protesters demanding egypt's military leadership greeted by tear gas and rubber bullets in cairo's tahrir square as the rallies forced the country's cabinet to resign. just last. week i think. it's. all the details i just can't. go around on the west accusing it of hurting prospects of peace talks in syria where violence between protesters and government forces carries on unabated. and iran's banks news corp with londoners to run

feels and mistrust because its way. the u.k. slaps fresh sanctions on iran after concerns over its nuclear program severing all financial ties with the country more details to follow. international news and comment live from moscow twenty four hours a day this is. egypt's cabinet has submitted his resignation to the military rulers this car is tough to square the man in the government steps down at least twenty four people have been killed in three days of clashes in the largest demonstrations since february uprising dictator hosni mubarak. is in country. the mood is incredibly upbeat the people here are very very angry they very frustrated and they say they going no way they put paid to sit what's away been called

a second revolution out many of the protesters i've been talking to say that they paid to die for the cause now we just heard reports that a few people have been badly injured possibly killed there are still radix some violence amongst protesters and security forces it's very difficult to tell exactly what's going on inside as crowds and certainly people are afraid they frightened but people saying that they really have a real sense of making history and making sure that this time the tough here demonstrations will work the violence that we've seen over the last few days has been the worst violence witnessed in egypt some was this last christmas and being able to have the army and the police force to be out of this with many people saying that this violence point to the. generals and the way they operate the army what the sixty's that which they feel that the firing and the fifteen that wasted one and say that is the main reason why the files on the streets despite the

fact that they are part of a free elections the schedule i think the first such elections it was very very first because to say that they did not think that the six will be a fair and that even if if we intention to remain in power most people here in fact all the people have been are still there has been any change of anything anything that's changed except that a period when we saw the first of a nation there was a real sense of hope a real sense of wanting to make a difference country in a sense that it could be achieved there's a lot of despondency there's a lot of disappointment and that's why we're witnessing this outburst of anger and frustration on the streets of taseer square the irony of all of this is that egyptians are mourning that the violence we are witnessing here my. he didn't act excuse for the military counseling how much cheaper spying is it actually so you could see this kind of violence and this kind of out point of anger backfire on

people that he gave a speech or practice just said to be listening to snow and snow been squatting on it stepped up a sign saying it's hot here has to be taken even if this is an inspiration to people that this revolution will succeed. there reporting there from karl let's not talk to dr robert springborg he's an expert on the economy of the middle east joining us live there in the usa this latest news of the cabinets resignation is this a serious gesture from the military that could appease the protesters though because the cabinet has been too weak and too under the. supreme council of the armed forces for any legitimacy in the right so it's been in of i think really in the military look over but. you really need to know does not even have so no it's not a terribly significant event and the real issue is always been so demonstrators are

now calling for him to be removed your position replacing those who should replace him this protest is do you want that military regime to step down but what next i mean who who is likely to replace him i mean it's not obviously going to happen is it really that the military will step down but who should perhaps be there to make the protesters happy. well there are the tunisian model stands in front of us and as you'll recall there the military stepped aside and allowed a temporary council to take control which charted the road map to the elections that were held in october and now the constitution which is being drafted by as a result of the parliamentary elections and belt so this is the model that egypt is have been calling for basically from the beginning and so the. calls for that as the alternative for a presidential council is something about the nature to recharge the transition to

democracy instead of allowing the scow to have reached a roadmap in which military powers would remain for in it. basically i think the consensus know among all the political activists is that that road map really should not stand and that a new one has to be drawn up and so it's a fundamental challenge for the military because once the roadmap goes there's no reason for them to be for it but nevertheless they've made it very clear that they still want to be having some sort of way of pulling the strings behind whatever government is elected and that's surely not what the west wanted in the first place when the bracket was ousted is it and surely the u.s. and nato countries should be supporting this few chess so-called paf to democracy when it actually appears not to be one. well the assumption was that the staff would be true to its mandate it would facilitate a transition within six months which is what it initially promised and so it had

international support on that basis when it became increasingly evident that its intent was other than that and that it was maybe an increase you know position within egypt and that it was prince guy friends pressing various political rights then the egypt supporters including washington begin to distance themselves from the scouts and so the sap is not vulnerable internationally but it's also callable within its within the military and so. you can assume that there are middle ranking officers who are not at all happy with this development with the scout successes and so i would say that right now the staff has a very brittle exposed position and it can either try to crack down hard it would try i don't think it will do that would risk it it fracturing or it could try to sort of play for time both in its roadmap gets back on schedule so i think now

we'll make some tactical sessions in the hall for this road map will be we will be saved through the through the elections that start the week from today but i think it will be very lucky indeed from its perspective if that road map is not torn up and the transition goes ahead under its control dr robert springborg thank you so much for the thoughts going to have you here and thank you. moscow has accused the west of stirring up tensions in the arab world by calling for the overthrow of the syrian regime russia has calls from certain states for the syrian opposition to void down over the government only provoking. he's picked on and as mr ford. what we heard from the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov today was him reiterating russia's position on the ongoing conflict in syria that position is that they want to see negotiations regime change become the final outcome in the conflict so gay lover of color what he called the western calls for assad to step

aside and also for the opposition in syria not to negotiate with assad he called that a provocation saying that that would not bring about peace that would only spur on the opposition to continue the fight for through seem so far over the last eight months as resulted in three and a half thousand people being killed or not country is the laughter of saying that this international provocation should not happened. or seated in syria we're now seeing a situation where the arab league is calling for hulk's of violence and the beginning of july launched in western countries and the capitals of some countries of the region and making calls to the country expressly recommending the opposition hold no talks with the us and regime it looks like a political kind of occasion on an international scale yes violence has to be stopped in the distant land has to be addressed to the authorities and the only groups in the syrian opposition now this isn't the first time it's said gill of law

has accused the west of meddling in the syrian situation now he also suggested that there was a shadowy hand of western governments behind the arab league's decision to suspend syria from their group last week now. of course the last country to be suspended from the arab league before syria was libya and not the situation the in libya the what we saw in libya is something that russia really does not want to see happen in syria also the syrian opposition who are here in moscow last week their leaders also saying they did not want to see a civil outcome is what happened in libya where international intervention took place. that's straight intervention straying well beyond the parameters of un resolutions that were laid down this type of outcome is something that both russia and the syrians want to avoid happening in that country. reporting there still ahead on r.t. this for a conservative solution the new center right leaders take the helm in madrid we

hear the spanish voices doubting whether the new faces will do anything to lead them through mounting debt and sky rocketing unemployment. still to come but first the u.k. has declared it severing all ties with the reigning banks the u.s. has also announced it's joining britain canada and targeting iran's economy with new sanctions over its controversial nuclear program on the planet at the latest from london. the u.k. has imposed fresh sanctions on iran severing all financial ties it has with the country this is come from how the announcement was made by the u.k.'s chancellor george osborne ordering all the u.k.'s financial institutions to stop doing business as of now basically with iranian counterparts including the central bank of iran saying that it is for reasons of national security for the u.k. and also the security of the world now what prompted this move these latest sanctions on iran is the latest report on iran's nuclear program out from the international atomic energy watchdog the i.a.e.a.

who kind of brought fresh concerns that iran is actually using its program to develop nuclear weapons how this is something that iran denies it insists its nuclear program is purely for civilian and scientific use is the first time the u.k. has actually used these powers created under the two thousand and eight counterterrorism act to act in this way and cutoff countries whole banking sector several countries will impose sanctions on iran in the last few years in fact as regards to seek nuclear program and really they haven't had much effect thankfully is one of the story's been rumbling on for a number of years russia is opposing the use of sanctions and this time this latest one is actually russia actually came out and said that should sanctions been pows they'll be seen in the international community as an instrument for regime change in iran that's come from russia's deputy foreign minister and so they strongly oppose any sanctions they say that this report from the i.a.e.a. shows nothing new and therefore why impose fresh sanctions however because the sanctions have been strongly backed up by israel and the u.s. and now certainly the u.k.

is in those calls well for more on this we can talk to david lindorff he's the founding editor of the news blog this can't be happening joining us there in pennsylvania in the states and on the west makes no secret of course of its dislike for the current regime in iran so will these new sanctions and indeed these military threats actually win people support for the government or we can its position their interim. well the sanctions in terms of how they will impact in iran will probably have a negative effect on the u.s. goals of trying to drive a wedge between people in their government and if you look at cuba it's probably because sanctions that have helped keep the regime in power for all these years because people get so angry at the same actions and see them as a threat so i think what you'll see in iran is probably something similar with the rallying people to their to their government and to the you know nationalistic feelings when they're under attack from countries like the

united states and israel believe that iran is next in what many see as western supported arab spring movements. well you know it's clear that there's a lot of dissatisfaction particularly among the middle class in iran with the repressive. parts of the government there in terms of you know the religious sanctions on everybody in any kind of thing so and students have obviously been upset with the way that there are their universities there are periodic really invaded by these religious police and so on so i think yes there's a lot of dissatisfaction and whether it will lead to another kind of arab it would have to be a persian spring and if that's true. yes i mean i think that's very possible we're seeing an. arab spring if you will in the united states i think there's a lot of dissatisfaction with a lot of repression in

a lot of countries. but i think that's a different issue and he's saying sions well almost a decade ago another middle eastern country iraq was playing for secretly creating weapons of mass destruction a claim of course that proved to be false but do you think a similar scenario would be unfolding in iran where they all indeed looking for an excuse for military intervention in their. i think it's very similar i mean all the all the signs are looking exactly like they looked in the period of two thousand and one to two dozen three year in the u.s. with this you know drumbeat of hysteria. and weapons of mass destruction i mean it in the truth is if even if iran were to be building a nuclear bomb. it's probably the threats to iran that are continuously made for example the united states always seeing it every leader of the united states keeps saying all. they're on the table bit seeing that an invitation is on the table and

in israel of course constantly threatening to attack i mean if you really want to get a country to get a nuclear weapon then just keep threatening it with attack and sooner or later they'll do that because it's the best depends they have against an attack just funny you just mention israel constantly threatening to attack iran if it does decide to do that will the u.s. do anything to stop it. that's a good question i mean the united states has the absolute power to stop an israeli attack because all the attacks are done with u.s. weapons and we provided them with the f. sixteen s that would be used for that to carry the bombs and the f. fifteen s that provide hearsay or so if the united states were to say. you can't attack we're we shut down your planes without any more spare parts the attack would not happen so it's clearly israel a being with the authority of the united states if it does attack iran it whatever

the united states might say for public consumption they didn't live there and sylvania the founding editor of the news blog this can't be happening thank you for your time. thank you for having me. spain is shifting right to attempt to balance the books the country's conservatives have won a landslide victory in a general election they now have to tackle record unemployment of over twenty percent and find a way out from underneath a growing debt but as has been hearing the spanish don't hold much hope that the new crew will bring any change this is what the spaniards want from the elections but it's very unlikely they'll get it the popular party may have won sunday's polls but it's highly unlikely period for an easy term the reality of the economic crisis in spain million people out of work but only half million households without a wage earner and the youth unemployment rate which has shot up to nearly fifty percent this is state of affairs the winner will have to deal with what will they really be able to make

a difference. probably not believe ale allard and economics professor at madrid's i even the school we're going to have to cut benefits sharply we may have to differentiate among recipients of benefits we may have to eliminate programs through this can really be. we need anything definite for the welfare state but most spaniards have had enough with budget cuts and empty promises protests by the fifteen m. movement the so-called the dignity marches have been spreading throughout spain since march many people have chosen not to go to the polls on sunday believing politicians will not help the country i think people are being disappointed with the choices they have been all through throughout this campaign really for the last couple of months at least because i think they feel that there isn't a great deal of difference between the two candidates in terms of what they would see and it seems there is no easy way out of the current economic downturn in fact some of the minorities in the parliament believe spain is in a vicious circle. or that it's all policies are being dictated in brussels the

elections will help in creating more jobs it will do the opposite from the public expense will go down purchasing power will go down there will need fewer investments and better slate's into unemployment. and though there may be you face is in the spanish government they will have to deal with the old problems in much the same way meaning nothing is likely to change for spaniards already tired of the economic catastrophe in the country it involves quality madrid. but in a few minutes from now we'll be talking to an american counterterrorism expert who believes the u.s. is losing its decade long war on terror and after that i'll be back with a recap of our top story stay with us here. the big thing.

the big. i'm joined by counterterrorism expert davey gardens in ross the man who wrote a book titled bin laden's legacy why we're still losing the war on terror why with a great thing i think the main thing to look at is the u.s. is the capacity to stop terrorist attacks as well as spares its resilience in the face of an attack compared with the enemy's ability to strike the problem isn't that al qaeda has become more potent it's not clear that arc has been significantly weakened but it's not clear it's become more potent the problem is that the united states has been significantly eroded over the course of the past decade the economy

is of course in shambles with the massive national debt now not all of that is by any means attributable to the fight against al qaeda but more of it is that a lot of people realize according to massive cost of the iraq war the way to peace in the stability that was spurred by that hope to drive up oil prices at the national debt as well as direct budgetary outlays and opportunity costs the inability after the economy crashed into gaza me to deliver another stimulus package because a lot of us wanted already been spent when you look at all of that and we look at all how does call of economic the underbody the united states i think the conclusion is not that there are that they've destroyed america but the david more effective in undermining their enemies a kind of need that a lot of people would like to believe well you're saying the terrorists have defined their strategy is bleeding the united states to bankruptcy and they have some claim it's succeeded in many ways let's talk money a little bit more why do you think the decade long fight against terror has been

such a pillar for the americans i think that would be looks at the return on the investment it's not a great return on investment a lot of the counterterrorism apparatus and policies have been distracted not totally i mean i do think that doing nothing is also not an option but because the key error was the war in iraq which diverted resources. afghanistan plus an enormous amount of money it's was pretty the u.s. is standing in the world beyond that the counterterrorism apparatus that had been erected is a very inefficient. there are so many different secret programs and so many different cooks in the kitchen that it's difficult to have any one individual who can determine that there's not duplicated effort this also means that not only are office things like the iraq war but also our g. fences are expensive i think this is a design that can be fixed which is exactly what this is a clarion call for that we need to understand the situation that we're in and move beyond this. what comes to mind is. the soviet union now we're in again it's then

has. it so badly back in the eighty's there you know it very much contributed to it collapsing lessons to be learned well this is a lesson that did not point to a multiple occasions osama bin laden had been part of the anti soviet resistance originally as a humanitarian worker in pakistan a dead he eventually went to the battlefield and got so caught up by that he ended up leading a team of arabs who fought against the soviets inside of afghanistan now they were pretty incidental to the fight there are far more afghans than there were arabs at any given point inside of afghanistan fighting the soviets but to build large this was kind of the heritage not bad faith of how you get a superpower by training them that the afghan soviet war brought down the soviet union i think it's not entirely clear historically that it did given that you by

ninety six the afghan soviet war cost about three billion dollars whereas i would want to accept the loss of oil export money as well as grain shortages within the soviet union and you will price tag those far towards the afghans of the war but if the afghans are viewed as a significant contributor. to get down in that one theater and just be good and evil for the soviet union to adapt to other crises that so i think there are definitely lessons we will question in the first instance because this is precisely how did you do stand against the united states which means that when when your enemy is so intent on grinding down your economy one thing you have to do is make sure that you don't fall into that trap ok let's take media and as a campaign unrelated to terrorism those those believe in any way contribute to draining the u.s. economically or is it just the war on terror that has all the dreams i believe that

libya does quite obviously and i think actually it's much it in my view as someone who had opposed the libya intervention from the outset i think it's actually much worse because in fighting against terrorism at least you're fighting against people who are trying to destroy your country and they kill american citizens whereas in libya it was entirely based on a humanitarian intervention now there are different views of liberal humanitarian intervention but i think that given the economic context that we have in an era of severe austerity we need to be very hesitant about undertaking such an operation particularly given as i said before the law of unintended consequences when one looks at the situation in libya prior to the beginning of the veto campaign in my view there was almost no strategic interest at play because more market awfully close not supporting terrorist groups will work it off he was not you he give up to

up to mass destruction program this doesn't mean that i'm. sad to see him go he was a terrible ruler he was a brutal dictator but to me one of the sad reality is the twenty first century is that there will be humanitarian very serious that the international community is powerless to do anything about and in six months or a year we'll have. a much better idea of how from a strategic interest perspective the intervention in libya has gone you have already concerns that some jihadi is may have gotten their hands on surface to air missiles as part of could off its arsenal you have certainly concerns about that would islamists being able to leave prison during the chaos and there's the possibility that could off the loyalists will be able to mount that insurgency all of which you know a year from now can wait what's going on look a lot worse in retrospect our recent history doesn't really bear out that we're very good at cleaning things up toppling the regime the less is quite clear is

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