it was them. coming up in the big picture missing critical deadline seems to be all the rage on capitol hill these days but can you afford to foot the bill of congress misses the next big one coming up in december. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through get through it if you made who can you trust no one who is in view with noble mission a receipt where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.

welcome back to the big picture i'm sartin coming up in this half hour are republicans going to put aside their pledge to grover norquist to the taxes go up by a thousand bucks a family in the middle class we'll see next week in the meantime i'll ask you conservative why tax cuts for millionaires are great but tax cuts for the middle class are a waste of time and every mother worries about her baby's mental and physical development with that very worrying may be doing more irreparable harm than anything i'm on the chart which will finally incised really take while those things

giving we should all be thankful for occupy wall street. the failure of the gang of twelve super committee this week doesn't just mean one point two trillion automatic spending cuts are now coming down the by like it also means average middle class americans would see their taxes go up that's because said to expire at the end of this year is the payroll tax cut passed by congress and signed by president obama at the end of last year this tax cut reduces the amount of social security taxes that are withheld from people's paychecks and it's not extended by the end of this. numbered the typical family bringing home fifty thousand bucks a year could see their taxes go up by a thousand dollars democrats had hoped to strike a deal in the supercommittee to extend the payroll tax but that failed and now republicans appear on interested in extending the tax cut since it mostly just

helps the middle class and not the millionaires and billionaires you know the republicans normally cater to yesterday in new hampshire president obama made this urge to congress to get to work and make sure the payroll tax cut is extended. i don't the problems like to talk about you know we're the party of tax cuts not a much more no we're never going to raise taxes on anybody for as long as we live even though the party voted against this bill class tax cuts months but the question the laughter answer when they get back from thanksgiving is this they really will not break their oath to never raise taxes and raise taxes on the middle class just to play politics so will the republican party the party of tax cuts live by their mantra and extend the payroll tax cut so that middle class families are hit with a big tax increase or are they more committed to sabotaging the president's political agenda who future electability by crashing the economy here offer his take as

conservative commentator david sullivan david welcome back to program a thanks for having me it's always a pleasure david i'm thankful that you're showing up tonight and thanksgiving tomorrow i'm curious what you're thankful for well. first of all i'm thankful to have been born in american the greatest country in the world and i'm also thankful to be on your program because it gives us an opportunity to engage in some spirits of discord thank you thank you that's. the other president obama said the of the people opposing his payroll tax cut extensions are grinches so why do you want to be a grinch a christmas tree or holiday season well by my very nature i am a grinch but that now would standing i don't think we should extends these payroll tax rates i think we should permanently lower them as i've said many times on your program we are already overtaxed additionally i think we should lower the corporate

tax rate increase our military spending i think we can cover a lot of this by slashing the non essential services that are just spending us grow food stamps. well i think there are abuses and a lot of programs food stamps there may be. schools as well education really should be administered properly not this mumbo jumbo that we're peddling these days we're as the i and the. one hundred thirty years ago they were tables lower earning a living why is it that you know twenty thirty years ago when our schools were really well funded and you know freshly built by eisenhower all across the country and schools being built teachers were paid very well why is it that there are schools that are working and now now that we've cut so much i mean education that our schools aren't working anymore i think there might be some correlation there. no the answer to that is the lousy agenda that is being pushed and the

exponential increase in illegal aliens that have come in and affectively broken our public school system. ok i just that that that boggles my mind because we have schools that have nothing to do with but based on analysis by the group macroeconomic advisers are wrong for the payroll tax cut to expire will cost four hundred thousand jobs you say you want to her mentally reduce this if you're going to do that if we if we permanently reduce it you're going to permanently reduce the revenue that's going to so security trust fund by about what ten fifteen. what are you going to do i don't think we can yes i'm going to and i don't think we can adjust just ok i can answer that i don't think we should just focus on this one issue i think what we have to do is apply some generally accepted accounting principles so the government's budget and the way the government spends its money they are if you were to operate

a business any of the businesses you have operated in the past the way the government operates you would be in prison and we have to manage business by hand till accountability i am i did not run out of business well wait a minute america is going to great of and i agree with that however we're talking about financial matters here and as we are so finding out even the most myopic member of your audience can say you can't continuously prints money and give money away even though it may make you feel good then why did ronald reagan it's hard to see the bill. you know exactly what was is and has to be cranked up doubled military has been massively increased military spending cut taxes on the very wealthy cut taxes on corporations yes he actually is and what do we get he triple the national debt and it made it look like things were good for a couple of years but as you and i both know we were living on

a credit card i mean you know ronald reagan had to wear a hard and that was backwards two trillion dollars was a hell of a lot of money that's largely because of the unintended consequences of the tax revision act of one thousand nine hundred eighty six the fact of the matter is ronald reagan was a visionary but things have changed so what we have to do is cherry pick the ideas that work let's get one area of a loophole in the national debt and then claiming the but the good times that come from a chaotic hainsey i mean he was the ultimate keynesian at least at least f.d.r. when he was running up a big debt to fight world war two had plans down the road to pay it off it was it off within five years of the end of world war two ronald reagan never had any plans to pay it off it was just a let's have a party have a credit card and then tell everybody what did we have a great presidency i don't get it and now you're saying we need to do no exact same thing no not the exact same thing what i am saying we have to do is lower taxes and

increase reagan military spending has raised it being strong is never provide it of being weak is a provocative act and this is a dangerous time it's dangerous economically it's dangerous militarily so you think iran does not have a situation is it venture or ism i would like to retain our monies rather than just wasting it but at the same time we have to be smart and we have to stay strong so you're suggesting that if iran does not develop a nuclear weapon that is a provocative act and if they do develop a nuclear weapon that is not provocative because that's been strong. well i think you're twisting the message that i was making i was actually i would say this as the logical margin of every other country that has nuclear weapons from our own vantage point i am not going to insinuate myself on the military adventurism side of another country i'm just concerned with the united states or do you think that the republicans stated are going to use this payroll tax extension they've already

voted against extending the tax cut for working class americans once. yeah do you think that because they're going to they're going to use this is that we're going to see another hostage taking scenario here. i sincerely hope that the republicans and the democrats stop bloviating and stop carrying on with this sound and fury that signifies absolutely nothing that they sit down and resolve this problem another thing i think we have to stop looking at these millionaires as a convenient cash cow even if the government were to seize all of their property and money it would not address the problem and the problem is a lack of business ach human and out of control spending well here's the theory david and by the way did david sullivan shakespeare. the the the rationale for raising taxes about fifty percent after

a certain number of dollars have been earned three hundred thousand five hundred thousand a million by raising those taxes and i think it's been demonstrated you know this was the rationale that was done back in the nineteen teens this is the rational it was done in the thirty's the forty's the fifty's the sixty's eddie and robert democratic and republican administrations is that if people are heavily taxed it was when they start making fabulous amounts of money to keep their money in their businesses they'll grow their businesses maybe so and that's what happened in the massive fifty years. so let's go back to it and benny then you've got a cash cow then you've got successful businesses it's an interesting point that you make i would probably want to know a little more about it on its face i disagree but again i think right now the republican party and the democrats have to sit down and actually address the issues

you have to remember a lot of small and medium sized businesses are just hanging on by a thread there over time economy the audience. they need an economy to work and they need the government to stop meddling this government so you've got to go to work a whole lot you know if we're back to high tax rates of billionaires and how david oh we're in iraq we're out of time i'm sorry to cut you off but we're we're just flat out so that david thank you very much john because. of very very happy thanksgiving to all of your viewing audience thank you very much if. you can already see what's going to happen when it comes to extending the payroll tax cut republicans will threaten to use inflict severe damage on the economy by voting down the payroll tax cut unless democrats agree to more tax cuts for the top one percent or privatization of medicare and social security it's the return of the hostage taker government planet.

a new study conducted by scientists at the university of california has found that infants thrive physically and mentally if their mother's emotional health remains stable both during her pregnancy and after the birth whether she's depressed or healthy these researchers found that kids whose mothers whose stayed depressed from the fourth month of their pregnancy until they gave birth and then afterwards stay depressed displayed mental and physical development comparable to those children whose mothers stayed emotionally healthy during that same period of time but if a mother's emotional state changed right after she gave birth and the baby's development during that critical first year of life suffered considerably and that was true whether it was depression during pregnancy that disappeared after the mother gave birth or depression first appeared after the baby was. in my book the edison gene i wrote about what is probably the mechanism that these researchers are

noticing throughout pregnancy the fetus is constantly asking mom is the world going to be born into a safe world or a hostile world is the question mom answers that question without even realizing it by sending various levels of hormones like cortisol through the bloodstream and more stress mom experiences and more cortisol there are other neurotransmitters as well assert its own and opening that vary with mom's mood and also communicate to the fetus the answer to that question but what kind of world should he or she be getting ready to be born into in my book i've pointed that to a pretty substantial body of research that shows that when mom is exposed to lots of stress and produces lots of cortisol the baby will develop a stronger fight or flight response more rapid physical reese reflexes things necessary for survival in a hostile world on the other hand is exposed to lower levels of cholesterol lower levels of maternal stress hormones tend to develop with more focus on the four bring the thinking part of the brain are born better adapted to be a scientist and

a soldier so it made perfect sense that if a baby is born into a world his or her that his or her brain has adapted to through a pregnancy and then suddenly mom starts reacting as if it's an entirely different world where the she suddenly happier suddenly depressed the baby would have difficulty making sense of it and it's reactions would be all over the sink. now this most recent study has been quieted down too by the drug companies to say that it's important to use any depressants to keep mom on an even keel throughout pregnancy and afterwards i think the real message is that we need to work together to build a world where moms don't experience so much stress where they don't worry that the cost of the medical care for their pregnancy will bankrupt their family where they don't worry that of dad loses job will be home with you don't worry that their child will never be able to attend college or the world will be ruined by global warming or more pollution from koch industries my carry home from the study is that

we need to make a safer and more secure country for our children rather than just shovel more drugs at them it's not as profitable for the drug companies were pushing the study i think frankly makes a hell of a lot more sense. coming up things and i'd still say banks giving is the only truly american holiday and this year is the perfect opportunity to get out there and get active and not just about. what drives the world but fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions it's going to break through get through it if you may who can you trust no one who is your own view and with good local machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism that's called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.

your take my take is the segment of our show when we answer your questions comments criticisms and ins here on the big picture in last night's daily tape i told you about a new attack ad that mitt romney's campaign is running in new hampshire that makes president obama's words. not just makes them takes them pulls them out of context to make it look like the president doesn't care about fixing our economy and i came to the conclusion that the romney campaign can get away with this blatant lie because the people tasked with keeping him honest the news media don't do their job because it's not in their best interest the politicians know. they can basically get away with anything that is why you don't tweet out a little lewd photo of themselves when it comes to lying that's fair game because the corporate media isn't doing its job anymore they aren't calling liars liars in

washington they are calling crooks crooks on wall street and they are calling hacks tax when they look in the mirror and that's why the news media isn't going nuts today pointing out that a man who could be the president of the united states in this first day out comes off as a bald faced liar. it's all about access now keeping access to the newspapers and if one of the multimillionaire talking heads on t.v. calls romney a liar then guess what romney may not do an interview with that network in the future it's also all about the money strictly hypothetically let's assume there's a billionaire media mogul who owns a cable news network and he wants his taxes to go down so you think he has any interest in calling out as a liar a politician who promises to lower his taxes i don't think so and did go to the for the multimillionaire executives and boards of directors of all the for profit networks as long as the corporations running the networks like your politics and as long as they depend on access to to you to keep viewership and ad revenue coming in

then you could waltz on any time you want spew as many lies as you want and no news personal ever pointed out nancy shared her thoughts on the subject on the top of her facebook page she wrote i so badly want to think that the american people are intelligent enough to see through most of it personally in two thousand and twelve i'm voting third party or i'm writing in a name i will not vote g.o.p. or democrat probably in any level. well nancy i wish the american people could see through it an ideal world is the responsibility of every single individual to be a well informed citizen he get out there and educate themselves about the issues that have a direct impact on our lives and the well being of our families and then to put that knowledge into action and work to keep our elected leaders accountable and honest but unfortunately most of us don't live in that ideal world far from it

between between working forty fifty sixty hours a week juggling all the other responsibilities of daily life most americans don't have the time and energy to educate themselves about the issues beyond what they hear on the radios their cars they sit in traffic or on the evening news cast as they feed the kids at the table and that's why it's so important that the part of our media that calls itself new once again becomes a source of real news instead of infotainment or in the case of g.o.p. t.v. a fox news source a flight out to sin from asia course there is another factor in play here adam also posed on our facebook page as he wrote wait are there politicians who tell the truth i had about explode adam i know some people share your sentiment but there actually are some great politicians who do tell the truth people like bernie sanders jan schakowsky sherrod brown jeff merkley dennis kucinich and god willing elizabeth warren we need to do everything we can to support them that's it for your take my take it like your comments and questions here on this side one of the big

picture listen up we want to know your to send us your comments by visiting the tom hartman facebook page but twittering at tom underscore apartment or in the champ room on the message boards or the blog at heart and it also leave a message on the rant line it to achieve by three six fifty three zero six agree disagree sound off it's all welcome but remember that your comments may be used on the air. that very first thanksgiving was made possible thanks to the native americans and while it might have been out of and out of the ordinary feast and community gathering for the pilgrims was just another potlatch for native americans that's because the idea of coming together the idea of community and sharing is a staple of native american culture in fact it's

a staple of most older cultures everywhere in the world cultures where there are no rich there are no poor there are no prisons and there is no denial of healthcare and there is no waste unfortunately in the years since that very first thanksgiving bad very same native american culture that helped to keep early european settlers alive has been largely killed off by a genocidal war and diseases like influenza are just pushed further and further back into isolation and god for saken plots of land that we call indian reservation and that basis of potlatch cultures what are sometimes called hospitality cultures are older cultures or daniel quinn calls the lever's is still around albeit mostly in remote tribal areas its core concept is that you gain the most prestige by giving the most away potlatch as were in part gatherings where one

tribe or clan or family would try to outdo the others by putting on the biggest feast and giving away the most goodies you were the most well thought of person in the community when you served at the most and those who try to lock up their food or their wealth in polish cultures are considered mentally ill and either people feel sorry for them or they shun meme or they banish them from the community. most americans know nothing about native american culture except that for that one vestigial day of the year when we come together to celebrate thanksgiving the other three hundred sixty four days though it's back to business as usual trying to get rich but today on the eve of this this thing skating there's a new culture taking place in america taking hold in america and it's reminiscent of the native american culture that brought us the first thanksgiving and that is the occupy wall street movement thanksgiving is about community and there's no other movement in america today that embodies this principle more than occupy wall

street for the last two months occupations of sprung up all around the nation occupations of people who are looking after reach others who feed each other who are healing each other who are teaching each other and who never demanded anything in exchange for these are true communities which is why they so battle libertarians and republicans and as native americans learned so long ago and our young people are now really learning today these sort of potlatch are cooperator communities are a threat to established culture a reaganomics culture of hierarchy of competition of material worth and of war that's why one by one police are trying to destroy each occupation in the same way that nearly every native american community was burned to the ground over two hundred years actually over about four hundred years but as the patriots have chanted while they've been beaten pepper sprayed or murdered and cuffed to the

police buses you can't evict an idea and the idea of occupy wall street is very much with us today and it will be tomorrow when all americans come together to create community and follow the principles of the movement whether they know it or not it with the thanksgiving table and that doesn't just mean having community with your family and loved ones. occupy wall street isn't exclusive to just friends and people who know each other it's a movement that looks out for strangers for anyone who's in need somewhere near you there's a homeless shelter or a battered women's shelter or a free medical clinic someplace filled with people who don't have access to the support of a community somewhere where near you people need help stop by with a turkey or a tofurkey and a plate of stuffy and green beans stop by your local occupations see what's going on see how you can help or simply log onto an organization's website and see how

you can contribute either financially or with your time and to their efforts in your community that's what thanksgiving with its roots and potlatch culture is all about so let's give thanks for the occupy wall street movement today as it is our best hope for returning to the principles that made that very first thanksgiving possible and the best hope for making sure that future thanksgivings take place in a more perfect union and let's all give things that despite the horrors of police brutality and pepper sprays sound cannons we live in a country that has undergone fundamental change in the past thanks to movements like occupy wall street and hopefully will again in the future. that's the big picture and on this thanksgiving eve i'm thankful to you for watching our show and all the great people who work on the show putting the leaves sean sam charlie brooks i ring gavin ernest mark lundy rick baikal gene frank ricky stick stephanie cameron and rosetta for more information on the stories we covered visit

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