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after an iraqi war veteran sustained severe head injuries during a demonstration and. now it's back to our washington studio for the second part of the show. sorry guys it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliant and engaging viewer comments from facebook twitter and you tube because we've got something to say i listen now first on respond of your the watched our interview with trevor tim over the e.f.-s. of the government's victory in court which will force twitter to hand over the
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information of wiki leaks volunteers red finger said this is not twitter's fault twitter has been one of the few websites to contest the secret subpoenas that are being issued out all over the place and in addition they're one of the few that actually informed their users about the practice as the commentator mentions they actually inform the users that were having their i.d. taken in accordance with the court order which was obviously legally binding to twitter and they took that issue to court which means that they did the best they could now i think what our viewer is deadly right the twitter has been one of the only tech companies to actually fight the government's attempts to gain access to user information and for that they should be commended but there is a little bone that i have to pick with that that they chose to store their users ip information for eighteen months in the first place and they continue to do so as only makes it easier for the government to ask for more personal information about more users so twitter might save itself and its users more privacy battles in court if it changes its own policies or next i want to respond to dave the father who watched an interview about the defeat of several republican measures in elections
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across the country last wednesday he said corporate personhood is one of the top major problems in the u.s. it perverts the entire system even with occupy wall street isn't being debated or talked to. enough yet now i definitely think the influence of money in politics and the corruption that it breeds isn't talked about enough i've spoken extensively about the citizens united decision decision on the show and other media personalities people like dylan ratigan jane huger they've tried to raise awareness about getting money out of politics too but despite those attempts corporate personhood still remains and we need to see more concrete steps to changing that reality and i for one think that it's time that americans stand up get serious about tackling that issue starting with a constitutional amendment overturning the citizens united decision now finally i want to respond to a viewer who tweeted at us government flew to it and thank you very much alone of the ilona show for your comments about us veterans out here felt more real than those of m.s.m. reporters and i just like to say thank you so much for watching there really isn't
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nearly enough coverage out there in my opinion about the issues the veterans face as consequences of our politicians constantly wanting more war so please continue to watch and i'll continue to bring my best efforts at covering what matters to the veterans of my ranting tonight but i'll be back with more later in the week as usual. i think it's fairly clear at this point that the banks will do just about anything to take your money and if this last month the news doesn't prove that then i don't know what does and perhaps the lowest of the low we brought you the news earlier this month that banks like j.p. morgan wells fargo and bank of america were making billions in fees off of those who receive government assistance and partake in social programs like food stamps through their exclusive deals with the government to dole out the aid on debit cards debit cards which they then charge excessive fees on but that was just the tip of the iceberg last week we reported on the landmark settlement where bank of america was ordered to pay stemming from a class action lawsuit after it became clear the bank was manipulating the
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processing of purchases to get more and overdraft fees on the settlement while a step in the right direction was only about ten percent of the money that the bank actually made off of their shady practices so then we thought that perhaps. there was another win for consumers and bank of america and others out there scrapped their plans to charge a five dollars debit fee after a lot of public outrage but somehow we knew that they were going to stop there they had billions in revenue to make up for so now looks like several banks have just scrapped that whole idea of publicly announcing their fees all together some estimate of the banks have about eight to twelve billion dollars in annual gap that they usually get through those hidden fees from customers financial consulting firm all over wyman says that now banks need to get about fifteen to twenty dollars per month from each customer to keep their earnings in an expected level so what are they keeping secrets that you should know for example bank of america is charging five dollars if you need to replace your last debit card you want to posit a check in to your account from your mobile device well that's going to carry a fifty cent per check at u.s. bank or now if you belong to t.d.
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bank and you're getting money wired to your account that's going to cost you fifteen dollars several banks also raise the fees for their regular checking accounts chase is now charging twelve dollars a month citi group went to eight from eight to ten dollars a month and bank of america up to speed by three dollars a month earlier this year now other banks say that those fees are on necessary insist that they're very transparent about their charges two democratic senators are making it known that they're fed up with the practices dick durbin and jack reed of called on the consumer financial protection bureau to adopt a format that would disclose hidden fees in a consumer friendly format and a statement they say simply put consumers have had enough of banks to try to sneak fees past them that are hidden in fine print or imposed with no notice at all and we should also know that those who consider themselves good customers now they're getting screwed by the banks to banks are lowering the rates to get paid out to customers they keep the money in their accounts market rates inside a financial market research firm says the average interest rate for deposit
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accounts of fall into seven hundred four point seven four percent that's a decrease in the point eight percent they held earlier this year that might seem like a small pain for consumers but it turns out that's going to save the banks one point five billion dollars a month so just let this be a lesson to customers out there always read the fine print and might protect you from those hidden fees until the government might come up with another round of regulations to protect consumer money. now the f.c.c. is indecency regulations out of touch and unconstitutional and our changing world of the cato institute the center for democracy and technology public knowledge tech freedom and the electronic frontier foundation are asking the supreme court to say the five groups filed an amicus brief last week asking the high court to extend full first amendment protection to broadcast media and overturn the one thousand nine hundred decision the f.c.c. very specific now the original case was famously known because comedian george carlin's monologue about the seven words you can never say on television was broadcast on the radio and the supreme court use the fine against pacifica because
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broadcast media was quote uniquely pervasive and uniquely accessible to children but today with more and more people turning to the internet streaming satellite you name it and a new case going back to the supreme court an f.c.c. versus fox does that argument still stand here to discuss it with me as julian sanchez research fellow at the cato institute joined thanks so much for being here tonight was a pleasure so i gave a little backstory here in terms of the original supreme court ruling here with the george carlin case but let's talk about this new case one that's already been the supreme court in the case of fox and why it's coming back up here give us some detail so the second circuit basically invalidated the f.c.c. regulations on first term grounds for vagueness after the supreme court has kicked it back to them on a technicality the idea here is that the rules don't really give broadcasters a clear sense of what's allowed and what's not and it's clear this had a chilling effect on for example news gathering of cases of local news stations deciding they can't do
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a live event coverage or in one case cover the funeral of slain soldier pat tillman because they weren't they were confident that they could avoid a really punitive f.c.c. fine if you know if they slipped and let you know that ford slip on the air ironically the second circuit decision could not be read on the air on broadcast television because it contains in the opinion a word that rhymes with duck. so the question now although i mean if it isn't part of the problem because it wasn't just these seven words that were outlined but they ended up expanding it because otherwise it doesn't seem all that vague if you have seven exact words to follow or to avoid the problem is that there's any any form of indecency that you know ordinary person would find shocking when it's this is the problem is that it's it's very difficult to know in advance you know exactly what's behind it it makes it very difficult again to do live television even if you have you know a sense of clearly what's prohibited some things are presumptively where it does create a burden on station as they're trying to air live events and so the vagueness issue
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is is what the second circuit decided they decided not to overturn that george carlin decision but what a lot of groups are doing kate or urging the court to do here is what the supreme the second circuit wasn't willing to do because they felt bound by that decision but it was time at this point i think when ninety percent of counsel did have a t.v. or getting it their content through satellite or. or cable and through things like broadband internet as well to ask what does it really make sense to have this totally different regime for governing broadcast as though it were you know the fifty's or the sixty's when yeah you know that was the only way you were going to get video content in your home you know it's pretty clear at this point that if we tried to impose these kinds of regulations on cable or on the internet that would plainly be unconstitutional so the question is does it make sense in two thousand and eleven for broadcast t.v. to be carved out of broadcast radio to be carved out as this sort of special constitution free zone ok so. knowing our supreme court here actually now we'll get
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back to that question but first here saying that you basically just wanted to be a free for all right anything can be said well anything can be said in terms of the law on cable but that doesn't mean you're going to turn on the disney channel and hear people you know swearing like harvick i tell you the main reason most channels and most programs don't you know just turn into. h.b.o. broadcasting is that most people don't want to hear that they know they want to know what kind of content they're going to get and they have a huge number of options now to regulate that i mean parents who read about their kids you know program their t.v.'s or program needs their t.v. ours to only out allow access without a password to you know the disney channel nickelodeon and p.b.s. if that's what they want their kids to so the idea that you know that that either there's no way to limit kids' access to stuff that's friendly for kids or that somehow you know without the law every station is just going to sound like an
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episode of the wire doesn't make sense ok but so do you think if you look at trends right because you're saying now not everybody just sits down and watches t.v. in their living and you have so many other options out there you have the internet but are those areas that we're going to see continue to be these free zones and broadcast media is going to stand on its own if this decision is no rules or are those areas where slowly we're going to see. similar encroachments begin this is an area where really every time it's come up the court has been pretty good about slapping down restrictions of saying basically look you can take a general speech zone and say well needs to protecting kids no one may speak in a way that is that is only acceptable to just that is not a couple that a lot of that is up to the private companies right to say you tube or somebody like that they want to put out that information there if they want to if they want to bring a video down it's because they have their own personal policy about what they can sure and then i think make sense you know decide what a particular website or a particular channel
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a policy that matches what you think is appropriate for your kids and then you you know you look at what is ok for them and you don't look at the things that you don't think are appropriate ok so looking at this supreme court the type of decisions that it's made thus far do you think it's going to say go ahead because on t.v. all you want because that's your first amendment right i think there's actually a decent chance even looking at the decision where they kicked it back down to the . you know to the circuit court there to the appeals court there was a strong sense that they were sort of saying well does it mean does it make sense anymore to have this special asymmetry even i actually we're seeing it at an event . former f.c.c. chairman powell who was part of this crackdown on fleeting expletives at an event once he was no longer chairman basically admitted that as a constitutional matter this different treatment just didn't make sense anymore all right well i'm i'm on your side here i'm with cato and i like trying to hear foundation and i would like to see the supreme court rule in that way because i agree i think it will outdated and there are many ways to protect your children if
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you don't want washington certain things but yeah. all right thanks for joining us tonight. all eyes are on the super committee to find out who's going to be facing the worst of the budget cuts but it looks like we're not going to know what's on the chopping block for quite a while but i details on that and i told time segment and then happy hour obama stops in apec tradition and calls on yet another political daughter to join their team of correspondents in fact. right to clean. one. square kilometer.
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hi guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight because of the super committee members in congress now in just about a week and a half the super committee must announce their plan to get a one point two trillion dollars minimum from the deficit and it appears that they are far from an agreement and if no deal is reached the automatic triggers are going to take triggers are going to kick in social programs the democrats level face cuts while the republican sacred cows defense spending will also be slashed now even though the thought of these cuts is led to some truly pathetic maneuvering from both sides about the debt deal each side is feeding the media their talking points claiming a bay are really really trying to reach a compromise. republicans saying that they have given some by getting revenue to the table bringing in more money into the government by getting rid of some
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deductions but they also want to see tax rates be lowered for all americans democrats are saying it has been a painful process for them looking at entitlements. all right so while the media is reporting on the negotiations the kind of missing the real story here first we knew that some members of congress like john mccain were trying to scrap the trigger so there would be no punishment for not coming to a deal but now they've got even flying near a plant you see some lawmakers on capitol hill are now suggesting that the issue can be resolved by using a budget gimmick a favorite of washington politicians in fact washington has a very rich history of using fake math to make it look like congress actually did their job so democrats think the super committee should count the money of the u.s. will not be spending on the wars in iraq and afghanistan as savings south carolina congressman james clyburn said over the weekend we believe and the cvo believes that there is around nine hundred and seventeen billion to be saved over the next
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ten years for the overseas contingency account and we ought to count that i mean really i'm calling of b.s. on calling that savings how can money if the u.s. never actually planned to spend be considered savings the u.s. is pulling troops out of iraq by the end of the year president obama is planning to bring troops home from afghanistan over the next couple of years as was always plant so how is that by any means considered savings this is just typical of lawmakers here in washington instead of solving the problem they use a gimmick to kick the can down the road and let somebody else solve yeshu i think you'll remember the president obama did this exact same thing use the exact same trillion dollars in september when he released his deficit plan harry reid also did the same thing back in july and republican congressman paul ryan's budget in april also included those exact same war savings so it's truly amazing on some days to me that this country actually functions we have wimps in congress that simply use lies and tricks to break that that they can lead and make any decisions that are going to affect us all last month the new york times poll found that congress had
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a nine percent approval rating personally i think that might be too high and so now the supercommittee wants to use a gimmick to avoid budget cuts because they can't agree on what to cut. that's why we're giving them this totally but that it super committee tonight's tool time award. ok guys it's time for happy hour and joining me tonight is our team producer jenny churchill and tanya sama native reporter and blogger for think progress dot org hello ladies thank you for joining me happy monday. first of all bill o'reilly has a new book that's come out it's about how america changed after the assassination of abraham lincoln and here i'll let him pivot and sell for you. bill i have to say this book surprised me it's a lot of different from your other books it's
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a terrific read thank you and you're really going back your roots as a history teacher i am i taught history for a couple of years in a rough neighborhood in miami florida and you know i was always fascinated by you very heavily that i think but for in a way used the gold standard. all right so bill o'reilly used to be a history teacher but it turns out unfortunately this little book of his contains a lot of factual errors and misrepresentations and so basically what's happened is that the four theaters said that we're not going to settle it because it's actually inaccurate and he actually responded right before the show which is pretty good he told politico the attack on his book is a concerted effort by people who don't like me to diminish the book he said we will understand our enemies are full of rage at our success what are you saying. i mean you know kind of gives you the clue right when you're reading and around chapter three it says colonel mustard picked up the candle stick and after lincoln kind of
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like what are the facts he's really missing here. ok to be fair there are a few a few things there there's really only four errors that have been identified which actually isn't that much for a book i mean if you've ever read a first edition book there's they're always riddled with at least grammatical errors which he claims two of the four are. and then on top of that you know i read what he learned the link and theater yeah he had a couple of dates wrong you have the date wrong with the league of theater burned down have that run and then he had the oval office thing wrong because you know he was doing this yet it was every other i'm blanking on it right now the other thing is i love that this is such an outrage it's not being sold for the editor but it is being sold it for theater because it's being sold on the first floor of the ford theater just not in the basement for the a gift shop which apparently is run by someone else. i don't know if you saw in mind it's being played in the doing well but for some reason they just get a little bit of. well joy of bill o'reilly's smug face wrote
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a history book that has factual or historical errors and it will preclude you're going to write. to me and i really want to get that. high standard you know they have a bubble had and a coloring book that apparently are more accurate than his books so you know. all right let's move out of this next one so a package is going on in hawaii and they have this little tradition and usually all the leaders we have a couple pictures will dress in you know a national outfit and so obama had jokes and i think you can see there's one from sydney australia there's the vietnam and it's always a great picture moment more vietnam what else do we have we have shanghai so everybody was looking forward to this year obama had said before when they first announced it would be in hawaii and they're going to hawaii and t. shirts and they just when he was next day he basically said i told them if they wanted to they could wear but we're not doing that picture anymore that's no fun.
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well i always thought hawaiian shirts were more representative florida than it was of hawaii so i thought maybe his decision and if that was right i mean with retirement costume give me something i was actually really shocked that this morning when i turned on fox and friends that i didn't see you know obama's war on costumes the war on aloha i mean i just i was really disappointed they really dropped the ball there because he's clearly waging a jihad against the war on a lie and like that when i actually heard that they did take a picture in kenya but they refused to release the negative. long form. i'm just a little disappointed you know i thought it was a little more fun that i expected a little more out of obama. so we've spent a good part of the beginning of the show basically ragging on the g.o.p. presidential contenders and how much they suck and how silly and ridiculous and scary they sound when it comes to foreign policy and herman cain i think probably by far it takes the cake when it comes to the guy that clearly just doesn't know anything and so we saw everyone saw. they could stand close a million times here's
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a new one where he was being questioned about libya take a look. president obama. supported. the uprising correct. i do not agree with the way he. no that's a different one. you are going to go back see. or maybe when you flashcards all mixed up that is my absolute favorite you know soundbite ever because it is literally that moment when you're in you're taking a test in high school and you have no idea what the answer is and you go up to your teacher and you're like i'm going to have
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a question like three different times in different tones and see if i get anywhere here like he's just waiting for them to give him the answer they are at least a little ahead but i know that he's like what he did their own way that was different when i was a different it's like come on i know i just daughters you really want to be the president is libya it's not that hard you guys these are clearly gotcha questions like what is your position where is would be what's today's date these are all incredibly difficult i mean herman cain o'barr but among well i think what this proved to me actually off the bat was that he clearly doesn't watch the show because you know yes he did he would definitely know about libya right herman cain would be much better informed on foreign policy if you watch the show good point. ok lastly. chelsea clinton is now going to be joining and be theater report on making a difference to put. chelsea clinton is trending on news that the former first daughter has been hired by n.b.c.
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as a correspondent for the nightly news with brian williams clinton will contribute to the making of different series drawing on her background in nonprofit work to tell stories about people and institutions that are helping others. all right so obviously a lot of people are annoyed today because you just will if you're the former president's daughter the why can't you know you just call up a network executive and be like you know going on t.v. and calling myself a journalist today is not cool with you i mean maybe your fallback was t m z d c you could have been an op well it's one thing i feel like we have another when they're treating you like your reporter because megan mccain goes on but she's she's a pundit and she's our holy or even now just hired her as kind of our reporter recently i'm getting ok he was right all the famous dot i'm saying what he did i don't know this issue i have with this so we're at a time where people are so frustrated and feel like government and corporations don't understand them so what do we do you know we hire someone that has absolutely no clue how to be a normal person you have not been
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a normal person any during your entire life chelsea clinton and mellower all these great honors you know but i mean it's just ridiculous it's absolutely ridiculous shewed to be the president's daughter if she chose to never speak to press ever and to be totally unrelated bowl to every person in america she was did work for hedge fund and now she's going to be a reporter and if she becomes a politician i mean she really rounds out a terrified of what a day where are you going to go to wrap it up sorry of fortunately thanks for joining me tonight out there for tonight's show thanks for tuning in make sure they come back tomorrow wrap or just three x. is getting back on the program a singer says he saw about occupy wall street and meantime follow us on twitter facebook you tube dot com slash the want to show and coming up next is the news. twenty years ago the largest country in the world to serve two days isn't just.
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a peaceful solution to the situation in the country i'll have more not in a few moments time. as an elected bankers and economists take the reins in greece and italy explores how the euro zone descended into a hole where troubleshooters have to dig them out plus. i. observe american corporate protesters they won't be defeated by arrests and rates as open demonstrators march back today at least try to take down their tents. we're watching r t broadcasting live from moscow welcome to the program russia has lambasted arab league's decision to expel syria and his accuser.
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