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markets. find out what's really happening to the global economy for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to cause a report. put back you're watching r t here's a look at the top stories at least thirteen people are killed and more than a thousand injured at security forces launching a major assault on protesters in cairo's tahrir square demonstrators have been calling for an answer to military rule since friday. as conservatives in spain celebrate a landslide victory in national elections many people on the streets still fear the new government won't be able to save the country's debt ridden economy. the number of troops convictions for a fair jury and u.s.
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military campaigns in iraq and afghanistan hits a record high as billions of dollars are reportedly wasted stolen but those behind the majority of it are still walking free. now american counterterrorism expert david gardner john ross tells you why he thinks the u.s. is actually losing the war on terror and why washington's policies in the fight against terrorism are misdirected his interview is coming right up. america's war on terrorism going on for ten years now there seems to be no end in sight some experts think terrorists are actually winning that world i'm joined by counterterrorism expert at the gardens in ross the man who wrote a book titled bin laden's legacy why we're still losing the war on terror why it's a great thing i mean you're holed up about it just give us some key points about why you think the u.s. is losing the war on terror i think the main thing to look at is the u.s.
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is capacity to stop terrorist attacks as well as its resilience in the face of an attack compared with the enemy's ability to strike the problem isn't that al qaeda has become more potent it's not clear that arc has been significantly weakened but it's not clear it's become more potent the problem is that the united states has been significantly eroded over the course of the past decade the economy is of course in shambles with a massive national debt now not all of that is made in the means attributable to the fight against al qaeda but more of it is that a lot of people realize including the massive cost of the iraq war the way that the instability that was spurred by that helps drive up oil prices the national debt as well as direct budgetary outlays and then the opportunity costs the ability after the economy crashed in two thousand and eight to deliver another stimulus package because a lot of this money had already been spent when you look at all of that and we look at his call of economically underbody beat out of states i think the conclusion is
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not that there are that they've destroyed america but it's a bit more effective underbody the revenues are kind of new that a lot of people would like to believe well you're saying the terrorists have defined their strategy is believing the united states to bankruptcy and they have some succeeded in many ways let's talk money a little bit more why do you think the decade long fight against terror has been such a blow for the americans i think that would win the looks. the return on the investment it's not a great return on investment a lot of the counterterrorism apparatus and policies have been distracted not totally i mean i think that doing nothing is also not an option but the key error was the war in iraq which end up diverting resources away from afghanistan cost of an enormous amount of money as well as pretty good us a standing in the world beyond that the counterterrorism apparatus that had been erected is a very inefficient one there are so many different secret programs set so many
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different cooks in the kitchen that it's difficult to have any one individual who can determine that there's not duplicated effort this also means that not only are offered the iraq war but also our defenses are expensive i think this is a design that can be fixed which is exactly what this is a clarion call for that we need to understand the situation that we're in it and move beyond it you know what comes to mind is. the soviet union the war in afghanistan has who were in it so badly back in the eighty's there you know we very much contributed lapsing lessons to be learned well this is a lesson that did not and put it to a multiple occasions osama bin laden had been part of the resistance originally as a humanitarian worker in pakistan in bed he eventually went to the battlefield and got so caught up by that he ended up leading a team of arabs who fought against the soviets inside of afghanistan now they were
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pretty incidental to the fight there were far more afghans there were arabs at any given point inside of afghanistan fighting the soviets but you too this was kind of the parody that it failed of how you beat a superpower by training. the afghan soviet war brought down the soviet union i think it's not entirely clear historically that it did. especially if you did get it it's it's not entirely clear what kind of good bad it has historians have mixed views of this given that you're by nature to six the afghan war cost about three billion dollars i would want to accept the loss of oil export money as well as shortages within the soviet union and you will price tag but those far do worth the after observing it war but if the afghan soviet war was a significant contributor it was precisely by the ground to get down in that one theater and thus making it an evil for the soviet union to adapt to other crises
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that if they so i think there are definitely lessons image a lesson in the first instance because this is precisely how did you decide against the united states which means that wouldn't when your enemy is so intent on grinding down your economy one thing you have to do is make sure that you don't fall into that trap and a second lesson is that even if it expenditure isn't a massive part of your budget it can have it perhaps as i said the impact of the efforts of it where i find to be historically. i further to be a historical question mark but what is indisputable is it certainly didn't help the soviet union and the amount of money that the us has spent over all of the war on terror. even when adjusted for inflation is because much more. sheer quantity.
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in afghanistan ok let's look americas are the worst ones that had nothing to do with nine eleven of course i'm talking about iraq first of all why spend so much money there is it because this rage that it doesn't know how else will spend the money or the three us expect that the wars will eventually pay off i don't think there is an expectation that there be a monetary gain from the war so i don't think that these words of avarice rather i think that the us quite simply underestimated what was going to happen when the. at the lead up to the iraq war. very good that there could have been political spin to try to make it more saleable to the public but when one looks at the lead up the estimates given for how much it would cost were rather low and estimates you had officials talking about how the reconstruction of iraq could pay for itself that iraq could sell oil on the market they could have still rode reconstruction so it is i think that people just didn't. foresee what ended up happening in terms of
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this massive insurgency taking hold it's the law of unintended consequences that particularly when you have an enemy in a certain area you have to be wary that whatever action is needed taking in other theaters especially one that could have to protect attracting jihad which was noted in advance that could end up snowballing and end up backfire against you and that's what happened in iraq ok let's take media another campaign and really who care isn't because in any way contribute to graining the u.s. economically or is it just the war on terror that they're doing i believe that libya does quite obviously i think actually it's not it in my view as someone who had opposed the libya intervention from the outset i think it's actually much worse because in fighting against terrorism at least you're fighting against people who are trying to destroy your country and kill american citizens whereas in libya it was entirely based on humanitarian intervention now there are different views of
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liberal humanitarian intervention but i think that given the economic context that we have in an era of severe austerity we need to be very hesitant about undertaking such an operation particularly given before the law of unintended consequences when one looks at the situation in libya prior to the beginning of the nato campaign in my view. there was almost no strategic interest at play because moammar gadhafi was not supporting terrorist groups more market off he was not. giving up his weapons of mass destruction program this doesn't mean that i'm. sad to see him go he was a terrible ruler he was a brutal dictator and he certainly would have killed a lot of people. probably would have killed far more people have not started bombing the country but to me one of the sad reality is the twenty first century is that there will be a humanitarian crisis that the international community is powerless to do anything
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about it and in six months or a year will have a much better idea of how from a strategic interest perspective the intervention in libya has gone you have already concerns that some of your hobbies may have got their hands on surface to air missiles as part of its arsenal you have certainly concerns about violent islamists being able to leave prison during the chaos and there's the possibility that could off the loyalists will be able to mount an insurgency all of which you know a year from now could make what's going on look a lot worse in retrospect i hope that doesn't happen but i certainly am concerned and our recent history doesn't really bear out that we're very good at cleaning things up toppling the regime the left is quite clear is always the easy part that you fight against extremists in your book you suggest ways to build resilience among americans to you know face possible that path. without overreacting can you
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spend a little bit on that but what ways are you suggesting resilience is particularly important when it serves multiple purposes not just defending against terrorism but you know we just have to be set by the natural disasters including the hurricane and earthquake and the like you one thing i put forward that would help to build resilience is basically incorporating individual citizens. into how. the community or a state would react to a terrorist attack or two of actual disaster there's a community of urgency response team model in phoenix arizona that i think is particularly good in this regard this is something that helps citizens to be less afraid and also to feel like if something goes wrong they can play a role i think it's important to build not just. resilience in terms of infrastructure but also psychological resilience so that we're not sitting here afraid of what happens but we understand that if something bad happens we can play
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a role in fixing it is it helping fellow citizens i think that without going to war without waging wars in other countries the first of all war is sometimes necessary but are not i think that for example in afghanistan. the united states had to dislodge the told her she and it was supporting al qaeda giving them sanctuary the iraq war obviously. don't you agree with the war in libya so so resilience is not something you become is the end all and p.r. but i think it is it's an important part of what we do in the twenty first century because we're not going to do is no guarantee that terrorism can never struck again thank you.
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with resorts might come. home riviera hotel would come cintra hotel because. at least thirteen people are killed and more than a thousand injured as security forces launch a major assault on protesters. where tennis. traders have been calling for an answer to military rule since friday. conservatives in spain celebrate a landslide victory in national elections but will have a tough job ahead tackling the highest jobless rate in the eurozone and people on the streets so fear of the new government won't be able to save the country's debt ridden economy. the number of troops convictions for a staff during u.s. military campaigns in iraq and afghanistan hits a record high as billions of dollars are reportedly wasted and stolen but those
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behind the majority of it are still walking free. sports thanks with andrew here with us in the studio and in the mixed martial arts is big in russia and there's been a satisfying way to yesterday for one of the country's greatest fighters. got a crucial win over an american rival in moscow yesterday he did it in front of the prime minister putin as well to end a run of three consecutive defeats after getting a decade without losing so easy a bit of a legend we've got the details in about. hello there thanks for watching the sport and this is what is coming up over the next few minutes the last emperor turns russia's mixed martial arts king feed or your meal your name care beat american monson in moscow dismissed talk of retirement. plus on
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the double any case for a cease fire might see the goals and the russians primarily. and winning start defending champion federer and nadal victories end of season world top finals get underway. but first mixed martial arts legend feud or you me again name care to carry on fighting after claiming his first victory in four banks the thirty five year old russian sealed a unanimous decision over american jeff monson in a heavyweight fight here in moscow and could now be in line for a rematch with a pretty. cost ref as this report. the first rounds of action probably made it forty two thousand in attendance believe that this fight well and with a knockout any million a favor that is however the battle tested veteran jeff monson who by the way has never lost by way of a k.-o. kept getting up each time the last emperor sent him to the canvas to everyone's surprise even the anchor did not pursue monson on the ground even once inviting the
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american to fight standing up perhaps that was the only strategy that could have worked against the forty year old submission expert as the ballots when they entire distance all three five minute rounds and. i didn't want to take any risks because jeff is a very courageous and difficult fight so i wasn't planning on finishing him off on the ground because i knew how dangerous he is that and he could have taken advantage if i might the scientists think i work very hard on making sure that i'll stand off doesn't end up in ground wrestling one wrong move and the result would be very different. this was you know getting close first ever and then they experience in moscow which certainly pleased the local crowd however there was one special fan in attendance and martial arts expert himself who probably doesn't say defeats lightly but the russian prime minister vladimir putin had no reason to be upset on the night as he and the rest of the sold out of the bickering now witnessed the
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return of the last and her. the fights have to be stopped at one point as jeff monson's face was bleeding profusely after he took several punches from the other although the american grappling specialist managed to continue the fight already obvious that he was badly hurt and that was evident in the aftermath of this bout when jeff monson had to be helped by his crew as he was leaving their arena but fillery a million in co was all smiles as he probably knew that his return to the summits of mixed martial arts is just around the corner. his next fight is in the hands of his manager and one global president but team finkelstein. we would be happy to arrange a rematch with her breezy over them and other opponents and we're working on that hopefully it will happen soon i cannot tell you the exact date yet but you have to understand that fighters like for a brief see over them are under contract with other organizations who are not our
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partners but times are changing and who knows perhaps we'll get an opportunity. whoever fielder is next opponents might be and were ever that bad takes place it's already destined to be at celtic a draw and it's safe to say that you know the any goes next appearance is highly anticipated not only here in russia but across the atlantic as well. r.t. in moscow. football and emanuel in many case scored a first half braces. safe to nail in the moscow darby and i didn't strike you scored a hat trick in the last encounter between the two sides also open this time for spartak after twenty six minutes and then doubled his tally with a minute to go before the interval and to deal with how it finished leap frogging locked into fourth in the championship group. alexander corporate installed what proved to be the winner as the nano moscow kept up the pressure on the top two with a two one home win over cabana century of open for home side there after eighteen
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minutes in coughlin netted the second eight minutes later i just before the. pull to go back down professional side with the speculative sure which banks and the banks there for the goalkeeper but to one finish could band stay seven while the nominee remain third but moved within a point of second place to sky. room one and a more scored twice a second place rostov came back to beat nine months one three one victory roy or perhaps harshly saw red after fifteen minutes despite this max in the nick of space and put someone up in the penalty spot. but a second yellow card just after the break meant dimitri we also went off so that and ten men and with three minutes i wouldn't three minutes rushed up themselves were awarded a spot kick and adam off took the ball away to make it one one then with twenty minutes to go papadopoulos. made it to one just after his penalty to the
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home side. and adam of the late strike settled upon school three one time in my points from safety. and i have an inkling glen johnson scored a late winner against his former club his little poor one two one at chelsea to go six in the premier league. the reds had the better of the first half of next year old regas slotting in after thirty three minutes chelsea improved after daniel sturridge came on after the break and he soon fired the blues level but with three minutes of normal time left johnson curled home after a fine solo run one defeat increases the pressure on blues boss and his least slowish that's his ball three defeat in twelve games leaving his side twelve points behind leaders manchester city it is early days but there is growing speculation dutchman guus hiddink could end up with some sort of role in chelsea where he had
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a spell as manager the former turkey and russia coach told r.t. yesterday he's looking for a move back into the game and although he took lonely about the emergence of russian side and she is a force in football dutch journalist believe chelsea is the more likely option but what i know is that it is wives girlfriends who were at a very good moment i do enjoy very much a living being. and still see there's a lot to do a thing. to redevelop the team and i think that's. very much to do i think if abramovich wants him to do once of the work for him i think you want to he will do it and the standard tennis with roger federer and rafael nadal have got off to a willing start at the end of season world tour finals in london although both have to work hard for their victory to federer the defending champion needing three sets to get past frenchman gold free to tsonga the swiss was on a twelve game winning streak coming into this tournament and took the first set six
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two wife and friend terry on really enjoying it so far but the songa is up to six in the world rankings then stormed back to take the next step by the same score so there was little between them in the deciding separate to tsonga stumbled on his five four down and federer took his chance. once you get the upper hand in the second set you start to swing more freely and it got more dangerous in the. me was just to. try to stick with much stretch creature answers when it was not serving as well as the times that i was going to it was chance and hopefully come through as a victory which it all. so it will hope to accept it while the tournament pits the world's best eight players against each other in world number two rough only dow was up against mardy fish in sunday's other match and out it was recovering from the stomach bug took the first set six two.
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but then stayed on the baseline for much of the second set and fish took the initiative his attacking style paying off to take that sixth straight. so this also went to a deciding set which then went to a tie break nadella benchley winning it seven three at the start of the tournament as a round robin format from which plays qualify for the semifinals of monday's matches will see world number one novak djokovic. and andy murray take on david fair. defending super bowl champs the green bay packers remain the only unbeaten team in the n.f.l. at the moment they had to survive a scary against tampa bay their one sunday night before eventually beating them thirty five points to twenty six the hosts were leading seven nothing by the end of the third period after b.j. raji round his way into the end zone. and that lead was doubled one minute into the
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second quarter aaron rodgers tossing a five yard touchdown pass that on crabtree he found himself wide open there tampa bay did respond they got it blown producing a fifty four yard touchdown ran for them somehow writing all the tackles that came his way. but they couldn't tame the arm of rogers and samper were twenty one ten down by halftime after he hooked up with jordy nelson here. but that is as big as the gap got and tampa mounted a bit of a fight back getting to be in two points when just freeman through to mike williams here in the fourth however rodgers came to town his rescue again his third touchdown pass of the game finding nelson once more green bay winning this one thirty five twenty six ten win from ten. golf darth maul roy has got his first win on the european tour winning the alfred dunhill championship in his native south africa the thirty three year old in durban started the final round two shots ahead as
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a field his biggest threats are coming from scotland's george murray here and after a memorable birdie at eight he drew level with mulroy on the fifteen but a south african would gain the advantage on the next hole with this beautifully judged putt for birdie and by the time he reached the eighteen people just needed to sink this path to victory which he did to claim his maiden european top title. in the presidents cup went to the americans for a fourth time in a row jim furyk maintained his hundred percent record at the top with a four in three win over ernie els and sunday singles and that moved the americans to be brink retain make up a large card picked tiger woods then clinched the vital point by easily beating local favorite aaron baddeley with a four and three victory in self so that sealed a win for the usa giving them the eighteen points they needed to lift the cup for a fourth straight time. and that is the sport for the moment we got the weather
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