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to the. list or. the. our guys it's time for you said it i read it right a time to respond to my brilliance and engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you tube because you've got something to say i listen at first i want to respond with you are the wash my interview with democracy now that ryan devereaux the new york media organizations fighting back against the n.y.p.d. is a violent censorship of the press during our eye wall street joke paddy eighty one it said on you tube if they're fighting back. they should file charges not write a letter and so far there have been no reports of legal action against idle city or the n.y.p.d. for their actions over the past few months and the letters which were fired off by over thirteen media organizations requested immediate need ings with the city to discuss the incident now the city in response seems kind of moot they've said to capitol news to capital new york about the press we've worked together in the past
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to iron out misunderstandings and we'll be happy to do so again it doesn't sound to me like a response or somebody who's taken allegations of violating the first amendment very seriously but the executive director of the new york civil liberties union said that they were contemplating their next steps with regard to the city council saying quote i think it will be time for the city council to weigh in and figure out whether whether there is a legislative response now the new york times company vice president and assistant general counsel george freeman so they certainly will continue to press the issue so we're going to keep you updated on the developments in this battle between new york city and their largest media organizations next how to respond if you're that washed our tools on a war that we gave out to nuke english are saying that repealing child labor laws would be a great way to jumpstart the economy undefeated patriots zero seven commented on you two nothing wrong with a kid trying to make some cash liberals need to stop hating it good old fashioned hard work. right because the outrage with newt gingrich opposing repealing child
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labor laws is just about liberals hating good old fashioned hard work i'm sorry but we really reached the point where being against elementary school kids working as janitors of their own schools as being against hard work i mean to take a minute to tell you what being against child labor is really about is about making sure the poor children are given the same opportunities as wealthier children and that is to get an education whole other problem to be solved by the quality of education based on where you live where you from but that's for another time being against child labor is also about making sure that your children aren't taken advantage of either their family or their employers it's not about shielding it kids from hard work it's about making sure that they can work hard getting an education and trying to make a better life for themselves period next how to respond to the viewer who followed my commentary on the republican debate last night keith to eat it. love your comments during the c.n.n. debate what is your take keela of choice patro maybe. i'm really glad you're joining my commentary and to answer your question my favorite heel is. not to
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discriminate but come on guys i am russian and now for a little bonus a special thanksgiving portion of you said and i read it. for waking up this morning thankful for its all consumer favorites. that was sent over from our teaser mogul who is filming a thanksgiving at the thanksgiving food giveaway in los angeles and he happened to be a fan so thank you very much i'm the one that is so very thankful for all of you out there that watch i feel incredibly blessed to be able to come on t.v. and be able to talk about the issues that i'm passionate about and i know there are people out there who are actually listening and it's of my rantings today but i will be back with more as usual next week. all right so let's get back to last night's foreign policy debate this event again in your mind it was hosted by two conservative think tank the heritage foundation and the american enterprise institute and the audience questions either came from scholars of those two think tanks or those with bush foreign policy connections and there was little
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disagreement in the field it was mostly up to ron paul to remind the others that this stuff costs money and it appears on our constitution let's go through some clips and separate some of those foreign policy myths from the truth joining me to discuss this is jack rice former cia officer and criminal defense attorney jack thank you so much for joining us and finally got you on tell me what your overall impression was of this debate last night including the questions that only you know . and the heritage foundation basically were allowed to ask i'll tell you what i was a kind of shocked by this i found a lot of these to be incredibly narrow in terms of the answers i thought there was shockingly naive in terms of the answers but let's look at the questions for a second what's really shocking to me is maybe on the verge of being the most powerful country on the face of the planet and we're talking about the chinese not one question and i think a bigger question our number one trading partner in the world used to european block there will be blown to pieces i'm not just talking about the greeks i'm
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talking about italians or talk about the spanish there's even rumblings about the french and even today the germans couldn't get the body to think they were going to get you know one question about that that itself to me was absolutely shocking little loads of it frankly ridiculous pictures that we've heard but let's move right along to some of those ridiculous answers that we heard and actually hear were juxtaposing something we have a mitt romney and we have ron paul and that you know these are two separate discussions essentially one was about the way that we treat terrorist suspects here in the u.s. and the other is just the concept of fighting a war on terror but i want to listen to what these communities say. congressman paul talked about about crime newt gingrich was right there different categories here there is crime and there are rights that are afforded to american citizens under our constitution and those that are accused of crime then there is war and the tool of war being used today in america and around the world is terror there's a different body of law that relates to war on terrorism is a tactic it isn't
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a person it isn't the people so this is a very careless use of words what about this sacrifice liberties because there are terrorists here to judge and jury no other suspect. so here we are on the coming down to the semantic than is terrorism an act of war or is it a crime what do you think. i think ron paul was actually very very smart when it comes to decision look i realize that we're saying from a lot of the candidates right now it's all a sort of bumper sticker politics but we have to be really accurate about when we address something like this i mean terrorism is a tactic if you treat it like going to war on that first of all where do you find it you find it everywhere and yet at the same time you take a look at who's been successful at this frankly the europeans have been far more successful in terms of their approach to this and they have actually treated this much more from a law enforcement perspective it's far more accurate and i think the biggest point
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that we have to make about this on the worldwide basis if we're going to be this beacon of light that i keep hearing from the republicans then what we have to do is establish with that beacon stands for and that beacon is a rule of law it also is the idea of having a process any procedural expectation as to what should and should not be done rather than haphazardly doing whatever we want look i'm a former prosecutor i am a former cia case officer and i'm also a criminal defense attorney i walk into jail cells every day and i talk to quite some of whom are americans some of whom are not and i talk about the system of justice be it federal or state law and i talk about what it means and why this system is actually the most effective and i think if we could do that on an international basis it would make us far more powerful and frankly far more persuasive to the rest of the world that we're actually on the right side of these issues and let's really quickly move on to another subject here michele bachmann
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had a few choice words for president obama and his iran policy. president obama has he has failed the american people because for two and a half years he never ran the luxury of time he met with them with no preconditions it's a doctrine of appeasement he has changed the course of history because at the time when we needed a leader most we didn't have one. you have any idea how it's changed the course of history in regards to iran i mean i could name a few other examples but iran specifically boy there are so many place to start with where it comes to michele bachmann and when it comes to iran bottom line here is the iranian people are driving west you want to find a way to isolate them and push them into the hands of our you get a shot into the ruling council what you do is you stand behind the israelis and blindly go in and bomb them i mean this is the foolish concept of some of the others except to say thank the fact that president obama is actually stood up and
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said wait a second we need to have this conversation and convince the people of iran to do the things that they need to do i mean this is a perfect example of frankly leadership i realize it doesn't fit it has a bumper sticker we've been talking about but honestly this is exactly how we should be approaching this rather than simply jumping out of the airplane and saying just how many targets we could hit not to mention of course michele bachmann said that iran said it once the way the u.s. is. wipe us off the earth with their nuclear weapons that they deny they even have a nuclear weapon so a lot of stuff that doesn't necessarily make sense and they're really quick though let's take a look at pakistan where she made a little more sense than rick perry. at this point i would continue that aid but i do think that the obama policy of keeping your fingers crossed is not working in pakistan and i also also think that pakistan is a nation that it's kind of like too nuclear to fail and so we've got to make sure that we take that threat very seriously i understand where she's coming from but
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the bottom line is they've showed us time after time that they can't be trusted and until pakistan clearly shows that they have america's best interests in mind i would not send them one penny period. so a little bit of division in the republican field over this but do you think that that's a good thing because they're finally starting to realize how complicated a new once this relationship is of pakistan oh without question to be honest i'm a little bit concerned that and i sound a little bit like i'm on the same side with michele bachmann on almost any issue but she's actually right we have to contemplate where the pakistanis are here i mean let's think about this in excess of eighty nuclear weapons the ability to literally blow afghanistan to pieces if they so choose amongst other things and there are the lynchpin in many ways and you could make big so incredibly complicated deceit and sort of is simply a black or white when in fact there is a whole ton of gray here is something we absolutely have to acknowledge if we don't
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get it out that would be completely ridiculous so in fact i could be careful here she is kind of right on this issue of well i'm a little concerned i have to admit that you know working on the intel community i guess every now and then might i might help him get one right let me just really broken clock is right twice and of twice a day let me end this with something that rick santorum was very concerned about at the end of a debate wolf blitzer when asked the candidates whether there was an issue they felt wasn't brought up in a way that they really wanted to talk about they were concerned with and just listen to the answer. ah doesn't a lot of time and concern and rick mentioned this earlier about what's going on and in central and south america i'm very concerned about these militant socialists and there and the run up to some is joining together bonding together. the illness of the socialists joining and bonding together is this i mean where does this myth come from. you know there's
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a whole list of things that we need to be concerned about on the world wide basis as we've talked about but he didn't mention china once they didn't mention that your p. had financial collapse once and yet we're talking about a combination of the socialist in me is not it's really i haven't seen the top of the list i anybody you have any credibility in the entire world but well i guess rick has reviewed it is uniquely rick's and you know we've actually i think i heard michele bachmann in the past to say that you think that hezbollah is going to go through mexican border this is this is this new g.o.p. met that you know we didn't hear anything about yemen we didn't hear there was a question about somalia al-shabaab but all the candidates just skirted it and moved on to the next issue a lot that was still uncovered jack thank you so much for joining us tonight thank you very much. i saw to come tonight the pentagon isn't working so hard to scare the public about reducing the military that play forgot to create a contingency plan for themselves details of my school time and
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a happy hour comment from the g.o.p. to vegas ron paul on huff and a few more mash for that story when we come back. on . to the police to repine. but one of the protesters nobody seems to know. but never a pepper spray to face but already argument that they're being overly dramatic. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you know some other part of it and realize that everything is all. part of the big picture.
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i'm laura in this for. our guys it's time for tides told time award tonight it goes to the government department with the biggest chunk of the discretionary budget the pentagon ever since a debt reduction deal was signed a few months ago war hawks have been fighting to secure outrigger cuts the would fall on the military if the supercommittee couldn't find ways to turn the budget on their own so called every fear mongering lying that they could think up. if it did happen it would result in a further round of very dangerous cuts across the board defense cuts that i believe
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would do real damage to our security our troops and their families and our military's ability to protect the nation. but that is even labeled the sequestering as an apocalyptic event saying that this mechanism this kind of doomsday mechanism that was built into the agreement is designed so that it would only take effect if congress fails to enact further measures to reduce the deficit now despite all those epic warnings the super committee to fail and that doomsday magnetism is set to kick it although personally i kind of doubt congress is going to lead but get this the betting i was guiding this move so much that they didn't even prepare for the spending reductions that will set in on january twenty third that's right apparently they're taking the stubborn approach here and the pentagon spokesperson says we are not planning for the sequester to focus on trying to get congress to do what it said it would do. how long that he'll be milling about the second level budget cuts that just may have been coming their way it's not like they didn't have time to repair it sounds like they've chosen a rather immature approach just living in denial besides i've got the pentagon had
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a contingency plan for just about everything from iran to climate change even a plan in case earth is greeted with extra terrestrials but the sequester cuts. now panetta has had enough time to crunch the numbers just enough to know that the new cuts would reduce the defense budget by eleven percent or nyet back to the budget that we saw in two thousand and seven and despite calls from the d.o.t. to cover some of their major weapon systems unfortunately it looks like veterans will likely get hit the hardest by his equestrian not only with our current retirement system changed to a four a one k. style system but this new system would require the vets to wait until the standard us retirement age to access those funds that's something they're going to talk more about on friday with added weinstein but in the meantime we're giving the d.o.d. and the pentagon tonight's tool time award for spending too much time fear mongering not enough time actually planning ahead that's what i call an epic fail.
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i guide in time for happy hour and joining me this evening our team producer jenny churchill and alex sites while as an editor at think progress dot org. just realizing i said the pentagon and the defense department were never the same thing . let's talk about making kelly we talked about this yesterday because well clearly she's a really cold hearted person and let me just remind you of what she said about pepper spray. dries right i mean it's like a derivative of actual pepper it's a food product essentially. i never knew it was a food product but now. there is a petition out there to get her to back up her claim that pepper sprays a food product by consuming as much if it has been sprayed on each protesters in one sitting on camera on fox news. if you think i mean obviously should never do it
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but i think. that would be amazing but that's clearly not going to happen it wouldn't be as amazing as if someone might sneak attack her while she was on air and just like sprayed pepper spray on her face and i think i'm a simple yes exactly yes it is totally ridiculous to call it a food product it's more of a seasoning than an actual products so i would be satisfied if she you know pepper spray her turkey for thanksgiving and some of that kind of middle ground yeah i don't actually want to run up her. face that's this horrible i don't wish that upon anybody but she should do something or at least you know take it back but so regarding this there now is this need that's out there on the web that's because it's essentially basically the way that you compares these and so one of them is shooting for nuclear explosion it's like a tickle fight with a microwave essentially i don't think either one is. it's got
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a ball with bullets essentially yeah like that you can anymore oh yeah i actually came up with one for mag well she spells her name. and it's a stripper name essentially. out. of being is basically making stuff up essentially what i'm doing now. i don't have a way to get a. job let's go back to the debate because that's the best joke of all is watching these candidates talk about foreign policy and it's and you know it's depressing and scary at some point and here is rick santorum talking about whether profiling is ok there are times when the t.s.a. and while you listen to sometimes answer make sure to really pay attention to ron paul and what he's doing on the side. so just to be precise is it something religious profiling who would be pro some. of the folks who are most likely to be committing these crimes if you look at i mean obviously it was people obviously
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muslims would be would be someone you'd look at absolutely those are the folks who are the radical muslims or the people that are committing these crimes as we've by and large as well was younger males i mean these are things that not exclusively but these are things that you profile to to find your best the most likely candidate. like a kid i came here because i got to go crazy over what you're saying right now is my favorite is his profile muslim i think that was ron paul's real shining moment and that could be it actually it was just his silent reaction and just the right you know he will go on the other ones actually just stand there and look very stoic and he was getting to the point where he was just like i can't handle it anymore you people are so bigoted and crazy such alluded takes it. and it's like if you're going to profile someone he kept going on and on like saying we're in a program to look at all they're going to know what you're looking for and then they're going to go around. i mean obviously i'm all for this because it means i
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will read some right through security but i mean i think that there's experience if you're going through that theory because of course there are theories to that area that we've run harder play oh it's like oh yeah timothy mcveigh totally anyway and maybe out there is a week they had such a large you know like appearance in the foreign policy debate kind of interesting i say all right let's move on to something that newt gingrich told us there is a question about the patriot act. the question of the patriot act and all the candidates when and how it's so great and newt gingrich especially told us why we needed all of us will be in being sure. for the rest of our watch this is not going to end in the short run and we need to be prepared to protect ourselves from those who if they could would not just troublesome to virtually would take out into our cities and they want to come in and they're not like the
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party all of us will be in danger for the rest of our lives of course are in danger because we're all going to die it's a point right any time you cross the street or you get in the car you're in danger is really ludicrous yeah it's like a breaking news announcement is going to tell you like they're going to kill you and if you truly they're going to kill you in the cities they're just they're going to kill you. and you will your life is in the shower when you like to that he's like i'm all for people having rights except when they're trying to kill other people well you know that's you think they're trying to kill other people you don't really know and then we lock people up for years and years and years without a new trial justice system grooved people guilty that actually are guilty but really really dangerous the rest of our lives ever ever what's the point when the boy i agree with the point. anyway. c.-span actually every now and then has a few entertaining moments when you catch something going on a hearing that was unexpected and so this comes from the house natural resources
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committee and that's just fine take a look i call it garbage dr rice it comes from dr brinkley rice is the university well ok i know you want to write a book on anything i want to write you a chair you are going to be a lawyer well you are a quiet you don't know me. thank you. better just be like you see jerry you be quiet you don't know me it's just good it's always i was like this amazing a pole like father son. like don young like you you will do what i tell you to do and he's like you don't own me i'm a big boy i can do it i was a real college another graduated i mean those are some really low blows they're like just calling someone's entire research based garbage and then being like oh by the way you want to community college just so you know i mean there's some stats on cspan is what i really learned you know to be ass on the hill you need to be way more like this all the time and a lot more people would watch because that was amazing you want to look great i
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love rick perry's thing but it was like i'm not trying i'm not any president to make friends which is a classic reality t.v. thing that everyone says like i'm not you know here i'm a friend so congress should just be like reality t.v. like i'm not here to make friends we're going to call each other out on c.-span. and mostly they just call each other every now and then like sunday talk shows where it's really. needed all their restaurants stores and have fun together. they're all friends but i meant to say. how do you know how fun they are i don't think they're actually i but i just thank you anyway and thanks for joining you guys so we will not have a show for you tomorrow because it's thanksgiving here in the u.s. but make sure they come back on friday out of weinstein for mother jones to be on to talk about how the pro-business lobby in the pentagon might be costing veterans their benefits any time don't forget to become a fan of your show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's or any other night. you tube dot com flash we want to show where we post
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the interview it's also a show in its entirety coming up next. on . a very warm welcome to you this is your news today i had a protest on the whole city streets they have to. leave decent chance of a good chance to choose to get good grades that the status of the human experiments gives its people with the weakest your problems is a disreputable was it just goes to the movies lately trying to make sense of global economy and its arcane things as financial templates each of the researchers clamoring to maintain a competent and long kids and make your points to be seen trade imbalances
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recession look b.p. nations close to collapsing of supply moon foreclosed homes. to bail switchblade banks again feel a little like think is the us crazy and eminent must be seeing flames just like was hit in the clubs in athens three d. strikes me i'm just programmed to increase the total economy. that has become common and global is to me the creation of the biggest food system the global food system is not created to feed the people of the world is created to maximize the profits. which are not trading the actual cash physical grain or trading promises for grain to be delivered a monster six months or twelve months or eighteen months in the future. for reasons moderate played some.
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