when you look like. a couple. jews you know what it is your. right. to look at it. so the question is will mitt romney upgrade his magic mormon underwear. after the break frack here frag their fracking everywhere i'm joined by filmmaker josh fox to talk about what boyle and gas companies are planning to do it in the delaware river which could spell disaster for. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it so that it may who can you trust no one who is your view with the global machinery see where we had it state controlled capitalism is called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our t.

question more. well go back to the big picture and marvin coming up in this half hour the fate of the delaware river hangs in the balance with a key vote scheduled for next week filmmaker josh fox joins it's all about where oil and gas were and plan to take their fracking endeavors next and what republican

governor is happy to oblige and what did mayor michael bloomberg learn from former egyptian president hosni mubarak you for clearing out zuccotti park in the us the answer coming up in tonight's delete. last week the environmentalist movement scored a big victory when the white house pushed back a decision on the trans national he stone x l a pipeline already the company building the pipeline trans canada has agreed to reroute the pipeline to avoid some environmentally sensitive areas but while the environment might be saved in this instance there is very much still out on that it's in danger in ohio governor john k. sick got shellacked at the polls last week and saw his signature anti-union law repealed went ahead with another very unpopular initiative i'll fracking in state parks

despite so. seventy percent of ohioans opposing drilling on public lands cases argued that his state will not quote walk away from our thoughts and chill industry and work and looking to case its campaign contributions you can see why he's not walking away from the oil and gas industry he received over two hundred thirteen thousand dollars in contributions from that industry gas industry and most of any politician in the entire state of ohio the oil and gas industry doesn't just want to do business it wants to frack the delaware river to next week on november twenty first the delaware river basin commission will hold a key vote on whether or not to open up the river basin of more than twenty thousand new gas wells fracking has been known to contaminate groundwater destroy ecosystems even cause earthquakes and now the oil and gas parents are fracking even more spearheading the effort against opening up the delaware to fracking is filmmaker josh fox creator of the movie gasland fox released

a short film last month to raise awareness regarding the danger of the delaware river take a look. at our nation's independence was born on the shores of the two were. the wild and signatures are states it is you're going to clear the policy states and certain selected weavers of the nation which environments there's still more people see creation of geological fish and wildlife historic cultural or other similar value should be preserved free flowing condition and that they. should be protected for the benefit and enjoying the present and future. has never. been a more decisive or important moment in the fight against fracking the pill or.

so josh what the fracture. it's going on in delaware well basically this is actually what we're talking about is an area in pennsylvania and new york the headwaters of the delaware river but the river feeds about fifteen point six million people with clean drinking water those are people in new york pennsylvania delaware and southern new jersey and for the past three and a half years that river basin has been in moratorium because of numerous groups fighting i mean actually probably hundreds of groups fighting against fracking in the delaware river basin the delaware river basin commission is a five member body of the governors of new york new jersey pennsylvania. and new york and a representative from the obama administration in this case the army corps of engineers so three out of five wins they're going to pass this regulatory package which they have quoted would allow twenty two thousand gas wells in the delaware river basin which would basically industrialize the headwaters of that river and contaminate them and forever change what is a national wild and scenic river

a tourist destination for five point four million people and again the source of drinking water for five fifteen point six million people it also happens to be where i live so i've been campaigning with the film gas and all across the united states two hundred cities in the u.s. in the last eighteen months showing the film doing q. and a is doing rallies and on five continents. europe australia north america and another one so i'm having a rick perry moment but basically. what i what i have to do now is come home and take a stand and this is what we're asking at save the delaware river dot com you can find information about the protests that are going to be happening on november twenty first and we really need a strong showing of people as well as calls to the obama administration and to the governor of delaware jack markell those are the two votes that are in play we know that tom corbett who by the way took more than a million dollars from the natural gas industry his campaign

a sickly reply to play here. abbott and chris christie will vote yes we know the new york actually is going to vote no surprisingly they came out this is we're not going to pass this regulatory package obama and jack markel and delaware and interestingly the vice president i think has a role to play here because he knows both of those guys being the best seller and being the vice president so we're asking people to weigh in right now with both the obama administration and the governor of delaware so it's typically and please if you can get down to trenton the place right near where george washington crossed the delaware to defeat the british and started the united states of america the barracks that he left behind the protest is right across from there and i think the place where b.p. the british corporation brink's i'm assuming they're involved in taking medicines well actually in my county in the upper delaware which is the headquarters like i said fifteen point six million people taking water and that is being leased at least in large part by hess corp which is a foreign corporation and you're seeing a lot of foreign service in the marcellus shale so you have this situation in ohio

is also more so you have marcellus shale the stress of course fifty percent of new york state sixty five to seventy five percent of pennsylvania depending i look at half of ohio all of west virginia and this fracking campaign that's been going on in thirty four states to disastrous effect now continue there in the go river basin let me let me challenge that with media and the what i'm seen every television network and particularly all the cable networks that might have any kind of political show at all is literally millions maybe tens of millions of dollars worth of ads that show isn't fracking they don't need it never use the word fracking and i say the natural gas is wonderful and here's the well here's where our little daughter plays with the teeter totter and everything is happy oh by the way we figured out that we have to have these wells lined with cement casings they've got these nice little illustrations and we go through the water level scare fully in and seal it down miles below where the gas is everything's wonderful not to worry i'm glad you brought up the ads because you can't take

a look at cable news these days you can't open up a magazine without seeing it out from sever. on the shell or exxon mobil about fracking or about how great natural gas is without using the word fracking like i said and this is the charm offensive what we saw when the film first came out is they attack it like crazy they mounted a huge smear campaign in your campaign against the film against myself against the families in the film against the new york times whose incredible coverage on the issue has been in line with the film against pro publica basically every news outfit that ruth reporting on this they attack and they even sent a letter to the oscars asking that our oscar nomination be rescinded and all these things backfired what it ended up doing was it drew more attention to the film people watching the film realize these were just ordinary america actually extraordinary americans who had no reason and lying were simply reporting on the devastation in their own backyard and what they're doing now is they're moving into this other mode where it's this feel good natural gas we're trying to try to put the genie back in the bottle and i don't think it's going to work so in the thirty seconds we have left what percentage of the time when they drill these beautiful

elegant wells that they show us on television what percentage of the time does that actually end up leaking well in these documents that we have uncovered that will eat show that they have a forty percent well integrity problem forty percent. forty percent of wells have uncontrollable discharges which means they're losing their product and their chemicals into an active or into the air and this is why i think fairly important why people cannot allow this process to come to the delaware river basin and we really especially need just like with the keystone x.l. to put obama on the hot seat and make sure that he weighs in on this got it or they are out of time and bursar thank you so well so. great work we don't need more fracking we need the opposite we need more and even more environmental regulations put aside republican talking points for second new environmental regulations don't kill jobs they create jobs based on a study out of the university of massachusetts at least a quarter million new jobs would be created by passing new e.p.a. regulations to force industries to clean up what they're spewing into the air

pumping into the ground. as the c.e.o. of american electric power mike morris noted we have to hire plumbers electricians painters folks to do that kind of work when you retrofit a plant and jobs are created in the process no question about that all around the country there are stories of factories having to employ more people to build scrubbers and install other cleaner technology to comply with the e.p.a. regulations in fact since the e.p.a. was created in the one nine hundred seventy s. carbon emissions in america have gone down sixty three percent g.d.p. has tripled plain and simple environmental regulations are better for our health and our economy will they mean less profit for c.e.o.'s which is why republicans hate. it's the good the bad in the very very publicly ugly good one wisconsin

now the progressive group is spearheading the governor scott walker recall effort with a campaign appropriately called occupy walker the purpose of the campaign is quote can publicize the disastrous policies of the pro corporate anti middle class scott walker street. one wisconsin now and a slew of other groups have sixty days to collect the five hundred forty thousand signatures needed to trigger a recall you can find more information at one wisconsin now i got work to get out there and collect signatures because the bad herman cain the pizza man who's pretending to run for president is once again suffering from foot in mouth disease in a recent interview cain again echoed the often de bunked islamophobia claims that a majority of muslims hold extremist views speak when g.q. kane said i have had one very well known muslim voice say to me directly that a majority of muslims share those it's the extremist views when pressed on whether or not he thinks the claim is right kane said yes because that's his community

that's his community i can't tell you his name but he's a very prominent voice of the muslim community and he said that. the old i can't tell you where i heard it but i heard it thing made famous by michele bachmann when she said someone she can't say who but someone told her the h.p.v. virus vaccine rather can give children brain damage it shouldn't surprise us too much coming from pain who admitted he got his entire nine nine nine plan from some guy in cleveland and quote so much longer do we have to take the cain train series and the very very ugly the bank of america even though the mega bank walked back its plans to oppose a five dollars debit card fee. they're hard at work stealing from the poor forty one states across the country contracting with big banks like bank of america to administer unemployment benefits meaning the state will deposit the benefits of a bank account and the recipients then have to use a debit card to collect them and in south carolina bank of america is charging fees for people to collect their benefits fees a size five bucks

a pop those fees are crippling people like show on a bus b. collects two hundred sixty four dollars a week in unemployment but is paid over three hundred bucks in fees to bank of america and shawn isn't alone bank of america's profit in millions of dollars of similar fees to similar unemployed americans and wonder why six hundred fifty thousand americans have move their money to local credit unions because the way the banks are behaving is very very good. after the break journalists enter at your own risk but last night's raid in occupy wall street did the nation's fourth a state of journalism and what it means for democracy it's. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through that it made can you trust no one who is in view who would have

global missionary zeal where we had a state controlled capitalism and school taxes when nobody dares to ask we do you are t. question more. for. for. for. your take my take is the second of the show and we answer your questions comments

criticisms and opinions here on the big picture last week i told you about secular students who attend private religious colleges and are being and from forming student groups based around atheism and ministers of the university of dayton notre dame university and baylor university every checked in student applications to form atheist agnostic or humanistic organizations on campus at the university of dayton arguing that non-believing groups go against the mission of the school to educate for formation in faith but they do allow other non-christian students students of islam judaism humanistic it's a form student organizations and meet on campus so i asked my guest jesse gallop and occasions director of the secular student alliance why he and his fellow student atheists are itching their belief system as a religion. why not just push it to them hey you know we have a belief system our belief system is we're not sure about that god we're not sure about any gods but it's our belief system and that qualifies it as

a religion and in fact some of us are even evangelical we're all trying to spread it and so you know this call is a religion and give us our damn club. well we don't consider ourselves religious and atheism isn't usually considered a religion but it has come up when the schools tried to send a student group to the campus ministry for approval it's much more appropriate to send the student groups to say lost the department something like that because it's more about discussing these things and promoting a safe community for these issues to be discussed and for non religious students to meet not. here not if i if i may. you know if if if you are going to go to the philosophy department or the political science department getting together to discuss whether or not. a particular political party should be arrived at or something like that as in the case of the democratic water republican you're getting together discuss x. essential issues. that the presence or lack of presence of

a deity the presence or lack of presence of a creation how did it all come about how did it not come about how do people interact with the belief systems we share that that sounds to me like a religion i think you've got a strong picture also a lot of the studio groups go beyond simply the distance or nonexistence of god because as you said you know ethics morality what it means to be a person and even to those in the last only parts of religion. obviously just weren't on the same page with many of you agreed with jessie on our facebook page carmen asked is that an anti religion or also say why would they is not a religion and on a thought you wrote as an atheist i agree that it would be insulting to be labeled as having a religion and treated as though i do i have no religion that's the whole point i'm free from religious teachings and dogma and gods instead if they want to have an atheist club on campus like any other club that exists for people who like the same

things to get together and like these things in a group i see nothing wrong with that at all but to call the absence of religion a religion strikes me as insane. well in my humble opinion it really isn't all that insane. when people keep it to themselves i might entirely agree with you but even jellicoe atheists seem to me to have simply created another church i'm talking about the evangelical gods they are nonprofit organizations that they're creating just like churches they have a belief system and something unprovable or unprovable provable just like a church they have a powerful message that they want to spread to the masses just like an organized religion or a church there organizes like a church they carry out community outreach just like a church in fact as as i said these are the ones of her mother downright evangelical about so if it quacks like a duck because it would make a very good t.v. evangelist or a very good evangelical atheist also last week i told you about

a charity fundraising stunt that had the advertising executives over victoria's secret wondering why didn't i think of that. crazy alert is that building wearing a bra off in a charitable publicity stunt to raise awareness of the breast cancer campaigns where pink initiative a british stain removal company created the world's biggest resume the makers of vanish stain remover spent four months constructing or contract the city with the ship's sales company company makes sales for ships to sew together the but he with you for hanging it across the front of a high rise building the undergarment fit for a giant was made with three hundred seventy five square metres of fabric and weighs nearly two hundred pounds as for the size it's reportedly a one thousand two hundred twenty two b. meaning it's only a matter of time before the i.t.v. south bank will be in london in which the monstrous problems hong comes forward with its own sexual harassment allegations or gets from again. so on facebook adam

said they should have put it on the bank of america building that places full of giant boobs and jenny asked the question that i'm sure was on the minds of many of our female viewers yes that is supportive i can't top that so that's it for your take my take tonight if you like your questions and comments heard on this segment the big picture listen up we want to know your to send us your comments by visiting the tom harkin facebook page twitter at tom underscore apartment or in the champ room on the message board through the blog at tom hartman dot com you can also leave a message on the rant fine it's good to buy three six three zero six agree disagree sound bob it's all welcome to remember that your comments may be used on the year. when former egyptian president hosni mubarak wanted to clear a part of your square of demonstrators who had been camped out for weeks there he went after them he did this but late last night when york city mayor michael

bloomberg said to break up the occupy wall street and hamlet sure after one am he made sure that he didn't make that same mistake but no dark he ordered a complete media blackout of his raid his police military style frankly police operation and as a crowd or whatever the police intended to do to the patriots camped out there for nearly two months billionaire bloomberg did not want the press to see so today we can assume that there were any camels or whips and security park last night but that's about it roadways of the park are blocked off to stop any news trucks from surrounding police cracked or air traffic above zuccotti park was closed to prevent the news choppers from hovering above and there's been several reports of reporters being turned away from the park and a few were even beaten by police and arrested. a reporter for example with the

village voice told police she was press and the police responded not tonight as in what not tonight we've suspended the first amendment not tonight there's no press not tonight a new york post reporter was put in a choke hold numerous members of the press have their new york p.d. issued press badges these were issued by the police department say yes you really are the press had them confiscated by the new york police department during the raid and mother jones reporter was violently shoved out of the park when he tried to take video of a man beans carried away on a stretcher to reporters with the associated press and one with the daily news were arrested among others during the raid when police police noticed someone tweeting or photographing with a phone camera they immediately seized them and threw them out of the park the

intentions of the new york police department during the raid with clear no information go in and no information coming out as a reporter with the new york observer said he as well as reporters from c n b c and d c c.b.s. the wall street journal and reuters were all blocked from viewing this raid by america bloomberg police department and despite this unprecedented media blackout are any of the major news networks reporting in detail on that blackout answer simply no that tells you everything you need to know about corporate owned media one percent income reporters and so-called news organizations that don't want to lose access to people like the billionaire mayor of new york city michael bloomberg. speaking of lumber and defended the police raid

last night by scenes a comedy part had become a fire hazard and a sensation through. as for why he didn't lead journalists in he said this. the police department routinely keeps members of the press to the side and when they're in the middle of a police action it's to prevent situation getting worse and to protect the members of the press who have the same rights as everybody else to brew we have to provide protection and we've done exactly that they're going to protect the members of the press by i mean this is incredible it would done exactly that by shoving protesters out of the area put them in chokeholds and arresting them i mean some of these reporters have been embedded in iraq i don't think they need protection from occupy wall street apparently if anything they need protection from mayor bloomberg police department which might be

a little jack down by the fact that they recently took four point six million dollars as a donation from wall street's jamie diamond and his j.p. morgan chase bank right down the street there on wall street as we saw what happened back in two thousand and eight journalist amy goodman at the republican national convention are increasingly militarized police departments have a history of beating reporters and shutting down the media. thank. god i'm. sorry i was thinking i knew it was the. guy who. was. going.

to write. back i. and so it happened again last night but with no media there we don't know for sure what happened there are reports that upwards of two hundred people were arrested in the raid there were reports that riot gear clad police beat people with baton including new york city council member rodriguez who was bleeding out of his head when the police took him into custody there were reports that the police deployed tear gas and even use sound cannons to disperse the crowds who knows what else happened in zuccotti park last night we know one thing for sure not only was occupy wall street shut down at least temporarily but our democracy died a little lies to our constitution only specifically names one industry and that's the press it's the fourth the state of our democracy without an independent and free press there is no transparency in government and without transparency in government there is no democracy occupy wall street will live on

and grow stronger as it has after each and every police crackdown but last night when billionaire bloomberg police officers beat and arrested journalists and forced a media blackout on the midnight raid our democracy suffered a wound that tragically will take a long long time to heal. and that's the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we covered visit our web sites thom hartmann dot com free speech dot org dot com also check out our two you tube channels there are links on our blog this entire show is also available for free video podcast on i tunes and we have a free time when i phone or i pad app in the app store you send us feedback and twitter atomosphere are but on facebook it's all mothers who are on our blogs message boards and telephone comment line over time problem. and don't forget democracy begins when you get out there and get active show up chad your it occupies something suitable.

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