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twenty fourteen. for article. one there right now there decade that's right. inside only. you know. i have a right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i paid taxes. so i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. a story. you think you understand it and then something else here sees some other part of it and realize that everything is. hard.
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argument that they're being overly dramatic. i guy says time for you said it i read it take time to respond to my brilliance and engaging the were comments from facebook twitter and you tube because when you've got something to say i listen now first i want to respond to a commenter that watched our interview on the republican foreign policy debates or the so-called commander in chief debates where each candidate rushed to declare their desire to decimate the foreign aid budget eighty five palma commented on you tube for an eight accounts for one percent of the national budget why then so much emphasis on this and not on the money wasted in homeland security or all the wars the us is involved in and i guess the convenient little fact that all they can to
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get candidates for gets a mention when they proclaim their desire to save us from fiscal ruin by cutting a program because almost nothing in the scheme of things because god forbid they actually touch the programs they cost money like unnecessary weapons systems or the other real pentagon bloat that's right aside from ron paul these candidates simply choose to ignore the cost of our two full scale wars our secret wars and our hundreds of bases all over the world because it's so much easier to say that you're going to stop funding countries who hate us but actually tackling the real areas of spending our foreign policy now this is where i would have expected a moderator to jump and say hey guys we realize a four is only one percent of the budget so i'm not sure that's where he should be focusing all of your efforts for getting this country back on fiscal track but will be too much to ask because both scott pelley and major garrett were content to let the g.o.p. presidential candidates get away with platitudes about fiscal responsibility regarding a program that is just one percent of the federal budget way to go guys are not want to stick with the same subject and respond to another viewer that commented on
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our coverage of the republican foreign policy debate white welch said on facebook i know i've said it before but i love our t.v. and sort of looking at the horse race or if a candidate stumbles we have a news network that actually looks at policy. thank you somebody else feels my pain here the back of the media focus is all and i mean all of their attention on have the debates will affect each candidates chances for election how that slip up is going to fight them in the polls lets them totally off the hook for actually covering with a candidate saying they want to get the us and all that another war no big deal forgetting a few words well that warrants you hours or maybe days of coverage it's almost as if there's a physical a version of the cable media to cover what the candidates actually say which are their policies and trust me i know that it's scary to actually listen to what these people say they would do if they were president but newsflash that is your job now finally you want to respond in kind you are that tweeted out this college twenty three set at the low to show love the show kind of like the female version of the
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daily show. i wish my commute seriously lacking but thank you for the comment i'll definitely take it as it's my rantings today but i will be back with more as usual next week. the new secretary of defense leon panetta has been making his rounds warning of imminent doom if the supercommittee fails to trigger mechanism would kick in to slash defense spending and it's not to bring spending back to two thousand and seven levels with by any means but our country in more danger it just might limit the role the u.s. could play around the world and so we have to ask what is the role that we want to play let's look pacifically ghana stand for this week president hamid karzai has called a lawyer jirga together made up of two thousand afghan leaders to discuss the future of relations with the u.s. as well as to go she actions with the taliban karzai is trying to get the u.s. to keep troops and military trainers in the country for ten years past the twenty fourteen deadline swells getting help financing the afghan security forces but of course all this in exchange for full respect of afghan sovereignty and to night
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raids and house searches by foreign troops but it's ten years in america's war effort in afghanistan still failing but what will ten years more really achieve i'll talk to somebody who's been there and knows what the u.s. and coalition troops are doing wrong joining me to discuss this is tim lynch founder of free range international tim thanks so much for being on tonight a long time no top we're happy to have you back on the program. all right so let's first start with what's going on in afghanistan right now with this loya jirga that karzai has decided to call it's kind of an old tradition and yet at the same time he's getting a lot of critique for it because well they've been trying to build democracy in afghanistan and now they have elected representatives so what do you make of this weird mix of all the new. i don't like it it's it's it's seems to me that most a loya jirga is comprised of. his chief competitor if you would if you can call it that every country that has
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a single bill principle and who is not there i don't believe many of the pain shares are there any of the other treasury x. and so i i don't know what to make of it and i find his demeanor. to be a little bit unreasonable even though i have to agree that you have been have been on record as saying i don't think the night raids are a smart move right now he has demands but he also has desires for troops to stay for another ten years past twenty four. for more funding to help train our campuses can you think of any reason why after twenty four we would still need troops to be there for ten years. no i can't i can't think of any good reason why we would other than the national reputation international prestige and loss of fish. but that that would be a hard reason to sacrifice a son or daughter in a in a full on hope if you will and so no i don't i don't see exactly a good reason for saying that. i will i want to get i want to get more into that in
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terms of saving face and i want to bring up a blog post the route a couple of months ago where you especially detailed certain ways in which you think the counterinsurgency campaign there is failing even said that it was all based on a lie so i want to break out of it out i rather the ability of modern western armies to train a mentor afghan security forces is almost zero plus one. because we were used to be able to do this kind of thing it was when we could not send people back and forth in a day back when you had to have a regiment in china is simple force marines and they stayed there and stay stay there until they were mission was done in a case of the fourth marines i think was like ten years or so because we have so much money in our expectations of of what we give our troops in the field or so high and so expensive we can't make your anybody because committee room would require you to live with them and to basically wear what they wearing travel like they travel and do what they do and we don't do that i mean with with very few
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exceptions some special forces units that do that. you see good mentoring done in certain areas of the south but it depends on which battalions they're in which regiment is there as as to how effective it is not everybody's uniform and how they do this and so it doesn't matter in the end because they're going in seven months and so every year the afghan officials are dealing with a different person who is full of good intentions and and knows that right now the big thing is we're not going to kill something well ok ok so they go out of the way not that's not how you win these things you win these things by committing and be there in force and change and you don't have a legitimate partner to begin with and you're in a closet ministration and any time you turn the thing over to the afghan government it immediately reverts back to chaos and so i see us actually setting up for another massive civil whether it be perfectly honest but the. the same time you
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know right now you have so many veterans that are struggling because they're going on their third fourth fifth sixth seventh tours and this is a war that has lasted ten years and so are you saying that it needs that ten years it might need ten more years because you need to put the time in or they just haven't been putting the time in properly at all because they're so separated because they're on massive bases that have burger kings and pizza shops and whatnot it would suggest what i'm saying they don't need ten years. i can't think of a legitimate reason why we spent ten usually begin with already there and i believe you're asking people who really really enjoyed my time in this case to not get a lot of friends there it's. in that respect it's it's cool but but you cautioned you stood in other people's money and you're in your life and you're throwing away the lives and health of other people short and then it's just that this is because what is the point of view that. i have no idea it's a problem because if that's not
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a very clear now it comes to spending other people's money too you know we often hear about massive amounts of way so that you and millions if not billions of dollars and you've heard about how through your relationships that you've made over the rear of the years over how knowing how to interact with these people you get stuff keeper so what can i learn from you. it may be the most frustrating thing about my entire experience over there they're not going to learn anything from me because they don't want to hear. the need to successfully operate on on the cheap in live off their favs in it and live inside the earth and they don't want to hear that because they're not going to do it so it really doesn't matter the fact that i can be that i will want to base. to get picked up by. a guy in his in his bed all this you've either they didn't hear conditions similar summers one hundred twenty degrees or as a kid only got to score for a few minutes to be on him a coach and michael ware if you can score we went to court how much he paid two
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thousand a month i could have bought the car for thousand dollars and who. but this is the kind of a ridiculous nonsense that goes along with a big army big mentality and to me it's just you know as a guy who spent his entire adult life as a in the marine corps it's most disappointing to see because that is not the way we talk about doing this back in the ninety's when we were talking about doing exactly this kind of operation so can you blame that on the. kids here in congress and big defense contractors have a lot of lobbyists say they cost more and more and more or is there just a general lack of you know the ability to use gore or fail and never put it into the rhetoric so that you can actually realistically look at what you're achieving what you're not. yeah i don't i don't know where to set the what i think there's enough blame to go around. to a whole host of people starting with general colin powell and his if we break it
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we've got to fix it i don't think we can break it or not fix it we're going to do i mean we could have done what we did in two thousand and one had a little jerk to say hey boys just keep yourselves and in control of you know you get rowdy in school of reporters again we're going to come back and try to be even worse i think that might have been a good play but at the time i didn't think that. even you know it took me seven years of being in afghanistan before that to finally realize just exactly how how how how and that we are at this current thing and how much money we waste looking fine in five pound bags of ice from saudi arabia. who are who do this kind of thing who only us apparently apparently we do about them thank you from i try catching back up about oh it's my pleasure thanks for having me on. all right coming up next the cia is waging a war against a book on the details of the ice cold times i have been happy our peanut takes a bite of mario and herman cain just doesn't really do well with the press about
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his latest book. inside only. to go just this or. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i think taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life you think you understand it and then something else hears you some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.
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hi guys it's time for tonight's tool time awards night because of the cia once again all common sense and logic is floated out the window at the agency in the name of over pacification and it's arouse the book of one of our frequent guest retired lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer who's been on the show many many times look at a little run in with the cia over his book operation dark heart he recalls shaffer turn in the book to the pentagon's classification board to be reviewed prior to publishing that's what he was given the a ok for the book to be published and so the book was published back in september of two thousand and ten and then something strange happened the cia and other intelligence agencies had a last minute meltdown about the book removed its permission for the book to be
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published citing over two hundred parts that they revealed as classified information small problem with a book already been published so the pentagon then it tapped into their inner fahrenheit four fifty one and decided to buy all ten thousand books and burn and destroy them nothing like a good old book burning now of course as they did that and redacted copies of the book are being sold on e bay and all across the internet but despite the massive failure of the pentagon's exercise in mass censorship they've decided to double down all their battle against this book shaper is now suing the pentagon and the cia for violating his first amendment rights he argues that nothing in his book was classified information so in order to successfully do this he needs his original and redacted manuscript which the government unfortunately has and which they will not give back at all they say that he cannot his manuscript back which is already being sold all over the internet because it contains classified information and of course he says if that's not true bottom line here is that cia will give him back his original manuscript with information that he already knows because he wrote it and
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information that is already readily available to the public because it's already been published. it's already being sold all over the internet i'm sorry but just where and when does the madness and the government is simply making a fool of it's all here so for embracing censorship throwing all common sense out of window we're going to give the cia tonight's tool final word. ok guys time for happy hour and joining me this evening are two producer jenny churchill and jim hansen retired special operations master sergeant and military blogger at black five net thanks for join me guys and ok so we've obviously been making final herman cain a lot on the show lately but it just makes it so easy and so before we get into the next three then why are we going to make fun of him we're going to play you this
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clip again that came from the walk the journal sentinel where they were interviewing him asking about what he thought on obama's strategy or policy towards libya and where he just had this really really embarrassing moment take a look. president obama supported the ogress correct. i do not agree with what you. know so there's more. you are going to see. god it's just so awkward jim you have you have been on since we've been playing this clip you think it was great even if it were hurts a little i like herman cain just because he's a straight talker but he couldn't even talk straight and that's
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a softball it's livio you know gadhafi is a jackass and obama should have just taken the lead instead of leading from behind it's not a telephone. with i pick but i have to agree to disagree on that will and. kate definitely came out looking bad so this is the best part is that now the iraqi journal sentinel has released another little tidbit another little gem from one of the other things that he said during his trip in wisconsin and he said this is a quote i'm not supposed to know anything about foreign policy just type throw that out i want to talk to commanders on the ground because you run for president people say you need to have the answer now you don't know you don't that's not good decision making. do you think. i'm a little shocked by this because i completely thought the president was the commander in chief of our armed forces the commander he's supposed to be getting all of this is exactly so i'm just a little confused on how you're going to make sure that other people are making the correct decisions if you don't even know countries that are having revolutions that
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we are involved in that's just a little little bit of an issue of me. you know i mean it's tough to keep track of the whole arab spring thing but i'm sorry herman you know you're losing me on this one you know it's one thing to delegate authority lou yes i give you a little baby you're getting that something could actually deter you. might call him at this point i don't know that i could sport that for president you should you you should go something about foreign policy bottom line if you want to be the president you don't need to be the foremost expert on every single region in the area you have advisors you have your for that but you need to know what's going on foreign policy is the one area where the president often has the authority to make decisions without. congress this is the one place you can actually do something all the rest of the world here you have to wait for congress and everyone else to agree right. let's just hope he doesn't have that. gator go and get out. ok let's move on to the next one. here. they're angry with somebody and what do you
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know and this time they have some beef with mario with the video game they're upset because he's wearing a fur to a new key suit the new super mario three d. land which is a japanese raccoon dog that fortunately wearable things happen to them but it's a video game and so they've released a video in response. you know it's a video game this is where i think it goes a little too far it doesn't mention i've seen some people commenting here they don't care about all the turtles that he kills all the time when he's just out and squashes them and a guy who cares you know who cares about the turtles all about the new king and somebody has got to take the side of the poor record dog here and it's not going to
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be. ridiculous you can have the sales it's really terrible topic selection for those e-mails we managed to find out things that we all actually agree on i don't like very little. well i just you know i think that peta obviously and i've said this many times before i think that peta serves a purpose that is for a good cause i totally understand you know people fighting against animal cruelty but i just think that their tactics are lame and i think a lot of the time they go too far and over this hobby and i think you have better issues to go after than what mario is wearing in the next in the new video game i think they could serve a purpose that has a place i want to name absolutely do not because they're all worried about that when you know it's just crazy because there are actual things to be worried about that do they hate sonic the hedgehog because because it's a hedgehog that you're playing as the talk of the new house that's empowering to have chives to them probably play
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a role he can peta i mean ok. we are agreeing on everything this is so weird everything presided over but obama well let's move on to something that the obama administration is doing the justice department basically for starters i think everybody out there is speed to catch a predator where you go after predators they go after little girls and a little clip and then i'll expand after this. currently walking into our undercover houses thirty nine year old john elliott a factory worker for a window company he's driven to want a half hours to meet a group who told him she was twelve and home alone. ok so now it looks like not only creepy predators that go after teenagers can be caught get in trouble because the justice department wants to make it a federal crime and it's out there to make it really complicated and i don't make a federal crime to violate the terms of service of any website but basically that can mean that if you're on facebook and you lie about the way you look or your name
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or something like that or if you're a match dot com and you lie about your weight technically you're violating the terms of service so basically there are a lot of people out there that are now going to be criminals because they obviously completely lie about themselves when it comes to dating profile including the to catch a predator crew because they go online and lie and say i was well here's all that really very twenty three or whatever other thing we had it nailed when you brought up obama in the justice department i knew i was going to bring the other side of this and i can't. but. i don't know as i know it will read the terms of service of anything we all kind of like because you have to do anything when no one's ever read it and if you do read it you can find out that you by a leak the terms are a little everything and i don't even know google had terms of service but apparently they're saying that if you let me have all of this so i have according to the interpretation the way they're going about this that means that. ok sorry i lost you for is like a google terms of service to play that if you're not of legal age to form
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a binding contract with going for bidding for using any of its sites or services so the legal age of consent there is eighteen so basically if you're a seventeen year old who conducts a google search while you're researching a term paper then you're also now a criminal you know it's all words but. that's actually the most and same thing i've heard all day well hopefully that i mean there are a lot of people by the google is mining my e-mail category of every one of my searches and trying to sell me crap i don't need based on my internet habits thanks i'm sorry if i'm going to listen to your terms of service and that i'm the criminal i'm sorry they're really. going. just how high is no danger i mean that's how we know for four weeks i was ok here is i was ready to fly even brand new bennett's on ads that are supposed to be controversial because they show a bunch of world leaders i think we have them right. given a little smooch and the word there is on hate we all just love each other we're
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says and i think my favorite line is is the obama winter that really looks like he's popped right out all at once. like. what do you say is this groundbreaking i think the sort of obama kids and child as if you want . it so i'm going to go ahead and heat on that one i like angela merkel were right there in sort of the germans in the french if they ever got together europe's toast which they might well carla bruni's not unlike the really you're going to tell me for angela merkel oakum that you know berlusconi would somebody come on that would have been fun with him gone oh ok i have enough that's my god i bet you thank you for joining me tonight and next time we'll find something we can fight over outraged by the way just just so we can have one difference i'm not. are you guys that's a good night thanks for spending and make sure you come back tomorrow colonel morris davis former chief prosecutor of military commissions at guantanamo bay is going to be on the shelves i mean time to get to become a fan of your show on facebook and follow us on twitter if you missed any of
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