after an intense twenty four hours with police what does tonight hold for the occupy wall street protesters after a judge ruled no camping overnight could there be even more fully clashes and where do things go from here we have an update from the big apple. these very spot wall street is the site of the crime and from a small rally in new york to an all out movement coast to coast the voices of the occupy wall street protesters are only growing louder we'll take a look back at how this movement has grown over the past two months. in the

proximately to learn something new and i know you have a. week we freaking out about this i frightened of being a victim and occupy wall street protesters aren't the only ones being affected and debt ridden students are now joining because putting down their school bags for picket signs using their street smarts to try to change the system. and watching from a distance what does the world think of the occupy wall street movement and how these protestors are being treated here in the u.s. . it's tuesday november fifteenth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching our team. the occupy wall street movement dealt a major broke blow tonight in new york a judge has rolled protesters can't return says a cottage park but they can no longer cal overnight protesters here in d.c.

are reacting to the news. our team correspondent christine this video on her way home this was the scene just a little. from r.r.c. studio not long ago. take a look at this video out of new york this is what it's looking like at the cottage are you see police now occupying the area protesters out of all the park home for the last two months or now on the outside looking in the stars these marina porter and i had just a short time ago maria is in new york and has been following this story she brought me the very latest information coming out of zuccotti park. well at this point the protesters have been allowed back into the park they are back on to their camp grounds but it is no longer a campground as you mentioned supreme court our state supreme court judge here in new york decided that. occupy wall street protesters can no longer pitch tents

inside because park and they are not allowed to use generators to keep warm nonetheless there was a huge crowd that was standing around the perimeter all day long of sukiyaki park and then finally elite this evening once it got dark the police that were manning the barricades that kept the zuccotti park essentially empty except for the police inside of it the police finally open the barricades let the protesters back in it was a large crowd about a thousand people they were happy to be back clearly they were disappointed with the judge's ruling because the optimus that i spoke with feel that the. city is doing this on purpose to discredit and try to compromise the occupy wall street movement particularly because it's grown so large so wide so loud in just eight weeks but despite the the raid that took place at one am tuesday morning that

led to two hundred protesters being arrested and dozens of injuries i did speak with one occupy wall street after this saying that the movement will not be deterred if anything they are more inspired to get their message out take a listen secondly our veterans is that your idea the idea that we are the ninety nine percent of americans that we need to reduce the. reduce the corporations. are being spread around the country. now is the credit markets but essentially been the spiritual home of the occupy movement but new york city mayor michael bloomberg had argued that the area over the top weeks had this had become a public safety hazard it had been turned into an unhealthy and unsafe environment due to all the tarps that were up the tents that were all sleeping bags that were

in there the large amount of people there as there were some incidences or reports of sexual assaults being carried out there so there was a concern for city officials but nonetheless occupy activists do believe that ultimately new york city officials are trying to compromise this movement not just in new york but all nationwide because we have seen this sudden evacuation take place and opened and take place and certainly so a lot of people believe that the nationwide type of accusation and we're going to have you mentioned the car park really is the birthplace of the occupy wall street movement and now that they're no longer able to occupy that area i mean what is the book comes next is there a target location where they may instead take their take their protests. well technically they are allowed to to be in the park they are they could stay there twenty four hours

a day for these going to get very cold very sued in new york city and it is going to be very difficult for hundreds of people to see to sleep on concrete without anything to keep warm what their plans are in terms of relocation that have not been made clear yet they're quite limited because if they go to a public park they're going to have to speak near to the mayor michael bloomberg and the new york city police department if they go to a private car like to coffee ultimately it could end in the same way because the property owners are one way or another are going to get annoyed with tarps and tents being put up on their property but i can tell you in the near future specifically thursday when occupy wall street marks its two month anniversary activists say that they are playing a day worth of events one that what they hope will gather momentum gather large crowds just at city put the biggest of that there are most ambitious one i've been told is their attempt to shut down the new york stock exchange with the state it

will attempt to do thursday morning maria thank you for keeping us updated on this movement that was are the correspondent going to pour in iowa with the latest. now third day in march two month anniversary since but movement sparked since then it's mean it's ups and downs it's turned peaceful the violent cans have sprung up from small us town so big that it gets across the globe are to correspondent christine for example takes a look back at the evolving movement. you could say it started with a whisper called my canadian activist group and busters that spread on facebook i think the state whose very spot was free is the site of the meanest crime but before long that whisper turned into a roar that was. a collective anger at wall street corruption the growing income inequality in america and at

a system in which government policy is often dictated by corporate greed before long the crowds brought police. cars. and police brought pepper spray. was chelsea elliott roosting on the ground behind the nets appeared on our t.v. and days later you weren't hurting anyone you weren't blocking traffic her story brought on more protesters and a few days later seven hundred of them were arrested on the brooklyn bridge. instead of scaring people away scenes like this was outreach to the masses and before long occupy movements multiplied from los angeles. to chicago. to boston. and just about everywhere in between forcing the mainstream media to start covering

the protests they had largely ignored were often missing the point where the protests that nobody seems to know the corporate media viewed as an accomplice here's what happened when fox news host geraldo rivera tried to film a segment at occupy wall street. couldn't speak louder than chance of fox news lies and had to leave. was the mood grew darker as authorities threaten to clear. the tent city at zuccotti park at the last minute they were allowed to remain in the park themselves. by times square was next to nothing but scenes like this is not really. going to make. iraq war veteran shamar thomas fighting what had become in his eyes widespread police brutality he appeared on our show a few days later they're saying if you want to fight go to iraq or afghanistan what

do you mean by this you know to hurt the citizens that you swear to protect you know this is kind of you know a contradiction to the oath that you take and then there was occupy oakland here you see another veteran scott olsen standing peacefully. within moments he was hit in the head with a tear gas canister the structure his school and left testicle condition where apple out of touch shot a spotlight now shining bright on the role of police which energized veterans former sergeant posted this photo on line saying you did this to my brother he also came on our show i mean not personally. but i know it's story all the while the protests spread much to the dismay of authorities who over the weekend if they did encampments once again in oakland. and important. st louis

name a few and new york's zuccotti park the heart of the movement also clear for the first time since the movement began now many worry what's next for occupy d.c. there any sense of panic or anything once i have i wouldn't say panic as much as just like it now it's time so one of the first things they did here is to clear this part of the park out as there is tell me they've moved their tents closer to one another if they've condensed their efforts because they want to stay focused they want to stay. organized i think there's a chance that some of the protesters from the other occupations around the country could wind up here on k. street because this is one of the last places very few clashes with police in washington christine for the r t. l all these new developments what is it what does it all mean for the movie that they answer that ira spoke earlier spoke to occupy wall street organizer andrew harkins to start things off i asked him to tell me

what kind of reaction he's seeing on the ground from the ruins of alyson it's really difficult because somebody who is part of the direct action working group who oversaw participants and oversaw a lot of the actions that happened over the course of the last night to figure out where these lines between legal and illegal are i mean you know we saw the police continuing to protect i mean with a riot cops around the park with barricades even when this injunction had been sorrow and so we watched a lot of intense charlie throughout the night so on the ground it's it's hard to say what exactly this is really going to ultimately do given that this action felt like it was illegal in the first place is there a sense that protesters are going to comply with this order and knocking a pie the party apart anymore or do you think there's going to be a resistance. there and there's definitely. i mean we are going to face

a resistance from. the police in new york city but our interest is in liberating space and creating these opening up social spaces in which people can. things that and the things we want to see change and so we have a lot of us have determined that public space and holding public space in which people can step into is an integral for instance like that the the things that we've created you know we stumbled upon you know some people say that this police crackdown as a way to silence the movement of bring it out so that it's reaching its tenth anniversary on thursday. is that what you think it is that that this is an attempt to put an end to the occupy wall street movement. i mean. i think there are a lot of people. i think there's

a one percent of people who would really like to see us go away here and we've been seeing it across the united states where. police departments are using. largely false pretexts to their people and if they can violently is. and i think they want to now that you have been evicted from zuccotti park is there any word on that maybe where the movement well occupy in a in a new location or are what are the plans for the future now. ok there is a there are a lot of different again. some say leader leaderless movement and serial some sort of leader for loosely and so there are a lot of different groups you know a lot of different things. sort of a few groups working on a few things and we have. to spaces but we're really just concerned with securing war. and i think i mean it looks like people are most excited about

security and it's it's really hard for me to say just being one voice in this world . and that was occupy wall street organizer and her husband. and many young protesters occupying wall street are students many of them saddled by an unknown armisen out of student that sit in that has exceeded one trillion dollars in the united states that's more than the nation's credit card that meanwhile unemployment among college graduates is at an all time high that's all makes for a recipe for thousands of i'm happy educating young people other people their frustration to the streets are the correspondent marina par and i a takes a look at the massive problem of student debt in the nation. this image of twenty three year old staff great speaks to the widespread debt at the demick among american college graduates desperate to find work right now i can't even get a job cleaning toilets for minimum wage i've tried at

a local motel there's nothing i've made come down versions of my resume. begging for any sort of work walking around starbucks mcdonald's or anything like i did when i was seventeen and it makes me think well why did i even go to college if this is what it's ending up with armed with a master's degree in geography and one hundred thirty five thousand dollars in student debt great collects two hundred dollars in monthly food stamps and sells textbooks on e bay from a text or attach a struggling graduate lost both her parents by the age of twelve i am approximately two months behind on my rent i have no idea why i lie awake at night when we freaking out about the i frightened being affected but no matter how much she loses she's also gauger to keep paying back her private loans sallie mae america's largest private lender it took out forty thousand dollars in loans i'm already owing sixty five thousand and i just graduated a couple of months ago twenty five thousand dollars in interest came out of nowhere

unlike federal loans private loans can adjust interest rates as high as lenders want and don't offer consumer protection income based repayment is not an option with any private loans neither the firm is for the unemployed for example right now and desperately looking for work and selling my name on payments they won't pay about seven hundred dollars a month gray is one of millions of americans haunted by student but very few have any other option to ition costs have risen six percent since one thousand nine hundred eighty and most of the top ivy league colleges cost fifty thousand dollars per year jeffery is pioneering occupy student debt a movement calling for u.s. congress to bring in. protections that would keep private lenders from pushing millions of americans into default it's going to be defaults after defaults after before and once you default that's a black mark on your credit report for life because two months cannot be discharged

in bankruptcy there is legislation to take the straight away in two thousand and five that sallie mae lobbied for spending millions and millions on lobbyists in the u.s. is nearing one trillion dollars over the reportedly surpassing the nation's credit card debt and today a generation of americans find themselves in slieve to the banks and armed with a diploma that no longer guarantees a job. r.t. . and for more on this i spoke to robert applebaum founder of forgive the student loan debt dot com with all this data i asked him a simple question just how big of a problem is this in the u.s. and what it means for it's a days you take a listen. it's very hard to wrap your mind around a figure of one trillion dollars but when you consider that your missteps that take over the heads of not only recent college grads but people who are

thirty's and forty's and fifty's and beyond to look at paying for their student loans for decades and have paid for their educations many times over but still have five figure balances left on their accounts. economically suppressive effect of that debt and how we could be doing so much more to stimulate the economy if these loans were forgiven. and robert can you talk a little bit about you know with this huge amount of student that how it's impacting the everyday lives for students that are saddled by this that you know the types of life choices. and investments that people are delaying as a result of that absolutely work on this issue for you know nearly three years now and i have heard from countless people from all walks of life all across the country every age group you can imagine. that you know it cuts across

all generational lines of cultural lines all geographical rights and the effect of this is that people are starting businesses starting families put it off having children and they're not the best thing they're not innovating and they're not doing any of the economic stimulus things that we need all americans to be doing right now so that we can take ourselves out of the hole created by the greed but those at the very top and you know occupy wall street they are protesting against economic and equality among other things looking at the bigger picture how does the student debt problem play into this issue of rising inequality. well. for me at least i don't think that there is any single issue that typifies and example of the raping and pillaging of our country over the last thirty years that

the issue of student loan debt as i said earlier discussed across generational lines you know there is this perception that was talking about student loans we're talking about twenty somethings and that's true to a certain extent but i would say about half of those who follow me are in their thirty's and beyond that like i said earlier they've been paying for years on their skin and they've seen they've seen their balances go up not down after years of paying so in terms of the occupy wall street movement and the people finally rising up fighting back against these justices i think it's about time and i don't like like i said i don't think any single issue exemplifies the inequities that are present in this country the way the issue of student loan debt does that's why i believe that the occupy movement has taken on this issue because it

really just goes to show how badly this country has suffered due to the economic policies of the last thirty years. and i was founder of forgive student loans that dot com rather after a bomb and from the enormous loan dads are slashing funding for college as outraged students are speaking out against the fate of higher education and california in fact campuses across the state so hard in a strike today and what they call open university u.c. berkeley roger and alex byrne are going there and we are talking all about it take a listen. the open university to response to two things one of which is a proposed eighty one percent tuitions which would certainly be the death of public education in california and then the second reason we called for the strike today in the open university today is in response to police violence that was visited upon. an armed peaceful protesters including myself last wednesday night erica

what is the most. trying profound. yeah so we've been incredibly clear about what we're trying to achieve and we have very specific demands they're brought to man they're very specific one thing we want is we do not want to see an eighty one percent tuitions hike instead we want to use the regents are individuals who run the university of california system we want them to endorse the refund california initiative which would put a tax on the wealthiest and on the banks that would replace the money that's been lost for public funding of education in addition we want to real response from the university about the be completely unjustified use of force last wednesday we're calling for the chancellor to resign immediately and we want an extremely investigation into the police use of force and i understand why they received

orders to to basically attack students who are doing nothing more threatening than linking arms to how is this playing out today what is the kind of participation are you. it's been absolutely extraordinary and as one of the organizers of today's events i couldn't have possibly expect things to turn out as phenomenal as they are there are thousands of students here at. the class today and everyone's contributing what they can contribute there are people teaching dance classes there are people doing teach out in sociology in philosophy in critical race studies there's all sorts of things going on down here and we're showing that we can have a free university which have an open university that is that is accessible to everyone in the community and in this campus does not need to be closed in militarized the way you see regents in chancellor berger now seem to want to be about we're seeing pictures now on the screen. of protests california that turn

violent recently were kind of response are you getting from police. would be defrayed turn island i find to be a little disturbing in the sense that those images show police attacked students not a single video has surfaced showing a student throwing a punch throwing a bottle or defending him or herself so i would but i would think the courage to refrain the protests were violently repressed by the police but the students were nonviolent and i'm incredibly proud to say that i think it's very difficult i can speak from experience that you know when you're being beaten by a police officer it's hard not to defend yourself but but that is what we did and we think it's very disturbing that the university would respond to peaceful protest with violent policing. and that was u.c. berkeley graduate student alex barnard and perhaps a lot of occupy wall street successes is how it's reached different corners of the

globe from india to italy protesters worldwide are chanting the same message r.t. correspondent nice and now it was here to talk about the international perspective of the movement but i think first of all lot of people don't get it because i've been living abroad for ten years and it's always people asking me how can america you know invade iraq go to afghanistan to have this mission in libya nobody's saying anything about it so i think on one side people are surprised and on the other side some people especially americans like it's become myself are a bit relieved that finally americans are coming out onto the street and taking a stand and you see people across the globe in london in australia in european countries expressing great solidarity with this occupy movement you know while story is in new york obviously so why do people from other countries care about what happens on wall street to the point where they're willing to take to the streets of london. of rome. because the message is the

same we pay taxes and people all over the world agree with this so-called ninety nine percent movement but ninety nine percent of the population pay taxes and have a right to have their voices heard which they haven't been heard in the past years it's the same thing in europe the same thing we're seeing on the streets of london of athens in italy people demanding that the government work for them that they're voted into power through to create and to pursue kind of what the people want them to do and that's not been happening another thing of course in this movement of why should we have to pay for bankers in the states it's something that the whole world shares at this moment and the people out in the street certainly see that and i think that empowers them in a sense that they know the whole world shares this problem of people across the globe are ready to come out and speak out against it and this comes at a time we're seeing other protests around the globe in greece you were recently and

france at the g twenty how would you compare the occupy wall street movement to some of the other movements that we're seeing around the globe. well i was actually in new york last week and i do have to say that it was relatively calm although the developments that we've seen certainly today are the exact opposite of that if i could say one thing that i think differs from european protest than from new york protests and i don't think that that's going to stay that way because i do think that they're going to expand it's really this kind of just complete takeover of a city be silent during the london riots early this summer we saw it certainly in greece it hasn't gotten that crazy it's how the n.y.p.d. come out kind of in the middle of the night and raid the protesters on wall street seem silly to protesters who pursue a are out on the main square in athens where you see kind of fire bombs being thrown just chaos we haven't really seen that is in new york so surreal with the

european protesters really get out there and i think watching from abroad it's fair to say that they seem really peaceful in new york and i think that's also part of the reason that some european fellow protesters might be surprised in terms of the clampdown that we've seen by officials in new york and across the states we've seen in oakland as well so if there is one thing that i think characterizes european protests and arab spring protests compared the united states is that they're a bit more chaotic but that might not stay the case for a long time now as artsy correspondent. well that does it for now for more on the stories we covered r.t. dot com slash usa in fact at a you tube page it's you tube last r.t. america you can also follow me on twitter as well right now how do. you know how sometimes you see a story and. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else hears you some other part of it and realize that everything you sort.