tv [untitled] November 15, 2011 6:00pm-6:30pm EST
6:00 pm
on. ok with a lot of show where you get the real headlines with none of the mercy for me live in washington d.c. now tonight we're going to take a look at last night's surprise raid on occupy wall street and today's court decision that the protesters cannot stay in zuccotti park so as a sad day for free speech that rapper to siri x. is giving back on the program to form his song occupy we are the ninety nine he's going to tell us why the university of connecticut is trying to bar him from performing it then secretary of defense leon panetta and john mccain sparred on capitol hill today over u.s. troops leaving iraq at the end of two thousand and eleven so how does that play
6:01 pm
into the expanding u.s. presence in the rest of the region robert farley is going to join us for that or not all that i am working tonight could get us a happy hour but first let's take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss. so last night completely unannounced new york mayor michael bloomberg sent in the police to clear out the protesters out of the car the park and this time the mainstream media decided not to ignore it what was happening and they actually gave it a little bit of coverage this morning so by wall street protesters were thrown for a loop at one morning when police called for surprise so we could totally cleared out so called the park so they're out of fish or headquarters maybe shut down for now but that is not stopping hundreds of occupy wall street protesters there were. we were caught in the middle of some of them here on between protesters and between police officer michael bloomberg saying the first amendment does not give anyone
6:02 pm
the right to take over a part of a can't work taking place there one hundred arrests overnight according to the new york city police department the new york judge issued a restraining order that would seem to benefit the protesters a court issued an order prohibiting the city from enforcing laws that were put into place after they started off the park not only the police and also the private companies they don't do body parts and i'm a big to them it also fifty they don't buy. by the rules that have just been posted here think there's a ten o'clock curfew they can't they can't bring ten. now a recent court decision to change a little bit of those details we're going to get into that in our next interview but let me first fill everybody in on something that happened last night that the mainstream media didn't bother to cover are you wondering why there isn't really a whole outpouring of video of the actual raid going down not only because it was a surprise it's also because there was an attempted media blackout reporters from news organizations big and small all flocked out of the park once were broke and
6:03 pm
the police were going to be clearing out and there they found police who were hostile who bar them from entering the area and even in a few cases got violent the new york post reporter was allegedly put in a chokehold by the police and n.p.r. reporter a new york times reporter and a city council member were all arrested airspace in lower manhattan was closed to c.b.s. and n.b.c. news choppers by the n.y.p.d. and and b c reporters press pass was confiscated and a large group of reporters and protesters were hit with pepper spray so it was very clear the police and mayor bloomberg did not want the press or the rest of america to see what was happening here although according to the fiction notice it was only supposed to be a clean up so what exactly did they have to hide you know that's called is censorship it's a violation of the first amendment it's unconstitutional and this is a very chilling case it should make everybody in the country concerned it's not about whether or not you support occupy wall street the ninety nine percent movement it's about fundamental values and rights that despotic billionaires like
6:04 pm
bloomberg are trying to crush but of course bloomberg didn't see it that way at a press conference today he claimed that journalists were barred from covering the raid to quote protect members of the press and to prevent a situation from getting worse well guess what mr mayor it's not your job to protect members of the press from covering a peaceful movement is higher job or you're right to prevent them from doing their jobs taking their own risks and bringing people to truth and telling the full story why do you think the journalists risk their lives. they're trying to war zones because they believe that stories need to be told and so you think you would think that the mainstream media would also be bothered by what went down last night do you think that they would be furious about the city's actions on the chilling of the first amendment but unfortunately if you thought that it was the wrong they gave no coverage that or they gave coverage of the back of the raid happened but then they didn't even mention the fact the journalists are being barred from covering it if our country's own press isn't completely horrified outraged about the fact that this is going on but who is going to be it really just makes me sick
6:05 pm
to my stomach and it's not just the mainstream television networks that are doing it how about the new york daily news just this morning they printed a headline after the raid raid that read bravo to where bloomberg occupy wall street eviction and then after news came out that one of their very own reporters was arrested then they tweeted the n.y.p.d. behavior was alarming and an attorney had been contacted so now say bravo anymore are you anyway i think you guys get the point here this was a disgusting example of the power elites trying to silence the press and the mainstream media just decided to miss it. all this morning after police had cleared the car he parked on his orders and despite a critique of new york congressman burris and city council members where michael bloomberg defended his stance. no right is absolute and with every right comes responsibility the first amendment gives every new yorker the right to speak out
6:06 pm
but it does not give anyone the right to sleep in a park or otherwise take it over to the exclusion of others nor disagreement anyone in our society to live outside the law. now just about an hour ago you were of judge michael starman ruled that no the protesters do not have the right to stay in the park with tents or was sleeping blacks writing his decision the court is mindful of the movement's first amendment rights of freedom of speech and peaceable assembly however even protected speech is not equally permissible in all places and at all times so it's a lose for occupy wall street today but isn't also a loss for the first amendment joining me to discuss it is christopher freen friend excuse me president of the friendly fire zone dot com christopher thanks so much for joining us tonight and i'm curious you know we just found out about this writer for the show and terms of the judge's ruling what do you think that you think that free speech isn't free at all times and in all places what i get as.
6:07 pm
freedom is up salute best why are we all. are. absolutely she's there is number one the issue we are is the occupy movement all of the. legal network in the scenes we are going to her and her agenda and conditions in many places in our closet what yesterday thought of the article are a move he has no blog if we wait for the public where he says there are laws against it was the end of the vote. it's time go occupy actually move or come up with her and ask. what was on the table her original. immediate misses. you should never be just going to ship. we're going you shouldn't let them go hide your primary again if your kid likes
6:08 pm
what he will be the wife he gets the best he wants. even the radical journalists you know are not but i do love the idea we will work with each motives and what you're going to move. you're breaking up a little bit so we're having a bit of a hard time hearing you but from what i gather there tell me if you're correct you you agree that mayor bloomberg went too far when it came to censoring journalists and trying to block them from actually being able to cover the protests but you think that it's time for the occupiers to move on because they can't just sleep in a park but what about now you know we've now the judge is basically saying that they can go there they can be there peacefully you can't even lie down anymore i mean is that really what it's going to you can't even lie down in a park it just seems to me like it's politically motivated but remember the issue i believe in new york. so and again the problem with it is it probably don't. really accomplish by setting up a bit of
6:09 pm
a legal gray area in that sense because it's a privately owned public park and so a lot of people admitted that that's a very odd legal gray area because they have to allow access twenty four hours a day to people inside this park and then they can also make their own rules about what you can do in the park so there's a lot of back and forth there. well again here's a question for you all the people that are supposed to have twenty four hour public access to the well every square inch of sleep in a party occupied thoughts are who again have broken your message boards or wherever you're not accomplishing anything at all who are you taking part of gashes a nice piece of the way what was that foreclosure consume all over the place like that and it really is time to canada the war and in the locomotive works mark i but i probably should more than most people every few months i still don't know what it is you're climbing were cars i don't know joe let me let me ask you then about that why why is it that after two months you still have no idea what these people are trying to accomplish i think they've laid out at least their message pretty well
6:10 pm
and if you look at the latest poll from m a c sixty percent of americans actually say that they agree with the message and with the goals it's about fairness it's about equality it's about ninety nine percent versus one percent not having a higher echelon of people government and corporations and the banks that all work together and silence the average americans voice was so hard to understand about you. are to and pretty much anyone in any. and we have to get past the rhetoric and begin around this is what is it your kind were can't which. you know i'm the one who said they were grouchy long walks free from a cozy relationship with the. only bundle of pixels that can i question why is it that we all can carry for president has yet. to complete yes there's corruption there. are evoked groups of article. because progresses you can be but
6:11 pm
it will. put her into a lot of his efforts for just not allowed menarche is there he may believe that clavichord and she'd be in a better or all points the republicans. get market so again we have got extremes of it but weirdly it seems common. and solutions can't fall asleep you can't make a right christopher christopher and fortunately we're having some really bad technical problems there some however having a really hard time hearing you sam i have to cut it off i heard a few words and over and have to continue this at another time but i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight thank you. i now we've spoken a lot about how musicians and celebrities and putting in their two cents adding their support and bringing more attention to the occupy movement across the country just the other week we interviewed mortal technique and now today we're bringing back another political rapper that our viewers should be familiar with just not just this month he was slated to appear at the university of connecticut for
6:12 pm
a political awareness rally organized by the student government but i was told that he would only be paid and allowed to attend if he did not perform his song occupy we are the ninety nine because it contained obvious political statements said here to tell us what happened in his own words is political ravages theory x. and theory thanks so much for coming back on the show thank you for so tell me exactly that will get into the larger statements and messages of what you think occupy movement is all about the tell me what happened here at the university of connecticut but what happened is you know they booked me for a political rally and the day before actually rarely they sent me e-mails saying that they did not want me to perform specifically this on occupy we've been on you know you know just like you said it was a political wariness rally and they actually sent me another contract that basically they listed songs that they wanted me to perform that they felt. called political. you know if i performed another song outside of this contract that i would not be ok with so they said they didn't allow you to perform any of your
6:13 pm
songs that they felt were political at all or only specifically the one about the ninety nine percent or i mean you could argue that all or most all of the political i mean if i'm talking about i am sure the i'm just execution of troy davis you could argue this political you could argue that you can't really talk about race and social justice without the context of politics and then i would also argue that a song with a ninety nine isn't a political song because the arc of problem movement isn't a political movement you just stated very plainly the economic movement is about ninety nine percent of people who see in their standard of living deteriorate and the one percent gaining greater wealth. agree with me that lily doesn't tell me that they basically gave you another contract so you won't get paid as you decide to go and sing and perform it anyway knowing he would get paid the highest because i felt this was once again more freedom of speech the person who organized the
6:14 pm
event met him at occupy wall street if it wasn't for actually when we were filming the video for occupy we're not in that so if it wasn't for that movement i would have even been at the university of connecticut but no importantly it's because i felt like i'm seeing people sacrificing we say we saw them face you know police brutality we see people get arrested we see people will in the sleep on the cold and make sacrifices if there can make those sacrifices then i can make a sacrifice of one payment at some point in this movement all of us are going to have to make sacrifices in order to see the will of the night be done so how many of the different occupy encampments have you been to that's. been occupy pittsburgh you've got to check out if i do see why you're here i want to know what is it exactly so you say that you don't think it's necessary a political movement because it's an economic movement where do you think that it's all going well i think that what's happening is it's really the first thing that began to change the discourse when we were talking about the debt ceiling and we have cut. government spending now all this and we talk about income inequality so
6:15 pm
just for the fact that occupy wall street became begin to change the dynamic of what you can politics we're talking about is a major movement really i think is changing the way we interact with one another you know one of the biggest misconceptions that people have about occupy wall street is that people of color on involved but when i was a wall street us all different people of color face ages relating to one another talking problem discussing problems and really see what we're seeing is really the remaking of a society that is corrupted on the inside out and in the beginnings of something new and different and better let's talk about some of the responses that we've seen . clearly when it came to mayor bloomberg he decided to clear them out surprise them not time about even blocking some of the press we have seen a lot of violence especially over occupy oakland there's a chance juan from oakland even said that she had been coordinating or at least been discussing this with mayors of eighteen other cities and maybe this was a coordinated national response do you think that that means that they're getting
6:16 pm
scared or they're just getting impatient you know i mean how how does the occupy movement in your eyes progress from here i think they are absolutely going to get i mean why would you move on peaceful protesters you know they don't have any weapons you know to their peaceful why would you move on with such force if your if you had a right as motive mayor bloomberg why would you then go there one day in the dead of night on a monday night and they're not allowed a press to come in why if you have a righteous motive city of oakland would you rubber bullets would you use flash grenades when used tear gas and obviously. like what happened in oakland when ever you see this police terrorism happen you see the movement grow grow it is really like putting gasoline with fire because we're seeing how somebody coming together in unity for peace is causing such fear with these people that are in control and to me is really marking the end of this one percent in their rule yalla these
6:17 pm
actions especially the police brutality often does just bring more attention galvanizing the even more some people are saying that there bloomberg perhaps martyred the occupiers. to syria so before you go we're actually going to we have to perform the song occupy the ninety nine and here it is for the audience take a look. this is that a candidate for those brave protesters. stood face to face with police terrorism but occupy wall street. and occupy oakland what occupy portland that occupy. and all the occupation it's all over the earth you know i mean. we've been. told. we. believe in.
6:18 pm
the people don't let me tell you now said that the people just took the well pepper the ballot the people we celebrate accept a lot of people have that everybody gets a bad to be a cutter become. president you want to get what you care for that tebow be paid to credit so we have to leave it to we to come to get what he thinks freedom to be going against the campaign sees it that it will create for you to believe that so by the most will all three of the four years of the operating force we did not bother with the president that's what you told me but holbrooke is going to call for me for. five. weeks. we. feel we call for you to.
6:19 pm
remember but this is what the five people president obama can keep the fallible but . never give this time it is september tenth there's caius six for the people but the canvas of the life of this book the cup. you know what if you want to see their brick look like you think in the back but look for yourself to come out of the hole . you know so most people who look at the club don't notice it come up with the idea that plato told one of these people how to save. their property. but good old. silver here. are you know. i want to thank you syriac for coming on the show tonight and now it's great but there's still a lot more to time you know how the media perceived occupies
6:20 pm
a bit from the hard part as no big deal but what about demonstrators right here in the theater to get their take and then after that come after the break. in total we're. going to go we're going to bring justice or. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and here's some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.
6:21 pm
6:22 pm
appropriate to face but part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic. right so earlier in the program we discussed the impact of the scottie park convictions would have on the overall movement right now but let's get for putting in some other occupiers if they agree with these objections is a crackdown really necessary and why is our provides even able to stay without a crackdowns by the police one of our producers patrice in a sense you went to make yours and square to find out. treat the protesters like that last night was sickening to hear about and watch i thought it was crazy and i thought it was ridiculous it's just really sad to see like you know our people had all this stuff destroyed there's actually homes that are worth it so it is vile and they weren't giving any warning i think it was like
6:23 pm
a fifteen minute warning in the middle of the night and that doesn't make sense i just wanted to say and that they continue to grow grow stronger with their movement just because somebody say except some that don't mean that just mean that you're strong i know where we are here we're safe i think we are and i don't feel if there's any reason to be afraid of our situation so you don't think that you'll see a crackdown here in d.c. probably not here i think they're protecting us more than they're trying to harm us we expect to be here for the long haul regardless of the bumps along the road and i think i've been trying different tactics on us and we have never we haven't had the same relationship with the police department as new york has had from day one when it happens we're ready. we ready real ready for the police they can come in they would have they want because we people just like them a lot of it is just people that want to disrupt us and trying to get the police on a trail that doesn't exist because there is a lot of peaceful protesting here i live in the square i think it's
6:24 pm
a new city i think it's a new civil rights movement for the next century i'm sitting in front of the bus and no way to drink out of any water fountain and sit anywhere in a restaurant the growth of it is sometimes. you know messy so it's that's what this is this is what the movement is it's a beautiful part of it there are interests fighting against us and against democracy in this country and that is very motivating one of the awesome things about all the places i have been raided and shut down is that people have come back people are going to start coming together even more you know it's just a wake up call that's what it is a wake up call. now this thursday marks the two month anniversary since the occupy movement began its a comedy part and since then we've seen the movement explode cancer sprung up from small us towns to big cities across the globe and or a t r t correspondent christine going to take a look back at how this movement has evolved. you could say it started with
6:25 pm
a whisper a call by canadian activist group and busters that spread on facebook i think the states i feel this very spot wall street is the site of the crime but before long that whispered turned into a roar. the collective anger of wall street corruption a growing income inequality in america and at a system in which government policy is often dictated by corporate greed before long the crowds brought police. was. and police brought pepper spray. was chelsea earlier you see on the ground behind the next appeared on our t.v. and days later you weren't hurting anyone you weren't watching traffic her story brought on more protesters a few days later seven hundred of them were arrested on the brooklyn bridge sad sad
6:26 pm
sad instead of scaring people away scenes like this was outraged the masses and before long occupy movements multiplied from los angeles. to chicago. to boston. and just about everywhere in between forcing the mainstream media to start covering the protests they have largely ignored often missing the point what a protest that nobody seems to know the corporate media viewed as an accomplice here's what happened when fox news host for all the rivera trying to film a segment at occupy wall street was was couldn't speak louder than chants of fox news lies and how to lead. was the mood grew darker as authorities to. and to clear the tent city its zuccotti park the last minute they
6:27 pm
were allowed to remain in the park themselves. by times square was next to nothing but scenes like this is not where. the government in. iraq war veteran shamar thomas fighting what had become in his eyes widespread police brutality he appeared on our show a few days later they're saying if you want to fight go to iraq go to afghanistan what do you mean by this you know to hurt the citizens you swear to protect you know is this kind of you know a contradiction to the oath they should take and then there was occupy oakland here you see another veteran scott olsen standing peacefully. within moments he was hit in the head with a tear gas canister structure his school and left testicle condition what a lot of what she shot a stunt like now shining bright on the role of police which energized veterans
6:28 pm
former sergeant posted this photo online saying you did this to my brother he also came on our show i mean up personally no. but i know it's story all the while the protests spread much to the dismay of authorities who over the weekend if they did encampments once again in oakland. and you could. see lou it's a few and new york's zuccotti park the heart of the movement also clear for the first time since the movement began now many worry what's next for occupy d.c. there any sense of panic or anything once that happens i wouldn't say panic as much as just like it now it's time so one of the first things they did here is to clear this part of the park protesters tell me they've moved their tents closer to one another they say they've condensed their efforts because they want to stay focused . they want to stay organized i say there's
6:29 pm
a chance that some of the protesters from the other occupations around the country could wind up here on k. street because this is one of the last places a very few clashes with police in washington christine for our team. all still to come tonight when we hear from our viewers and show intel and of war hawks got to grill defense secretary leon panetta today on the iraq withdrawal so to speak with robert farley about the alphabet affair and its congressional grilling his return. into that only. if you don't bring justice and accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism.
35 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on