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the police corruption is. what. nobody seems to know. that never appropriate to face quite hard the argument that they're being overly dramatic. our guide sign for showing talent and i program last time we discussed how the g.o.p. presidential candidates felt about one of the most pressing issues facing our country the economy you know with the media question the hopefuls about the last debate but

a lot of comic questions when you ask the candidates what's going to produce for treason essentially to find out what you have to say. and last week's republican debate which was supposed to focus on the economy because a republican presidential candidate seemed to pros only two ideas total reduce regulations and reduce taxes but many of us watching could not quite understand how those are adoptions are supposed to create jobs and not just jobs but the millions of jobs we need to turn around our economy once and for all so we wanted to know what questions on the economy would you like to ask the candidates joni said why should we lower taxes and then trust job creators to actually create jobs they believe in tax breaks for corporations and the rich have been shown not to create jobs so why do they believe lower tax rates will create jobs now look all the way back to the late fifty's and early sixty's when the highest tax rates were at not over ninety percent and as if higher taxes on the wealthy are bad then why was the

economy so good when taxes were added historic high now most of you who responded really hard some serious questions about lowering taxes on the wealth that including how much you would add to the already bold looming deficit you would have to wonder how many new jobs it will take to make up for all the lost tax revenue with republicans lower tax rates for the wealthy and has heard you sing regulations what regulations are we talking about and how specifically will less regulations create new jobs and the bottom line voters need to better understand how these two are adoptions will give us back the jobs we lost but you really. seem to be asking is that someone on the republican side should take the time and show us the map. as always thanks for your responses and here's our next question for you at home and with the show reported to you the judge ruled in favor of mayor michael bloomberg a vision of protesters from zuccotti park deciding that the city has the right to keep occupy wall street protesters impatient tense so is the eviction of the protesters in the name of public safety

a reasonable limit to the first amendment let us know what you think you can respond on facebook twitter and he too and who knows a response just might mean that. just last week the obama administration delayed any further consideration on the keystone x.l. pipeline and the face of growing public opposition to the project not only have thousands repeatedly protested and part of the white house but the state of nebraska has also worked hard to stop the pipeline due to concerns of the pipeline crossing over some of the very sensitive sand hills in the state and today the baskins are celebrate because trans canada has agreed to reroute the pipeline despite the fact that it would add another billion dollars to the already seven billion dollar project now the company has agreed to a minor route change and rather than crossing the state sand hills it could potentially cross other environmentally sensitive areas like streams and other waterways so why is trans canada finally decided to think about the impact the keystone pipeline would cause and why are they suddenly on board with these recruits were originally too expensive to do well maybe the president of trans

canada can clue us in an interview president alex said as i understand the concern of the state department and listening in on their press conference last week they indicated the reason for the delay was the concern that with was excuse me it was the concern that was raised by nebraskans with respect to the route and particularly the sandhills we have now reached an agreement with an aggressive legislature and i would hope that this would give the state department reason to consider shortening that time frame so the truth comes out prince can be in actually concerned about the well being of those who would live near the pipeline they want to make sure the project actually happens. president the company also noted that the press brassicas department of environmental quality. complete a review of the alternate route in just six months more initiative to get the ball rolling on this project but let's also talk about the politics behind all of this as we told you last week i blind as a very touchy issue for president obama he stuck in between his supporters who see the prospect as a job creator like labor unions and then of course environmental activists who

warned of a huge carbon footprint from the pipeline so obama was really just going to delay the issue until after the next election that is until transplant of the agreed to actually route the pipeline so now that much of the nebraska opposition is neutralized that could chip away at some of the opposition to the project a lot of people think of this still plays well for obama come election time as bill became explains the president's promise to keep greenhouse gas emissions under consideration of pieces the environmental crowd who is at their breaking point with him and despite the fact that transplant is making concessions to make the pipeline happen soon the state department says that a new review of the ruby required we might not see those results until two thousand and thirteen so in the meantime president obama can campaign on being green friendly and still win the support of both sides of the issue come next november like strategy mr president we'll see if it actually works for you. now republicans have been reeling ever since president obama announced that all u.s. troops would be leaving iraq at the end of this here and a deal that could have been stay was not reach so today they got

a fair chance to grill militarily military leaders and new secretary of defense leon panetta but exactly what happened despite tremendous reminders of the administration had no other choice and this is about what the iraqis want and not what america wants senator john mccain went on full attack saying i continue to believe that this decision represents a failure of leadership both iraqi and american and it was a sound case of political expediency supplanting military necessity both in baghdad and in washington and it will have serious negative consequences for the stability of iraq and the national security interests of the united states and he followed up by saying that it's hard to see the withdrawal of u.s. forces from iraq as anything but a win for iran so is this just a bitter old politician getting his anger out or woman hanes cries about iran needs more military action by the u.s. joining me to discuss it is robert farley sr professor at the university of kentucky and blogger lawyers guns and money robert thanks so much for joining us

tonight i want to start with let me kane is trying to argue here that clearly u.s. troops leaving iraq is a win for iran how do you think that he does logic come from if you think about it we're still going to have thousands of state department contractors we're expanding our reach in the persian gulf sending more troops to kuwait what it is and we already have iran surrounded right. well there's a logic to his argument if we don't have a certain image say three thousand or five thousand or ten thousand and the actual numbers never really all that then iranian militias and supporters of the iranian government within the iraqi government are going to attempt to do if not outright seize power in iraq and do influence in favor of it. was never really specified in its argument how exactly having three thousand or five thousand or ten thousand american troops there actually prevents any of that from happening and a lot of people maybe i can already do that iran does have substantial amount of influence on the iraqi government which it certainly does but even with the with

all troops it's not as if it's not a several dozen of enemies in iraq there are many people in iraq who resent iranian influence and will continue to orient themselves away from iran and so it's hard to understand how the senator gets from a to b. and how the other critics of the field on this question and the iraqi administration to get from a to b. in terms of thinking that this is a major win for iraq if there was a win for iran it was in two thousand and three when we deposed saddam. what about the fact that secretary defense leon panetta kept having to remind the john mccain on the other lawmakers up there on capitol hill today that this is about what america wants but it's about what iraq wants at the end of the day. well i was going to guess it didn't you just played from the senate it was it was almost incoherent it was suggested to the walkies really not the faintest idea about about what's best for the iraqis and he sort of outright came out and said the iraqis are

doing this generally out of political expediency which when you think about it kind of means you are doing it because the iraqis want the americans out this is not a surprising outcome and it's fascinating that the senator is so certain that he has a better idea. how to secure iraq the state of what iraqis want and what iraqis need then the iraqis to. together it's intended as particular the obama administration obama called probably could have pushed harder than he did to keep forces there he probably saw that there was going to be some political advantage in the united states for withdrawing troops for the election and therefore didn't push as far as it could and so now the troops are coming home well i was one of his campaign promises that seemed like he wasn't going to fulfill and then when it didn't actually work out the way one of the two now he's acting like he fulfilled his campaign promise but let's go back to you know the way that the rhetoric has really

heated up over iran this is just one example today but recently have the i.a.e.a. report came out about iran's nuclear program and you wrote a piece about how it's really it's not the end of the world if iran does acquire a nuclear weapon can you elaborate on that a little for us. well i mean my my my thinking all this all along has been generated by comparing it won't be in nuclear power only nuclear weapons were what we've seen before and almost every time going to new country has developed nuclear weapons we have had outlandish rhetoric about what that country is going to do with its weapons of missile it's all about one hundred sixty s. when everyone insisted that mao was a madman and that if he were allowed to have nuclear weapons he would start a war with the united states but even put statements were now said we're going to war against the united states even without nuclear weapons because we have so many so many more people and it turned out that chinese nukes were inconvenient for the united states but they didn't really you didn't really change the world and world more recently did we see the north koreans that you know it's not great but the

north koreans have nuclear weapons but it's not as if north korea has been able to dominate its region and i don't see her going to proliferation and so now from my point of view we're seeing almost exactly the same kind of rhetoric iran talking about how dangerous the wrong is dangerous iranian rhetoric is and so forth and so forth and it's hard for me to see how a country as weak and as economically vulnerable as it is wrong actually use nuclear weapons to dominate its region and so from what you're saying if we look back at examples throughout history there isn't necessarily proof that if you acquire a nuclear weapon it means you can do whatever you want and have this you know unlimited influence over your neighbors here but there are a lot of moves you know we've heard reports today that the u.s. is going to start expanding its wings out there you know more troops going to kuwait perhaps another arms sale of the u.a.e. but right now president obama is going to australia where he recently announced a permanent u.s. base there and so how do you see that playing into this is this focus shifting over

more to east asia rather than the middle east or just a continuous expansion to be everywhere all at once. well you know i think obama's being responsive to the pentagon on this issue in the pentagon is tired of the middle east i don't is tired of devoting resources to the middle east at start of rocket start against. the navy in particular but also the air force want to go into other things that i think but the real next big deal can be china i don't think probably right and i think that obama is being responsible and so that's why we're seeing these new mission agreements with australia which is why we're seeing some cases shifting around in northeast asia and warm and so forth that we're seeing a reorientation u.s. military interest and u.s. military focus towards the asia pacific region and i think that's why for example we took a back seat on libya but this is now you know focused on the united states it's redistributed you can separate it from direction somehow i feel like you know the troops in the families of the troops that are still fighting in iraq and

afghanistan i find it disconcerting if not completely disturbing to hear that the pentagon simply is just tired of them and why he wants to move on to another area of the do you think about somehow plays into that his rhetoric on one hand he was the reasonable line of this rock hearing today but at the same time he has been playing up these doomsday mechanisms if more defense cuts were to happen if the trigger effect sets in and he said it would lower our troop numbers down to you know levels that were below what we had in one thousand nine hundred forty but do we really need that many troops anymore if you know if they're going to start focusing more on drone strikes on special operations smaller operations. well from my point of view we don't need that many trips anymore we don't need a defense budget which is as large as it is we don't need to be spending more than four percent of our g.d.p. on defense we can certainly come back and run. but it is very interesting because he seems to be doing a lot of pressure. it's actually someone who takes a bureaucratic position and then have to essentially change everything that he's argued before about about defense budgeting in this case he has to appeal to right

now we have to add back as an advocate for the defense department which means argument that we need a bigger army and we need a bigger air force and we need a bigger navy and it's a little bit disconcerting that he has responded to that pressure in such an ineffective way that he's responded to it by essentially just channeling it through to congress and presenting any sort of constructive proposals we're going to try to you know i definitely agree that it's not something that having lived with robert thanks so much for joining us tonight thank you. now coming up next. he would like to have his cabinet if he was elected for his liking for that very special man is an artful title at happy hour west after water pouring water boarding three ninety's and you'll never guess what one children's hosting service costs.

inside only or. do. i have a right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then something else hears you some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know. welcome to the big picture.

mr. peters to believe the rocking of. what a fantastic nobody seems to know. but never a pepper sprayed my face but part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic.

are you guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and so night goes to the godfather of pizza herman cain was not really been having the best few weeks not only is he facing several allegations of sexual harassment but he's also slipping in the polls after some poor debate performances on top of that malarkey journal sentinel released a few clips from an interview with the cain which we played last night in our happy hour showing just how much he really knows about foreign policy which seems to be absolutely nothing and so i think that we owe it to our audience to placate response when asked about president obama's course of action in libya just one more time. president obama supported the uprising

correct. i do not agree with the way he thought. that's a different one. you are going to go back to see. just two good well today the lobby journals then fidel releases a nother clip from that same interview with cain asking him who hits like to be part of his presidential going to straighten and isn't this response kind of blew me away. i'm going to talk for a few minutes about some of the people that you admired that we might she came with an instruction to assure. you that because of your turnabout offer that the secretary of state. perfectly happy doing what he's doing. you're right he wanted henry kissinger to be his secretary of state but on kissinger turned him down maybe that's because he can't travel much because he's wanted for war crimes

all over the world just a thought but let me back up and take a minute to explain why would be scary as hell to have every kissinger back in the white house or anybody who isn't familiar with him he was a national security advisor under nixon secretary of state under president ford and during vietnam under his direction kissinger propped up an unpopular war and dropped more bombs that were dropped during all of world war two he is responsible for the deaths of millions of civilians and he's also responsible for dropping agent orange a powerful chemical the polian on the enemies civilians as well something it's considered a war crime under the geneva convention convention so now that he's retired kissinger is still a wanted man in europe and he's confronted about his actions during the vietnam war eighteen year old merely respond to the nonchalance no one can say that he served in ministration he did not make mistakes right and killing millions of civilians and brutally disfiguring others are just little mistakes so obviously not enough to make herman cain not want to put his top foreign policy role in his ministrations who cares of eighty eight years old and

a war criminal now to be fair he's probably the only name in foreign policy that cain has ever heard of so we're asking henry kissinger to be secretary of state herman cain is tonight still time with. our guys time for happy hour and joining me this evening is lauren lyster host of the capital account on r.t. and mike riggs associate editor at reason magazine and reason dot com it was frightening for us i'm going to be ok so we heard a lot about torture and waterboarding and how awesome a lot of the republican candidates thought it was the last debate with the exclusionary exception of jon huntsman around paul and now senator allen west has decided to join in the chorus but here's a really good explanation for why we should waterboard. furthermore in the movie g.i. jane demi moore was water boarded and we do use that in military training in survival

escape resistance and of asian training and she ended up with a much younger husband in real life so that's right it's really. totally related to all the related business but this is how we try to sell torture to the american people if they can remember that one time a g.i. jane i mean more can handle it and anybody can what's the big deal i sort of the fox like maxim writes like roan clancy you want to talk about the penn state scandal. torturing but he believes having somebody space in the sand and firing a gun right above their head like terrify them i don't know i mean he got in trouble for that right now sure is a great authority on the morality of torture you know that we got was just. let's move on. but gimmicks you know we've heard a lot about the sneaky ways the super committee is actually trying to get out of having to do with they're supposed to be doing as a super committee which is agreeing upon one point two trillion dollars in cuts whether it comes from actual cuts or revenues and yesterday we were telling you

about how they wanted to use word savings turns out that they might be changing. when washington they're looking at a paltry little one point two trillion in shavings i want to call it savings and what what do we know if we believe they're going to come up with a deal because now they're saying it's not so much going to be a success as it's going to be a partial failure which they can call a success. rate is repeat everything i do. with the corroborated your claim dory today is that suddenly now they finally got it after a little bit of public anger that they can't discount a trillion and war savings that was supposed to be spent in the first place because we're not supposed to be an endless war as something that they really came up with . well here's the thing i feel like after reading this and saying all this accounting gimmicks are the new bailouts they're the new tactics being used to paper over a house of cards it's going to collapse and it's what people are using now you see with the budget committee you see it with wall street banks ok that's how they got

their earnings this last earnings season they all use you think counting and i forget these gains these are new bailouts yeah i think so except their belts for like the u.s. government sources they don't really count also i mean it's you know nobody has any interest whatsoever in trimming military spending and i find a really ridiculous idea that just as we're not going spending in iraq and afghanistan are not responding at all i mean like we clearly have an interest in sort of possibly invading mexico and you know the drug war i mean this is iran yeah bombing of bomb bomb bomb iran right you know we have a lot of stuff left to do without money so i would actually i love the idea of like us not spinning around on war elsewhere i think the idea of a spending here the idea of spending any money at all but like i just don't think it's i don't think it's true that we're not going to just move that money to some other military operation sort of like morally we grew into saving that isn't even finding it's literally if this was based on what. on that's what it is c.b.l. estimate that they just plugged in numbers it's not based on anything nobody is bound to this and we've also seen obama try to use it. on to you

basically so i want to say let's move on to something far less mature. and important for the country. that's really affecting my mother in colorado take a look. at the store called kids in kenya they have like a little cut only a little animal backpack and if you're french she saw underwear and we actually hani and i was mortified my first initial response was am i really mean that you know they are your back catalog so full video is what french took as proof but it looked like on there until she opened it up and so you got it absolutely cops were. actually had the same demonstration but it was the four at a nightclub recently i don't know it was like a lot better there than it was on that but yeah we all know you this is like your village was fun and i tell you i've been single for twenty years was i was you know you know right you know he has he's got some stairs or just crossed somebody so.

that's what teachers they work i say i'm going to anybody who wears practice i don't really see the point of crocs as people and they have on their shelves i don't say you are going to do that they are like oh my god if you say you i they're just not sure exactly where you take them on why you know him and he said there's where with a little bit of my point of view. let's go right away to work stuff about because. my story. is that for some reason there is a people getting high on bath salts and doing weird stuff epidemic first there's a story of the guy that was found standing over a goat with a knife wearing women's lingerie now. this time i was on bath salts and he broke into a family's home put christmas decorations and then tossed on the couch to watch television and the eleven year old boy found them. really like who's going to break any dinner in their house there's only been served this country has totally given up on celebrating thanksgiving like. a right to be in a holding

a cornucopia in their house you know or like tracing his hand and then painting it and putting up on the wall but no we have told you given up on thanksgiving we've totally given up on our heritage and we go straight to christmas and we in november and this is outrageous i hope they lock him up for life if this is a new drug to this entirely conducive to weird stories which will be really great for you in a benefit to happier because these are like the most bizarre drug story we've heard in a long time so i mean i think it's horrible you know people are getting so. it's. bad it's not what i was going to write this andrea and so you know i think it's i don't know how old really are because people can't even afford math which is like the cheapest drug or instead snorting bath salts or you can buy. you know if you get a idea i mean right now i mean there are hundreds if you can remember it stops and you don't have to go to the bathroom to do it and i think that's why more people are using it how do you know if i don't just stop at the truck stops because they think i drive on the interstate or i'd like to present. things. every night so thanks for tuning in to make sure you back tomorrow and he ran down for

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