we can be negotiated to. some degree of. water. possibly traded now but it could be in the future. of american watching archie live from moscow let's take a look at the top stories while fresh clashes between protesters and security forces have flared in cairo as protests and turf dear there are days right now we're showing you live pictures coming out of the egyptian capital cairo at least thirteen people were killed and hundreds injured over the weekend as demonstrators continue their demand for an answer military rule since friday. conservatives in spain celebrate a landslide victory in national elections but will have

a tough job ahead tackling the highest jobless rate in the euro zone and people on the streets still fear the new government won't be able to say the country's debt ridden economy. the number of troop convictions for their jury in u.s. military campaigns in iraq and afghanistan hits a record high as billions of dollars are reportedly wasted and stolen but those behind a majority of it are still walking free. now american counterterrorism expert david gardner tells our t. why he thinks the u.s. is actually losing the war on terror and why washington's policies in the fight against terrorism are mr wrecked it is intriguing it's coming right up. america's war on terror has been going on for ten years now there seems to be no end in sight some experts think terrorists are actually winning about work i'm

joined by khaled terrorism expert to be in ross the man who wrote a book titled bin laden's legacy why we're still losing the war on terror why was the great thing i mean your whole don't talk about it just give us some key point about why you think the u.s. is losing the war on terror i think the main thing to look at is the u.s. is capacity to stop terrorist attacks as well as its resilience in the face of an attack compared with the end user ability to strike the problem isn't that al qaeda has become more potent it's not clear that our plan has been significantly weakened but it's not clear it's become more potent the problem is that the united states has been significantly eroded over the course of the past decade the economy is of course in shambles with a massive national debt now not all of that is by any means attributable to the fight against al qaeda but more of it is that a lot of people realize including the massive cost of the iraq war the way that the instability that was spurred by that helped to drive up oil prices the national

debt as well as direct budgetary outlays and then the opportunity costs the ability after the economy crashed in two thousand and eight to deliver another stimulus package because a lot of this money had already been spent when you look at all of that and when you look at his goal of economically underbite in the united states i think the conclusion is not that there are that they've destroyed america but if they did more effective in under by the other end user kind of do that a lot of people would like to believe oh you're saying the terrorists have defined their strategy is bleeding the united states to bankruptcy and they have some claim it's succeeded in many ways let's talk money a little bit more why do you think the decade long fight against terror has been such a blow for the americans i think that would good looks. the return on the investment it's not a great return on investment a lot of the counterterrorism apparatus and policies have been distracted not totally i mean i do think that doing nothing is also not an option but to get the

key error was the war in iraq which resources away from afghanistan costing an enormous amount of money. to us and standing in the world beyond that the counterterrorism apparatus that had been erected is a very inefficient one there are so many different secret programs so many different cooks in the kitchen that it's difficult to have any one individual who can determine that there's not duplicated effort this also means that not only are offered steve's right the iraq war but also our defenses are expensive i think this is what he does and it can be fixed which is exactly what this is a clarion call for that we need to understand the situation that we're in and move beyond it you know what comes to mind is. soviet union the war in afghanistan has. it so badly back in the eighty's you know we very much contributed lessons to be learned with this is a lesson that did not and put it to

a multiple occasions that osama bin laden had been part of the resistance originally as a humanitarian worker in pakistan a dead he eventually went to the battlefield and got so caught up by that he ended up leading a team of arabs who fought against the soviets inside afghanistan now they were pretty incidental to the fight there were far more afghans there were arabs at any given point inside of afghanistan fighting the soviets but to bin laden this was kind of the parity fate of how you get a superpower training that the afghan soviet war brought down the soviet union i think it's not entirely clear historically that it did. especially if you did get it it's it's not entirely clear what kind of impact it has historians have mixed views on this given that you're by nature to sixty afghan soviet war cost about three billion dollars when one looks at the loss of oil export money as well as

green shortages within the soviet union and you will price tag of those far the worth of the afghan soviet war but if the afghan soviet war was a significant contributor it was precisely to get down in that one theater and thus make good on evil for the soviet union to adapt to other crises that it faces so i think there are definitely aggressive some initial question in the first instance because this is precisely how big you just fight against the united states which means that one when your enemy is so intent on grinding down your economy one thing you have to do is make sure that you don't fall into that trap and the second lesson is that even if expenditure isn't a massive part of your budget it can have it perhaps as i said the impact of the aspects of it where i find to be historically if i were to be

a historical question mark but what is indisputable is it certainly didn't help the soviet union and the amount of money that the u.s. has spent over all of the war on terror. even when adjusted for inflation is is much more in terms of sheer quantity. you can spend in afghanistan ok let's think america's are the worst ones that had nothing to do with nine eleven of course i'm talking about iraq first of all why spend so much money there is it because the u.s. this whole range that it doesn't know how else will spend the money or go through us expect that the wars will eventually pay off i don't think there is an expectation that there be a good monetary gain from the war so i don't think that these rewards of avarice rather i think that the u.s. quite simply underestimated what was going to happen when the. said at the lead up to the iraq war and very and by that there could have been political spin to try to make it more saleable to the public but when one looks at the leader the estimates given for how much it would cost were rather than the web estimates you had

officials talking about how the reconstruction of iraq could pay for itself that iraq could so on the market they could spy and have slowed reconstruction so it is i think that people just didn't. foresee what ended up happening in terms of this massive insurgency taking hold it's the law of unintended consequences that particularly would you have an enemy in a certain area you have to be wary that whatever action it of taking it to other theaters especially one that could attack the tracking jihad which was noted in advance that could end up snowballing and end up backfiring against you and that's what happened in iraq ok let's take another campaign related to terrorism does in any way contribute to draining the u.s. economically or is it just the war on terror that i believe that libya does quite obviously i think actually it's much it in my view as someone who had opposed the

libya intervention from the outset i think it's actually much worse because in fighting against terrorism at least you're fighting it's people who are trying to destroy your country and kill american citizens were as in libya it was entirely based on humanitarian intervention now there are different views of liberal humanitarian intervention but i think that given the economic context that we have in an era of severe austerity we need to be very hesitant about undertaking such an operation particularly given they said before the law of unintended consequences when one looks at the situation in libya prior to the beginning of the nato campaign in my view. there was almost no strategic interest at play because market off he was not supporting terrorist groups moammar gadhafi was not giving up his weapons of mass destruction program this doesn't mean that i'm. sad to see him go

he was a terrible ruler he was a brutal dictator and he certainly would have killed a lot of people and you know he probably would have killed far more people had not started bombing the country but to me one of the sad reality is the twenty first century is that there will be humanitarian very serious had the international community is powerless to do anything about and you know in six months or a year we'll have a much better idea of how from a strategic interest perspective the intervention in libya has gone you have already concerns that some jihadi may have gotten their hands on surface to air missiles as part of khadafi its arsenal you have certainly concerns about violent islamists being able to leave president during the chaos and there's the possibility that could a few loyalists will be able to mount an insurgency all of which you know what a year from now can make what's going on look a lot worse in retrospect i hope that doesn't happen but i certainly am concerned and our recent history doesn't really bear out that we're very good at cleaning

things up toppling the regime but the lesson is quite clear is always the easy part that you will fight against the extremists in your book you suggest ways to build resilience among americans to you know faith possible that path but without overreacting can you expand a little bit on that what ways are you suggesting resilience is particularly important that it serves multiple purposes not just defending against terrorism but you know we just have been beset by multiple natural disasters including the hurricane and earthquake and the like you one thing i put forward that would help to build resilience is basically incorporating individual citizens. into how. the community or a state would react to a terrorist attack or to a battle disaster or community of urgency response team model in phoenix arizona that i think is particularly good mr card this is something that helps citizens to

be less afraid and also to feel like if something goes wrong they can play a role i think it's important to build not just. resilience in terms of infrastructure but also psychological resilience so that we're not sitting here afraid of what happens but we have to stand it that if something bad happens we can play a role in fixing it and get good terms of helping fellow citizens i think that without going to war without waging wars in other countries well the first of all wars sometimes necessary often enough i think that for example in afghanistan. you know the the united states had to dislodge the talk about regime that was supporting al qaeda giving them sanctuary the iraq war obviously. don't you agree with the word libya so so resilience is not something that you becomes the end all and be are but i think it is it's an important part of what we do in the twenty first century

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during u.s. military campaigns in iraq and afghanistan hits a record high as billions of dollars are reportedly wasted and stolen but those behind a majority of it are still walking free. so take a look what's happening in the world of sports and a farmer joins us now in the studio with the latest and there's been a satisfying win for one of the country's greatest fighters. has long reign supreme in martial arts mixed martial arts got a crucial wins over an american rival to moscow last night and he did it in front of prime minister putin as well to end a run of three consecutive defeats are we going to get paid with that so he's a bit of a legend i would go to details and i'm. hello there good to have you company in these other headlines the last emperor returns

russia's mixed martial arts king theodore a good meal yang beats america montana in front of twenty thousand fans to dismiss talk of retirement. plus on the double whammy case bracy spartak single off the motif so you know we go from the russian premier league. i'm winning star defending champion federer and nadal get i mean victories at the end of season the world title finals get underway. but first mixed martial arts legend theodore your meal your anger has back to carry on fighting after claiming his first victory in four banks and thirty five year old russian sealed a unanimous decision over american jeff months and their heavyweight fight here in moscow and could now be in line for a rematch but it. cost a ref as this report. the first rounds action probably made its way two thousand in attendance believe this quite well and with a knockout any million a favor that is however the battle tested veteran jeff monson who by the way has

never lost by way of a k o kept getting up each time the last emperor sent him to the canvas to everyone's surprise given the ngo did not pursue monson on the ground even once inviting the americans to fight standing up perhaps that was the only strategy that could have worked against the forty year old submission expert as the ballots when they started this this all three five minute rounds. i didn't want to take any risks because geoff is a very courageous and difficult finds out i wasn't planning on finishing him off on the ground because i knew how dangerous he is that and he could have taken advantage if i might the scientists think i work very hard on making sure that i'll stand off doesn't end up in ground wrestling one wrong move and the result would have been very different. this was you may get in close first ever and i may appearance in moscow was certainly please the local crowd however there was one special fan in attendance a martial arts expert himself who probably doesn't say defeats lightly but the

russian prime minister vladimir putin had no reason to be upset on the night as he and the rest of the sold out only because witness the return of the last and her. the fight had to be stopped at one point as jeff monson's face was bleeding profusely after he took several points from fielder the old american grappling specialist managed to continue the fight already obvious that he was badly hurt and that was evident in the aftermath of this bout when jeff monson had to be helped by his crew as he was leaving their arena but still are human yet incl was all smiles as he probably knew that his return to the summits of mixed martial arts is just around the corner. he's next bite is in the hands of his manager and and one global president but team think. we would be happy to arrange a rematch with the priest the overt and other opponents and we're working on that

hopefully it will happen soon i cannot tell you the exact date yet but you have to understand that fighters like for b.c. over them are under contract with other organizations who are not our partners but times are changing and who knows perhaps we'll get that opportunity. whatever filters next opponents might be and where ever that ballot takes place it's already destined to be a top think a draw and it's safe to say that you know the ne goes next appearance is highly anticipated not only here in russia but across the atlantic as well room on cost artie in moscow. topo now and emanuel and any case called the first half price is. safe to kneel in the mosque darby yesterday the nigerian striker who scored a hat trick in the last encounter between the two also opened this time for spartak after twenty six minutes and he then doubled his tally with a minute to go before the interval site was have finished leapfrog into fourth in

the championship the russian premier li remarkable example korean school what proof needed when it is the nominal scope kept up the pressure on the top two with a two one home win over kapan because then showboating for the home side after eighteen minutes in korea and then netted the second day in its later just before the hour mark. did pull one back for a damp pesky side with a speculative shot the banks losing the keeper that it set to what happened in the band staying seven thousand are not remain third but do move to vin a point of second place. and in the last game today one of them all school twice as rostov came back to beat nine man tom three one pick destroyer perhaps harshly saw red after fifteen minutes despite this a magazine the new nick of swiftly put someone up in the penalty spot after that challenge. but a second yellow card just after the break meant to make three we continue also went . after that so tell me down to nine men and within three minutes

crosstalk themselves were awarded a spot kick. and out of off the ball away to make it one one. in the corner and then with twenty minutes ago michael papadopoulos made it to one into the home side from close range. and adam of late strike set for the final school of say three one men in the end from my eight points from safety. but i were in england when johnson. scored a late winner against his former club as liverpool won two one at chelsea to get a six in the english premier league the reds had the better of the first half of the banks rodrigo slotting in after thirty three minutes chelsea improved arc of daniel's courage came on after the break and he seemed five a blues that would work to be three minutes of normal time to three minutes normal time remaining johnson killed home after a fine solo run and that defeat increases pressure on group sports and. that is his

beard league defeat in four games leaving his side twelve points behind leaders manchester city but it is early days but there is growing speculation. could end up with some sort of role at chelsea where he had a spell as manager the former turkey and russian coach told r.t. yesterday he's looking for a move back into the game and although he talked glowingly about the emergence of russian side angie as a force in football dutch journalists who know him believe chelsea is the more likely option but what i know is that you. do a very good in england said mom i'm very much living. still see there's a lot to do. to redevelop the team but i think that's. something he likes very much and i think abramovich what to do once and to work for him i think you want to. do it's just

a reminder you can see the full pinch hitting interview on our website at our team dot com now in tennis roger federer and rafael nadal have gone off the winning start to the end of season world top finals in london although both did have to work pretty hard federer the defending champion needing three sets to get past frenchman jol free to tsonga the swiss was on a twelve game winning streak coming into this tournament and took the first set six to his wife and friend syria on rain joining it's a far better stronger he's up to six in the world rankings then stormed back to take the next step by the same scoreline. and there was little between them in the decider but the song i stumbled on his five four down and federer took his chance. once he got the upper hand in the second serve you start to swing more freely and it got more dangerous and. me was just. trying to drive away from a chance to create chances when it was not serving as well as it did at times that

i was going to take those chances and hopefully you know come through it was a victory which. you know came that way so that we hope that. while the tournament puts the world's best players against each other and world number two rafael nadal is up against an odd fish in sunday's other match no doubt he was recovering from a stomach bug took the first set six two. after that ball went long but then stayed on the baseline in the second and fish took the initiative his attacking style paying off to take that sixth grade. so this match also went to a decided which then went to a tie break dalla venture winning it seven three at the tournament the start of the tournament is a round robin format from which plays qualify for the semifinals monday's matches will see world number one about djokovic by promise and andy murray will take on david for their. other news defending super bowl champs the green bay packers

remain the only unbeaten team in the n.f.l. at the moment they had to survive the scare though against tampa bay on sunday night before eventually beating them thirty five points to twenty six the hosts were leading seven nothing by the end of the first period after p.j. graduates and his way into the end zone. and that lead was doubled one minute into the second quarter aaron rodgers tossing a five yard touchdown pass into town crabtree found himself wide open and tampa bay did respond and had a look at it bryant producing a fifty four yard touchdown run for them somehow riding every tackle that comes his way but they couldn't time the arm of rodgers and tampa were twenty one ten down by halftime after he threw the nelson. but that is as big as they get caught because tampa mounted a fight back getting to within two points when josh freeman three tonight williams early in the fourth however rogers came to tampa rescue again his third touchdown

pass of the game by nelson once more green bay winning this one thirty five points the twenty six win from ten games. engulfed darth maul roy has got his first win on the european soul winning the alfred dunhill championship in his native south africa the thirty three year old from durban started the final round two shots ahead of the field his biggest threat is from scotland's george murray here and after a memorable birdie at the eighth he drew level with milroy on the fifteenth. but the south african regain the advantage on the next hold with a beautifully judged part. and by the time he reached the eighteenth he just needed to see this part for part for victory which he did to claim his maiden european tour title. and the presidents cup went to be americans for a fourth time in a row jim furyk maintaining his hundred percent record with

a forty three win over ernie els on sunday singles and that moved the americans to the brink of retaining the cup car picked tiger woods then a vital point easily beating local favorites aaron baddeley the forty three feet three and self that sealed the win for the usa giving them the eighteen points they needed to lift the cup for a fourth straight time. so that brings us to the end of sports are back with more into our. world. technology innovation all the developments from around russia we've got the future covered.