so. welcome to the lower show where you get the real headlines with none of the mercy or can you live in washington d.c. now tonight going to take a look back at yesterday's day of action for occupy wall street we'll look into whether on a grand scale people are ready to accept this kind of massive of this obedience or if they prefer law and order then if there's consensus about anything in washington say it's a congressional super committee seems bound to fail but we already knew that congress was dysfunctional so let's take a look at what in ninety nine percent proposal to rein in the deficit looks like

prepared by those camping out in freedom plaza kevin zeese one of the main organizers can join us and with less than a year away from the twenty five elections will take a look at voting laws that are sweeping sweeping across the states threatening to disenfranchise voters across the country we have all that and more feet and i couldn't get to us of happy hour but first take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss. all right so yesterday i for one decided to give the mainstream media a bit of a break i even had a few nice words for them because yesterday as the occupy movement celebrated its two month anniversary a day of action was going on in cities across the country we saw the mainstream media finally give it some attention the attention that it's due but as i predicted it was only because there were good pictures and there was a convenient anniversary now because they realize the significance of this movement but today they were just right back it's all about everything else. stunning new

allegations in one of the most high profile deaths in hollywood history and movie star drowned thirty years ago this month during a boating trip her husband robert wagner and actor christopher walken were on board at the time was the fight between natalie wood and her husband robert wagner what ultimately led to her death. yes vandals target the home of accused child predator and former penn state coach jerry sandusky football coach jerry sandusky could now face federal charges as well few days ago interestedly he got delivery of an exercise machine it seems abundantly clear that he's not planning on leaving that home anytime soon unless you use live. with god i think when i was a month or two months old joseph and healthier food you smaller portions are more frequently throughout the day and this breaking news so it's. really guys we

hundreds of people were arrested yesterday and protesters in new york managed to cross the brooklyn bridge the signs of life were all there for movement some of thought would die out after evictions and rates and you want to talk about a rapper slimming down to some of your top news a case from the eighty's being reopened deserves nonstop media coverage and i understand that in turn has sandusky scandal has really been shaking the penn state world but even that is less of a commentary on our society overall as occupy wall street and the only mainstream media outlet they decided to give a minute or two to it today was c.n.n. . protesters across the country showed they're not giving up on occupy wall street they swarm streets stopped traffic in tangled with officers on the chin live in verse three of the anti greed movement more than two hundred people were arrested in new york police say they threw some kind of object and police officers prompting them to come in and arrest him these guys have been out here a couple dozen diehard protesters all night trying to stay warm they've been

passing out hand warmers they're not allowed to bring in big blankets one thing's for sure this movement is still a very much alive out here in zuccotti park. so here we are again the two month anniversary is past hundreds of people aren't getting arrested nationwide today and so let's just pretend like that's discontent with our political system no longer exists let's pretend like inequality and corruption are rampant in our society let's pretend like the entire economic crisis from unemployment to foreclosure is the debt has all been solved let's pretend like crony capitalism legal immunity for the one percent are shadows to hang over us every day yeah the mainstream media has already moved on to the other clearly more important stories of the day all out of the stuff well they figure to give it one day of coverage and they've done their part and from now on they can continue to.

laughter yesterday's day of action by the occupy movement for a lot of questions arising as to whether tactics are beginning to outshine the message to take for example resources all it's from public policy polling over the last month support for the occupy movement is remains stable dropping only slightly from thirty five to thirty three percent where we saw the bigger change was in disapproval which went up eleven percentage points from thirty six to forty five but this could also be because familiarity with the movement is on the rise as the percentage of those that are not sure how they felt about occupy wall street trunk for. twenty nine to twenty two percent so those that have supported the message and the movement or maybe those who had no thoughts are starting to firm up and it might be based on the type of media coverage that we've been seeing clashes with police reports of crime as well as blocking the port of oakland or attempting to destroy the new york stock exchange what's portrayed in the media and by city officials are usually the negatives and the destructions and no longer the message so how do we compare this to other movements throughout history as perceived by the

public and how's the g.o.p. trying to use this against president obama or discuss with me is james pullos host of the bottom line and reform school on p. and t. the james thanks so much for being here tonight for us i think it's been a while since you and i have caught up on our feelings about occupy wall street so i'm just curious now if this coup month mark has passed what do you think in terms of how it's developed how it's progressing well i think this is an inflection point here on the one hand it's true that people have sort of affiliated with the message of occupy wall street they've kept it rather vague which i think was working to their advantage for a while but now that you know now that the encampments have moved out into the streets now that we're seeing is not you know the new york stock exchange is very different from wall street wall street is kind of the substraction that everyone wants to shake their fist you know stock exchange lost people in stock it's a totally different beast in the way in which the movement has metastasized and changes approach i think is revealing that it's got a lot more of a sort of radical rooting been many americans are it was really a radical ruling or is it the fact that you what often happens is you see radical

elements that might start cracking on that might start just becoming a part of it because they want to and you can't say that the black blog has been behind occupy wall street from the very beginning you know they've been lying to riot this was meant to be a peaceful protest or just bring to light the fact that they feel like there's a lot of inequality in our society and in our it isn't fair it's now read not everybody has the same opportunities as they're supposed to do well that's right you know we there is still some peaceful demonstration going on which is agree totally you know commendable but there's also this chicken and egg problem where. you've got a very limited number of personal when it comes to who's a radical who's a community organizer and use no surprise that going to see the same people cropping up in this sort of environment as you would i mean look you acorn has been around for a long time discontent with the iraq war has been around for a long time the sort of boots on the ground community organizing radicals who have made a career out of this you know they're going to be present in this environment as much as they wouldn't any other and i think the occupy crowd has a real choice to make going forward as to whether or not they're going to try and

specify their message a little bit and organize around a policy that americans can agree with in general or whether they're going to let the message run away from them but what i mean by policy right is that this is part of the problem with the occupy movement is this general idea of ninety nine percent versus one percent inequality unfairness everything that i just laid out that seems pretty basic and that seems pretty obvious to me but policy is where i think that everybody has lost is exactly what is occupy wall street want to do going forward they don't want to work within the political system they don't want to go out and vote because the entire system is already messed up and rig and they feel like that it needs a complete reconfiguration so what exactly in terms of policy do you want to see well you know i think that if they came out and said hey the government needs to break up the big banks i think you know whether you like that policy or you don't like it that's at least something that you can sort of hang a hat on and say ok this is something concrete we can talk about that if you would do it if you had was you know you could you look at some of the little some of the web sites right they do have websites where they have specific demands like this and they want to talk about overturning citizens united they want to talk about

breaking up some of the banks i mean there are ideas out there specifics the problem is that the movement is fragmented and you've got a lot of different sort of closet manifestos and would be manifestos coming out of different parts of the occupy movement scattered across the country you've got you know people in portland it also who are willing to take things to a much more militant or more violent point then than occupiers in some other parts of the country and the tea party didn't have this problem right the tea party coalesce around a few key issues they kept things peaceable a few people brought guns right to various relatives they never went on. everyone is fine in this is a hurdle that i think i'm going to have a hard time clearing when it comes to public opinion there is some support vaguely for the idea that big business and big government together equals you know the little guy gets screwed but beyond that when you start getting specifics it's going to be a hard road but i mean then again you can look at the tea party and what it's become now and we're going to a story on this later on tonight shows that the fifteen members of congress that were elected on this wave of where the tea party were going fight against pressure

interests they're just doing the same damn thing they're taking the same money from defense contractors and the bankers associations and so this is exactly what you don't want to happen or at least what occupy wall street doesn't want to have and i want to go on to ask you in terms of public perception and how you think that it's shaped i just mentioned this poll those that support the message are still pretty much the parting the message other people are starting from ups and thoughts and do you think that media coverage of the way city officials want to portray it has something to do with it you can't deny there is some clear bias when there blueberry yesterday comes out doesn't have a single word about the violence that police are using against protesters about the fact that journalists are getting roughed up and arrested and then goes and visits one police officer who unfortunately ended up in the hospital well because both ways bloomberg has been under pressure from the right and from others business interests local business owners to to actually take some kind of action which he hasn't done for a period of i think months you know it's been weeks and leading into months and people have said you know bloomberg you need to do something so when he finally decides ok i'm going to do something because i'm facing this kind of pressure this is what he does you know it is all very clinical and tidy which is the word unleash

the troops on the radio you would beat everyone oh i know you go over the scenario here is that what we see on the media is jack boots versus jack asses and it polarizes the american people and they say either i'm for the truncheon or i'm for the drum circles and that's the wrong way as this always happened right if you look back to the vietnam era protesters public perception also didn't like that there's a poll from one hundred sixty that if you look at it they were asked to put him on a scale of one to one hundred and they got zero if you look at the civil rights movement public opinion polls at that point also didn't like the movement made up its citizens were going to help in. people in a society so how much of public opinion matter that sometimes it's not what about the public not about what the public thinks but about what we need as a country well public opinion is important but i think the hinge for americans is are they breaking the law or are they deliberately heading into a confrontation with police and you know my libertarian friends many of them were on the side of occupy when they came to me when push came to shove with police and you start to see tear gas canisters flying through the air and if you want because

you don't always need to resort to tear gas canisters and flash grenades and beating on the other hand when you only know you are when you are blockading ports when you're preventing ordinary citizens from getting to and from their place of business those kinds of things are tremendously polarizing they will not win. whether it's wall street or anyone else any any public support or it will not get them any favors and that's just going to insert a switch over into people saying hey this is about law and order it's not about the right approach is agitating people really quickly how many times you wrote about line order and how you think that the g.o.p. is going to start to try to use this against obama even though the movement is separate from obama elaborate on that really quick oh yeah just quickly and you know we mentioned the tea partiers in congress i think if you stack up their record against these guys you'll see that there is a real difference there but even the guys who are tea partiers in congress. movement like this takes time it takes sometimes a decade or more to get real results and so the frustration that i think republicans are are seeing who don't like the establishment they're casting about for a way to say what is the issue that we want to hang this election on and i think increasingly

if occupy continues to spiral toward more common violence across the country it's going to be longer we'll see we'll see you know i really wonder about by considering what we've seen going on across the world really and europe and the arab spring i think to be interesting to see what people find that sense again thanks so much for joining us thank you. i was next on tonight's show speaking of tea party candidates they swore they wouldn't become a part of the system and listen to special interests and lobbyists here you see but are those tea partiers really acting any differently now they've been elected and reports are showing if the supercommittee is likely to fail its one task to come to an agreement on where to find savings but a group of occupiers has come up with their own solution to the deficit was sold over the top a senator. on . the police when he. was

a protester nobody seems to know. but never pepper sprayed the face but more of the argument that they're being overly dramatic. you know sometimes you see a story and. you think you understand it and then you know here's the part of it and realize that everything. i'm charging is a big. blow

to the counseling i'm learning mr. all right so tonight i'm bringing you some shocking breaking news straight from the

capitol turns out the tea party freshmen are just like everyone else yeah you heard me correct me if they've seen super special freshman tea party congress members who were elected in a way of disgust with washington over the influence of special interests well it turns out that they've had a little change of heart since their arrival here here where all the angry rhetoric against the bailouts against special interest groups well they're over that now i ought to collecting boatloads of special interest money just like the rest of their congressional colleagues. sort of brushed classic tea party congressmen collected a cool three point five million dollars in their first nine months in congress you might say hey i'm so bad maybe they collected that money from small donors after all the tea parties grassroots right well it joins analysis by i watch news and the center for responsive politics found that it's not really the case if you've already fifteen freshman collected about forty four percent of their money from pacs forty three percent from large individual donors and just four percent from small donors who gave less than two hundred dollars so how does that compare to your average republican congressman well they got forty six percent of their money from pacs forty five percent for large individual donors and four percent from

small donors who gave less than two hundred dollars so yeah you heard me correctly tea party congress members in the republican congress members almost the exact same breakdown of donations almost ninety percent coming from paterson large donors so the whole grassroots thing this really seem to be working out any better for the tea party than it is for the republican party as a whole but let's dive in a little bit deeper let's look at who these paths are really give these congress members the benefit of the doubt maybe they're getting money from cops with a noble cause so topping off the list with the most donations to tea party freshman is honeywell international company known for its defense products next is the american bankers association which is particularly interesting considering that one of the central narratives of the tea party is that it was anti bailout so i wonder how that squares away with one of the major trade associations for the banking sector and coming in third yet another defense contractor lockheed martin and fourth of course infamous koch industries which is to be expected and finally the

national association of realtors so the tea party is being largely funded by defense contractors and banking association and the billionaire brothers really sounds like they're standing up against the status quo in washington they're fighting the military industrial complex which has pushed us into unnecessary wars saddled us with excessive military spending and debt and they're fighting bankers that have taken bailouts of the american people oh wait. they're not doing that at all they're just like every other member of congress in washington taking money from special interests to do their bidding so i think that there is a lesson to be learned here for all the people who are arguing that occupy wall street should follow in the footsteps of the tea party and go to washington i say be wary because the tea party ever really did have a goal fighting special interest and they seem to have very quickly lost touch with that sentiment during their move to the nation's capital so hard by wall street take heed and keep fighting the good fight outside of washington. now next wednesday is the deadline for the congressional super committee to finalize

its deal on how to find one point two trillion dollars minimum and deficit savings if you consider the fact that a bill needs to be submitted to the congressional budget office for scoring by monday and that's it is friday and the picture becomes pretty clear all things considered including members of the committee are saying themselves it looks like it's going to fail but i guess we could have seen that one coming as not only do some people want it to fail but also the idea of a twelve members super group being super lobbied really coming to a compromise and one that's the best option for the wellbeing of the country as a whole rather than special interest well all that kind of seems like a distant dream in today's political environment so let's take a look at something that one occupation in the country is offering up those camping out at freedom plaza have now created their own deficit proposal the ninety nine percent deficit proposal as they're calling it so joining me to discuss it is kevin zeese an organizer of occupy washington d.c. head and thanks so much for joining us tonight. looks like the super committee is

geared to fail are you shocked. i'm not shocked at all thank you previous story the tea party donors you could make the same list for the donors to the super committee it's there primarily and the military contracts the health industry and on top of course is wall street and their start paralyzed now they can argue what the people want they can't go against their funders and so you not because you're an economic community even though the reality is this deficit problem can solvable in this economy going is solvable because the congress represents the one percent are not going to do what's needed for the ninety nine percent and what do you think of the fact that you know if it does fail on one hand you have factions that are i guess you could say farther to the left and farther to the right that we're actually looking forward to that because that for the left you would actually see six hundred billion dollars cut away from defense spending and it would be equal rather than something that with the you know very tells it in the scales if the super committee did come up with a deal well i'll tell you i think the no deal is better than deal and from the

leaks we've heard from the super aguri which i think we should start using that word as always is not a surprise to me as we were just watching the committee is dysfunctional clearly we're going to come out with it is going to be worse than the are you arrange deal when i can tell you there's to be such intense lobbying from the health industry in from the military industrial complex but i'm very surprised to see those actual constant values we back to square one again and actually dysfunctional government sold out to the wealthiest and it will do the most necessary terrorists regular music doing that's why we're not looking for little reforms well as a result people in the occupy movement are looking for radical transformation another this sold out government right so now let's get into this proposal that i was born over in freedom plaza just a couple of blocks away from here i'm curious you have your own the ninety five percent staff as a proposal but why are you focusing on deficit reduction. well you actually don't i was and there was a reduction we actually focus on a fear charity system we're getting more progressive so that we can minimize. the

whole point here at the end of the day we're going to get into exactly how you break it down is you sell it as a way to also help reduce the country's deficit that you say have been brought up through i don't fair tax system through excessive spending on wars and military bases abroad and the like exactly absolutely what we say is going to fix the economy in order to fix the deficit and then we don't start we don't get a deficit reduction is the focus the focus these are your own creator and in america's economic and security stop wasting money on endless wars and start going to work in europe with very little taxes all right so let's break it down in terms of what exactly is in this plan when it comes to taxes and what you'd like to see changed. well if you look at the right now that. we are used to careers of terrorists in the one nine hundred fifty s. now you have a much higher capital gains or actually very much higher income tax in the world the up to ninety one percent as recently as the reagan years we had

a seventy percent top bracket now we see. a lot of complicated thirty five percent we should have four hundred wealthiest americans in the country we have the wealth of one hundred fifty four million of those being only seventeen point four percent in taxes while working americans pay twenty five to thirty percent it's unfair and if you face a little problem you can just by doing that along by facing up to the character gains in comparison fairness you solve the deficit problem and then you have money to put into actually building up the economy creating jobs or checking the social safety net as it was you know another one of the elements here you say cutting spending for economic security which includes cutting defense spending which you know our new secretary of defense leon panetta keeps going around every everywhere telling people that is of a doomsday scenario if the trigger effect were to go in but it's not really about america's defense and that would be in jeopardy as if it's about america's role that wants to play in the world the fact that we don't just defend ourselves we

really like to extend our branch everywhere. we have to stop using the word defense it's military spending it's weapons spending it's war spending it's not defense spending and we spend as much as the whole world combined on weapons in war and it doesn't make us more secure in fact it makes us less secure because they root cause so while you can it is a work for most americans when a place up to military cuts when you may face up to why we spend as much of the whole world we can harm military budget have and still be the biggest spender on earth as far as weapons of war goes we don't need that even in the military doesn't access on the weapons that congress gives money for even they want to spend less leon panetta of course but aside from the support of appointee playable of the game by his side that the experts in the military say there are there's a lot of room for cuts that's right and that many experts i've spoken to and you know have been here on the program say the exact same thing so let's hear about your jobs plan president obama laid out his own jobs plan how does one different

the president obama's more rhetorical game with the republicans it was anemic job supposedly it would not solve the jobs crisis at all or are just playing with a major public works plan the fact is that's what's worked in the past we cannot rely on private enterprise private markets to create new jobs they're hoarding their money waiting for the coming to prove a way to create the get the economy going and create jobs and create millions of jobs as a public works program and we desperately need it our infrastructure is dying and the the experts say we have a d.c. level grade for infrastructure and if we allow that to happen if there really undermine our economy further we have to start early and have work to do as it went out when it's done the work on the money for work that's necessary to do we have a lot of needs this country with are not being met now what do you mean another part when you say democratizing the economy. i mean changing the economy so that people actually have an influence over you want to see us move away from for

example corporate welfare to taxpayer investment so taxpayers invest in the economy and peace and businesses prosper from that part of that profit will go into a fund where taxpayers will actually benefit receive money from it if we're investors we should profit this is not welfare for the big business interests any longer be in n.m. and so we want to see a market as a currently where workers are more in charge of their employment more employee owned businesses more employer own co-ops we want to see the big banks broken up so money goes back to the local community rather to the wall street so you have community banks and credit unions where where the money stays in the local community and if there's local needs all these kinds of steps as a whole series of them that we can take to do to give people more control over the economy really we cannot democratize our government and that's really going to democratize the economy and give people some power in their own lives and their own

economic way as well as more important over the direction the economy is going i think kerry about how was that this report that you put together was that was decided on by the general assembly you know you mentioned that this is not represent the entire occupy movement it doesn't even represent everyone who's that freedom plaza right now and so i think again it's a lot of the problem with how do you get something that everyone agrees on. all we did was we actually had a hearing about a week ago we were brought in to happen as an experts on key issues we allowed the ninety nine percent to speak as well as we had all that information to bring together to help you create this report and we do as we said to be accomplice and we want to end up where we want to end up is in a situation where money no longer rules government where the people will government and so every policy choice we make has that as its compas point when you find it as your compas point things really form the place if you go to our web site occupy washington d.c. dot org and you look up this soup to me report you can also see the hearing that

was played on c.-span so you were people were saying you know also see the full report and recognize that what we're doing is consistent with majority of americans want on the front page where our website we have an article about we stand with the majority and that's a series of polls on seven key issues and what this report is especially put those seven key issues were super majorities americans already agree it puts those seven key issues into reality this is going to look like if we did with the american people say they want in the polling around the united states and so i think in many respects this is really the people's budget compared to what we see up in the and capitol which is the least budget is the people versus the elite. you have like like by the fact that most of that's why i closed doors i hear you have it all sound like kevin thank you so much for joining us tonight azure me on. now coming up next house member who allegedly engaged in questionable insider trading practices is now in charge of a hearing to decide if legislation is needed to curb those options for the plane to

explain that fateful times like this and that is there is a war on voting that is seven states are working on changing their current voting laws making the requirements more straight some ways more expensive so that's something the house judiciary committee should be investigated and the steepest walk easily returned. to the police. but what a protest nobody seems to know. but never a pepper sprayed the face but part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic.