortgages or is this just

a straight out. protest against the the the bubble economy and and the crash that has been brought to us by fill in the blank i mean presumably the austrian police think this is a very clear ask you know us bank is the bank owns her mortgage and we want to ask them to renegotiate with money to find a way to keep her in her home she's done everything right she's gone through hoops are trying to find a way for her and her family to stay home and rest for they have been unwilling to negotiate unfortunately monique's not alone you know hundreds of thousands of americans facing foreclosure and unfortunately as big banks are raking in record profits they're refusing to negotiate with homeowners like monique and you know when we have empty homes on the clock it does no good for anyone to get vacant homes the neighbor's property values are going down really think revenue for schools and our children and at the same time these banks if they do sell the house back they're starting it back i had about

a ten because the house across the street from monique's house sold for ninety five hundred dollars so it's unthinkable that they would negotiate her hundred thirty thousand dollars mortgage how successful well first of all are you occupying inside her house or or parked in the front lawn. you know we're both inside and out we've got folks on rowing sleeping bags on the floor inside the house and we've got about ten tents are staying out outside the house is about thirty to fifty people who are staying on any given night and watched more who are willing to mobilize should they decide that they want to come and try to take money and her family away from their home in their community has zero been had any successes so for you know we have we were working with a another homeowner by the name of berman who's not business daughter who is just asking for two more weeks to get moved out of her home and us bank again refused to negotiate with her for months she's gone to court and made phone calls get a call back all within twenty four hours of us announcing that we're working with her and protesting on her behalf her phone is ringing off the hook and we're going

to make a media we settle to give her more than what she asked for the caper eighteen days and about twenty five hundred dollars so we see that you know what the pressures on these banks really can negotiate and it brings the larger question of why are they negotiated for people all over the country what we need is a moratorium on foreclosures until we come up with a solution that keeps people in the home so that we can all. you know it's better for all of us that we're not having empty homes on the block. is this occupy homes movement something that is unique there in minneapolis or is it spreading around the country. it is spreading all over the country who've been in touch with people from arkansas oakland asset st louis but i can find a home in atlanta right now so we've seen this we see this moment in this moment a movement getting a lot of momentum and i think it's a great i think it's a great option for the occupy movement you know really getting into community into communities and engaging with the people who are hardest hit by this crisis

especially people of color who should be leading this movement as a long term most the fact that and i think it's a great strategy to bridge the gap between what is often criticized as a largely white that. and to actually work directly with the people who are most affected and what message do you have to other civil law in communities devastated by foreclosure you know don't give up hope we've seen that that the momentum that we're this movement is bringing is incredible and and things are shifting rapidly it's just been incredible to be part of this and i think homeowners like ruth and monique are seeing that when we stand together we can fight we can win and we can make these banks negotiate with us to find a solution that works for everyone that's great nick it may cost another thanks so much for being with us tonight. thank you from protecting foreclosure victims to convincing people to move their money out of big banks and into small credit unions and changing the dialogue in the media from the debt crisis to the jobs crisis to

getting even members of the republican party to talk about wealth inequality the success of the occupy movement so far has been substantial let's keep it up go occupy something. good sign for ideally pull your chance to tell us what you think the new york post reports that occupy wall street has caused businesses as a coffee party half a million dollars so will the new york post mention how much the banks across america it's choices are yes they'll also talk about breaking up the big banks stopping the predatory fact practices and fixing wall street or no they won't say that american families are nearly eight trillion dollars poorer today as a result of the financial meltdown are going to. you think paul will be open until tomorrow. coming up a recall of governor scott walker of wisconsin they put his war on unions on oil what does our nation need to do beyond that to make our economy work for the middle

class once again. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to get through get through to people who made who can you trust no one who is you are you with a global missionary zeal where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called fascism when nobody dares to ask we do you are t. question more. for. for.

just a few hours from now to the one am tuesday morning and governor scott walker recall campaign officially begins that's right tomorrow teams of canvassers will hit the streets across wisconsin in a bid to collect five hundred forty thousand signatures to trigger a recall election against scott walker organizers have sixty days to get enough signatures according to early polling voters are split right down the middle on whether or not they support iraq or recall but now some self identified conservatives are trying to tip the scales rockers factor favorites and the resorting to the usual republican electoral tactics cheating as mother jones is reporting facebook has with those of people bragging about how they plan to sabotage the recall effort as one individual for example named will jenkins writes

on the social networking website quote i am campus in an area that is very liberal i will be taking all those petitions inch reading them once i am done for my isp and estimation i'll be able to destroy fifteen to twenty thousand signatures others bragged that they will purposefully mislead wisconsin voters telling them it's illegal to sign more than one recall petition something is completely untrue so after last week's electoral backlash against republicans or ohio conservatives who was constant that desperate that they'll cheat to ensure that their hero scott walker stays navas then maskey joins me now from. he's an attorney and pro-democracy advocate as well as executive director of the liberty tree foundation ben welcome. thanks for having me thanks for joining us back isn't the straw in a recall petition a felony in wisconsin or maybe they're looking to do something about the inequity and racial incarceration rate there is a felony that serious prison time and major crime and i can tell you that there will be many more people out the streets of the state of wisconsin we're back in

the recall them opposed to it so i think those folks better be careful well if if it is a felony if it is a crime and people are bragging that they're going to do it. doesn't that probably just fall into the category of people blowing off daughter in this there really isn't any kind of organized campaign is this a tempest in a teapot but there definitely is an organized campaign to prevent the recall from going ahead i think it's going to fail it's going to fail utterly but you know i think if it takes different forms of different levels of that movement. in terms of . writing about interfering with the recall in terms of fraud but you also see it happening at the level of the legislature itself where there have been attempts to prevent the recall from moving forward by adding additional work waterman's to the process in the state of wisconsin requiring notarization vision something that we have not had before in this state you see you've seen basically what we expect in

wisconsin but they will at times everything they can think of and everything they can find and they've got plenty of money to prevent the recall moving ahead were they successful and now requiring a notary on anything to sign petitions. now you see i'm shaking my head and the answer is no there was an attempt to do that legislatively back up held up there's an attempt to put pressure on the supposedly nonpartisan government accountability board in bed appears to have been resistant so far and the reason is because there are some cheats heidelberg momentum that is building in this state today is almost a state holiday its recall walker eve out in the state of wisconsin and people are holding events all across the state this week i think we're going to see wisconsin rise again and i think it's going to be the story so it's like people are just waiting until one minute after midnight so they can sign the petition they're saying if you've already got the house right there's a bench going on you know and so starting at midnight some pieces some are starting ten o'clock tonight there are guns all over the state tomorrow i understand that

people are going to be continuing in scott walker's neighborhood some of his neighbors are hosting a bents in southeast wisconsin and this coming friday and saturday you're going to see major rallies want to bring more theater in madison on friday night and one of the state capitol on saturday so i think that this this movement is just picking up steam right now and it does have a festive spirit to it is is the recall or the threat of a successful recall i suppose which is probably considered more credible now after the results in ohio has that changed scott walker or his behaviors or the whole it's walker stand axis. he clearly thinks that he can do no wrong and he is living in a different world than the rest of the people to state i mean if he had been paying attention to politics in the way that a politician normally does he would have reversed himself he would have slowed down a long time ago and he hasn't done that it is mate we call necessary but this is a essential democratic right and it's

a right that has not been exercised all that often but the reality is that scott walker is one of the most divisive if not the most divisive figure in wisconsin this story and so people are gearing up and they're very excited to be moving ahead with this process they're workable and if you take a christer crystal ball where you think it's all going but i think that we're going to get the signatures i think you're going to see that if you go to recall locker or if you'll see one of the efforts there is also a united wisconsin and many other efforts across the state of wisconsin i think we're going to get the signatures many more than the minimum will be a very interesting next six months if we win this thing in wisconsin it will be very meaningful i think to people across the rest of the united states and so i expect that we'll have a lot of help from across the united states as well. ben thanks so much for being with us tonight. thanks so much appreciate it let's not forget how this recall effort against scott walker all started because walker decided to wage a war on unions earlier this year as we've all learned over the last thirty years

without strong union protections the middle class disappears as this chart shows union membership has declined over the past thirty years starting with reagan and with the middle class a share of total income in the united states also declined because of the red blue lines meanwhile the green line the one percent income sure has risen dramatically now the transnational corporate c.e.o.'s don't have to deal with pesky labor unions either holding them accountable or demanding higher wages and safer working conditions so once again corporations are employing the working poor illegal immigrants or slaves overseas to do work rather than giving americans a decent paying job in a shot of the middle class is this a cancerous consequence of free market capitalism it's simple to get rid of unions skew the tax system to favor the capitalists will make money with money and the middle class dies so what's more important a healthy middle class or a healthy capitalist class this is i think one of our questions of the day and the answer that i'm joined by jamie weinstein senior editor of the daily caller jeannie

could see you get good beer tom thank you i want to just set this up with this this whole conversation that you and i had and came out of the reason i'm going to run a cello on saturday for a wedding anniversary and. looking back and you know the whole slavery and all that kind of stuff and looking back on it. from the founding of the country until the civil war we had slavery as a major source of labor and in the north there was child labor over twenty five percent in some cases over forty pills being at the south as one of the port of sections it was the port section of the country and in the north you had child labor you know as much as twenty five thirty percent of labor force people under fifteen and that pretty much extended you know after we construction you saw child labor exploding we had immigrant labor we had restricted immigration of the united states to one hundred twenty four and that suppressed the cost of wages so it seems to me i mean looking at this arc of history and i've written two books on it i've

done my homework that there really is only this one period this is all forty year period from one nine hundred forty basically until the one nine hundred eighty s. when there was what we would call a middle class the united states when we rely on either on literally on slaves or on wage slaves were child labor and since the one nine hundred eighty s. and one nine hundred ninety s. that particular clinton's trade policies were back to rely on slaves we just don't have them here in this country anymore we we've export a good find slaves well i mean you were not right i mean i think first i find that i mean it's a loaded term you were not going to relying on slave owners they were lying on low wage workers overseas which which person i don't think it's necessarily entirely accurate there are certainly some factories overseas that employ people for low wages and if you ask them i don't think they would consider themselves slaves given the option i think they would rather have that job but no job at all because there are worse than why and so i pan and why you know so many of the factories and in

many countries across asia and principally major you know write a paper when but you know we should know that is absolutely just anyone anyone that's a lock someone in there and forces them to work that that is you know if i speak over my life on what made the they have put a net around it rough because i'm going to put as many places where there is low wages. and you know there's been plenty of this to be shown in the economist will say this the option is not between the the low wage and something better it's between that or nothing at all which is which is obviously not a boy and i haven't i haven't really got to this thesis that i want to discuss with you and i rather than debate it with you on discussing it. is that you know we started with slavery and cheap labor and we're back to slavery and cheap labor you can call it whatever you want and that during that period that forty year period of very high unionization and states here's the thesis basically that when you aggregate kaput. in a small number of hands in eventually will corrupt the system in which it exists to

the point that basically the system can't be called a democratic republic anymore it ends it the you end up with the end of competition in individual industries get dominated by a small number of companies in each case a very very wealthy individuals and basically you're an oligarchy in fact they have their own special tax and i reject it i'm sorry the entire if you try to pieces in several parts one is that the idea that for only a short period of time america was truly having a middle class and in something to be said more than fifty percent but but but the fact of the matter is that there was a reason people were leaving other countries to come here because the opportunity to succeed was so great and the ideal in that time we were limiting immigration we sort of limited immigration one hundred twenty. which period you refer to i'm saying their primary period people to easter the eighties we limiting immigration people people came so you're saying that if we want to you want to live in immigration of united states you know what i'm saying is that if your argument is that because people want to come here i think you actually you're making my

argument i'm saying that that was the golden era of the middle class people wanted to come here before they come let me begin with rationing united states what you're looking at were much of the rest of the art as a whole right but exactly i mean we had a lots of lots of free resources that we're following here pointing to a certain factor slavery and what not to to show you know apparently america was built on this but those were not the exceptions of america those were the rule the world america with like everywhere else in the world because they had slavery and also other decrepit think what made america unique was the opportunity to succeed and it's democratic republican so it's not capitals i mean let's sort of i stipulate i don't think there was really what you're defining as capitalism i mean you're acting as if capitalism is a wow is crony capitalism to corporations that's not that's not capitalism ok you don't make your living your capital by living your capital neither one of us i don't i don't know your entire history but i can say i've never been a capitalist i've started a bunch of businesses i've run businesses. never made my living on capital gains

capital set your own tax rate. and i'm guessing the same is true for you so we're not capitals and by the way you're redefining capitalism in to a certain extent we're talking in a free market a whole system a capitalist system where there's free markets. and it is a good this is a free market system it's capitalism is one piece but there's a very small number of people who are actually capital who actually make their living with cash and i know what you're trying to say here trying to say we're going to share it what happened was they person around says my cap with money capitalism which is a system you're talking about a capitalist who who uses capital to to make money but capitalism or socialism if you know probably have you know the there's enormous power with aggregated care and that if something doesn't balance that power and in this case i'm saying unions something doesn't balance of power it's going to become cancerous it's going to tip the society in a way that's destructive this is to this is this is what all of this is what we know and what we've seen in the last thirty years since china and india have more

of a move more towards a free market system not perfect by any means but certainly away from their more of centralized policies we saw in china nine hundred seventy nine with the experiment in chains and now expanded other places hundreds of millions of people have been brought out of poverty through the free market cap was this the most as we had our capitalists and there's and there's you know there's there's rising demand for unions there in those countries as well people are saying we want to be able to balance the power of accumulated capital i think we're arguing past each other to some extent you're trying to make a case that capitalism in capitalists and in trying to sparse words here but capitalism is an evil in the case of the market system. there's a lot doesn't mean doesn't mean you can be a wage earner it's still part of the capitalist system. well you can be but you're not a capitalist your wager and capital says a person makes their money through investments they pay back some fifteen percent income tax rate right now it was an actual tax rate for capital it's not just

through investments it's a cap capitalism use capital to create goods steve jobs is a capitalist. did a remarkable thing was. you know the guy i am has to do the jobs is not a capitalist he started a company in his in his garage where you said yes he started a company actually i think he made another money at atari wasn't it made enough money at that ari they could build that computer and market system that he was operating in but i think you're going to hear you're hearing enterprise you're playing like a semantic i think it's a man who came here we're saying that capitalists is helping them to do their job during a time when when unions had enough power in the united states that people like steve jobs could get a job at atari and paid enough but he didn't have to get your credit needs to be your training you need this for creating steve jobs i was a comma and he wouldn't suggest that he in fact he said he will ministration is too much regulation on business as it is steve jobs it was someone who used the opportunities in the free market system he was appointed to be upper middle class

which he would he absolutely was not a part of out of the middle class he couldn't afford college he dropped out of college he had no money you might say he was poor actually very poor he walked he walked it while in college miles to get one for free hot meal a week at how the christian years he hardly was of the upper middle class he was he was poor oh well that's that's great but that doesn't mean that he was a capitalist he didn't begin the business with. ok he he he he he he was an entrepreneur ok and that's what and that's what all conservative support copper trap was all in favor of free markets is unfair as you're trying you're trying to make a distinction here which which is and it's very clear distinction i don't think it is at all i think what you're trying to say is that capitalism has nothing to do with capitalists. you think the free market system of capitalism is different than capitalists ok well apparent we are talking about us and other anyone to wrap it up jamie thank you for dropping by it's well to try it again maybe next saturday at

eight in my opinion a middle class doesn't exist on its own it's not something that exists in nature it's that it has to be nurtured by a government it has to be nurtured by things like regulations by higher taxes on millionaires and billionaires by trade policies that support domestic manufacturing and press most importantly by support for labor unions unfortunately all those things i just mentioned policies that create a middle class have been largely abandoned in the united states and middle class is vanishing as a result time to roll back the reagan tax cut drop out of the so-called free trade agreements and bring democracy back to the workplace your middle class depends on. after the break big news came out of the supreme court today on the fate of obamacare so will the five right wing justices in the high court impartially interpret the law and will if past actions like bush v gore and citizens united and simply vote their party wrong. drives the world the fear mongering used by pollack.