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it could be in the future of. the world with. its technology innovation all the developments from around russia we've got the future covered. if you're just joining us a very warm welcome to you this is our. headlines now pressure clashes between protesters and security forces have flared up in cairo as protests now enter that day of the rest has seen at least twenty two killed and hundreds injured as demonstrators continue their demand for an end to military rule since friday. russia says that western calls for syria's opposition not the whole told with the government are a provocation on an international scale meanwhile pressure on damascus to end
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violence grows with over three thousand deaths reported during the recent months of protests. the number of troop convictions for theft during u.s. military campaigns in iraq and afghanistan hits the record high as billions of dollars are reportedly wasted and stolen by those by the majority of it all out still walking free. american counterterrorism expert darkens diana ross tells us here at r.t. why he thinks the u.s. is actually losing the war on terror and why washington's policies in the fight against terrorism directed the interview it's now. america's war on terrorism going on for ten years now there seems to be no end in sight some experts think terrorists are actually winning that world i'm joined by color terrorism expert gardens in ross the man who wrote
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a book titled bin laden's legacy why we're still losing the war on terror why it's a great thing i mean your whole talking about it just give us some key points about why you think the u.s. is losing the war on terror i think the need to look at is the u.s. is capacity to stop terrorist attacks as well as its resilience in the face of an attack compared with the end user ability to strike the problem isn't it al qaeda has become a more potent it's not clear that iraq has been significantly weakened but it's not clear it's become more potent the problem is that the united states has been significantly a rooted over the course of the past decade the economy is of course in shambles with a massive national debt now not all of that is by any means attributable to the fight against al qaeda but more of it is that a lot of people realize including the massive cost of the iraq war the way that the instability that was spurred by that helped to drive up oil prices upstroke the national debt as well as direct budgetary outlays and then the opportunity costs
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the ability after the economy crashed in two thousand and eight to deliver another stimulus package because a lot of this money had already been spent when you look at all of that and we look at his goal of economically undermining the united states i think the conclusion is not that there are that we've destroyed america but it is a bit more effective in underbody their enemies economy did a lot of people would like to believe oh you're saying the terrorists have defined their strategy is believing the united states to bankruptcy and they have succeeded this is succeeded in many ways let's talk money a little bit more why do you think the decade long fight against terror has been such a blow for the americans i think that would look. the return on the investment it's not a great return on investment a lot of the counterterrorism apparatus and policies have been mistretta not totally i mean i think that doing nothing is also not an option but the key error was the war in iraq which diverted resources away from afghanistan. this amount of
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money was pretty the loss of standing in the world beyond that the counterterrorism apparatus that had been erected is a very inefficient but. there are so many different secret programs so many different cooks in the kitchen it's difficult to have any one individual who can determine that there is not duplicated effort this also means that not only are offered skills like the iraq war but also our defenses are expensive and i think this is a design that can be fixed which is exactly what this is a clarion call for that we need to understand the situation that we're in and move beyond it you know what comes to mind is. the soviet union the war in afghanistan has. it so badly back in the eighty's there you know it very much contributed labs any lessons to be learned well this is a lesson that bit by bit put it to a multiple occasions osama bin laden had been part of the anti soviet resistance
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originally as a humanitarian worker in pakistan and then he eventually went to the battlefield and got so caught up by that he ended up leading a team of arabs who fought against the soviets inside of afghanistan no they were pretty incidental to the fight it's there are far more afghans there were arabs at any given point inside of afghanistan fighting the soviets but to this was kind of the parity got bad faith of how you get a superpower of training that the afghan soviet war brought down the soviet union i think it's not entirely clear historically that it did. especially if you do get it i mean it's a it's not entirely clear what kind of impact it has historians have mixed views on this given that you by nine hundred eighty six the afghan soviet war cost about three billion dollars i would want to accept the loss of oil export money as well as grain shortages within the soviet union the annual price tag of those far the
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worth of the afghan soviet war but if the afghan war was a significant contributor it was precisely by grinding it down in that one theater and thus making it odd evil for the soviet union to adapt to other crises that it so i think there are definitely lessons music lesson in the first instance because this is precisely how bin laden viewed his fight against the united states which means that wouldn't when your enemy is so intent on grinding down your economy one thing you have to do is make sure that you don't fall into that trap and a second lesson is that even if expenditure isn't a massive part of your budget it can have it perhaps as i said the impact of the afghan war i find to be historically a i further to be a historical question mark but what is indisputable is it certainly didn't help the soviet union and the amount of money that the us has spent over all of the war on
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terror. even when adjusted for inflation is much more in terms of sheer quantity. you can spread in afghanistan ok let's pick america's other words the ones that have nothing to do with nine eleven of course i'm talking about iraq first of all why spend so much money there is because the us is the rage that it doesn't know how else will spend the money or go for us expect that the wars will eventually pay off i don't think there is an expectation that there be a good monetary gain from the wars and i did these rewards of avarice rather i think that the us quite simply underestimated what was going to happen well when the. said at the lead up to the iraq war and bearing in mind that there could have been political spin to try to make it more saleable to the public but when one looks at the leader the estimates given for how much it would cost were rather low and estimates you had officials talking about how the reconstruction of iraq could pay for itself if that iraq could sell oil on the market naked through
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a reconstruction so. i think that people just didn't. foresee what ended up happening in terms of this massive insurgency taking hold it's the law of unintended consequences that particularly when you have an enemy in a certain area you have to be wary that whatever action that it taking in another theater it was specially one that could tap attracting jihad which was known in advance and that could end up snowballing and end up backfire against you and that's what happened in iraq ok let's take another campaign on related to terrorism does in any way contribute to training the u.s. economically or is it just the war on terror that. i believe that libya does quite obviously i think actually it's not in my view as someone who had opposed the libya intervention from the outset i think it's actually much worse because in fighting
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against terrorism at least you're fighting against people who are trying to destroy your country and you kill american citizens whereas in libya it was entirely based on humanitarian intervention now there are different views of the liberal humanitarian intervention but i think that given the economic context that we have in an era of severe austerity we need to be very hesitant about undertaking such an operation particularly given as i said before the law of unintended consequences when one looks at the situation in libya prior to the beginning of the nato campaign in my view. there was almost no strategic interest at play because small market off he was not supporting terrorist groups no rocket off he was not giving up his weapons of mass destruction program this doesn't mean that i'm. sad to see him go he was a terrible ruler he was a brutal dictator and he certainly would have killed
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a lot of people. he probably would have killed far more people had better not started bombing the country but to me one of the sad reality is the twenty first century is that there will be a humanitarian crisis that the international community is powerless to do anything about and in six months or a year we'll have a much better idea of how from a strategic interest perspective the intervention in libya has gone you have already concerns that some of your hobbies may have gotten their hands on surface to air missiles as part of khadafi its arsenal you have certainly concerns about violent islamists being able to leave prison during the chaos and there's the possibility that coffee loyalists will be able to mount an insurgency all of which you know a year from now can make god look a lot worse in retrospect i hope that doesn't happen but i certainly am concerned and our recent history doesn't really bear out that we're very good at cleaning things up toppling the regime the less is quite clear is always the easy part that
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you provide against extremists in your book you suggest ways to build resilience among americans to you know faith in jumpoff. what they're out over reacting can you expand a little bit on that what ways are you suggesting that resilience is particularly important that it serves multiple purposes not just defending its terrorism but you know we just have to be set by multiple natural disasters including hurricane earthquake and the like you one thing i put forward that would help to build resilience is basically incorporating individual citizens. into how. the community or a state would react to a terrorist attack or two of actual disaster there's a community of merchants response to model in phoenix arizona that i think is particularly good in this regard this is something that helps citizens to be less afraid and also to feel like if something goes wrong they can play
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a role i think it's important to build not just resilience in terms of infrastructure but also psychological resilience so that we're not sitting here afraid of what happens but we understand that if something bad happens we can play a role in fixing it and good terms of helping fellow citizens i think that without going to war without waging wars in other countries. first of all war is sometimes necessary often enough i think to for example in afghanistan. the united states had to dislodge the taliban regime that was supporting giving them sanctuary the iraq war obviously. don't you agree with nor the word libya so so resilience is not something that becomes the end all and be all but i think it is it's an important part of what we do in the twenty first century because we're not going to do is no guarantee that terrorism can never struck thank you thank you.
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a wreck or high as billions of dollars are reportedly wasted and stolen for those behind the most of it are still walking free. those are the headlines here and also you know let's get the latest sporting update with. hello there thanks for watching and that is what is coming up over the next few minutes showing faith to his girl boss luiz came back slow of to make a winning comeback against illegal in the champions league. on the double in many cases gracie's by attacks and blocking my teeth you know we've gotten a russian premier league. and the emperor's rain continues russian martial arts king you know you give me your name karen says he won't retire after beating jeff monson in front of twenty thousand fans. but first discard ensues he says he
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has faith in returning striker wagner love ahead of their crucial champions league clash with lille in moscow the forward has been suspended for the last two games in the russian premier league but will leave the line for young men tomorrow as top scorer said they've gone by begins a one match suspension. he says love is as fit as ever and is hopefully can refine his touch after not scoring for more than a month a win over the french would say to scar qualify for the knockout stage if the side traps and score lose to group the leaders. what mature. love is a blue who's always in good physical condition his blood to form is usually connected with his mental emotional state it's always hard to predict forward school. but he trained hard in the i'm sure he knows about the responsibility that he was a kid living in i'm sure. that from one truck he was in for his part x. and manual and we need k. he scored both goals in the team's two no victory over locke motif in the moscow
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darby and i jury a striker who scored a hat trick in the last encounter between the two also open this time to spar sack after twenty six minutes and he then doubled his tally with a minute to go before the interval and sooner than his have finished at leap frogging lock into fourth in the championship group. while alexander coren scored what proved to be the winner as the nano moscow kept up the pressure on the top two with a two one home win over the band you got so much of open the home side there after eighteen minutes according netted the second date minutes later i just before the hour but i'm on book i have pulled a goal back for a damn profess the side with a speculative shot and the bounce there food in a keeper but the one is have finished a ban staying seventh wild in arm i remain third but moved within a point of second place to a scar. and elsewhere on an album of scored twice as rostov came back to beat nine man torn three one think this through perhaps harshly saw red after fifteen minutes
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despite this though maxine and nick of swiftly put someone will up from the penalty spot. but a second yellow card just after the break meant to me. he was also sent self's a ton down to nine men after that bad challenge and with three minutes three minutes rostov and cells were awarded a spot kick and adam off the ball away to make it one one. slot so into the corner then with twenty minutes to go papadopoulos made it to one to the home side. from close range and had him of late strike settled the fine school at three one. eight points from safety. opening in glen johnson scored a late winner against his former club as little paul won two one to chelsea to go to six in the premier league there the reds have the better of the first half of
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slotting in after thirty three minutes chelsea improved after daniel sturridge came on after the break and he soon fired lose level but within three minutes with three minutes of normal time left johnson curled home after a fine solo run defeat increases the pressure on police process of revision boesch . league defeat in four games leaving his side twelve points behind leaders it's a city where it is early days but there's growing speculation that could end up with some sort of role in chelsea where he had a spell as manager the former turkey and russian coach told r.t. yesterday he's looking for a move back into the game and although he talks lonely about the emergence of russian side and she as a force in football dutch journalists you know him believe chelsea is the more likely option but what i know is that is why i will go from there were a very good moment very much a living being. there's a lot to do and chelsea i think. that's i think that's
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a. that's a that's something he likes very much to do i think if abramovich wants him to do wants him to work for him i think he wants to he will do it now he's one of russia's greatest fighters and fans of mixed martial arts will be relieved to know that field or yankee isn't going to retire just yet with thirty five american jeff monson in moscow to lead a three losing streak and afterwards he said he will continue his career which had previously seen him go unbeaten for a decade or more is wrong. and first round sachin probably made it twenty two thousand in attendance believe that this quite well and with a knockout any million and a favorite that is however the battle tested veteran jeff monson who by the way has never lost by way of a k o kept getting up each time the last emperor sent him to the canvas to everyone's surprise you may be and god did not pursue monson on the
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ground even once inviting the americans of white standing up for half that was the only strategy that could have worked against the forty year old submission expert as the ballots when they entire distance all three five minute rounds. i didn't want to take any risks because jeff is a very courageous and difficult fight so i wasn't planning on finishing him off on the ground because i knew how dangerous he is that and he could have taken advantage if i made the slightest mistake i worked very hard on making sure that i stand off doesn't end up in ground wrestling one wrong move and the result would have been very different. this was you know getting close first ever and then they experience and must go which certainly pleased the local crowd however there was one special fan in attendance and martial arts expert himself who probably doesn't say defeats lightly but the russian prime minister vladimir putin had no reason to be upset on the night as he and the rest of the sold out of the bickering now
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witness the return of the last emperor the fight had to be stopped at one point as jeff monson's face was bleeding profusely after he took several punches from fielder although the american graphic specialist managed to continue the fight and already obvious that he was badly hurt and that was evident in the aftermath of this bout when jeff monson have to be helped by his crew as he was leaving their arena but still are human getting to was all smiles as he probably knew that his return to the summits of mixed martial arts is just around the corner. his next bite is in the hands of his manager and one global president but. we would be happy to arrange a rematch with breezy over them in other opponents and we are working on that hopefully it will happen soon i cannot tell you the exact date yet but you have to understand that fighters like for resealed are under contract with other organizations who are not our partners but times are changing and who knows perhaps
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we will get that opportunity. who are fillers next opponents might be and were era that bad takes place it's already destined to be a top ticket draw and it's safe to say that you know yet it goes next appearance is highly anticipated and not only here in russia but across the atlantic as well. r.t. moscow. in tennis roger federer and rafael nadal have got off their winning start to the end of season world tour finals in london although both did have to work pretty hard federer the defending champion needing three sets to get past frenchman jo wilfried to tsonga the swiss was on a twelve game winning streak coming into this tournament at the first set six. wife and friend terry henri they're enjoying it but the songs are who's up to six in the world rankings then stormed back to take the next step by the same scoreline and there is little between them in a decided to tsonga stumble on the serve it thought i thought down and federer took
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his chance. once he got the upper hand in the second set he sort of swing more freely and it got more dangerous at. me was just. trying to stick it away from my chair and stretch create chances when it was not serving as well as it did at times. i was going to take those chances and hopefully come through as a victory which it will you know create that weight so it will hope to be. it's the world's best eight plays against each other and world number two rafael nadal was up against mardy fish in sunday's other match and down he was recovering from a stomach bug took the first set six two but then stayed on the baseline in the second. and fish took the advantage his attacking style paying off to take that six three.
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and it went to a deciding set as well which then went to a tie break down eventually winning it seven three the start of the tournament is a round robin format from which players will qualify for the semifinals of monday's matches will see world number one never jockey rich play thomas and andy murray take on diving for their. and lastly defending super bowl champs the green bay packers remain the only unbeaten team in the n.f.l. they had to survive a scare though against tampa bay on sunday night before eventually beating them thirty five points to twenty six the hosts were leading seven nothing by the end of the first period after b.j. raji slammed his way into the end zone and that lead was doubled one minute into the second quarter aaron rodgers tossing a five yard touchdown pass to tom crabtree found himself wide open tampa bay did respond got it round producing a fifty four yard touchdown run here somehow writing every challenge that came his way but they couldn't say in the army of rogers and tampa we're twenty one ten down
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by halftime after he hooked up with judy nelson here but that is as big as the gap got and tampa did manage to bit of a fight back getting to be two points when josh freeman through tonight williams early in the fourth however rogers came to the packers' rescue once again is third such down pass of the game finding nelson once more green bay winning this one thirty five twenty six their tenth win ten gapes. brings us the end of the support coming up next here on r.t. . question is that so much of a movie is going to make a lot of people a year yeah but the uncertain future as the eurozone grapples with the single currency what is the future of political union to save the euro is it necessary to fix.
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