tv [untitled] November 15, 2011 10:00pm-10:30pm EST
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oxys minefield comes and says feeds now in the palm of your. question on the call. like of the lot of show where you get the real headlines with none of the mercy for me live in washington d.c. now it's not going to take a look at last night's surprise raid on occupy wall street and today's court decision the protesters cannot stay in zuccotti park it was a sad day for free speech that rapper to sciri x. is giving back on the program to form his song occupy we are the ninety nine and he's going to tell us why the university of connecticut tried to bar him from performing it then secretary defense leon panetta and john mccain sparred on capitol hill today over u.s. troops leaving iraq at the end of two thousand and eleven so how does that play
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into the expanding u.s. presence in the rest of the region robert farley is going to join us for that or not all that and more for tonight could have some happy hour but first let's take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss. so last night completely unannounced new york mayor michael bloomberg sent into police to clear out the protesters out of the car the park and this time the mainstream media decided not to ignore it what was happening and they actually gave it a little bit of coverage this morning to get by wall street protesters were thrown for a loop at one am this morning when police called for surprise sure but totally cleared out so called the park for their unofficial headquarters may be shut down for now but that is not stopping hundreds of occupy wall street protesters there were things we were caught in the middle of some of them here between protesters and between police the third michael bloomberg saying the first amendment does not give anyone the right to take over make and we're taking place there one hundred arrests
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overnight according to the new york city police department the new york judge issued a restraining order that would seem to benefit the protesters a court issued an order prohibiting the city from enforcing laws that were put into place after they started occupying the park not only the police and also the private companies they don't do any harm and i don't make them it also if you don't have to buy. the rules that have just been posted here think there's a ten o'clock. now a recent court decision to change a little bit of those details we're going to get into that in our next interview but let me first fill everybody in on something that happened last night that the mainstream media didn't bother to cover three wondering why there isn't really a whole outpouring of video of the actual raid going down well it's not only because it was a surprise it's also because there was an attempted media blackout reporters from news organizations big and small all flocked out of the park once word broke and
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the police were going to be clearing out and there they found police who were hostile who barred them from entering the area and even in a few cases got violent new york post reporter was allegedly put in a choke hold by the police and n.p.r. reporter a new york times reporter and a city council member were all arrested airspace in lower manhattan was closed to c.b.s. and n.b.c. news choppers by the n.y.p.d. and and b c reporters press pass was confiscated and a large group of reporters and protesters were hit with pepper spray so it was very clear the police and mayor bloomberg did not want the press or the rest of america to see what was happening here although according to the picture notice it was only supposed to be a clean up so what exactly did they have to hike you know that's called that is censorship it's a violation of the first amendment it's unconstitutional and this is a very chilling case that should make everybody in the country concert so what about whether or not you support occupy wall street the ninety nine percent movement it's about fundamental values and rights the despotic billionaires like bloomberg are trying to crush but of course they are bloomberg didn't see it that
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way in a press conference today he claimed that journalists were barred from covering the raid to quote protect members of the press and to prevent a situation from getting worse well guess what mr mayor it's not your job to protect members of the press from covering a peaceful movement it's not your job or your right to prevent them from doing their jobs taking their own risks and bringing people to truth and telling the full story why do you think the journalists risk their lives. or try to war zones because they believe that stories need to be told and so you think you would think that the mainstream media would also be bothered by what went down last night you'd think they would be furious about the city's actions of the chilling of the first amendment but unfortunately if you thought that was the wrong they gave no coverage that or they gave coverage of the fact of the raid happened but then they didn't even mention the fact that journalists are being barred from covering it if our country's own press isn't completely horrified and outraged about the package this is going on and who is going to be it really just makes me sick to my stomach and
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it's not just the mainstream television networks that are doing it how about the new york daily news just this morning they printed a headline after the raid raid that read bravo to mayor bloomberg occupy wall street eviction that after news came out about one of their very own reporters was arrested then they tweeted the n.y.p.d. behavior was alarming and an attorney had been contacted so nothing bravo any more are you anyway i think you guys got a point here this was a disgusting example of the power elites trying to silence the press and the mainstream media just decided to miss it. all this morning after police it cleared as a car park on his orders and despite the critique of new york congress members and city council members michael bloomberg defended his stance. no right is absolute and with every right comes responsibility the first amendment gives every new
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yorker the right to speak out but it does not give anyone the right to sleep in a park or otherwise take it over to the exclusion of others nor does it permit anyone in our society to live outside the law. it's now just about an hour ago new york judge michael starman ruled that no the protesters do not have the right to stay in a park or tents or was sleeping bags writing his decision the court is mindful of the movement's first amendment rights of freedom of speech and peaceable assembly however even protected speech is not equally permissible in all places and all times so it's a lose for occupy wall street today that isn't also a loss for the first amendment joining me to discuss it is christopher freend friend excuse me president of the friendly fire zone dot com christopher thanks so much for joining us tonight and i'm curious you know we just found out about this right before the show and terms of the judge's ruling what do you think that you think that free speech isn't free at all times and in all places what.
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they are freedom is out salute as far as you know what you. are absolutely conditions there is number one the issue of the occupy movement all of them and sleep about it and it seems you know. i get it and it's very conditions in many places it are classical wait what you actually thought of the arc of a movement to get those little blood you need for a problem or use was there or a war against it was the end of the whole problem but it's. occupy actually or you're a model here and as we would ever done it but we are here for the original and don't look the media misses we usually are the biggest bunch of shit accountability transparency but we have nothing to hide your by or again we are kicking
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who and why you get the if you want there are even the radical journalists. other than i or we open. the motives and what you're doing in. you're breaking up a little bit so we're having a bit of a hard time hearing you but from what i gather there tell me a very correct you you agree that mayor bloomberg went too far when it came to censoring journalists and trying to block them from actually being able to cover the protests if you think that it's time for the occupiers to move on because they can't just sleep in a park but what about now you know we've now the judge is basically saying that they can go there they can be there peacefully you can't even lie down anymore i mean is that really what it's going to be you can't even lie down in a park it just seems to me like it's politically motivated well remember the issue i believe in new york is well so and again the problem with it is it probably don't or here's the other really accomplish by setting up a bit of
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a legal gray area in that sense because it's a privately owned public park and so a lot of people admitted that that's a very odd legal gray area because they have to allow access twenty four hours a day to people inside this park and then they can also make their own rules about what you can do in the park so there's a lot of back and forth there. well again here's a question for you for all the people that are supposed to have twenty four hour public access to that well every square inch and keeping up with the occupy folks are who again have local code know your message whatsoever. over who are taking public actions in new spaces the way workers that work or whether it's in city hall over or places like that i don't really is time you can move war and it may look i'm over to mark i but i'd probably more than most people if you want i still don't go what it is you're climbing were cars and i don't know joe let me let me ask you then about that why why is it that after two months you still have no idea what these people are trying to accomplish i think that they've laid out at least their message pretty well and if you look at the latest poll from am i see sixty percent
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of americans actually say that they agree with the message and with the goals it's about fairness it's about equality it's about ninety nine percent versus one percent not having a higher echelon of people government and corporations and the banks they're all work together and silence the average americans voice what's so hard to understand about you who party and pretty much anyone any. but we have to get past the rhetoric and. what is it can't which. are you with you know i'm the one who said they were. war three from. relationships with the. government officials that brought my question back why is it the will and carry for president has yet been able to work politically yes there's corruption there. but ego will be an article. as pro-business as you can be but he will i hope get
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a lot of will's average for a so i ask him not to allow markets where he will believe in capital and should be . but not all the republicans in it are all get we have the truth of it but we've got common sense and solution can't close it you can't make a well christopher christopher i unfortunately we're having some really bad technical problems there somehow and we're having a really hard time hearing you so i might have to cut it off heard a few words and we're going to continue this at another time but i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight thank you. i now we've spoken a lot about how musicians and celebrities have been putting in their cube sats adding their support and bringing more attention to the occupy movement across the country just the other week we interviewed immortal technique and how today we're bringing back another political rapper that our viewers should be familiar with to syria i just this month he was slated to appear at the university of connecticut for a political awareness rally organized by the student government but he was told that
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he would only be paid and allowed to attend if he did not perform his song occupy we are the ninety nine because it contains obvious political statements so here to tell us what happened in his own words is political rather syria and syria thanks so much for coming back on the shelf thank you for so tell me exactly that will get into the larger statements and messages of what you think occupy movement is all about but tell me what happened here at the university of connecticut what would happen is you know the book before political rally the day before actually the rarely they sent me e-mails saying that they did not want me to perform specifically. even though just like you said it was a political wariness rally and they actually sent me another contract that basically they listed songs that they wanted me to perform that they felt were not called uncle political. that if i performed another song outside of this contract that i would not be paid ok so they so they didn't allow you to perform any of your
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songs that they felt more political at all or only specifically the one about the ninety nine percent well i mean you could argue that all the muscles are political i mean if i'm talking about. the unjust execution of troy davis you could argue that's political you could argue that you can't really talk about race and social justice without the context of politics and then i would also argue that the song occupied with the ninety nine isn't a political song because the occupy movement isn't a political movement you just stated very plainly as the economic movement is about ninety percent of the people who see in their standard of living deteriorate and the one percent gaining greater wealth. i agree with you that louis doesn't tell me that they basically gave you another contract so you won't get paid if you this you decide to go and sing and perform it anyway knowing that it wouldn't get paid by us because i felt you know this was once again more rose and freedom of speech the person who organized the event i met him at occupy wall street if it wasn't for
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actually when we were filming the video for we were not in that so if it wasn't for that movement i would have even been at the university of connecticut but no importantly it's because i feel like i'm seeing people sacrifice and we say we saw them face you know police brutality we see people get arrested we see people willing to sleep on the cold to make sacrifices if there can make those sacrifices and i can make a sacrifice of one payment at some point in this movement all of us are going to have to make sacrifices in order to see the will of the nineteen be done so how many of the different encampments have you been to that's fine i've been to occupy wall street i've been occupy pittsburgh you got to check out i can see why you're here i want to know what is it exactly so you say that you don't think it's necessary a political movement because it's an economic movement but where do you think that's all going well i think that what's happening is it's really the first thing is begin to change the discourse when we were talking about the debt ceiling and we have to cut. government spending now listen we talk about income inequality so just
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for the fact that occupy wall street we can begin to change the dynamic of what you know politics we were talking about is that is a major movement really i think is changing the way we interact with one another you know one of the biggest misconceptions that people have about occupy wall street is that people of color are involved but when i was an occupy wall street us all different people of color face agents relating to one another talking about problem discussing problems and really see what we're seeing is really the remaking of a society that is corrupted on the inside out in the beginnings of something new and different and better let's talk about some of the responses that we've seen on. clearly when it came to mayor bloomberg he decided to clear them out surprise them not time about even blocking some of the press we have seen a lot of violence especially over occupy oakland there's a chance for quiet from oakland even said that she had been coordinating or at least been discussing this with mayors of eighteen other cities and maybe this was a coordinated national response do you think that that means that they're getting
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scared or they're just getting impatient you know i mean how how does the occupy movement in your eyes progress from here i think they are absolutely going to get i mean why would you move on peaceful protesters you know they don't have any weapons you know to their peaceful why would you move on with such force if you're if you have a right as a mode of mayor bloomberg why would you then go there one day in the dead of night on a monday night and then got a lot of press to come in why if you have a righteous motive city of oakland would you use rubber bullets would you use flash grenades would use tear gas is obviously a fear tactics but like what happened in oakland when ever you see this police terrorism happen you see the movement grow and grow it is really like putting gasoline on a fire because we're seeing how somebody coming together in unity for peace is causing such fear with these people that are in control and to me is really marking the end of this one percent in their rule yalla these actions especially the police
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brutality often does just bring more attention calvinist in the region more some people are saying that mayor bloomberg perhaps martyred the occupiers today just before you go we're actually going to perform the song of the ninety nine and here it is for the audience take a look. this is dedicated to those brave protesters. the face the face with police terrorism and occupy wall street. and occupy oakland what occupy our portland. i don't your part. and all the occupations all over that are you know. the. goal.
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with the people don't let you tell because you repeatedly now said the salad bowl discussion well yeah but the people we celebrate that a lot of people have the power but yes this could be a cutter because. the straw you want to give you want to export that tebaldi kind of credit so we leave it to we because it's to get what he thinks freedom to be put against the patriots if it were a patriot a terrible thing to believe that so body count old will hold the failures of the powerful but you falsely give no party went to prison that's what you told me but my life is going to call for me. to. go. flee to. flee to. flee to.
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remember what the difference what the finest people present in the old public at the palace built with p.c.b. to never give this time it is apparent that their plight is for the people but the character of the idea of the cook up some. sure bill a specific target but if you want to see terrorists look like you give a damn for your. mother to hope so you know so most people who look up above the pacific at the front of the canal you know plato told one of these people how they should. care stopping. the good old. occupiers. i want to thank the syriac for coming on the show tonight and now it's been great but there's still a lot more to you know how the media perceive the occupiers of it through the park
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as no big deal but what about demonstrators right here in the region get their take and then after that it come after the break. into it all their military mechanisms to go to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. but you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so. easy to understand it and then you glimpse something else and here's some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.
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face quite hard the argument that they're being overly dramatic. all right so earlier in the program we discussed the impact of the scottie park addictions would have on the overall movement right now but let's get something in some other occupiers do they agree with these of actions is a crackdown really necessary and why is occupy d.c. even able to stay without the crackdowns by the police one of our producers patrice and essentially went to make pearson squared find out. to treat the protesters like that last night was sickening to hear about and watch i thought it was crazy and i thought it was ridiculous it's just really sad to see you know i had all this stuff to show it was actually their homes it was all our work and so it is violent they weren't giving any warning i think it was like a fifteen minute warning in the middle of the night and i thought it makes sense i
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just read it safe and they continue to grow grow stronger with their movement just because somebody six have some that are mean and i just mean to get stronger i know we're we are here we're safe i think we are and i don't feel that there's any reason to be afraid of our situation so you don't think that you'll see a crack down here in d.c. probably not here i think they're protecting us more than they're trying to harm us we expect to be here for the long haul regardless of the bumps along the road but i think they've been trying different tactics on us and we've never we haven't had the same relationship with the police department as new york has had from day one when it happens we ready. we're ready real ready for the police they can come in you would have they want because we people just like them a lot of it is just people that want to disrupt us and trying to get the police on a trail that doesn't exist because there is a lot of peaceful protesting here i live in the square i think it's
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a new city i think it's the new civil rights movement for the next century i'm sitting in front of the bus and no way to drink out of anyone a fountain and sit anywhere in a restaurant the growth of it is sometimes. you know messy so it's that's what this is this is what the movement is it's the beautiful part of it there are interests fighting against us and against democracy in this country and that is very motivating one of the awesome things about all the places that had been raided and shut down is that people have come back people are going to start coming together even more you know it's just a wake up call that's what it is a wake up call. now this thursday marks the two month anniversary since the occupy movement began its of the park and since then we've seen the movement explode cancer sprung up from small u.s. towns to big cities across the globe in order to archie correspondent christine is going to take a look back at how this movement has evolved. you could say it started with
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a whisper a call by canadian activist group and busters that spread on facebook to feed. the streets this very spot wall street was the site of a heinous crime but before long that whisper turned into a roar with dad. collective anger and wall street corruption a growing income inequality in america and a system in which government policy is often dictated by corporate greed before long the crowds brought police. was. out and police brought pepper spray. was chelsea elliott receipt on the ground behind the nets appeared on our t.v. and games when you weren't hurting anyone you weren't blocking traffic her story brought on more protesters a few days later seven hundred of them were arrested on the brooklyn bridge sad sad
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sad instead of scaring people away scenes like this was outraged the masses and before long occupy movements multiplied from los angeles. to chicago. to boston. and just about everywhere in between forcing the mainstream media to start covering the protests they have largely ignored all things the point where the protests that nobody seems to know the corporate media viewed as an accomplice here's what happened when fox news host rolled a rivera try to film a segment at occupy wall street was was couldn't speak louder than chance of fox news lies and house leaks thank. god the mood grew darker as authorities. and to clear the tent city at zuccotti park at the last minute they
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were allowed to remain in the park themselves. by times square was next not brought scenes like this is not where. the government in. iraq war veteran should mark thomas fighting would have become in his eyes widespread police brutality he appeared on our show a few days later you're saying if you want to fight go to iraq or afghanistan what do you mean by this you know to hurt the citizens that you swear to protect you know this is kind of you know a contradiction to the oath that you take and then there was occupy oakland here you see another veteran scott olsen standing peacefully. within moments he was hit in the head with a tear gas canister fracturing his school and left him politically condition what a lot of that which was shot a spotlight now shining bright on the role of police which energized veterans
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former sergeant posted this photo online saying you did this to my brother he also came on our show i may not personally know. but i know its story all the while the protests spread much to the dismay of authorities who over the weekend if they did encampments once again in oakland. and the port. st louis with you and new york's zuccotti park the heart of the movement also clear for the first time since the movement began now many worry what's next for occupy d.c. there any sense of panic or anything one thousand i wouldn't say panic as much as just like it now it's time so one of the first things they did here is to clear this part of the park protesters tell me they've moved their tents closer to one another they say they've condensed their efforts because they want to stay focused . they want to stay organized i say there's
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a chance that some of the protesters from the other occupations around the country could wind up here on k. street because this is one of the last places a very few clashes with police in washington christine are. all still to come tonight we hear from our viewers and show intel and of war hawks got to grill defense secretary leon panetta today on the iraq withdrawal or to speak with robert farley about the alphabet affair and its congressional spin is written. into it we're. going to go to bring justice for. all i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i paid taxes. well i would characterize obama as the care was man a version of american exceptionalism.
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