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into. the ski lift you will see in this business. now past the hour here in the russian capital with the headlines now protesters demanding egypt's military leadership step down immediately greeted by tear gas. killed since friday in the largest demonstrations. that ousted president. on the west accusing it of provoking syria. call for the opposition to avoid dialogue with the government. protesters government forces.
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and the new center right. over twenty percent. of the spanish people have expressed little face the fresh faces much needed. terrorism expert explaining to us why he thinks the u.s. is stoking the war. america's war on terrorism going on for ten years now there seems to be no end in sight some experts think terrorists are actually winning about work i'm joined by counterterrorism expert carved in stone ross the man who wrote a book titled bin laden's legacy why we're still losing the war on terror and why it's a great thing i mean your whole book is about it just give us some key points about
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why you think the u.s. is losing the war on terror i think that means to look at is the u.s. is capacity to stop terrorist attacks as well as its resilience in the face of an attack compared with the end user ability to strike the problem isn't that al qaeda has become more potent it's not clear that our plate has been significantly weakened it's not clear it's become more potent the problem is that the united states has been significantly eroded over the course of the past decade the economy is of course a chair bills with a massive national debt now not all of that is by any means attributable to the fight against al qaeda but more of it is that a lot of people realize including the massive cost of the iraq war the way that the instability that was spurred by that helps drive up oil prices at the national debt as well as direct budgetary outlays and the opportunity costs the ability after the economy crashed in two thousand and eight to deliver another stimulus package because a lot of this money had already been spent when you look at all of that and we look
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at how does call economically underbody get out of states i think the conclusion is not that there are that they've destroyed america but it they've been more effective you know under by the internet and these are kind of you got a lot of people would like to believe well you're saying the terrorists have defined their strategy is bleeding the united states to bankruptcy and they have succeeded it's succeeded in many ways let's talk money a little bit more why do you think the decade long fight against terror has been such a blow for the americans i think that would good looks. the return on investment it's not a great return on investment a lot of the carriage and apparatus and policies have been distracted not totally i mean i think that doing nothing is also not an option but to give the key error was the war in iraq which resources away from afghanistan cost you an enormous amount of money was pretty u.s. is standing in the world beyond that counterterrorism apparatus that had been
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erected is a very inefficient. there are so many different secret program the same so many different cooks in the kitchen it's difficult to have any one individual who can determine that there's not duplicated effort this also means that not only our office the iraq war but our sort of defenses are expensive i think this is what he does and it can be fixed which is exactly what this is a clarion call for that we need to understand a situation where it could move beyond that you know what comes to mind is. the soviet union the war in afghanistan has. it so badly back in the eighty's that you know we very much contributed lessons to be very well this is a lesson that did not have pointed to a multiple occasions osama bin laden had been part of the soviet resistance originally as a humanitarian worker in pakistan and dead he then she went to the battlefield and got so caught up by that that he ended up leading
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a team of arabs who fought against the soviets inside afghanistan now they were pretty incidental to the fight there were far more afghans than there were arabs in any given point inside of afghanistan fighting the soviets but to this was kind of the parity that excited how you get a superpower by training. the afghan soviet war brought down the soviet union and i think it's not entirely clear historically that it did. especially tributed. it's it's not entirely clear what kind of impact it has historians have mixed views on this given that you by nine hundred eighty six the afghan war cost about three billion dollars we're going to accept the laughs of oil export money as well as grain shortages within the soviet union and you will price tag on those far towards the afghan soviet war but if the afghan war was a significant contributor it was precisely by grinding it down in that one theater
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and thus making it an evil for the soviet union to adapt to other crises that it today so i think there are definitely lessons militia lesson in the first instance because this is precisely how did live view this fight against the united states which means that when when your enemy is so intent on bringing down your economy one thing you have to do is make sure that you don't fall into that trap and the second lesson is that even if expenditure isn't a massive part of your budget it can have it impact and as i said the impact of the afghans have it where i find to be historically it i thought it would be a historical question mark but what is indisputable is it certainly didn't help the soviet union and the amount of money that the u.s. has spent over all of the war on terror. even when adjusted for inflation is because much more in terms of sheer quantity. you can spread in afghanistan ok list
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like america's other words that had nothing to do with nine eleven of course i'm talking about iraq first of all why spend so much money there is because the west is so rich that it doesn't know how else will spend the money or does the west expect that the words will eventually pay off i don't think there is an expectation that there be a monetary gain from the war i don't think that these rewards of avarice rather i think that the u.s. quite simply underestimated what was going to happen when the. set at the lead up to the iraq war and get a very good buy that there could have been political spin to try to make it more sociable to the public but when one looks at the lead up the estimates given for how much it would cost were rather low and estimates you had officials talking about how the reconstruction of iraq could pay for itself that iraq could sell oil on the market make a dutch finance the road reconstruction so. i think that people just didn't
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pay for see what ended up happening in terms of this massive insurgency taking hold it's the law of unintended consequences that particularly when you have an added me in a certain area you have to be wary that whatever action indicating in another theater especially one that could attack attracting jihad which was noted events that could end up snowballing and end up backfiring against you and that's what happened in iraq ok let's take another campaign related to terrorism because those who do in any way contribute to training the u.s. economically or is it just the war on terror that does all the training i believe that libya does quite obviously i think actually it's much it in my view as someone who had opposed the libya tradition from the outset i think it's actually much worse because in fighting against terrorism at least you're fighting against people who are trying to destroy the country and to kill american citizens whereas in
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libya it was entirely based on humanitarian intervention now there are different views of liberal humanitarian intervention but i think that given the economic context that we have and era of severe austerity we need to be very hesitant about undertaking such an operation particularly given as i said before the law of unintended consequences when one looks at the situation in libya prior to the beginning of the nato campaign in my view. there was almost no strategic interest at play because small market off easy was not supporting terrorist groups nor market off he was not giving up his weapons of mass destruction program this doesn't mean that i'm. sad to see him go he was a terrible ruler he was a brutal dictator and he certainly would have killed a lot of people. he probably would have killed far more people had not started bombing the country but to me one of the sad reality is the twenty first century is
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that there will be humanitarian crises that the international community is powerless to do anything about and in six months or a year we'll have a much better idea of how from a strategic interest perspective the intervention in libya has gone you have already concerns that some of you may have gotten their hands on surface to air missiles as part of could off these arsenal you have certainly concerns about violent islamists being able to leave prison during the chaos and there's the possibility that cannot be loyalists will be able to knock the insurgency all of which you know a year from now could make what's going on look a lot worse in retrospect i hope that doesn't happen but i certainly am concerned and our recent history doesn't really bear out that we're very good at cleaning things up toppling the regime the left is quite clear is always the easy part that to fight against extremists in your book you suggest ways to build resilience among americans to you know face them for possible that path but without overreacting can
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you spend a little bit on that but what ways are you suggesting resilience is particularly important but it serves multiple purposes not just defending against terrorism but you know we just have been beset by multiple natural disasters including the hurricane and earthquake and the like you one thing i put forward that will help to build resilience is basically incorporating the individual citizens. into how. the community or a state would react to a terrorist attack or to actually sastre there's a community of emergency response team model in phoenix arizona that i think has is particularly good mr card this is something that helps citizens to be less afraid and also to feel like if something goes wrong they can play a role i think it's important to build not just resilience in terms of infrastructure but also psychological resilience so that we're not sitting here
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afraid of what happens but we have to stand it if something bad happens we can play a role in fixing it and it terms of helping fellow citizens i think that without going to war without waging wars in other countries. first of all wars sometimes necessary often not i think that for example in afghanistan. you know the united states had to dislodge. her she you know was supporting al qaeda giving them sanctuary the iraq war obviously. don't you agree with the word libya so so resilience is not something that becomes the end all and p.r. but i think it is it's an important part of what we do in the twenty first century because you're not going to there is no guarantee that terrorism can never struck again thank you.
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that. it. the headlines on the protesters demanding that egypt's military leadership step down immediately greeted by tear gas and rubber bullets in tahrir square officials say at least thirty five have been killed since friday and the largest demonstration since february is authorizing the president. most go around on the west look using it of provoking violence in syria some states call for the opposition to avoid dialogue with the government violence between protesters and government forces continues unabated. and the new center right leaders take the helm. unemployment of over twenty percent and growing debt levels for the spanish
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people have expressed a little plate of the fresh faces will bring a much needed change. the headlines are not seen next sporting headlines with. thank you for joining me and these indeed are the top stories. faith in love to scare a manager late it's not actually wagner love to make a winning comeback against neil in the champions league. loss of the double emmanuel and then his braces the spotlight single locomotive today on the moscow darby we have all the gospel of latin grammy only. plus lift it up like record the former england captain helps l.a. galaxy win the m.l.s. title in what could be his final competitive appearance at the club. alex at the
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last emperor russian m.m.a. legend fielder you when you reach jeff nonce and dismissing talk you set to retire could face a rematch with a pretty overdone. first of all and tesco coach lane is let's see says he has faith in returning striker wagner love ahead of their crucial champions league clash with french side lille in moscow on tuesday the forward has been suspended for the last two games in the russian premier league will lead the line for the army men as top scorer seydoux dubio. ran coach lidsky says love is as fit as ever and is hopeful the twenty three year old can regain his touch of the not scoring for more than a month a win over the french side would see it as can qualify for the knockout stage if turkish side clubs on sport moves to group the leaders into milan. wagner thought of the wagner lovers a blue who's always in good physical condition his bed to form is usually connected
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with his mental and emotional state it's always hard to predict for which quality of play when he drained hard and i'm sure he knows about the responsibility of that he's a key player and i'm sure wagner up with it now mind you and well one man who isn't full is in on you and then you can he scored both goals in his side's to no victory over luck on monday and the moscow darby well the nigeria striker who scored a hat trick in the last encounter between the two teams also opened this time for the spotlight after twenty six minutes and he then doubles his tally of the minutes to go before the interval and to know was how it finished spacek elites running rampant into fourth in the championship point. home in my alexander category in sports what proved to be the winner as did i was so kept up the pressure on the top two with a two one family over coupon he got some shots open for the home side after eighteen minutes and coroneted the second eight minutes later just before the hour armando
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guy has called the goal back four down to test the side with a speculative shot the bant feeling the goalkeeper but to want it finished by stay sevens the number remains thirds but moved to within a point of second place to scout. camp as well the one about was scored twice or thrice stuff came back to beat nine nine times three one because both the hands harshly so read after fifteen minutes but despite this. on the surface but one block from the penalty spot. but a second yellow card just after the break commenced to unseat also went off tom down to nine men after back challenge. and within three minutes rostock themselves were awarded a spot kick. right to keep mum one. there with twenty minutes to go adopt
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a list made it to want to the home side. late strike settled the final three one. eight points from safety i. thought over in england then johnson scored the late winner against his former thought as liverpool vance a wanted chelsea to go six in the premier league and put pressure on blues manager and regular spurs the reds have the better of the first half with maxi rodriguez slotting in office eighty three minutes chelsea improved after daniel sturridge came on after the break and soon find the blues level with three minutes of normal time left. after a fine solo run the defeat was the third in full against us leaving his side twelve points behind me to snatch the city. well it's early days but there's growing speculation this hearing could end up with the role of chelsea where he won the f.a. cup in two thousand and nine temper manager former turkey and russia coach told r.t.
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he's looking for a move back into the game and though he talked in glowing terms about the emergence of russian side angie as a force in football such journalists believe chelsea is the likely option. but what i know is that the wives go for they were at a very good period in england and mobile very much living being. healthy does a lot to do it i think. we develop the team but i think. that's a very large very much to do i think if abramovich wants him to do wants him to work for him i think he wants he will do it. david beckham helped l.a. galaxy win the m.l.s. title with a one there winner the western dynamo in what could be his final competitive appearance for the club but his sides met in the m.l.s. cup final on sunday and in the seventy first minute thirty six year old back and
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robbie keane come by and set up kept them under donovan to score the illegal second did have a chance to cap a fairytale performance with a goal of his only added time but is free kick safe by tally hall the big cricket galaxy their first title since two thousand and five and back in his first piece of silverware in america in the final season of his five year deal his contract is due to expire next month but despite being linked to paris back on set and take time to decide his future plans. there's no rush. in a rush to decide what happens we go into all next the next weekend. so we're going to enjoy that and enjoy this we. you know we've worked hard to get to this point. so we'll enjoy that and then kick back and enjoy the rest enjoy thanksgiving. and then. russian m.m.a.
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legend feel the human yelling fire has vowed to carry on fighting after claiming his first victory in four bands the thirty five year old russian sealed a unanimous decision over american jeff monson in a heavyweight fight here in moscow and could now be in line for a rematch with the greece other dumb luck also reports. the first round action probably made its way to dallas and in attendance believe that best quite well and with a knockout any million a favor that is however the battle tested better and jeff monson who by the way has never lost by way of a k o kept getting out each time the last emperor sent him to the canvas to everyone's surprise given the ngo did not pursue monson on the ground even once inviting the americans to fight standing up perhaps that was the only strategy that could have worked against the forty year old submission expert as the ballots when they entire distance of three five minute rounds and. i didn't want to
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take any risks because jeff is a very courageous and difficult fights out v i wasn't planning on finishing him off on the ground because i knew how dangerous he is that and he could have taken advantage if i made the slightest mistake i worked very hard on making sure that i'll stand off doesn't end up in ground wrestling one wrong move and the result would have been very different. this was email getting close first ever and then they experience in moscow which certainly pleased the local crowd however there was one special fan in its tendons and martial arts expert himself who probably doesn't take defeats lightly but the russian prime minister vladimir putin had no reason to be upset on the night as he and the rest of the sold out only because it's the return of the last emperor. the fight had to be stopped at one point as jeff monson's face was bleeding profusely after he took several punches from fielder although the american grappling specialist managed to continue the fight and was
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already obvious that he was badly hurt and that was evident in the aftermath of his bout when jeff monson have to be helped by his crew as he was leaving their arena but still are human yet it was all smiles as he probably knew that his return to the summits of mixed martial arts is just around the corner. his next bike is in the hands of his manager and and one global president but think those fine. we would be happy to arrange a rematch with a pretty see over him and other opponents and we're working on that hopefully it will happen soon i cannot tell you the exact date yet but you have to understand that fighters like for you see over them are under contract with other organizations who are not our partners but times are changing and who knows perhaps we'll get an opportunity. whoever fielder is next opponents might be and where ever that now takes place it's already destined to be at so they could draw and it's safe to say that you believe that it goes next appearance is highly anticipated not
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only here in russia but across the atlantic as well room on cost for a r.t. moscow. finally to tennis and andy murray is currently taking on david ferrer in the first of monday's two group a match is at the end of season walter finals in london on one of the three neris taking the number five runs and in the first group being found in round forty four months where the top two from each group of four get through to the semifinals well out of their eight career meetings murray has gone inside but it's four three three farah in the first set while later world number one never drop a bitch will play at number seven on national public and while defending champion roger federer a needed three sets to get past branch manager will feed tsonga in the group being counter the thirty year old who is on a twelve game winning streak coming into this tournament to the first set six to his wife and frontier very ordinary enjoying his performance but tsonga who is up
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to six in the world rankings and stormed back to take next in the same school line there was little between them in the decider but tsongas stumbled on his so that five four down. under his charts. while on holiday i was up against mardy fish in sunday's other group a match the spanish world number two who was recovering from a stomach bug took the first set six two. then stayed on the baseline the second and fish took the initiative is attacking start paying off to take that six three so it went to decide which then went to a tie break and in the dark eventually won that seven five now meanwhile the dollars back to french tennis legend and recent spanish success is due to doping such comments stupid. but that's all the sports news.
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