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protesters demanding egypt's military leadership step down immediately greeted by tear gas and rubber bullets in the revolutionary tahrir square and these are not live pictures there will be sure to show you some later in the program. just eight months after its first revolution the country seems on the brink of another as protesters demanding an end to military rule. moscow rounds on the west accusing it of hurting prospects of peace talks in syria where violence between protesters and government forces carries on unabated. and as new center right leaders take the
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helm in madrid we have a spanish voices doubting whether the new law will do anything to lead them through mounting debt and skyrocketing joblessness. business global equity markets trouble or on monday your crops out to moody's investor service delivered a couple of warnings to france and germany russia is also lower we're bringing you the latest figures. it is just after five pm on monday here in moscow this is the with me rule research showing welcome to the program tear gas rubber bullets sound angry slogans i mean flying in egypt's tahrir square as police and protesters clashed fourth day of the country's officials claim at least thirty five people have now been killed in the largest demonstration since february uprising that ousted dictator hosni mubarak and we can get more details on this and speak to independent online journalist
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james corbett standing by for us live oh thanks for coming on the program today with elections just around the corner why did people decide to resort to protest and violence when they could have just cast their votes. well one would think so if it's. it was really the way that this was going to play out but of course what we have here is really the end a predictable result of a revolution that failed to do what it really set out to do without realizing it and i think that is to actually fundamentally alter the power structure as as it's going on in this country i mean really what what ultimately happened was throwing out a figurehead instead of the actual power structure itself which has been for many years and continues to be the military dictatorship that egypt really is that made so so i think the illusion of democracy is just that until the the underlying power structure that's going on there can be understood i don't think anything really has changed so they got rid of the leader they got rid of hosni mubarak as you're suggesting that perhaps it's just
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a reshuffling of the same furniture there and the ruling party but since i'm about was ousted nine months ago crime rates are high of violence is on the rise protesters have on that minute military rule to transfer power to a civilian government but do you really think at this point with the violence and crimes on the rise of the people actually ready to take the power of their own hands well if not now then when i suppose would be the question and there is always going to be a question whenever there is a transfer of power in a society from what it devolves from a highly organized brutally oppressive state into it and were to be centralized in more hopefully democratic state that there will be that movement aware of where a lot of the institutions that people have taken for granted do come into question but i think it's a question of egypt and society being able to step up to the plate and handle that rather than none and then. it's going to fail and us that the entire revolution is in vain and i think ultimately did that falls into the type of power politics to get play even in situations like this where you have the the after only western
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intervention it's the policies that assume that people can't quite handle than ocracy yet they need to be ruled over by a big theater of some sort so i think that just plays into the hands of the people who're. watching this from behind the scenes and wondering how they're going to fit into the new geo political paradigm rather than what's in the interests of the people themselves well it's interesting how you bring the issue of the west into this picture we're looking at the latest report from the central morgue and cairo says that thirty five dead at this point our troops over the weekend launched a major assault to clear the protesters from the infamous tour of square i mean i'll be looking at the beginning of another revolution and if so perhaps you alluded to moments ago will nato be tempted to get involved. well i suppose that's always a possibility and certainly increasingly so in this in this new paradigm that we have post libya but i wouldn't posit that this is a new revolution so much as a continuation of the revolution i think that the revolutionary fervor that was
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there was there in the early part of this year it was was just. it was spent but not completely spent and it didn't really accomplish the task and it said no for itself and i think a lot of the unfortunately the liberal warmongers on the left side of american politics that now play into this because their president is in power and is thus the one behind his foreign policy did a premature celebration a vote about the entire revolution itself and posited this overthrowing was really the liberation of the egyptian people but of course in any situation like this there is an underlying power structure that props up these types of dictators and until that underlying problem is really taken care of there's really no possibility for a revolution to be successful so i think this is already up to about as you say you know the west was celebrating mubarak being alpha in february now nine months ago but currently the third day of eid rest violence thirty five dead at least so far not a word yet from the west condemning civilian deaths so much that they've been doing
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in syria much like what they did in libya when it came to introducing u.n. resolution one nine seven three why why the double standards here when it comes to what's going on well that's a that's a very good point it's a very good question because i think that point so they hope ocracy that in there all along i don't think what the west was really you know you notice that it was it was a favorite guest of the white house and all of that right up until the time of the . operation in egypt and so i think really what's happening here is that the west saw an opportune time to be part of the bandwagon and hoping to meet the power structure would continue in egypt that would mean taking the status quo not region but since that destabilization looks like it's going to go even further i think that people in the power. as in western intervention as countries are now are now wondering how far this will go and whether it can go perhaps too far for their conference because obviously we've already seen what the destabilization is going for example between the relations between egypt and israel which have been fast
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friends for many years under mubarak with a relationship is coming to question as well as i know the protestors what the presidential vote to take place after parliamentary elections they begin on the twenty eighth of november they'll be stuck it out over the next three months do you think do you see them having a positive effect here otherwise what is the end game. the end game will it's a very good question i think ultimately we're going to have to wait and see and i know that's not a particularly satisfying answer but i think on both sides of this right now it's it is a very delicate time and i think it could go either way at the moment but i think that certainly the momentum must be on the sides of the revolutionary crowd at this point so i don't i'm not sure exactly what type of crackdown would even be possible or viable the military at this point so i'm really not sure what the what the endgame would be for the military other than to preserve its to cater ship in any way it can so i think it has to lay off the crowds at some point here risk some sort of new you know intervention which as we say is now on the table as opposed to
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libya paradigm all right how james kopp is there any better journalist ally for us in osaka many thanks indeed thank you. all right well we are standing by to speak to artie's paulus leah she is in cairo but we did speak to a short while ago she was actually taking shelter due to tear gas causing i use it to run we'll catch up with her as soon as we can here an r.t. for meantime there were on our web site r.t. dot com we've been asking you when will the violence in egypt come to an end let's see how you're voting and bring up the charts right here so far the votes are fairly evenly split but the majority believe it will stop when the military rulers decide enough is enough just over a quarter of you think it will happen with the election of the muslim brotherhood and almost an equal number of people see the end coming after unemployment and in inflation isn't dealt with all otherwise when mubarak truly is back behind bars to have your say artsy dogcart. or what are some other
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stories are coming your way here on our c in the program still to come a spain's election brings in some new faces to deal with the debt crisis but many fear it's only brought the death of the welfare state a step closer also. moscow has accused western powers of storing up tensions in the arab world by calling for the overthrow of the syrian regime russia says calls from certain states for the syrian opposition to avoid dialogue with the government are only provoking further violence. as more. what we heard from russian foreign minister sergei lavrov today was in reiterating russia's position on the ongoing conflict in syria that position is that they want to see those occasions regime change become the final outcome in the conflict said he a lover of cold what he called the western calls for assad to step aside and also
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for the opposition in syria not to negotiate with assad he called that a provocation saying that that would not bring about peace that would only spur on the opposition to continue the fight which we've seen so far over the last eight months has resulted in three and a half thousand people being killed in that country is the lover of saying that this international provocation should not have happened. or soup in syria we're now seeing a situation where the arab league is calling for holtz of violence and the beginning of july launched and western countries and the capitals of some countries of the region and making calls to the country expressly recommending the opposition hold no talks with the acid regime it looks like a political provocation on an international scale yes violence has to be stopped but this demand has to be addressed to the authorities and the only groups in the syrian opposition now this isn't the first time they said gill of law has accused
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the west of meddling in the syrian situation now he also suggested that there was a shadowy hand of western governments behind the arab league's decision to suspend syria from their group last week now. of course the last country to be suspended from the arab league before syria was libya and nothing the situation in the in libya what we saw in libya is something that russia really does not want to see happen in syria also the syrian opposition who are here in moscow last week their leaders also saying they did not want to see a civil outcome is what happened in libya where international intervention took place. send that straight intervention straying and we'll be on the parameters of un resolutions that will lay down this type of outcome is something that both russia and the syrians want to avoid happening in that country. in spite of all of our reporting from central moscow christopher a writer on middle east affairs for the world socialist web site believes the arab
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league wants us starts regime to go i was never interested in helping in the first place but i think first of all you have the efforts of the arab league would be designed to fail. this is not a genuine effort of conflict resolution on the part of the other belief because they are a bleak place in the ultimatum before the assad regime in syria they couldn't possibly meet is that they would abandon all military action under conditions in which the free syrian army and the insurgents were carrying out attacks on military targets and even carried out. the bombing has been a good talk on the bulkhead but the sad part is in the baskets well i think ultimately assad is holding foul of a movie a push by the united states to secure its domination of the middle east which is the same reason why they pushed for the war against libya and now they're making
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very bellicose noises to go with israel against around the issue is that they want a regime which may or may not include sections of the army which is more amenable to u.s. foreign policy and takes its distance from iran. china's time attention from syria to that of libya where more market africa's fugitive spy chief or one of the last key figures from libya's old regime still on the run has now been captured in the country's south it comes just days after khadafi son saif al islam was also court the national transitional council has since said it won't hand saif gadhafi over to the hague tribunal instead it's about to try him at home for crimes against the libyan people that could result in the death penalty following the toppling of his father at the end of the eight month civil war many questions remain about the regime saif is believed to be one of the few who knows about gadhafi his dealings with the west but political analyst and author adrian believes that saif al islam will either be silenced by the hague or the libyan authorities. what. he's
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learned that buffy as is a terrible choice if you'd been shot or been hanged because if you use germs in tried in libya you might end up very much in the saddam hussein way trial where he will end up being armed or he will in the you know one way or the other and if you use extra. it will not do you feel when we are of all the other we will say i was after you son as has been the constant throughout history every time somebody survives. relations we've also seen and this is all of this horrible documents how warm are good that you only in the last two years has shook the hands of tony blair were rattled by no doubt a lot of bins wouldn't go to a lot of very uncomfortable their information would be given by so that the. just out on a quarter past the hour here in moscow you without say spain is shifting right to attempt to balance the books the country's conservatives have won
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a landslide victory in a general election they now have to tackle and record unemployment of over twenty percent and find a way out from underneath a growing pile of debt it was all to go to school reports spaniards don't hold much hope the new crew will bring any change. this is what this year's want from the elections but it's very unlikely they'll get it the popular party may have won sunday's polls but it's highly unlikely for an easy term the reality of the economic crisis in spain means five million people out of work one and a half million households without a wage earner and the youth unemployment rate which has spread up to nearly fifty percent this is state of affairs the winner will have to deal with what will they really be able to make a difference. probably not ellys gail allard an economics professor at madrid's i visit a school and we're going to have to cut benefits sharply we may have to differentiate among recipients of benefits we may have to limit programs from this can really be . we need to think of
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a welfare state but not spaniards have had enough with budget cuts and empty promises protests by the fifteen m. movement the so-called indignant marches happen spreading throughout spain since march many people have chosen not to go to the polls on sunday believing politicians will not help the country i think people are being disappointed with the choices they have all through throughout this campaign really for the last couple of months at least because i think they feel that there isn't a great deal of difference between the two candidates in terms of what they would do and it seems there is no easy way out of the current economic downturn in fact some of the minorities in the parliament believe spain is a vicious circle. system because it's all polish jews are being dictated in brussels the elections will help in creating more jobs it will be the opposite of public expense will go down but it was purchasing power will go down that will mean fewer investments and that translates into unemployment. and though there may be
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new faces in the spanish government they will have to deal with the old problems in much the same way meaning nothing is likely to change for spain neared already tired of the economic catastrophe and the country in the gulf quite in madrid. more money matters are being chewed over on our website r.t. dot com for example economists predict the fall of the u.s. dollar within a decade also china becoming the world's strongest economy and it's a new one at the reserve currency. also was working leaks founder julian assange faces extradition to sweden over sexual assault charges and unlikely support comes to his defense there but world renowned feminist calls for an end to the witch hunt against him to come or his head over to artsy car.
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down the official antioch location and join a phone called touch from the. geology on the. video on demand our keys mine. and r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. machine on the job com our job in the business news with kareena in about five minutes time but for now wall a tragedy for many of the chance to make a fast buck for an unscrupulous few at the amount of money missing in iraq and
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afghanistan has reached i watering levels that no one is being held to account. investigates. not everyone leaves the war zone empty handed the number of people indicted and convicted by the us for bribery fraud in there in iraq and afghanistan has never been so high among those a marine in iraq who sent home forty three thousand dollars in stolen cash by hiding it in a food locker among american flags a soldier who shipped thousands more conciliatory stuffed animals they can go after people steal forty three thousand dollars all they want necessary ok to shoot. but what about on the larger scale in two thousand and six michael o'brien was tasked with helping build the iraqi military he says those who have pocketed mili is enjoyed complete impunity they rebuilt an iraqi army base and i'm telling you the condition of his space and this is just one example so deplorable it was so
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pathetic and when i asked the american construction project manager what this cost how much money went into this i really thought he was going to say three million or five million one hundred sixteen million dollars my jaw dropped the commission on work time contracting estimated that between thirty one to sixty billion dollars has been lost to waste and fraud in iraq and afghanistan the figures seem even more staggering considering the overall amount the u.s. has committed to rebuilding iraq roughly sixty two billion dollars he did van buren was the head of an iraqi reconstruction team working for the u.s. they departed with the squandering of resources occurred while i was a thousand dollars a couple thousand dollars here and there and all the way up into hundreds of millions of dollars that were spent on hospitals that never opened or prisons that never took any prisoners in the commission on work time contracting is out of
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business now after congress had its funding. the details of their program see. until two thousand and thirty one they don't want certain people in high places. to come under scrutiny in the u.s. congress wants to put the talk all over our iraq invasion behind it the scope of the waste and fraud is enormous the u.s. justice system goes after individuals who have stolen a few thousand dollars here and there but not after the big players the big contractors that have really made a killing on the wars i'm going to check on reporting from washington r.p. . he's coming here live from the heart of moscow time for the world cup but here are some of the headlines for your grief this hour the long awaited trial of three surviving camaro rouge officials charged with genocide and crimes against humanity has begun three top regime leaders are accused of orchestrating cambodia's killing fields in the late one nine hundred seventy s.
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and which almost two million people died the defendants include the former come bodine communist main ideologist along with its foreign minister. the parents of a murdered teen whose phone was hacked by the tabloid the news of the world over giving evidence to an inquiry into the standards of the british press they say some messages leaking from her phone after she disappeared in two thousand and two making them think that she was still alive in fact million dollar was dead and a person who did leave her messages worked for rupert murdoch's newspaper so liberties are also said to give evidence about the legal eavesdropping right. now the so called lone wolf terrorist has been arrested in new york jose pimentel a dominican born u.s. citizen was accused of plotting to a thai police i will post offices and troops who are returning from combat use instructions on how to build
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a pipe bomb from an al qaeda magazine mental have been under surveillance for a good two years. but our top story here on r t across live to cairo there's artie's paulus lear there just ahead of the crowds of the to rear a square the third day of protests now paula what exactly is the people back onto the streets at this time it's been nine months since the ousted mubarak the former president. well as you can see behind me because you are swelling in taffy aspire in the last hour or so before it has hundreds if not thousands of more people coming to the square these schools are closed people are coming here after business they form small crowds and they chanting they've also been the spontaneous clashes and demonstrations between the protesters here and security forces now many of the protesters are youngsters in fact by and large most of them are there's a fake percentage of his nonis amongst them and what are the chances we take him
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back to have his square certainly they've waited a long time to take the square back and they've been trying for weeks but the police have constantly kept them away and now that they have a switch that their hands they're going to everything they can to make sure it stays that way the demonstration we witnessing now is the largest and the most continuous against the military that has been in power ever since the for me gyptian president hosni mubarak was forced to step down back in february and we witnessing these same kind of scenes insiders and in alexandria and in other big cities across the country and we even says that protesters here have said they don't believe that come next monday when there is the first parliamentary election in the first one by kerry and that those elections will be free and fair but protesters have been telling me is that the minute he wants to stay in power that they've drafted a constitution that still gives them too much power in the words of people here even after a civilian government is elected to have one protest i was speaking to earlier this
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sums it up he says to hell with the elections it's time for people to come back to the streets of taf here and finish this revolution right off is a policy that live right of the infamous to risk where in the current many thanks indeed. and of course i will live to the business that's going to korea is next. thanks rory home welcome to business here in r.t. russian markets are having a bad day that i could ease around the world tumble on concerns that the sovereign debt crisis could spread to the euro zone's biggest economies morty's agency warns that the rising cost of french tax and its weak a comic outlook of threatening its aaa credit rating also it sees rising risks for germany due to its banks exposure to the troubled european economies now to discuss what's happening out there more with the market sorry i'm now joined by live by
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love a good time from our concern financial corporation thank you so much for joining the program rather so what's behind the selloff here in russia. years beginning indeed markets are under quite simply put it was peer pressure. is such a concession the response training day not only in russia but also. for supporting the different geographies other than nothing did any specific new school do particularly negative today we still see a lot of reason for investors to sell at this juncture first and foremost that we can address the group insolvent at markets which have hit unprecedented levels last week in terms of funding costs and this concerns as personal is not preferred countries that just transit in spain where putting too many experts. on deposit builds are reaching unsustainable levels over lucas exert some negative pressure on the financial sector in europe and spreads into the developing merging markets such
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as russia as well and also the european debt side enter the periphery so continues we still see priest looking for the eight billion euros in the next we allow tranche we just has not received it with the greek pm at the demo so going to brussels yesterday asking for this money although that call you still cannot quite support these opposition. r.c. leader. refuses to sign pretty much on the student package at this juncture so a lot of reason for the markets to be upsets other was a lot of ups and optimism got into the g twenty meeting in early november a few weeks ago however at the start of school is still far from happy and at this point and people are losing hope you hear conversations about potential dismantling of the european union which we could not even imagine but the months. ok a bloody good time from our kids here thanks very much for that that's all the time we haue for in this edition of business report but i'll join me in about fifteen
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meet friends don't totty don't come. in two thousand and ten because special economic zone for industrial production was established in russia somalia region with a total area of six hundred sixty ekta as. its investors are granted exclusive tax and customs benefits which includes a five year exemption from property lands and transport taxes as well as an income tax reduction to fifteen point five percent. the special economic zone operates as a free custom zone which enables manufacturers to mark a date for that in russia free of in for duties to some our region as he said this .
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