tv [untitled] November 23, 2011 9:00pm-9:30pm EST
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oh i'm sorry washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture why friday is less than forty eight hours away from us thanksgiving but could there be an upside of the shopping frenzy that seems to have overshadowed our only truly american holiday. that's fourteen down and thirteen more to go scheduled primary debates that is and although there were no major gaffes in the last night's national security debate on c.n.n. there always is no shortage of scary moments and
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a welcome to an america where more than half of all our children live in economic and security unfortunately i am not speaking in hypotheticals. you need to know this tomorrow is the thanksgiving holiday that is increasingly being recognized in america as a plaque friday a day in which families all across the country gather stuff themselves full of food and spend the rest of the day plotting which trans national retail giant billabong rush at the crack of dawn to fill or shopping carts full of markdown plasma t.v.'s hottest new kids for the kids' toys and super cheap toaster ovens. it's really is an american tradition but this year one corporation up enough well it's a marketing thing they're trying to change that american express they're calling
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for a black friday shopping frenzy to be extended into saturday but with a catch and that is on saturday you should only buy stuff from local businesses not the big chains know wal-mart not best buys not target but from the independent non pop shops that are in today's economy frankly an endangered species in fact american express is offering up to twenty five dollars in credit to the customers as long as they promise to buy something at a local business they're calling their campaign small business saturday they call it. small businesses are the lifeblood of our communities on november twenty sixth made a huge impact by stopping small and small business saturday one thirty one purchase is ok so if you pay for the business and. i played chop shop i think obviously now would you be to make the push ups the shops will be sent. a notice
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all those small businesses that are highlighted that video if current trends continue pretty soon they'll be gone and instead they'll be replaced by transnational giants like these guys so this is a good move i mean it's a lifeline to america's struggling small businesses sure american express will make like a huge. profit off the campaign but arguably it's for the greater good because whether people realize it or not giant transnational corporations are eating their towns. for example when you were an art opens up for every job that's created one and a half jobs are lost that's just more than eighty five percent of all the stuff sold and all of art is manufactured with cheap labor overseas so wal-mart can undercut and put out of business all the small local retailers around town laying off hundreds of people who used to make good money and then rehiring them to where
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wal-mart best and collect a near minimum wage paycheck and don't expect wal-mart or best buy's or any other retail giant to do their banking at the local banks they go to the giants on wall street so all the profits that are made don't get recycled back into the community as they do when small local businesses thrived on main street instead every night when the big chain store closes it's like a button gets pushed in the money gets sucked like a giant vacuum right out of town right to wall street or wherever that transnational giants headquarters are which more and more often is a tax haven like the cayman islands and these transnational mega corporations they really really don't give a damn and all of the local communities are devastated those communities are just places to suck out more and more money by destroying more and more smaller family and local businesses that's why it's necessary to join in on small business saturday or some variation on it with or without the word spreads for one day to
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disregard the great sales and instead reinvest back in your community that frankly i think is what we should all do and all the time but that's not all we need to do we need to also get our legislators involved in fixing the underlying problem of why corporations have gotten so big and that means calling your local lawmaker and telling them to start enforcing something called the sherman antitrust act again. the sherman antitrust act has been around for a long time i wrote about this my book an equal protection act was passed back in eighteen nineteen. it the penalty for violating the sherman antitrust or first of all the sherman antitrust act is all about basically what it says is that if companies behave in a way that is anti-competitive if they if they organize in such a way that the smaller companies can't start or can't compete with them if they
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become so big that they can squash a small company like a bug then they can get dissolved to get broken up into smaller pieces and if they refuse to do that it's up to ten million dollars fine nowadays it's one hundred billion dollars fine up to three years in prison for their executives and sums and triple damages if you sue them and. not criminal court and so this is the surety antitrust act and its variations there could be a claim and others that followed it have worked pretty well for about one hundred years from the eight hundred ninety s. until the one nine hundred eighty s. they laid the groundwork for an entrepreneurial boom in the middle of the twentieth century the forty's the fifty's the sixty's the seventy's the eighty's it created a bustling and unique mean streets all across america but now it's like every main street is the same we've been here before but i know for only three
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hundred companies controlled more than eighty percent of american industry we had you know it was there was that too big to fail to get it got huge president teddy roosevelt came in off the states you know one by ninety four he was calling himself the traps with trust buster presidents have to follow them followed suit in one thousand eleven they broke up the standard oil company thirty three companies that the american tobacco company f.d.r. in just one year nine hundred forty had more than eighty anti-trust lawsuits against major american corporations breaking them down. in order to allow main streets to flourish back in the forty's the fifty's the sixty's and seventy's america's main streets were unique jack kerouac wrote this book on the road one thousand nine hundred fifty one about a road trip from new york city to the west coast of mexico every city had its own character because it had its own businesses but then ronald reagan came along in the one nine hundred eighty s. and he basically in eighty three eighty four defunded the federal trade commission
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that would prosecutes the sherman antitrust act and the department justices offices that look into it i trust and so ninety four ninety five were the peak years in the history of the united states for mergers and acquisitions the m. and a frenzy it was referred to at the time the supreme court got into the act in a case called nuts a sheet electrical industrial company versus zenith radio make it harder to prosecute under the sherman act so now every major industry in america is dominated by six or fewer giant corporations for example just like a banking six banks control assets equal sixty five percent of the entire nation's g.d.p. seven trillion dollars you could now jump out of an airplane at four hundred forty thousand feet and land anywhere in the country and not have any idea where you are because every mile looks the same every downtown looks the same because of these giant corporations that have taken control of retail foods you know you name it and this is not competitions no sort of free market particularly since these
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corporations have gotten so big that they can buy congress if their own clubs the business roundtable the hundred largest c.e.o.'s u.s. chamber of commerce. they they make huge political donations so it was a good start but it's not enough we need to break up the big monopolies. just to. get by for the good the bad of the very very an addict sickly ugly good or a good governor john kids are going to get sober joining the growing list of other governors around the nation who've suspended their use of the death penalty in their state this decision came ahead of the december sixth scheduled execution of gary haugan who recently waived his rights to appeal to protest an unjust justice system defending his decision to no longer allow executions in oregon governor kitzhaber said i simply cannot participate once again in something that i believe
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to be morally wrong. even though some in the state of call the governor howard for his decision it's auburn is making the right call and other governors especially that guy in texas should be list. for bad operation burn notice this anonymous group mostly on facebook is apparently carrying out a coordinated effort to sabotage the wisconsin effort to recall governor scott walker over the weekend the group posted a message bragging about how they've destroyed over one hundred thousand signature petitions already during this recall that caught the attention of the organization one wisconsin no aggressive group leading the recall walker campaign that has now offered up a reward for operation burn notice i should for information it. is worth mentioning that destroying petitions as operation burn others claims it's done is a felony it can lead to three years in prison so let's find these bombs and lock
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him up. and the very very ugly liberty university last week the school's board of trustees reversed the gong. standing ban on guns allowing students to now carry concealed firearms on campus this is the same school doesn't let students watch r. rated movies attend dances or perks but now they can walk around with a glock in their pants to make matters worse liberty university's chancellor jerry falwell jr defended the decision by evoking what happened it with jenny attack thirty three people were massacred when a student brought guns on campus fell well so far well said if something god forbid ever happened like what happened at virginia tech there would be more than just our police officers who would be able to deal. i somehow doubt this would have been the solution that jesus would have advocated confronting violence by arming our young people see if that's very fairly.
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crazy alerts don't drink the water the mayor of the peruvian city of horror me thinks he knows what causes homosexuality and that is drinking tap water while standing outside a new water treatment plant near jose beneath as a reference to the high levels of strontium in the local water supply and said unfortunately strontium reduces male hormones and suddenly will be as below so this as other towns where the percentages are increasing of homosexuality or into a limb and used in the town to have a loss' most of a population of fourteen thousand. years of college and women were quick to prove they are benita is wrong however noting the strontium in the water increases the risk of cancer it has nothing to do with homosexuality i guess the real question though is when was rick santorum in peru and what did he tell me are the details. coming out the g.o.p.
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presidential contenders were out in full force again last night for what was supposed to be a debate on foreign policy my panel why the war drums drowned out any real serious talk of foreign problems. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to put it through who can you trust no one who is you know view with the global machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.
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last night republicans gathered in washington d.c. for their eleventh debate so far this one hosted by c.n.n. and a bunch of koch brothers refunded conservative think tanks like the heritage foundation the american enterprise institute and a focus on foreign policy most of the candidates on stage aside from ron paul and jon huntsman try to one up each other on who would support israel more and who take a tougher stance against iran and syria and then strangely the candidates each to hype up the threat of as well a teaming up with socials in latin america. we know that hamas and hezbollah are working and mexico as well as iran i'm very concerned about these militant
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socialists and there and the radical islamists joining together bonding together i'm concerned about the spread of socialism we have right now hezbollah which is working throughout latin america in venezuela in mexico throughout latin america which poses a very significant and imminent threat to united states history all those all those catholics in south america they're really going to and even in reality the biggest economic threat for america unrestrained global free trade for multinational corporations wasn't even mentioned and neither was the ongoing financial crisis in europe so it wasn't so much a foreign policy debate in reality it was awarded for a round up of analysis of what happened last night while some of the other big issues of the week about to bring in my panel joining me now is vince collin a senior online editor of the daily caller and eric burns former president he had matters current strategic communications consultant part partner of bullfight strategies guys thanks for joining us thanks for others thanksgiving what do you what do you what are you thankful for prince well i have every reason to be thankful my brother's fresh back from doing route clearance in afghanistan so he
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had the luxury of finding i.e. these sometimes the hard way a couple times and i'm just grateful to have him back he's in good shape and it's a great time for him to be back to that thanksgiving. my dad passed away last year so the tough year i've played without my family you know together with me this thanksgiving and look forward to kind of a new beginning and. let's let us let us hope it's a good year for us to get your disease it's going to be going to be a while this was a debate this was my favorite part of the debate new gay marriage and ron paul you know taking it out over the patriot act this was just incredible to take a look at this little bit of political theme a very killed a lot of americans i don't want to know that says after we lose you made. the american city we're sure going to come and find you i want a law that says you try to take out american cities we're going to show you this is
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what i see there we need a policeman in every house a camera in every house because we want to prevent child beating in how and why beating you can prevent crimes by becoming a police state so if you have to hate the police state yes you can have safety and security and you might prevent a crime but the crime then will be against the american people and guess our freedoms if we will throw out so much of what our revolution was fought for so don't do it so carelessly so you know vince a i think that if barry goldwater were alive he'd be right there with ron paul and all of the other republicans would be considered outliers for the historic republican party that's why i think you know what you have is historically and if you want to pull all the way back is this debate has been happening since the days of the barbary pirates where we balance whether or not we have liberty or security and it's not and there's i don't think there's a binary formula there i think there's a balance obviously ron paul is far in the direction of liberty he's very forward
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and we need ron paul's and the republican party to be able to bring that guides back and make that conversation a part of it but at the same time just accepting i think new gamers part of a great point the fact is you have to be vigilant from a security standpoint to protect against folks like timothy mcveigh it's better to have prevention than it is to have chased out of here but it's a patriot act where the f.b.i. can just write write a letter and they're not to worry about judges they don't have you know the it's and i think it's a serious problem i think it's un-american i think it goes against the very ideals of what we want this country to be and i agree with that yes prevention is the key but i actually have to say i came down much closer ron paul was you know that i think is a false choice this notion that you have to have you know liberty or security i think that we can have both and i think if we want to be the america especially to the. rest of the world we have to find a way to do that but it's just that there's actually something ok with having a little insecurity and having more liberty. you know i guess i'm with ron paul
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well i hate i hate to be in fact that's what that's what this is this is not of this show is not about that but i do agree with you i think a little risk is worthwhile especially when you have you know i think conservatives and republicans more importantly now because blogging about the hazard of their debating i think they have to figure out a way to be consistent in their arguments when they talk about the patriot act and the idea that they want to keep the patriot act and sat and then they turn and they say we can't have children scream to airports because somehow that requires that there be an exception i think that there are ideologically not consistent they need to find a consistency if you think that if they define a constituency that protects the republicans we go for it i don't know you know bill clinton was involved in a lot with the republican party is supportive of my guess is politics is politics people like to be against each other just because of the party their associated with but ultimately at the end of the day when it comes down to a question of security the patriot act has many elements that haven't answered security dramatically and hence leading to actually stopping many terrorist attacks
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in the years following nine eleven and that was. what we know and we know that in the vicinity of what what we've been told the writer is absolutely right what we've been telling you but we were told a lot of things by the bush administration that it was be true i mean not to be overly argumentative with russia is the case and i thank. you very much i want to i mean i really really question you know what we don't know how far the patriot actually goes i think they really are i don't know that any of us really really understand this is. the n.s.a. is doing and i think the when we start talking about degrading our fundamental rights as americans that's a serious serious problem because that cuts to the core of who we are as a people as a nation and you said it best when you talk to you know we need to live with a little bit of risk well the alternative and maybe all of this is new you know how but the issue is when you talk maybe that's why i say that because the fact is ultimately it's been around for quite a while now if there. issues with the patriot act litigation is where that those problems should've been taken care of or have to go to the legislation. but now
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going back to this issue of who we are as as people newt kind of stepped in and here's what you had to say last night i thought this was. i do not believe that the people united states are going to take people who have been here a quarter century who have children and grandchildren who are members of the community who may have done something twenty five years ago separate them from their families and expel them i don't see how the power of the party that says it's the party of the family is going to adopt an immigration policy which destroys families that have been here a quarter century and i'm prepared to take the heat for saying let's be humane in enforcing the law. and. you have to take heed to be humane to be republican. yes he's a former only i guess you do. look at what rick what happened to rick perry where he came out and said we need to have a heart and was essentially advocating for the same thing the newt gingrich was talking about it was
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a hasten the demise of his presidential bid so what we're really hearing rested up and different new dress a different language that's absolutely true but it's the same thing but what rick perry did that was offensive to voters and by he declined in the polls is that he came out of the gate saying they were heartless he cues them right out the gate of not being on his side which is not a way to court voters and meanwhile new said fine i'm going to take the arrows for this and i think you know people with the crap judgment we got i was live tweeting last night for daily caller dot com i really decided not to mention it but i was laughing last night and then i asked conservative tweets tell me tweets mean people tweet tell me do you think that this is an offensive stance that newt gingrich is taking this is does that offend your sensibilities overwhelmingly conservatives were actually kind of plays that really well somebody had to say the fact is there are realities in the situation we're dealing with is reagan who do even ration to the immigration eighty that's absolutely right because it takes nuance but the this republican party is completely forgotten whatever legacy there was really going to be i think that the reagan would be rolling over his grave if he saw what this
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party was with this republican party was doing in the name of ronald reagan and you know this is this is an issue that the republicans and conservatives have been absolutely movable on you know with the exception of george w. bush and those are hillary for electrified the bases i want to play this missile defense in alaska i do want to tell you i'm from texas that's not going to work i do want to know what they're doing and it's that newt gingrich today became the media's i mean stream media is biggest friend because all of a sudden they said well this guy sounds sensible and you know i do want to. cite the fact that the media can sort of has its predispositions and he can't always be trusted to all there are now on and he said it was coming from you know you would know that he'd like to move a slow dock occupy wall street there was there was hardly any mention of that last night chris was a foreign policy debate but on the other hand. by wall street has gone international and arguably what we're seeing is something that started in two or square game here you can make that argument or not in any case we're seeing more videos of police brutality u.c. davis oakland seattle president obama was might check by these people yesterday you
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know they interrupt the speech that he was giving it was brought to his attention the four thousand of these patriots have been arrested and none of the banks are in jail unlike by the way during the reagan administration where he threw a thousand banks years in jail for the s. and m. so so the question. in the case of police brutality here we've got this well this is the video but lieutenant pike john pike the guy who sprayed the pepper spray on these people in these kids' faces shouldn't this guy be charged with a so yes without a better without question i mean these were students there were exercising their constitutional right to you know civil disobedience peace peaceful demonstration they were sitting indian style on their college campus on public around. and i think there's it's inexcusable the way that they were treated in the way that we actually treat in this country today more broadly you know public protests i mean it's actually completely different of our vince is the bad guys you know the who
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the military junta in egypt so we're just you know we're just quoting ourselves to the standards as we see on t.v. of the way they're teaching treating our western clearly police forces should exist in order to represent the security of the people first and foremost and not to the net effect and. no but what i'm saying is that if prosecutions the question if you think i think that actually could be kind of interesting to see and prosecute because i'd like to see how the courts would take that on i think the question of the resistance involved the amount of legal disobedience that were there was involved with a protest or there's a cloud like there's a legal doctrine here police officers and any police officer can tell you that i went through the georgia i'm a graduate of the georgia police academy i got i know it was a police officer is allowed to use force up to and. just beyond the force necessary to subdue a subject or whatever subject is being pushed at you by the subject you can push back up to that level and whatever is necessary to stop the process so these non-lethal forms of violence of what we see with this guy with the pepper spray
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we're supposed to replace bull it's you know to stop people in their tracks we're not supposed to respond place dragging somebody's office i will be clear as a guy is revealed with clearly way overdue but remembered i want to make sure this is said and i've said this before on your program the fact is at the end of the day i mean you i think you're right i think that police have gone too far in this i mean one of our own reporters was but tom would buy a new york police officer while covering these things while in new york city clearly police have overstepped their boundaries in many instances along through this occupy wall street saga but what i will say is that you didn't see tea partiers experience that's and the reason is because they sought out legal permits they sought ways to protest within the confines of the law and this occupy protest and the reason democrats have had trouble embracing it has embraced at times elements violence and legal disobedience that is not appropriate in the realm of protest i must clear his name for me when i move money on the history of the united states that has changed the course of the united states didn't break the law and
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the target i'm not condoning banned vandalism or violence at all but didn't but you know whether it's civil rights whether it was women's rights whether it was abolition name name one thing that changed even absolutely not enough for you and protect our country is founded on ideals that say when the government is overstepping its boundaries that people have a responsibility we're garbus of the law to step up and change things but the fact is in this case these protesters can accomplish reading their message without putting themselves in the situation of breaking the law and really really blockading business in new york where the percent of these guys were breaking the world i mean that you know they were breaking the chancellor of the university decided they needed to go and i think we've seen these as of what i would consider a police brutality look i love the police i love the first responders we need them i respect them. but we're seeing is a pattern that we're seeing across the country i mean i think it was in oregon a young woman after being detained had a miscarriage you know your knowledge of virus you know literally have way too constricted liberties liberties are automatic constricted they constrict students
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to free speech zones that is that the size of a rubber stamp he's just a postal stamp is absurd to have somebody somebody has a very nice we have a free speech just going to states of america you're absolutely right i agree on our end let's move out of the economy nearly half of all americans are screwed according to a new study just came out from the operation the organization wider opportunities for women forty five percent of all americans experience economic insecurity meaning that they can't cover the cost of food clothing transportation medical care comfortably they can't do that and additionally retirement if the five percent of all children live anyway i studied seen those numbers by the way are also included for retirement and an emergency fund in science by that study yeah quite. so here we have you know considering that austerity was part of what the tea party was in austerity contracts governments as we've seen in europe right now why would we want to do austerity i would want to make result we should spare look it's better going to it's bad economics and we've seen this time and time again the supply side economics theory does not work it's failed it's failed over and over again so we
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won't we won't tax millionaires who was hatched millionaires but we're going to let middle and low income children live essentially you know without the basic necessities that they need that's bad for the economy it's bad for the country you know that's not how we built this it's ok how can we how can you guys justify how to get austerity how can you justify not have any of it i mean the fact is we're not going to talk about that too much but we are part of the equation is the c b o last week there was the conversation that elmendorf who's the head of the c b o actually spoke on the floor gave a senate testimony and talked about how after a ten year time period there will be a negative net effect the net g.d.p. negative net g.d.p. after this eight hundred billion dollars stimulus it's going to enter wears off yes absolutely this isn't it is why we need another one but it was the only one when i would have to listen to it i mean to act as we have we had to wrap it up but it was a free market will create well and with a little help from where. thank you very much both of you.
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