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well back to the big picture i'm sorry when coming up in this half hour beginning next year the supreme court will hear arguments in the case of president obama's affordable care act also known as obamacare so what's a stake and will the roberts court once again ignore precedent and hand a victory to health care billionaires also what's the connection between strict christian fundamentalist homes and child abuse answer in tonight's everything you know is one side and finally what's a reasonable price to pay to ensure that the banks are one percent doesn't destroy our economy again in my daily take i'll tell you why whatever occupy wall street costs it's well worth it. several lower courts have had their turn now it's the supreme court's turn to rule

on obamacare the affordable care act today the high court announced that it will hear five hours of oral argument really next year most likely around march to determine the constitutionality of president obama's affordable care act normally the court hears with one hour of world arguments in each case of the fact that it's agreed to hear five hours in this case shows apparently just no seriously the supreme court is taking. centerpiece of the challenge to obamacare is the individual mandate and whether or not the federal government can force someone to buy health insurance just last week a prominent conservative judge. ruled that the government can force people to buy insurance and other part of the affordable care act but how might five conservatives and four openly partisan republicans on the high court weigh in amanda beadle joins me now she's a reporter and blogger with think progress and welcome back i'm going to be here great to have you here so the supreme court has a lot of five hours for oral arguments are going to happen i think i would have in fact that is the other. normal amount so much time. the issues they're going to

handle that they're looking at three different parts of this and if you even if you go back to it this is such a divisive issue while they're debating it but at the same time a major conservative judge and judges have upheld this in the lower courts you mentioned judge cavanagh but. d.c. circuit as well there's judge. i'm going to start with the so one of the judges who is in a conservative who worked in the nixon administration president george w. bush from the presidential medal of freedom he wrote in his opinion holding the concerts now before the care act that the people arguing that the law was unconstitutional that they had no standing in the constitution so out of the twelve . appeals court judges that have heard this so far only three of them have said that it's unconstitutional and they are far outliers on the side that it's going to be one of those issues that this is a prime court hopefully is not going to listen to outliers hopefully they'll listen

to the judges like the ultra conservative judge on the d.c. circuit has already said that it is constitutional or. to what extent might the fact that there's not really a mandate here boy and with my understanding of the with the was constructed is that if you don't buy insurance you're supposed to pay extra. axis but there's not really i'm going to force him out of this if you don't pay that tax the iris can't come after you you can't rush things like that so it's sort of like a mandate without a with it without as you know without a stick and i think that if you don't or i'm disappointed if you don't buy insurance then you have to pay a little more in your income taxes and so that i don't really have to pay you know it's yeah if you think of any tax that's you don't pay the taxes then it's easy to pay the tax and they'll come after you for that not that you know but there isn't a source there isn't force ok i you know so the supreme court i mean all the way back in

a lot of this has to do with the commerce clause yes the commerce clause the constitution basically gives the federal government the right to regulate commerce among them between the various states because that language is a whole. and back in twenty four and givens versus our. judge john marshall marshall was put on the court one thousand nine hundred by john adams he's arguably the first major conservative member of the supreme court he's the one who grabbed just a review in eighty three and barbour versus madison me john marshall has a lot to answer for but in this case in this. given sources are one hundred twenty four he basically said the federal government has the right to regulate interstate commerce it's in the constitution so we just let it settle two hundred years ago. so what's the argument that these people are making basically how i'm understanding is that people are saying that the federal government cannot regulate it if they are they can't force you to buy something they can only regulate it if you are buying something but if you look at it that the commerce clause lets congress

regulate commerce part of the economy but you're talking about health care is one state for economy what other important part of life out there is there that congress can't work that congress needs to regulate in dealing with something that is an enormous part of our economy and it's incredibly costly and costs are only going to continue rising so it's having to slaughter people are being told ok you need to buy health insurance now rather than wait until then you need it because otherwise if i really can just wait until they need health insurance it's going to be so costly for our system that we're all going bankrupt anyway how are the arguments that are being made similar or dissimilar from arguments made to a civil rights. i'm not sure about the civil rights argument so i think it's one of those things that nobody ever wants to be forced to accept change that's probably the closest you can get so people people don't want to accept that they don't want to think that oh will we have to have health insurance just as people thought it will we don't have to allow blacks to you know you might want to counters and. i

think at the time that those kinds of decisions were made america was white america and we started to change their opinions. to revisit for time but with regard to obamacare we're seen now now that pieces of it have gone into effect you know twenty six year olds and some price controls and things. more than fifty percent of americans are now in support of obamacare i think it's great to talk about things in the abstract as far as that know will there's this thing out there that's going to really hurt you once it's in place a once in someplace and people figure out that it's not hurting them so much public opinion is kind of starting to be on this side of obama's health care reform law in this case in the court very often. thought it was public opinion some present thought was it by generation. you know going back to the country very often do. a ruling is expected in late june what do you think in the minute we have lost here what do you think the political consequences of that ruling will be in the

direction of settling in to dominate the last end of the presidential election i think it all depends on what the ruling is that either way it's either the supreme court goes the opposite direction this number way and so it's unconstitutional and we have to back up from there but most likely i think the supreme court will decide it's constitutional and then president obama can spend the last part of his month campaigning for reelection explaining even more as to why this law is so great for people and i think it's going to highlight for people the stakes in the presidential election because you know as it was on the supreme court it was probably going to be a few openings coming up in the next four or five years given the health of everybody was on it when the attack the court all the things people care about this remarkable man thanks so much for thank you good to see you. who knows how the supreme court will rule but one thing is for sure the nation can't make it much longer without true health care reform and by that i personally mean a single payer system state of vermont is on its way to an act in such a system as also as montana so other states follow suit every once and as access to

medicare part d. for everyone. just. it's time for the good the bad and the very very surely ugly the good. makana the why guitars lead to good playing at the asian pacific economic cooperation forum in honolulu over the weekend and realizing he was in a room full of leaders including president obama and leave business interests in qana didn't let the opportunity go to waste down the shirt reading occupied with aloha and played a song he wrote called we are the many for forty five minutes as the world will be with afterward here's himself strike you that. scientists came from playing the world leaders' dinner at apec here in honolulu for the obama's and

i guess nineteen or twenty other world leaders so i showed up and did my gig and i started to look around and i thought. about the song i just wrote called where the menu. and it was an incredible experience to sing the words those words to that room keep. great job the bad the show are you hypnotized bachmann and this weekend's republican debate bachmann urged the united states to be more like china though it really shouldn't take a look at what i would want to do is be able to go back and take a look at lyndon baines challenge that it's the great society the great society has now worked and it's put us into the pot or into the welfare state if you look at china they don't have food stamps if you look at china they're in a very different subject they save for their own retirement security they don't

have a f e c they don't have the modern welfare state and china's growing. i don't think that will fly to well with the like. and the very very ugly very voice clear voice clear is running against democratic congressman keith ellison of minnesota congressman ellison is a muslim so boyce cleric a campaign ad drenched in so much islamophobia and eight even you tube play it saying that a volatile violates their policy on just busting on turns to work. congressman ellison swore an oath to uphold the constitution on a qur'an the koran says christians and jews are infidels the koran says christians are blessed beamers who should have their hands and feet cut off and that they should be crucified and killed do you really want someone representing you who swears an oath on a koran a book that undermines our constitution and says you should be killed i'm curious

boy clear and i approve this message. it was so odd i was jefferson's bible koran by the way clearly voice clearly knows nothing about is long and that's a very. crazy alert the next evolution peasants in stockholm sweden are now frequent travelers on the underground metro card in metro officials the pigeons stand calmly at the platform and wait for the subway train for arrive when it does they get on travel one stop jump off and then head for their favorite aunt's pigeons travel one stop from their homes to stockholm district known for its cafes and shops where the pigeons know there's going to be plenty of food at the end of the day the pigeons get back on the underground metro and ride it back to their homes that are

officials are trained to shoot the pigeons away from the trains but as one man said they behave well while on board and don't seem to be making much of a mouse they also choose to live travel later in the day cleverly avoiding rush hour. perhaps that's because they don't want to be stepped on and reveal their true old body nature of computer wires and chips that's right the robotic pigeons from planet zito have now started out using our public transportation their takeover of the world could be just around the corner. up next rupert murdoch's new york post accuses occupy wall street of hurting local businesses want to hurt local business even answer ins and outs daily to. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions compelled to break through get through it it may who can you trust no one who is in view with the global machinery city where we had

a state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more. so sometimes you know what you know and sometimes you know what you don't know and sometimes is the fires and. everything you know is wrong and i don't think your if

you want your right. to make. sure. you are always wrong. in everything you know is wrong my expert guests challenge the conventional wisdom on the very things that most of us just assumed to be the truth even though we've never really stopped to think about the real story behind except the norms and i would take a look at child rearing brazen joe there's a disturbing connection between child abuse and some sects within christian fundamentalism or you might think that a home that abides by strict religious morals may be a suitable place for a child to grow up and the thing you know is wrong frank schaefer joins me now he's a writer and author of the book crazy for god i grew up as one of the elect helped found the religious right and lived to take are almost all of it back frank welcome thanks to be with you again thank you for joining us what's the rationale behind beating children when jesus speaking of of i would

assume something like this but the punishment for child abuse was worse than having a millstone hung around your neck or being thrown into the sea. yeah well you know it goes back to that passage that can spare the rod is to spoil the child and they kind of strict interpretation of the bible the fundamentalists have got to understand this is the same group that has very gentleman talk about the bible calling for the execution of gay people that women should submit to men exact or exact or a so this is not an isolated incident of talent he aimed at children instead of world view which is hierarchical strict and at times brutal and has come to the fore with a couple of books recently one by michael and patty pearl it calls for beating children starting at six months of age with a stick and sometimes shoving them outside into the cold a couple of kids of god in their criminal complaints now from people who have been

reading their book and obviously taken things probably further than the authors intended but when you couple it with the teachings of bill guthrie who has following in millions and even jellicoe mainstream and then dr dobson started focus on the family who in one of his books in the ninety's talked about how he beat a dog. and taught him to submit to him and then and then transferred that idea to child psychology it isn't just a couple of isolated incidents or a couple of cultic figures you know there's a large homeschool movement in america most people in the movement would be saying decent parents but there are claves in america where we have kids who are growing up in circumstances that are probably more akin to what some child is experiencing in a brutal taliban controlled village in afghanistan than anything people would consider to be the american way so this isn't left right democrat republican this is just an

interest even joe local slash fundamentalist christianity of a certain type and again i say not by any means all evangelicals but there is a swath and i think the scary thing is how many know. eons of copies of built our third books have sold almost a million copies of this book by the pearl's has sold and of course dr dobson has a worldwide following on focus on the family and he's a huge advocate of spanking says we have a spank theory on children until they collapse sobbing into loving arms but it's a weird definition of loving arms and as a father of three kids and be proud grandfather of four little wonderful grandchildren. you know something like that just makes my blood run cold and it also brings up a really ironic point you know the evangelicals are leading the charge against gay marriage responsible gay men and women marrying each other to raise often children who would have no parents whatsoever because they're doctored from agencies that have trouble placing kids foster kids typically you know these responsible parents

are called illegitimate by evangelicals and here you don't hear the more mainstream evangelicals who might not agree with its teaching denouncing it so it's just it's telling to me that this even exists in christian bookstores carry these books that pastors teach from them the result is a lot of little kids crying themselves to sleep tonight with welts on their back or locked in a cold dark cellar wrapped in called cloth as one of these books advocates all in the name of jesus so it boggles the mind and it's horrific frankin in mormonism the mormon sect. is openly polygamous f l f l l l the whatever it is. or is a is a clearly defined a fringe group that has a specific identity and specific location this seems to cut right across the evangelical movement in different churches that may identify themselves even with different denominations one might be bad just another might be from. church of god

another motive is do i have that right. yeah absolutely i mean if you look at somebody like bill cafferty he's what's called a eric church leader in other words he doesn't have a denomination but millions of followers back in the eighty's he was conducting summer i was with him then you didn't see twenty thousand and it packed him out and it would be thirty hours of instruction and someone disciplined for instance one of the things he taught related to this was that you can get married to your parents your father chose a spouse for you you have to live at home a single. has homes he has fifteen fourteen homes that often state agencies put quote troubled youth and i'm talking about ten year old little girls now not eighteen year old juvenile delinquents but little kids and in a number of states this is well documented in the media and by the way i had a piece on both alternate and huffington post people want to go to the links and and look at this. where they're being investigated for absolutely incredible child

particularly kids mean a sudden puddles of their own urine beaten with a paddle fourteen times by all the teenagers put in isolation for days at a time this has actually been going on and has been alleged to be going on and is being investigated by authorities now bill gothard is not a fringe figure buildout it is mainstream big time even general eric church organization and there are other figures like it might be pearls were in the books and then the you know bill gothard and they all basically reacted against what they called secularism and wanted to bring back discipline against. you know the background of dr spock coming out of the sixty's and what they regarded was a license and they started saying well we've got to start spanking again and now this is gone to a level where it's almost a kind of a political statement that we're not liberals you know we're not tolerant we're going to stand out to you hold our kids won't be gay you know we're going to spank

the devil out of them and that's the attitude and then it goes a step further like with the pearls for instance and that book can train up a child advocates using up. coming to live in tells you where to buy it at lowe's or home depot used kind of a plumbing implement is made out of plastic bell rang metal and so really get their attention frank frank we're out of time but. i've read your article and alternate and it's truly remarkable thanks so much for being here with us tonight you're welcome thanks for having me. now everything you know about christian fundamentalism and child raising is right but there's more that you should know ever heard of dr daniel gottlieb with morris which. showed up in eight hundred fifty eight seems like a long time ago one hundred fifty years ago there was a series of books that this guy wrote they were the bestselling books in the german language they were in virtually every german home most people had several copies of several different of his books and what he advocated was that children must never

cry that you should spank them when you do now this was an eight hundred fifty eight these books were still in fact not just still being sold in the one nine hundred thirty s. but when the nazis came to power hitler was pushing these books and this was this was you know don't huddle cuddle your kids don't hold your kids don't coddle them if they cry spank them when they do in fact he wrote master the crying baby through flight mean it and you will be master the child forever from then on a glance a word a single threatening gesture will be sufficient to control the child and the consequence of this is several generations of compliant damaged order following out of following germans came out of this and some would argue let us in the world wars wanted too. so the opposite end of that spectrum is what sweden did one hundred seventy eight in one hundred seventy eight sweden and a spanking and the time seventy percent of swedes opposed the war and made it

through the parliament anyway and in a lot a generation later the children who were raised in a spanking less society only ten percent oppose the war in one thousand nine hundred seven and sweden has now become famous for being a peaceful society and the united states there are no federal laws against corporal punishment in spain and only nineteen states ban it in my opinion it's time to ban corporal punishment right across the board united states. according to rupert murdoch's paper the new york post occupy wall street has crossed businesses around zuccotti park for nearly a half million dollars so far right wing newspaper reports the business owners are complaining at the sight of the patriots organizing nearby deters customers from

shopping or dining inside you know like most things that come out of rupert murdoch's media empire from the wall street journal to g.o.p. t.v. you know fox news to the new york post you have to question whether or not this report is true and true or not it certainly ignores the millions and tourist dollars coming into manhattan because of zuccotti park what's going on there but let's ignore that part and pretend for a moment that the murdoch report in the new york post actually is true that occupy wall street actually is costing some nearby businesses a few hundred thousand dollars raises the question. that not be a small price to pay to fix a corrupt economic system run by banks toure's who cost our economy. really i'm not hundreds not thousands not billions not millions but trillions of

dollars consider these numbers today only fifty eight percent of americans have a job thanks to the bankers economic meltdown and george w. bush's republican great recession today only fifty three million people actually not only fully fifty three million people are without health insurance thanks to a health care system that only benefits the one percent today thanks to the one percent economy forty nine million americans live in poverty including one out of every five children today forty four million americans are on food stamps nearly half of them children today thanks to the one percent economy that has sent nearly all of the new growth created in our nation since one nine hundred eighty to just talk one percent the average annual income for americans is a measly twenty six thousand two hundred sixty one dollars that's because the

typical hourly wage is going up just over a dollar twenty three over the last thirty six years so since people don't have enough money to pay for rising food energy health care and education costs in this new one percent economy and people have been my credit cards compensate and sink deeper and deeper into debt today the average american household is burden with over seventy five thousand dollars in debt and consider this the new york post is reporting that occupy wall street is costing businesses a few hundred thousand dollars american families today are seven point seven trillion dollars poorer than they were in two thousand and seven and for the banks to surround as a garden part crashed our economy so isn't that what the new york post should really be focusing on. occupy wall street isn't free and maybe business is losing out on some customers and maybe a local government paying police officers overtime to crack down on occupy wall street even though they probably don't have to think of those lost money as an investment occupy wall street is an investment today so that our economy doesn't

get swindled by the top one percent for the next thirty years like it has for the last three years and whatever lost revenue some of the shops there's a cottage park maybe missing out up imagine what kind of damage would be done without occupy wall street and with banks toure's running around awhile again like they did back in two thousand that's the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we've covered visit our website so tom hartman dot com please speech that we're going to. also check out our to you tube channels there are links to tom harkin dot com it's our show is also available as a free video podcast i tunes and we have a free part of i phone and i had happened yesterday he said his feedback on twitter and so on underscore has been on facebook a time underscore haven't blogs message boards are told. and don't forget to mark receive begins with you you show off and get active get out there and get i can tag your it occupies something we'll see tomorrow.

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