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well the back here with our team here is we're going to top stories at least thirteen people were killed and more than a thousand injured as security forces launched a major assault on protesters in cairo stuff for years where been demonstrating since friday violence has returned to the country with tear gas and rubber bullets answering to protesters calls for an end to military rule. as conservatives in spain celebrate a landslide victory in national elections many people on the streets so fear of the new government won't be able to save the country step britain economy. the number
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of convictions for theft and fraud during the military campaigns in iraq and afghanistan hits a record high as billions of dollars are reportedly wasted in stone as u.s. troops gear up to leave iraq those responsible for the missing money are still walking free. that's where the top stories here in our team now american counterterrorism expert david gardner tells our team why he thinks the u.s. is actually losing the war on terror and why washington's policies in the fight against terror are misdirected his interviews coming right up. america's war on terror has been going on for ten years now and there seems to be no end in sight some experts think there is to actually reading about war i'm joined by counterterrorism expert david gardens in ross the man who wrote a book titled bin laden's legacy why we're still losing the war on terror why it's
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a great thing i mean your whole doc is about to just give us some key points about why you think the u.s. is losing the war on terror i think the main thing to look at is the u.s. is capacity to stop terrorist attacks as well as spares its resilience in the face of an attack compared with the enemy's ability to strike the problem isn't that al qaeda has become more potent it's not clear it up has been significantly weakened but it's not clear it's become more potent the problems of the united states has been significantly eroded over the course of the past decade the economy is of course in shambles with a massive national debt now not all of that is by any means attributable to the fight against al qaeda but more of it is that a lot of people realize including the massive cost of the iraq war the way that the instability that was spurred by that helps drive up oil prices the national debt as well as direct budgetary outlays and the opportunity costs the ability after the economy crashed in two thousand and eight to deliver another stimulus package
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because a lot of this wanted already been spent when you look at all of that and we look at how does call of economically undermine the united states i think it conclusion is not that there are that they've destroyed america but it did more effective in underbody their enemies a kind of be that a lot of people would like to believe well you're saying the terrorists have defined their strategy is bleeding the united states to bankruptcy and they have some claim it's succeeded in many ways let's talk money a little bit more why do you think the decade long fight against terror has been such a blow for the americans i think that would be looks at the return on the investment it's not a great return on investment a lot of the counterterrorism apparatus. policies have been distracted not totally i mean i think that doing nothing is also not an option but the key error was the war in iraq which end up diverting resources away from afghanistan cost of an enormous amount of money it's was pretty us standing in the world beyond that
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the counterterrorism apparatus that had been erected is a very inefficient. there are so many different secret programs and so many different cooks in the kitchen it's difficult to have any one individual who can determine that there's not duplicated effort this also means that not only our office there's a few iraq war but also our defenses are expensive i think this is a design that can be fixed which is exactly what this is a clarion call for that we need to understand the situation that we're in and move beyond it you know what comes to mind is. the soviet union the war in afghanistan has. it so badly back in the eighty's that you know it very much contributed to its collapse any lessons to be learned with this is a lesson that could not have put it to a multiple occasions osama bin laden had been part of the anti soviet resistance originally as a humanitarian worker in pakistan and then eventually went to the battlefield and
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got so caught up by that he ended up leading a team of arabs who fought against the soviets inside of afghanistan now they were pretty incidental to the fight there were far more afghans there were arabs any given point inside of afghanistan fighting the soviets but to this was kind of the heritage not that it failed of how you beat a superpower of a training that the afghan soviet war brought down the soviet union i think it's not entirely clear historically that it did especially if you get it i mean it's it's not entirely clear what kind of imagine has. historians have mixed views on this given that the sixty afghan war cost about three billion dollars i would want to accept the loss of oil export money as well as grain shortages with. the annual price tag on those far towards the afghan soviet war if the afghan soviet
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war was a significant contributor precisely by a grand to get down in that one theater and just make good and evil for the soviet union to adapt to other crises that if so i think there are definitely lessons of initial question in the first instance because this is precisely how did you just fight against the united states which means that when when your enemy is so intent on grinding down your economy one thing you have to do is make sure that you don't fall into that trap and the second lesson is that even if expenditure isn't a massive part of your budget it can have an impact and as i said the impact of the efforts of it where i found to be historically if i were to be a historical question mark but what is indisputable is it certainly didn't help his soviet union and the amount of money that the u.s. has spent over all of the war on terror. even when adjusted for inflation is is
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much more in terms of sheer quantity. spent in afghanistan ok let's take america's other words the ones that had nothing to do with nine eleven of course i'm talking about iraq first of all why spend so much money there is that it was worth this whole range that it doesn't know how else will spend the money or the thing with expect that the words will eventually pay off i don't think there is an expectation that there be a monetary gain from the war so i don't think that these are words of avarice rather i think that the u.s. quite simply addressed a bit of what was going to happen when one looks at the lead up to the iraq war and very good vibe that there could have been political spin to try to make it more so . well to the public but when one looks at the leader the estimates given for how much it would cost were rather low and estimates you had officials talking about how the reconstruction of iraq could pay for itself that iraq could sell oil on the market they could justify any of the road reconstruction so. i think that people
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just didn't. foresee what ended up happening in terms of this massive insurgency taking hold it's the law of unintended consequences that particularly would you have an enemy in a certain area you have to be wary that whatever action indicating in another theater it was specially one that could have been attacked attracting jihadi which was known in advance that that could end up snowballing and end up backfire against you and that's what happened in iraq ok let's take another campaign related to terrorism those those who were in any way contribute to draining the u.s. economically or is it just the war on terror that they're doing i believe that libya does quite obviously i think actually it's not it in my view as someone who had opposed the libya intervention from the outset i think it's actually much worse because in fighting against terrorism at least you're fighting against people who
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are trying to destroy the country and to kill american citizens whereas in libya it was entirely based on a humanitarian intervention now there are different views of liberal humanitarian intervention but i think that given the economic context that we have in an era of severe austerity we need to be very hesitant about undertaking such an operation particularly given as i said before the law of unintended consequences when one looks at the situation in libya prior to the beginning of the veto campaign in my view there was almost no strategic interest at play because moammar gadhafi was not supporting terrorist groups. market off he was not giving up his weapons of mass destruction program this doesn't mean that i am. sad to see him go he was a terrible ruler he was a brutal dictator and he certainly would have killed a lot of people. probably would have killed far more people had not started bombing
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the country but to me one of the sad reality is the twenty first century is that there will be humanitarian very souse that the international community is powerless to do anything about and you know in six months or a year we'll have a much better idea of how from a strategic interest perspective the intervention in libya has gone you have already concerns that some jihadi native got their hands on surface to air missiles as part of khadafi his arsenal you have certainly concerns about violent islamists being able to leave prison during the chaos and there's the possibility that khadafi loyalists will be able to knock the insurgency all of which you know a year from now could make what's going on look a lot worse in retrospect i hope that doesn't happen but i certainly am concerned and our recent history doesn't really bear out that we're very good at cleaning things up toppling the regime the left is quite clear is always the easy part back to the fight against extremists in your book you suggest ways to build resilience
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among americans to you know faith possible attacks. without overreacting can you expand a little bit on that and what ways are you suggesting resilience is particularly important but it serves multiple purposes not just defending its terrorism but you know we just have been beset by multiple natural disasters including a hurricane an earthquake and the like you one thing i put forward that would help to build resilience is basically in incorporating individual citizens into how. the community or a state would react to a terrorist attack or to have actual disaster. there's a community of emergency response team model in phoenix arizona but i think it is particularly good disregard this is something that helps citizens to be less afraid and also to feel like if something goes wrong they can play a role i think it's important to build not just. resilience in terms of
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infrastructure but also psychological resilience so that we're not sitting here afraid of what happens but we understand that if something bad happens we can play a role in fixing it and it terms of how big fellow citizens i think that without going to war without waging wars another country the first of all war is sometimes necessary often not i think that for example in afghanistan. you know the the united states had to dislodge the taliban regime that was supporting al qaeda giving them sanctuary the iraq war obviously i don't agree with nor the word libya so so resilience is not something that becomes the end all and deal but i think it is it's an important part of what we do in the twenty first century because you're not going to there's no guarantee that terrorism can never strike thank you you thank
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least thirteen people are killed and more than a thousand injured as security forces launch a major assault on protesters in cairo's tahrir square who have been demonstrating since friday violence has returned to the country with tear gas and rubber bullets answering the protesters call for an end to military rule. conservatives in spain celebrate a landslide victory in national elections but will have a tough job ahead tapping the highest jobless rate in the eurozone and people on the street still fear of the new government long be able to save the country's debt ridden economy. the number of convictions for theft and fraud during the military campaigns in iraq and afghanistan hits
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a record high as billions of dollars are reportedly wasted and storm when asked u.s. troops gear up to leave iraq those responsible for the missing money are still walking free. as we have eyes here in our show that at the top of the hour with more at the in the meantime let's take a look at what's happening in the world of sports with. a lot of good morning to you watching the sports on these other headlines the last emperor turns russia's mixed martial skiing feud or you name care dismisses talk of retirement beating american jeff monson in moscow. plus on the double in many cases bracy start blocking motif so you know we had to go see the russian tell you leave . a winning start defending champion federer nadal get i mean victories the end of season will tour finals get underway. but first russian mixed martial arts
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legend theodore you male yang pass has that to carry on fighting off to claim his first victory in full bands at thirty five year old russians nearly unanimous decision ivan merican jeff nonsense and a heavyweight fight here in moscow and could not be in line for him a rematch with. roman culture and as this report the first round sanction probably made it's really two thousand in attendance believe this quite well and it would a knock out any million go paper that is however the battle tested veteran jeff monson who by the way has never lost by way of a k o kept getting up each time the last emperor sent him to the canvas to everyone's surprise unity and god did not pursue monson on the ground even once inviting the american to fight standing up perhaps that was the only strategy that could have worked against the forty year old submission expert as the ballast when they entire distance all three five
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minute rounds. i didn't want to take any risks because jeff is a very courageous and difficult fighter i wasn't planning on finishing off on the ground because i knew how dangerous he is there and he could have taken advantage of i made the slightest mistake i worked very hard on making sure that i stand off doesn't end up in ground wrestling one removed and the result would have been very different this was email getting close first ever m.m.a. experience in moscow was certainly please the local crowd however there was once an attendance a martial arts expert himself who probably doesn't say defeats lightly but the russian prime minister vladimir putin had no reason to be upset on the night as he and the rest of the sold out to leave the kareena witnessed the return of the last emperor. the fight had to stop that one points as jeff mawson's face was bleeding profusely after he took several punches from fielder although the american
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grappling specialist managed to continue the fight it was already obvious that he was badly hurt and that was evident in the aftermath of this bout when jeff monson had to be helped by his crew as he was leaving their arena but hillary million it was all smiles as you probably knew that his return to the summits of mixed martial arts is just around the corner his next fight is in the halves of his manager and and one global president but dean pinkel stein. we would be happy to arrange a rematch with her briefly over to him and other opponents and we're working on that and hopefully it will happen soon i cannot tell you the exact date yet but you have to understand that fighters like for receive over them are under contract with other organizations who are not our partners but times are changing and who knows perhaps we will get that opportunity. whoever fillers next opponents might be and where ever that bad takes place it's already destined to be at celtic
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a draw and it's safe to say that you know the ne goes next appearance is highly anticipated not only here in russia but across the atlantic as well room on cost artie must go. the football now and a manual i mean i mean in case scored a first half price is spot. to nail in the moscow darby at the luzhniki stadion and nigeria striker who scored a hat trick in the last encounter between the two also opened this time for twenty six minutes and then doubled his tally with a minute to go before the interval and to know how it finished but had leap frogged a lock a into fourth in the championship three. alexander kerkorian school what proved to be the winner as the number moscow kept up the pressure on the top two with a two one home win a but could ban because some show opened for the home side there after eighteen minutes in court in that the second eight minutes later and just before the roma pulled a go back for damage tress the side with
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a speculative shot there the banks funding the goalkeeper bit to one have finished a ban stay seventh while the nominee remained but moved to within a point of second place. and in the last game of the day roman adam of school twice a second place rough stuff came back to beat nine man tom three one it destroyed perhaps partially so red after fifteen minutes despite this maksim community called swifty put up in the penalty spot but a second yellow card just after the break meant to meet three nicotine skate also went off tom then down to nine men and three minutes within three minutes the rest of the self go to the spot kick and adam off the board away to make it one one. then with twenty minutes to go the calcutta police made it see one to the home side and adam was late strikes at the flying school three one eight points from safety.
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now i bring glen johnson scored a late were against his former club as liverpool one to want to chelsea to go six in the premier league that the reds had the better of the first half of next year old regas slotting in after thirty three minutes chelsea improved after daniel sturridge came on after the break in his singing father please level but with three minutes of normal time left johnson. after a fine solo run the feat increases the pressure on three sports under its heathrow as well as his fourth league defeat in twelve games not taking sides for points behind leaders manchester city well it is early days but there is growing speculation dutchman gives healing could end up with some sort of role in chelsea the former in russia coach told r.t. yesterday he's looking for a move back into the game and although he took glowingly about the emergence of russian side and she is a force in football dutch journalist chelsea is the more likely option but what i know is that rivals go for they were
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a very good period in england the moment i do enjoy it very much a living being so. you have still see there's a lot to do a chelsea i think. to redevelop the team and that's i think that's. something he likes very much to do i think if abramovich wants him to do wants him to work for him i think he won't he will do it. tennis roger federer and rafael nadal have got off the winning starts at the end of season worlds or finals in london although both hands are work harder federer the defending champion needing three sets to get past french media will free to tsonga the swiss was on a twelve game winning streak coming into this tournament and took the first set sixty wife and friend theory on rate enjoying it so far but to tsonga he's up to six in the world rankings then stormed back to take the next step by the same scoreline. and there was little between them in the decider but
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tsonga stumbled on his serve at five four down and federer to constituents i. once got the upper hand in the second set to sort of swing more freely and it got more dangerous. which me was just. trying to stick it away from a chance to create chances when it was not serving as well as it did at times that i was going to take those chances and hopefully come through to victory which it will. except that we hope to be told it's the world's best eight plays against each other and world number two rafael nadal was up against mardy fish in sunday's other match and doubt he was recovering from a stomach bug at the first set here six two. but then stayed on the baseline in the second and think i took the initiative his attacking style paying off to take that six three.
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and so it went to another decider which then went to a tiebreaker dalla benchley winning this one seven three by the start of the two into the round robin for my. place from which place qualify for the semifinals of monday's matches will see world number one about djokovic play times that it and andy murray take on a rare. thing go off guard know roy has got his first win on the european tour winning the alfred dunhill championship in his native south africa the thirty three year old from durban started the final round two shots ahead of the field his biggest in scotland george murray here but after a memorable birdie at the eighth he drew level with no roi on the fifteenth but the south african regained the advantage on the next hole with a beautifully judged for birdie just pops in and by the time he reached the eighteenth he just needed to sink this
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putt for par for victory which he did to claim his maiden european top title. presidents cup went to the americans for a fourth time in a row jim furyk maintained his one hundred percent record with a four three win over ernie els and sunday singles and that moved the americans to the brink of retaining the cup wildcard pick tiger woods then clinched the vital point by easily beating local favorite aaron baddeley with a four and three victory and self pass the all the way into the usa giving them the eighteen points they needed to lift the clock for a fourth straight time. so it's all the sport for the moment more.
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