goldberg can be negotiated and ordered some degree in. place. yet or. possibly it's not traded now but it could be in the future. well i'm sorry in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture why friday is less than forty eight hours away morris thanksgiving but could there be an upside to the shopping frenzy that seems to have overshadowed our only truly american holiday. cards fourteen down and thirteen more to go scheduled primary debates that is and although there were no major gaffes in the last night's national security debate on c.n.n. there always is no shortage of scary moments and welcome to an america or more than

half of all our children live in economic security unfortunately i am not speaking in hypotheticals. you need to know this tomorrow is the thanksgiving holiday that's increasingly being recognized in america as lack friday a day in which families all across the country gather stuff themselves full of food and spend the rest of the day plotting which trans national retail giant bill bonde rush at the crack of dawn to fill or shopping carts full of markdown plasma t.v.'s hottest new kids for the kids toys and super cheap toaster ovens. it's really is an american tradition but this year one corporation oddly enough well it's a marketing thing trying to change that american express they're calling for

a black friday shopping frenzy to be extended into saturday but with a catch and that is on saturday you should only buy stuff from local businesses not the big chains know wal-mart not best buys not target but from the independent mon pop shops that are in today's economy frankly an endangered species in fact american express is offering up to twenty five dollars in credit to their customers as long as they promise to buy something at a local business they're calling their campaign small business saturday they call it. small businesses are the lifeblood of the market unities on november twenty sixth made a huge impact by stopping small and small business when the purchase or so became the business in cali i played shop at the top team to see how will you be doing make a pledge to shop small. shops well this is

a. notice all those small businesses that are highlighted that video if current trends continue pretty soon they'll be gone and instead they'll be replaced by transnational giants like these guys so this is a good move i mean it's a lifeline to american struggling small businesses sure american express maker like . author of the campaign but arguably it's for the greater good because whether people realize it or not giant transnational corporations are eating their towns. for example when a new wal-mart opens up for every job it's created one and a half jobs are lost because more than eighty five percent of all the stuff sold with mars manufactured with cheap labor overseas so walmart can undercut and put out of business all of the small local retailers around town laying off hundreds of people who used to make good money and then rehiring them to wear

a wal-mart vest and collect a near minimum wage paycheck and don't expect walmart or best buy's or any other retail giant to do their banking at the local banks they go to the giants on wall street so all the profits that are made don't get recycled back into the community as they do when small local businesses thrive st instead every night when the big chain store closes like a button gets pushed in the money gets sucked like a giant vacuum right out of town right to wall street or wherever that transnational giants headquarters are which more and more often is a tax haven like the cayman islands and these transnational mega corporations they really really don't give a damn at all about the local communities are devastated those communities are just places to suck out more and more money by destroying more and more small family local businesses that's why it's necessary to join in on small business saturday or

some variation on it with or without their express for one day to disregard the great sales and instead we invest back in your community that frankly i think that's what we should all do and all the time but that's not all we need we need to also get our legislators involved in fixing the underlying problem of why corporations have gotten so big and that means calling your local lawmaker and telling them to start enforcing something called the sherman antitrust act again. the sherman antitrust act has been around for a long time i wrote about this my book an equal protection act was passed back in eighteen ninety it the penalty for violating the sherman antitrust or first what the sherman antitrust act is all about basically what it says is that if companies behave in a way that is anti-competitive if they if they organize in such a way that the smaller companies can't start or can't compete with them if they

become so big that they can squash a small company like a bug then they can get dissolve it get broken up into smaller pieces and if they refuse to do that it's up to ten million dollars fine nowadays it's one hundred million dollars fine up to three years in prison for their executives and you know sums and triple damages if you sue them and. not criminal court and so this is the sherman antitrust act and its variations there could be a claim and others that followed it have worked pretty well for about one hundred years from the eight hundred ninety s. until the one nine hundred eighty s. they laid the groundwork for entrepreneurial boom in the middle of the twentieth century the forty's and fifty's the sixty's the seventy's the eighty's the creative bustling and unique main streets all across america but now it's like every main street is the same we've been here before by nineteen zero for only three

hundred companies controlled more than eighty percent of american industry we had you know it was there was that too big to fail to get it got huge president teddy roosevelt came into office a lot and by nineteen he was calling himself the traps we trust buster presidents have to follow them followed suit in one thousand eleven they broke up a standard oil company thirty three companies the last of the american tobacco company f.d.r. in just one year nine hundred forty had more than eighty anti-trust lawsuits against major american corporations breaking them down in order to allow main streets to flourish. back in the forty's the fifty's the sixty's the seventy's america's main streets were unique jack kerouac wrote this book on the road one thousand nine hundred fifty one about a road trip from new york city to the rise coast of mexico every city had its own character because it had its own businesses but then ronald reagan came along in the one nine hundred eighty s. and he basically in eighty three eighty four defunded the federal trade commission

that would prosecutes the chairman antitrust act and the department justice has offices that look into antitrust and so ninety four ninety five or the peak years in the history of the united states for mergers and acquisitions the m. and a frenzy it was referred to at the time the supreme court got into the act in a case called mets a sheet electrical industrial company versus zenith radio making it harder to prosecute under the sherman act so now every major industry in america is dominated by six or fewer giant corporations for example is a lot of banking six banks control assets equal sixty five percent of the entire nation's g.d.p. seven trillion dollars you could now jump out of an airplane at four hundred forty thousand feet and land anywhere in the country and not have any idea where you are because every mall looks the same every downtown looks the same because of these giant corporations that have taken control of retail foods you know in name this is not competition it's no sort of free market particularly since these corporations

have gotten so big that they can buy if your own clubs the business roundtable the hundred largest c.e.o.'s u.s. chamber of commerce. they they make huge political donations so buying local is a good start but it's not enough we need to break up the big not. just. yet but for the good the bad of the very very end a dip sickly ugly the good organ governor john kitzhaber governor gets over joining the growing list of other governors around the nation who've suspended their use of the death penalty in their state this decision came ahead of the december sixth scheduled execution of gary dargan who recently waived his rights to appeal to protest an unjust or mental justice system defending his decision to no longer allow executions in oregon governor kitzhaber said i simply cannot participate once

again in something that i believe to be morally well. even though some in the state of call the governor howard for his decision is making the right call and other governors especially that guy in texas should be list. the bad operation burn notice this anonymous group mostly on facebook is apparently carrying out a coordinated effort to sabotage it was constant efforts to recall governor scott walker over the weekend the group posted a message bragging about how they have destroyed over one hundred thousand signatures petitions already during this recall that caught the attention of the organization one wisconsin now up a progressive group leading the recall walker campaign that is now offered up a reward for operation burn notice i should for information. worth mentioning that destroying petitions as operation burn notice claims it's done is a felony that can lead to three years in prison so let's find these bombs and lock

them up. and the very very ugly liberty university last week the school's board of trustees reversed that long. standing ban on guns allowing students to now carry concealed firearms on campus this is the same school doesn't let students watch r. rated movies attend dances or perks but now they can walk around with a glock in their pants to make matters worse liberty university is chancellor jerry falwell jr he fended the decision by evoking what happened at virginia tech where thirty three people were massacred and a student brought guns onto the campus foul rolls for a while said if something god forbid ever happened like what happened at virginia tech there would be more than just our police officers who would be able to deal with. i somehow doubt this would have been the solution that jesus would have advocated confronting violence by arming our young people the teeth that's a very very.

crazy alert don't drink the water the mayor of the peruvian city of horror me thinks he knows what causes some of sexuality and that is drinking tap water standing outside of the water treatment plant narrows a the need as a reference to the high levels of strontium in the local water supply and unfortunately strontium reduces male hormones and suddenly will be as well so this as other chums where the percentages are increasing of homosexuality or into a limit news station the town of taboo los is opposed to gay population of fourteen thousand men doctors and college women were quick to prove mayor benita as wrong however noting a strawman in the water increases the risk of cancer it has nothing to do with homosexuality i guess the real question though is when was rick santorum in peru and what did he tell mary anita is. coming up the g.o.p.

presidential contenders were out in full force again last night for what was supposed to be a debate on foreign policy was my panel why the war drums drowned out any real serious talk of foreign problems. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through through it if you hadn't made who can you trust no one who is your view with the global machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.

as the republicans gathered in washington d.c. for their eleventh debate so far this one hosted by c.n.n. and a bunch of koch brothers funded conservative think tanks like the heritage foundation the american enterprise institute and a focus on foreign policy most of the candidates on stage aside from ron paul and jon huntsman tried to one up each other on who would support israel more and who take a tougher stance against iran and syria and then strangely the candidates each to hype the threat of as well of teaming up with socialists in latin america. we know that hamas and hezbollah are working and mexico as well as iran i'm very concerned about these notes and socialists in there and the radical islamists joining

together bonding together i'm concerned about the spread of socialism we have right now hizbollah which is working throughout latin america in venezuela in mexico throughout latin america which poses a very significant and imminent threat to united states i forgot all those all those catholics in south america they're really good and indeed in reality the biggest economic threat to america unrestrained global free trade for multinational corporations wasn't even mentioned indeed it was the ongoing financial crisis in europe so it wasn't so much a foreign policy debate in reality it was awarded for a round up of analysis of what happened last night while some of the other big issues of the week it like to bring in my panel joining me now is vince collin a senior online editor of the daily caller and eric burns former president he of natters current strategic communications consultant her partner or fight strategies guys thanks for joining us thank you first of all to us thanksgiving what do you what do you what do you think performance well i have every reason to be thankful

my brother is fresh back from doing route clearance in afghanistan so he had the luxury of finding i d's sometimes the hard way a couple times and i'm just grateful that i'm back he's in good shape and it's a great time for him to be back to say i've actually heard. my dad passed away last year so it was a tough year i'm faithful to have my family you know to get there with me this thanksgiving and look forward to kind of a new beginning and. let's let us let us hope it's a good year or a good year this is it's going to be so to be a while this was put to the debate last night this was my favorite part of the debate newt gingrich and ron paul you know taking it out over the patriot act this was just incredible to take a look at this little bit of political humor he may very killed a lot of americans i don't want to know that says after we lose you made. the american city we're sure going to come and find you i want a law that says if you try to take out an american city we're going to say this is

nice seeing then we need a policeman in every house a camera in every house because we want to prevent child beating him and wife beating you can prevent crimes by becoming a police state so if you have a hate the police state yes you can have safety and security and you might prevent a crime but the crime then will be against the american people and yes our freedoms and we will throw out so much of what our revolution was fought for so don't do it so carelessly so vince a i think that if barry goldwater were alive he'd be right there with ron paul and all of the other republicans would be considered outliers for the historic republican party that's why i think you know what you have is historically i mean if you want to pull back is this debate has been happening since the days of the barbary pirates where we balance whether or not we have liberty or security and it's not and there's i don't think there's a binary formula there i think there's a balance obviously ron paul is far in the direction of liberty he's very for and

we need ron paul's and the republican party to be able to bring that guides back and make that conversation a part of it but at the same time just accepting i think new gamers part of a great point the fact is you have to be vigilant from a security standpoint to protect against folks like timothy mcveigh it's better to have prevention than it is to have chased out of here but if patriot act or the f.b.i. can just write write a letter and then have to worry about judges they don't know the words and i think it's a serious problem i think it's un-american i think it goes against the very ideals of what we want this country to be and i agree with that so yes prevention is the key but i actually have to say i came much closer where ron paul was you know that i think is a false choice this notion that you have to have you know liberty or security i think that we can have both and i think if we want to be the america especially to the. rest of the world we have to find a way to do that it's just that there's actually something ok with having a little insecurity and having more liberty. you know i guess i'm with ron paul on

well i hate i hate to even been friends with doesn't this is not a this show is not about that but i do agree with you i think a little risk is worthwhile especially when you have you know i think conservatives and republicans and more importantly not just talking about the these guys are they're debating i think they have to figure out a way to be consistent in their arguments when they talk about the patriot act and the idea that they want to keep the patriot act intact and then they turn and they say that we can't have children scream the airports because somehow that requires that there be an exception i think that there ideologically not consistent they need to find a consistency if you think that if a defining consistency that. the republicans were gung ho for i don't know you know bill clinton was involved in a lot of the republican party is supportive of my guess is politics is politics people like to be against the show just because of the party they're associated with but ultimately at the end of the day when it comes down to a question of security the patriot act has many elements that have enhanced our security dramatically in the hands leading to actually stopping many terrorist

attacks in the years following nine eleven and that was. what we know and we know that in the vicinity of what would what we've been told the writer is absolutely right what we've been told me but we were told a lot of things by the bush administration as well as be true i mean not so you know really argumentative but that's just the case and i think you're right i would have you do you want to i mean i really really question you know what we don't know how for the patriot act really goes to really go that he was really really understand this is of what. this is doing and i think the when we start talking about degrading our fundamental rights as americans that's a serious serious problem because that cuts to the core of who we are as a people as a nation and you say it best when you talk to you know when you do that with a little bit of risk well the alternative and we have a reasonable house but the issue is when you talk i mean there are so that because the fact is ultimately it's been around for quite a while now if there. issues with the patriot act litigation is where that those problems should've been taken care of well have to go to the world legislation i believe it is but going back to this issue of who we are as as people newt kind of

stepped in and here's what you had to say last night i thought this was. i do not believe that the people united states are going to take people who've been here a quarter century who have children and grandchildren who are members of the community who may have done something twenty five years ago separate them from their families and expel them i don't see how the part of the party that says it's the party of the family is going to dance an immigration policy which destroys families that have been here a quarter century and i'm prepared to take the heat for saying let's be humane in enforcing the law while. you have to take heat to be humane to be republican. yes as a former republican yes you do. look at what rick what happened rick perry where he came out and said we need to have a heart and was essentially advocating for the same thing the new congress was talking about it was the hasten the demise of his presidential bid but what really

hear us looking different new dress up in different language that's absolutely true but it's the same thing but what repair he did that was offensive to voters and why he declined in the polls is that he came out of the gate saying they were heartless he cues them right out the gate of not being on his side which is not a way to go to court voters and meanwhile new said fine i'm going to take the arrows for this and i think you know people the crackers and we got i was live tweeting last night for daily caller dot com i really have this i just want to mention it but i was actually last night and then i asked conservative tweets tell me preach being people tweet tell me do you think that this is an offensive stance that newt gingrich is taking this is does that offend your sensibilities but overwhelmingly conservatives were actually kind of please they were like well somebody had to say of the fact is there are realities in the situation of yelling with his reagan who don't even ration we emigrated eighty that's absolutely right because it takes nuance that typical of this republican party is completely forgotten whatever legacy there was more reagan i mean i think that reagan would be wrong there were his grave if he saw what this party was with this republican party

was doing in the name of the reagan and you know this is this is an issue that the republicans or conservatives have been absolutely movable on you know with the exception of george w. bush and those are hillary for electrify the bases i want to go that's one of those personal let's propelled i do want to tell you i'm from texas that's not going to work i do want to know what you're saying and it's that newt gingrich today became the media's the mainstream media's biggest friend because all of a sudden they said well this guy sounds sensible and you know i do want to. cite the fact that the media can sort of has its predispositions and it can't always be trusted to call their own out on and was that it was coming to the hill and he'd like to move us along by wall street there was there was hardly any mention of that last night of course was a foreign policy debate but on the other hand och. by wall street has gone international and arguably what we're seeing is something that started in true or square game here if you can make that argument or not in any case we're seeing more videos of police brutality u.c. davis oakland seattle president obama was my check by these people yesterday you

know they interrupt the speech that he was giving it was brought to his attention the four thousand of these patriots have been arrested and none of the banks are in jail unlike by the way during the reagan administration where he threw a thousand gangsters in jail with so so the question. in the case of police brutality here we've got this well this is the video of it lieutenant pike john pike the guy who sprayed the pepper spray and these people in these kids' faces shouldn't this guy be charged with a so yes without a battery without question i mean look at these were students there were i think exercising their constitutional right to civil disobedience peace peaceful demonstration they were sitting indian style on their college campus on public around. and i think there's it's just inexcusable the way that they were treated in the way that we actually treat in this country today more broadly you know public protests i mean it's i think completely different of our businesses are the bad

guys you know the military in egypt so we're just you know we're just calling ourselves to the standards as we see on t.v. of the way that they're teaching us to clearly police forces should exist in order to represent the security of the people first and foremost and not to not offend anyone here and now but no but what i'm saying is that if prosecutions the question if you think i think that actually could be kind of interesting to see them prosecuted or the like to see how the courts would take that on i think the question of the resistance involved the amount of legal disobedience that were there was involved with the protests all this is quite like there's a legal doctrine here police officers in any police officer can tell you this i went through the georgia police i'm a graduate of the georgia police academy ok i don't know if it's a police officer is allowed to use force up to and. just beyond the force necessary to subdue a subject so whatever subject is being pushed at you by the subject you can push back up to that level and whatever is necessary to stop the process so these non-lethal forms of violence of what we see with this guy with the pepper spray

we're supposed to replace bullets you know to stop people in their tracks they're not supposed to raise your place dragging somebody off a sidewalk clears a guy is way over the clearly way over it will be remembered i want to make sure this is said and i've said this before on your program the fact is at the end of the day i mean i think you're right i think that police have gone too far and as i mean one of our own reporters was but tom whipped by a new york police officer while covering these things while in a new york city clearly police have overstepped their boundaries in many instances along through this occupy wall street saga but what i will say is this you didn't see the tea partiers experience that's and the reason is because they sought out legal permits they sought ways to protest within the confines of the law and this occupy protest and the reason democrats have had trouble embracing it has embraced at times elements violence and legal disobedience that is not appropriate in the realm of protest i must put his name for me here on movement on the history of the united states that has changed the course of the united states didn't break the law

i'm not talking i'm not condoning bant bandolier of violence at all but didn't but you know whether it's civil rights whether it was women's rights whether it was abolition name name one thing the change even absolute amount of free of our country approached our country is founded on ideals that say when the government is overstepping its boundaries that people have a responsibility we're garbus of the law to step up and change things but the fact is in this case these protesters can accomplish reading their message without putting themselves in the situation of breaking the law and really really blockading business in the role that at the same time these guys were breaking the law i mean they were breaking the deal with the chancellor of the university decided they needed to go and i think we've seen these instances of what i would consider police brutality look i love the police i love the first responders we need them i respect them. but we're seeing is a pattern that we're seeing across the country i mean i think it was in oregon you know woman after being detained had a miscarriage you know your knowledge environment we really have way too constricted liberties liberties are alternately constructed to constrict students

to free speech zones that is that the size of a rubber stamp i mean of a just the postal stamp is a service that is not useful julie has a very nice we have a free speech called the under states of america you're absolutely right i agree on our i mean let's move out of the economy nearly half of all americans are screwed according to a new study just came out from the operator the organization wider opportunities for women forty five percent of all americans experience economic insecurity meaning that they can't cover the costs of food clothing transportation medical care comparable you can't do that and additionally retirement at fifty five percent of all children living right i mean so these you know numbers by the way are also included retirement and emergency fund inside inside of that study yeah fine. so here we have you know considering that austerity was part of what the tea party was an austerity contracts governments as were seen in europe right now why would we want to do austerity why would want to make result we should spare look it's better going to left it's bad economics and we've seen this time and time again the supply side economics theory does not work it's failed it spilled over and over again so

we won't we won't tax millionaires we will tax millionaires but we're going to let middle and low income children live essentially you know without the basic necessities that they need that's bad for the economy it's bad for the country you know that's not how we built this joke how can you how can you guys justify i don't get it austerity how can you justify not have any of it i mean the fact is we're not going to talk about it too much but we are part of the equation is the cvo last week there was the conversation that elmendorf who is the head of the cvo actually spoke on the floor gave a senate testimony and talked about how after a ten year time period there will be a negative net effect the net negative net g.d.p. after this eight hundred billion dollars stimulus it's going to end when it is off yeah that's how little it is isn't it is why we need another one but if they do exactly what i would have to refer to it i mean ok we have to we have to wrap it up but after that we are a free market will create wealth well and. with a little help from where. if you very much both you.