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market finance. find out what's really happening to the global economy with much stronger no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to cause report on r.g.p. . good to have you with us this is r.t. live here in moscow top stories now protesters demanding egypt's military leadership step down immediately agreed to gas and rubber bullets in tahrir square . pictures from color at the moment here in r.t. officials say at least twenty four people have been killed since friday in the largest demonstration since february uprising that ousted president. also reporting moscow rounds on the west accusing it of provoking violence in syria as some states call for the opposition to avoid dialogue with the government. i love
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them breaks off all financial ties with iran in the wake of a un atomic watchdog group all costing doubt as the motives behind its nuclear aims insists the peaceful. one next here on or to an american counter terrorism expert explains to us why he thinks the u.s. is stoking the war on terror are special to me next i'll be back with some of our main news stories after that. america's war on terror is been going on for ten years now there seems to be no end in sight some experts saying here is that actually reading about work i'm joined by counterterrorism expert. in roth's the man who wrote a book titled bin laden's legacy why we're still losing the war on terror why was the great thing i mean your whole talk about it just give us some key points about why you think the u.s. is losing the war on terror i think the need to look at is the u.s.
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is capacity to stop terrorist attacks as well as its resilience in the face of an attack compared with the end of use ability to strike the problem isn't that al qaeda has become more potent it's not clear that al qaeda has been significantly weakened but it's not clear it's become more potent the problem is that the united states has been significantly eroded over the course of the past decade the economy is of course in shambles with a massive national debt now not all of that is by any means attributable to the fight against al qaeda but more of it is that a lot of people realize including the massive cost of the iraq war the way that the instability that was spurred by that helps drive up oil prices over the national debt as well as direct budgetary outlays and then the opportunity costs the ability after the economy crashed in two thousand and eight to deliver another stimulus package because a lot of this money had already been spent when you look at all of that when you would have had his goal of economically under by the united states i think the conclusion is not that there are that they've destroyed america but it is more
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effective in under by being there it is the kind of need that a lot of people would like to believe oh you're saying the terrorists have defined their strategy is bleeding the united states to bankruptcy and they have some claim this is succeeded in many ways let's talk money a little bit more why do you think the decade long fight against terror has been such a blow for the americans i think that would good look. the return on the investment it's not a great return on investment a lot of the counterterrorism apparatus and policies have been mistreated not totally i mean i do think that doing nothing is also not an option but the key error was the war in iraq which ended up to forty resources away from afghanistan going ormus amount of money was pretty good us a standing in the world beyond that the counterterrorism apparatus that had been erected is a very inefficient one there are so many different secret program the say so many
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different cooks in the kitchen that it's difficult to have any one individual who can determine that there's not duplicated effort this also means that not only our office these are at the iraq war but also our defenses are expensive i think this is a design that can be fixed which is exactly what this is a clarion call for that we need to understand the situation that we're in and move beyond it you know what comes to mind is. the soviet union the war in afghanistan has. it so badly back in the eighty's there you know we very much contributed a lot of thing lessons to be very well this is a lesson that did not put it to a multiple occasions that osama bin laden had been part of the resistance originally as a humanitarian worker in pakistan had a dead he eventually went to the battlefield and got so caught up by that but he ended up leading a team of arabs who fought against the soviets inside of afghanistan now they were
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pretty incidental to the fight it's there are far more afghans there were arabs at any given point inside of afghanistan fighting the soviets but to bin laden this was kind of the parity of how you get a superpower training with the afghan soviet war brought down the soviet union i think it's not entirely clear historically that it did. especially if you did get it it's it's not entirely clear what kind of impact it has historians have mixed views on this given that you're but nine hundred eighty six the afghan soviet war possible of three billion dollars i would want to accept the loss of oil export money as well as green shortages within the soviet union and you will price tag of those far the worth of the afghan soviet war but if the afghan soviet war was a significant contributor it was precisely to get down in that one theater and thus make good on evil for the soviet union to adapt to other crises that if so i think
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they are definitely the best of the middle west and in the first instance because this is precisely how big you just fight against the united states which means that wouldn't when your enemy is so intent on grinding down your economy one thing you have to do is make sure that you don't fall into that trap and the second lesson is that even if expenditure isn't a massive part of your budget it can have an impact and as i said the impact of the actives of it where i found should be historically i further to be a historical question mark but what is indisputable is it certainly didn't help the soviet union and the amount of money that the us has spent over all of the war on terror. even when adjusted for inflation is because much more in terms of sheer quantity. but in afghanistan ok let's think america's are the worst ones that had
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nothing to do with nine eleven of course i'm talking about iraq first of all why spend so much money there is because the worthless rage that it doesn't know how else will spend the money or does the us expect that the words will eventually pay off i don't think there is an expectation that there be a good motto kerry gain from the wars that are going to be rewards of avarice rather i think that the us quite simply addressed to me what was going to happen when the. said at the lead up to the iraq war. very good vibe that there could have been political spin to try to make it more saleable to the public but when one looks at the lead up the estimates given for how much it would cost were rather than the web estimates you had officials talking about how the reconstruction of iraq could pay for itself if that iraq could sell oil on the market naked the road reconstruction so is i think that people just didn't. see what ended up happening in terms of this massive insurgency taking cold it's the
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law of unintended consequences that particularly would you have an added me in a certain area you have to be wary of whatever action it of taking it over theaters specially what that could attack attracting jihad which was noted in advance that that could end up snowballing and end up backfiring against you and that's what happened in iraq ok let's take media and as a campaign unrelated terrorism does in any way contribute to draining the u.s. economically or is it just the war on terror that. i believe that libya does quite obviously i think actually it's much in my view as someone who had opposed the libya tradition from the outset i think it's actually much worse because in fighting against terrorism at least you're fighting it's people who are trying to destroy the country and to kill american citizens were as in libya it was entirely based on humanitarian intervention now there are different views of liberal
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humanitarian intervention but i think that given the economic context that we have in an era of severe austerity we need to be very hesitant about undertaking such an operation particularly given as i said before the law of unintended consequences when one looks back at the situation in libya prior to the beginning of the nato campaign in my view. there was almost no strategic interest at play because market off he was not supporting terrorist groups market off he was not giving up his weapons of mass destruction program this doesn't mean that i'm. sad to see him go he was a terrible ruler he was a brutal dictator and he certainly would have killed a lot of people you know he probably would have killed far more people had better not started bombing the country but to me one of the sad reality is the twenty first century is that there will be humanitarian crisis that the international community is powerless to do anything about and you know in six months or
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a year we'll have a much better idea of how from a strategic interest perspective the intervention in libya has gone you have already concerns that some of the hardest may have gotten their hands on surface to air missiles as part of khadafi its arsenal you have certainly concerns about islamists being able to leave president during the chaos and there's the possibility that could offer loyalists will be able to mount an insurgency all of which you know a year from now could make what's going on look a lot worse in retrospect i hope that doesn't happen but i certainly am concerned and our recent history doesn't really bear out that we're very good at cleaning things up toppling the regime the left is quite clear is always the easy part that's who we're fighting against experiments in your book you suggest ways to build resilience among americans to you know face possible that path but without overreacting can you expand
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a little bit on that what ways are you suggesting resilience is particularly important that it serves multiple purposes not just defending against terrorism but you know we just have to be set by multiple natural disasters including hurricane and earthquake and the like you one thing i put forward that would help to build resilience is basically incorporating individual citizens. into how. the community or a state would react to a terrorist attack or two after it was after the community merchants response team model in phoenix arizona i think it is particularly good in this regard this is something that helps citizens to be less afraid and also to feel like if something goes wrong they can play a role i think it's important to build not just. resilience in terms of infrastructure but also psychological resilience so that we're not sitting here afraid of what happens but we understand that if something bad happens we can play
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a role in fixing it good terms of how big fellow citizens i think that without going to war without waging wars in other countries. first of all wars sometimes necessary often enough i think that for example in afghanistan. the united states had to dislodge the taliban regime that was supporting giving them sanctuary the iraq war obviously. don't you agree with the word libya so so resilience is not something that becomes the end all and be are but i think it is it's an important part of what we do in the twenty first century because you're not going to guarantee that terrorism can never struck thank you you thank
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markets why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy because the reports on our. horses are a lot cheaper to us is the long and egypt middle. pretty the ship stepped down immediately greeted by two gas and rubber bullets and tahrir square would be like pictures from cairo at the moment here party official said these pretty full people been killed since friday and the largest demonstration since country's uprising that ousted president rabbani. moscow rounds on the west accusing it of provoking bottom sincerer some states call for the opposition to avoid dialogue with the government. and london breaks off a financial ties with iran in the wake of if you want to tell me what your report cost in belgium the motives behind its nuclear exchange which tehran insists are
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peaceful. or new stories in this and fifteen minutes from now the meantime kate is next with the sport. and here are the headlines. based in love. love to make a winning comeback. in the champions league. like back in the fall that england captain health l.a. galaxy win the ls title in what could be his final competitive appearance. that was the russians could sail a place in the knockout stage of the champions league if they win and results go their way on french side. stadium on tuesday.
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after claiming four points from two games against arabs and sport strongly in contention to clinch one of the two qualifying places from group b. and in their penalty me the army man will host in their first ever meeting in september to sky were trailing to neil after musar saw and been awarded it is scored in a thirteen minutes bell i was a leaner while in moscow i had side four back to snatch a vital draw thanks to a brace from saved. years coming to me on the back of it to wonder mystically feed to rubin was more than a game compare our previous opponents. control the ball well the french team have their ascend their squad such as eight hours are and i want to direct and eve there are taking they're doing it aggressively however tears can stop goals corridor will need a quick one game suspension while the army. is show no love
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who are still serving if we may have been in the domestic league is really to ridley's do what. as a person who can't really be in bad condition he's patchy form is usually connected not with conditions but with his mental and emotional state it's always hard to predict forwards quality of play but he tried hard and i'm sure he knows about the responsibility that he's a key player and i'm sure wagner will cope with it. discussed still missing four key players duty injuries however tekken need to feel icky so get honda has recovered and ready to help his side as well as a wing at lease or even saw some choice to boost his attacking options where the main difference between our first encounter and the upcoming match is that will miss injured ziran to seach and dounia and we will have to change tactics we'll see if it helps us it will be harder without korea but we are still aiming for a win i mean while leaders are also experiencing some problems with their squad or
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the midfield a bit late and fullback market watcher injury moreover their flight to moscow was delayed and the last teves had to cancel their training session at his car when combined with a home defeat for third place drugs and spore against inter milan which propelled the russian side into the knockout round. despite the fact that blue have managed to clinch the only one champions league win in twelve measures on the road to still going to face a tough test in their last group match at home it says guys manager. will have to do without five key players because they bowed out of. moscow region. staying with the champions league as manchester united will move a step closer to qualification for the knockout stages if they beat ben secret old trafford on tuesday leading group c. from their opponents only on goal difference three would mean like it's three points clear of the portuguese champions with one match left to somehow selection
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problems in defense with captain minute it bound chris mooing injured jonny evans shipments and me i've heard in a while wayne rooney should be fit to play up front if united when and also fail to beat out of the galaxy the red devils will be confirmed as groups in the winners avoiding the other group winners in the round of sixteen parenting home match in the second leg. i think it's always been a top it's no always been the case finishing so james but. with a quote it seems it. does me a great difference if we can make a little difference i think the main advantage to my way. of the second game. meanwhile rail madrid will see your top spot in group d. if they win this and some other countries they a perfect record of who wins from four games not conceding
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a goal is taking way out soon to the round of sixteen but was sealed top spot in the lin did i don't have gets to pick up a point or even small that's the croatian champions types of funny avoiding defeat maybe boosted by injuries to all-stars. oh you were around one hundred years i ring you says he's not still look at us the players. as i was in before i have to make some changes in my team but i don't make the changes because the single game is easy i make the changes because i have some players very very tired very tired and i have to make a change it is not a quick question over a choice these compulsory players very. and napoli host manchester city in group knowing they must avoid defeat against the english premier league leaders to have any chance of reaching the at stages so place napoli are two points behind the city and. i mean the two games to go all city are on
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a nine day winning run in all competitions and. italian side into the europa league had. sadie is confident his side can upset their businesses after drawing one one with city in the first week of group matches. but we know we need to do of course i don't have to tell you my tactics i have to explain that to my players but we need to maximise everything by paying attention to both defense and to tack i believe we have the right stuff to hurt the team as strong as much as the city. staying with the ones over in england harry redknapp should be back in the dugout after heart surgery. aston villa in the premier league this monday night spurs taking twenty two points and twenty fourth and off fifth two games in hand of the top four as they go into the champions league football club have only one dance at white hart lane in a decade after the county faith in the stable zero on sunday when johnson scored
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the eighty seven smit winner's little pull triumph to want to chelsea to a six the defeat was the third in forty games with please manager and legal for us leaving his side twelve points behind just once to city hall meanwhile there's growing speculation structuring this hiddink could end up with a role in chelsea where he won the f.a. cup two thousand and nine in his temper manager the former turkey and russia coach told r.t. he's looking for him going back into the game and north of the emergence of russian side that's journalists who know him only chelsea is more likely option but what i know is that wives go for they were a very good period in the moment i did enjoy it very much living being. and still she does a lot to do it i think. needs to redevelop the team and that's i think. that's something he lives very much to do i think if abramovich wants him to do wanted to
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work for him i think he wants he will do it. in the meantime david beckham helped l.a. galaxy win the m.l.s. title with a one there when i missed in dynamo in what could be his final competitive appearance for the thought of your side's match in the m.l.s. cup final on sunday and ending the seventy first minute thirty six year old back out of what we can find captain landon donovan to school the goal. back and did have a chance to catch a fairytale performance with a goal of his i mean out of time but it was very good it was so huge i tell you hold the victory gave galaxy their first title since two thousand and five second space piece of silverware in america final season of his five year deal its contract is due to expire next month spots to spike lee rings to carry signs of luck but instead take time to decide which plans. there's no rush said that all season i'm not in a rush to decide what happens with we go into all next next weekend
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so we're going to enjoy that and enjoy this week because you know we've worked hard to get to this point so we'll enjoy that and then kick back and enjoy the rest enjoy thanksgiving looking forward to that. and then we'll see. and finally to tennis and andy murray will decide on tuesday whether or not to pull out of the a.t.p. world tour finals after aggravating a growing injury during his straits that defeat to david ferrer world number three maurice that picked up the injury in training a few days after the paris masters and was clearly affected during his last of the zero two arena alarms and farah ranked fifth in the world to the first set six four snarly struggles and then required medical assistance and then the spaniard wrapped up a second seven fight later this monday night well number one i've got djokovic choice by number seven on national. meanwhile on sunday defending champion roger federer needed three sets to get past french and joe wilfried tsonga in the opening group
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being pounds a thirty year old who's only twelve match winning streak coming into this tournament into the first set six to his wife and friend terry already enjoying his performance but tsonga who is up to six in the world rankings then stormed back to take the next set of the same score. there was little between them in the decider but tsongas stumbled on had five four down and federer his chance. while rafael nadal was up against mardy fish and sunday's other great rematch the spanish world number two who is recovering from a stomach bug took the first set six two. stayed on the baseline in the second and fish took the initiative his attacking start paying off to take that six three. so it went to a decider which then went to typewrite eventually won that seventy three meanwhile
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