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do the. are in the or mouths to feed where will the food come from you can science provide the answers the future of under the microscope. we've done the future of. our five thirty pm on tuesday here in moscow the headlines now an artsy straight like a just for you i said thousands of angry egyptians refused to leave her rear square as our calls continue for the end of military rule here on our t.v. for hours now we've been watching the crowds grow vastly in size and numbers earlier. said tens of thousands were in attendance seem tens of thousands but it's all also saying a live ammunition has been fired at protesters and the latest update is the former
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head of the u.n. international atomic watchdog mohamed el baradei has agreed to form a new government. moscow gets out of the u.s. first slapping more sanctions on iran over its nuclear ambitions saying it contradicts international law and will hurt prospects for talks the u.k. kind of have also announced today cutting all ties with her own ranks. and three crew members accomplished out of this world mission on their feet firmly on the ground after six months in the russian american and japanese space travel is a band-aid on a step of kazakhstan you know russian soyuz capsule. so the headlines here and now as russia prepares to go to the polls on the fourth of december to elect members of the state duma spotlight host al going off talks to cannot be good for the pretty head of the russia party that's next.
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hello again and welcome to the fog like they enter the shelter and i actually i'm out we're not going to we're confining our election away here and this summer for russia is going to renew and spark seven toffees back i'm training for the four hundred fifty seats in the lower chapters of the state to go under the new law that has been true office will be five years not for ten as the campaign goes on but like give me a unique opportunity to hear from all the parties today my guest is here live new far from the party called the fair russia. the kremlin blessed the creation of the fair russia party five years ago state controlled opposition that's how it used to be described than i was soon the crimean withdrawal would support
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well russia party had to depart from its native sure it never reached the opposite one it's almost stuck in the middle criticizing the ruling party but never going too far in its criticism of the fair russia party's leader sergei mironov has long been part of the country's political elite for ten years he was chairman of the upper house of the russian parliament and the party's founding meeting in two thousand and six cindy miron of expressed support for vladimir putin's causes the party became associated with the crown that association worked well for fair russia which could result in the march two thousand and seven regional elections. before parliament for election in the same year the kremlin announced its support for the united russia that's believed to have hard to bear russia's popularity. in the two thousand and seven do my likes and i just managed to overcome the second percent
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threshold. party has become harsh criticism of the ruling united russia party the coming elections there with smoke. and the party bigger representation. of think you very much for coming to our show since we have a global audience and it's not limited to russians living around the world let me start with foreign policy is there anything your party would like to change in russia's foreign policies or are you completely happy with them here there are many things in russia's foreign policy we're not happy about most importantly russia should say turns are great and so the european community. should be harmonized with european laws and generally i think we should try to become a part of europe in every way and that is what our policy wants well the only
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possible currently has a working relationship with the european parliament is that we're maintaining contacts with our fellow social democrats and the head of the workers sponsible for that. believe that russia is a part of europe people often fail to understand that europe is the credible us or less asian our story the statement of science anyone but it is true. because a civilization egypt or china or civilization came from europe i see modern civilization old and civilization came from europe and we are fortunate because of europe we are fortunate that our scientists saw it has a right as a part of european civilization we have to take advantage of our geographic situation and historical positions because of political parties small parties and not talking about the likes of united russia i think the opposite they claim that russia has its own historical destiny and that it has to face up to outside threats and pressure and we safely say that you are is the only party in russia that advocates euro integration. yes you could say that's where the only party that not
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only at. case there's things but actually works to make them happen so i guess you support the idea of. no actually were against out russia has nothing to gain from the w.t. o. russia is a commodity driven economy commodities accounting for ninety three percent of our exports we understand perfectly well that commodity trade is not regulated by the w t o the only sectors that would benefit from it would be those that export metals and minerals and a few other industries. products. other businesses are going to face tough competition now that's why we're joining the doublets hero in such a hasty manner i think that russia should have bargained for a sense of transition periods we are however in favor of integrating with europe on matters of democracy electro laws the penitentiary system human rights and education. to harmonize ation of many other laws that would ultimately let russians feel like they're part of europe. they're also in favor of gradual formally common
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humanitarian and economic space for europe we will work towards that. contain season is a time of promise is in populous the many russian politicians today i thought about a threat to russia coming from abroad namely from the west. see any threat. there is some distrust to nato too so the fact that nato itself doesn't have a clear position on russia we're talking about integration yet at the same time they are deploying the troops and missile defense systems. is there a threat potentially in the long term yes as for current threats from the west i do not think there are any and the reason for that is very simple russia's political and bureaucratic elite send their children to study in the west their families live in the west they have property in western countries. how can they criticize the
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west when their oversleep clan insulator. the only real threats to russian security that i see today comes from our own corrupt salit and the fact that they're completely dependent on the west with another threat has the lack of a proper food policy which results in russia having free imports seventy percent of its food and. russia's dependence on pharmaceutical imports. ninety percent of all medicines are imports those are the main threats. russia has always been its own worst enemy i'm sorry to say if russia collapses one day it will be due to our own internal contradictions but. i have been saying for a long time now that if things stay the way they are we will come say very dangerous and fundamental crisis which this is because you are a member of parliament you have been with the party for many years now when you party was first formed it was called a position party put together by the kremlin and project designed to show russia
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and the rest of the world there we have a multi-party system is it true that your relations with the kremlin has seriously deteriorated really key. our conflict with the kremlin was inherently present from the very start of the kremlin council for to this person it's administrative clouds between several parties. russia has been it was with the kremlin from day one. we had to show different results at elections we had to fight we had to criticize the kremlin and the ruling party i suppose intellectual violations and abuse. so object away we were in a situation where the conflict could only escalate it has been getting worse and worse and it will get worse tail therefore stay strange as it may seem we're more of an opposition party than the older p.r. of the communist party which is an include people from the presidential team and their ballots. let me give you a simple example i proposed to all the other parties to conduct
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a joint rolly for fair elections on november twenty sixth i appeal to the candid as of all the parties there were four of us the first yabloko right because there russia and the liberal democrats. the communists refused straight away they must have been warned against it by someone. but then we started getting mixed messages from the older p.r. . and then the other party started getting threats. for instance boris nadezhda in was on the right cause ballot said he was prepared to bring his supporters to the rally. leaders and his party told him. that if you go through the facts with me to announce the rally or you will be taken off the ballot immediately and many politicians talk about the election in these terms you see this party was told to do this their party was warned against that when you see this i mean that
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those recommendations come from the coming of course not only. will it be seen in some people close to the kremlin it seems like you are all in theater and they are the rhetoric. against say that formally the kremlin controlled all political activities. but it can no longer do today has it is getting weaker criminal officials are not the only ones influencing politics. and ministers and officials play a big role in it too for example recently i got hold of a speech by governor grove of the most egregious governor right he was meeting with his subordinates and it is a sure piece of live made outrageous statements that were totally unconstitutional . so governors mayors local officials they're all working to give one party a competitive advantage over others to make sure it remains the ruling party. so it is not just the grumbling many local officials are doing this as well. as you
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just said something that our audience me consider terrible he said the regime is getting weaker but russia is a vast country with nuclear weapons to some extent you are part of this regime so we have a member of this regime saying it is weakening isn't that dangerous for the world. i think dictators like a dolphin and saddam hussein posed a much greater danger for the world i think the energy in a country like russia or china or the us would be much worse i only said that the current regime is getting weaker which means the opposition is getting stronger we are ready to take the responsibility and power we are ready to form a government i have long been suggesting to various political forces especially left wing parties to form a coalition that will enable us to nominate our own candidates for prime minister deputy prime minister and other ministerial positions you are really not hoping to collect more than twelve to fifteen percent of the vote at the election less than
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the same is taking power in the country no opposition party would be able to solve this problem on its own that is why i am suggesting the coalition it was a coalition rally that we call for. parties should stand together because in a there and find ways to put pressure on the regime of course inertia and administrative clout clearly give united russia an advantage or disadvantage is not as the size it as it may say it is possible that all opposition parties combined might be to united russia at the upcoming elections. if we were united we would be able to nominate our own candidates for prime minister. before that so happen we need to consolidate our efforts. that is one of my proposing to we need to stop fighting for both percentages insult fighting for power. but i miss the parties have to go through parliament to get power conduct reforms and develop the country just to find a political naish this is real stability
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a rotation of power in western countries is never regarded as a sign of weakness which is what socialists are replaced by the conservatives the conservatives are replaced by the label policy this does not mean that the country's getting weaker but if anyone needs the army says good night you could call it if you had over the affair brush up parliamentary spotlights will be back shortly after a break so stay with us then go. see .
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the league. to play. to. the beasts of. the book. come up. welcome back to spotlight. just a reminder that my guest on the show today is getting the group called one of the
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leaders are the fair russia political party competing for the war. the russian part. is a good cause he just said it was possible that all of his asian parties combined would receive more votes in the coming election than united russia many people are saying the ruling party will loosen things in the parliament actually calling this election however this is what happens every time the liberal intelligentsia tells the opposition you should forge a common front against the ruling party every time the opposition party say they are ready to fight for power yet the opposition has remained scared for many many years what does this mean that opposition parties are not really eager to take power they are just happy to occupy their nieces like you said. yes unfortunately you're right the opposition is poorly united they have always been in favor of integration i'm on opposition parties. why aren't they listening
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to other opposition parties tell you when you propose an alliance. you know it's different for every policy the communists say for example that they're well established policy and that we need their support more than they need ours i think the problem is that people are forgetting that they're responsible for their country if things keep going the way they are now i do not think the current regime or the country will last for more than three or four years before a serious crisis breaks out. an interesting thought just struck me i haven't thought about it for about twenty years a situation where five seven or ten parties are running for parliament usually occurs at first or second election in a new established system. russians have free elections who are twenty years in still we cannot come to steve bipartisan or try prison system why. this is clearly there is eames fault the russian constitution puts the executive branch above other branches of our cords so weak judges are appointed the parliament is
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inefficient because exercise oversight comes in best akkad they come form the cabinet or have a say in staff decisions. that's why the executive branch is dominant and the parliament and political party is a fairly helpless. people with your party's leader. that's what passes a lot growing add to that unfair elections violations lack of public debate very weak democratic institutions and the suppression of several initiatives. all these things are preventing parties from growing and becoming more influential in your party's leaders thirty neuronal was the speaker of the parliament's upper house for many years. to be the third highest ranking official in the country is it fair for you to criticize the authorities right now. the upper chamber is a bad example as a least half of the senators are directly appointed by the executive branch the current procedure is that senators are nominated by governors of the upper chambers
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members have been appointed by governors who were in turn appointed by the government but naturally the credibility of such an upper tender is questionable and whoever is in charge of it and up or transfer compose in this way would only support decisions that are already backed by the government and the rest of russia services are members of united russia the ruling party. let us talk about the promises he has made you said that you always from a few old promises you meek during your election campaign i have known you personally for a long time as a politician and i can confirm that you really do fulfill all your promises let's look at what you are promising this time with higher wages. how is that past. easily how is it possible when russia can barely keep inflation below the critical level you're forgetting that an amount of money comparable to russia's entire budget some three hundred billion dollars is stolen by russian officials every year it goes into their pockets and then brings us to your second premise defeating
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corruption russia has not been able to defeat corruption in the past four hundred years it is not the officials cannot do it just to warn everybody knows that. finland used to be a part of russia now it has one of the least corrupt governments in the world but the government doesn't want to fight corruption years and finish or scandinavian or european or american methods or even take fighting corruption because many of russia's top officials benefit from corruption. but if nobody said he wants it if you corruption this it actually means you've given an empty promise no you're talking to the author of the plea on parliamentary oversight the beauties of been talking about this for seventeen years but i did it but he still need the parliament can exercise oversight. my bill would fix that but the parliament has been afraid of even reading it for three years now three years if our party comes to power we will work on a completely different platform we will introduce the real separation of powers we
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will make all government officials accountable it will require them to make their incomes and spending transparent push for the ratification of all school trends here at the convention against corruption which calls for criminalization of illicit enrichment and the freezing of also spacious assets that an official cannot prove they acquired legally this is what we propose if these changes are made we will see a truster drop in corruption it would give us a tremendous source for funding social programs investing in the economy etc the average cost of road construction in russia is seventeen point five million dollars per kilometer we're speaking to a worldwide audience i think if any of your. work and road construction they will understand it is more expensive than in finland much more expensive other states finland or sweden you've mentioned social programs yours is a social democratic party therefore you can do a heavily unprofessionally unions meanwhile there are virtually no labor unions in
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russia right now where have they gone. the unions like all of the surveillance situations have been suppressed by the regime if you keep talking about civil society right society cannot spring up and environment plans cannot grow in acidic soil. you cannot swim across a pool of a setting because you would never reach the other end it is the same in this case we need to create the right environment for unions for independent media and for the opposition it is usually the opposition that exercises parliamentary oversight or plan introduce that but we need political power to make the changes that powers what we want we don't want a leash of nine or ten or fifteen or twenty percent we want power coalition government or one formed by social democrats that will enable us to change the country we are on the stage doing this commission security. as a committee community and think you know security has become one of the major
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issues in this election campaign people are afraid to walk the streets these days children have stopped playing outside we cannot let a woman go with alone at night unless you walk them from door to door. it is not quite that bad at least in big sur the problem is serious. yes all the upscale houses in moscow are fenced off and there is a guard at each gate he works most young men go for these days is a private security guard we have had this police report in russia. as you said in a quote the only positive outcome of this reform was the police officers were able to improve their findings. steyning why has reform failed and what do you suggest we can do to conduct a proper reform yes i have been against the way the reform was conducted ever since i started as the biggest mistake was put in the reform the agency in charge of the reform. bureaucrats with many reforms they're scared of changes and will inevitably
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ruin it. should be responsible then. what i suggested was a former presidential working group to devise a reform plan and the responsible for it will include representatives of various political parties experts n.g.o.s and civil society institutions i propose a completely different procedure for re-enlistment was absolutely transparent i proposed public oversight because government agencies in russia are not supervised by anybody except the government itself. we have no parliamentary public or media oversight. in that situation the reform actually did not lead to the results that some may have may believe believed it would lead. us to use another quote of yours here russia suggests adopting a direct action eighty corruption law that would equate bribery and treason.
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that's right do you mean it smacks of too theory is it's like when the kind of hands for stealing. if you know. let me tell you how laws are enforced in russia. according to the supreme court eighty five percent of convictions in russia are for bribes of not more than one thousand roubles this means that officials who take bribes are hardly ever convicted. cases fall apart. russia's laws on corruption very mild and vague and it is easy for corrupt officials to avoid punishment. this is why we should regard bribery as a crime against the state. at least morally. if an official does not serve his people and his country that you know. if he sets up a crime ring to line his pockets this is definitely a crime against the state and the people don't know that he finally the two thousand and twelve presidential election is coming up with irrational many
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candidates and would be in a similar run of we have not decided on a candidate yet there are several prominent people in the party and i think we will have a heated discussion and make a decision on that in the near future does anyone have any chance against putin in russia today. only for position forces and various movements form an annoyance which is again unlikely. we recently had a congress of security forces veterans they propose nominating a people's candidates from both political parties and the general public would support she's not at the what do you mean the popular front no of course know what i'm talking about their opponents of the popular front. with any they want to put together a list of reasonable charismatic leaders. appeal to everyone and that could run against putin in the two thousand and twelve elections that will please you with all the good luck thank you thank you very much for being with us in just
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a reminder that my guest today was good that he would call for deputy that fair russia parliamentary group and one of the leaders of the fair russia party and that's it for now for all the spotlight will be back with more personal comments out of what's going on in that cycle until then the local can take as it.
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